1: No Hollywood movies have been released that are 60FPS (Avatar 2 and the new Animal Farm are being filmed in 60FPS) 2: The 48FPS Hobbit movie was only shows in 48FPS only in theaters that had the equipment; bluray versions are not 48FPS. 3: Avatar 60FPS is not actually 60FPS. It is 24FPS that has been interpolated to 60FPS (means the frames in between were calculated by a program and filled in.) 4: Any version of any Hollywood movie that is said to be 60FPS is actually interpolated 60FPS.
Here are 12, 3-second webm clips of Avatar 1080p 60FPS Interpolated.
You will see how good/bad this looks. Keep in mind that the interpolation for action scenes with quick movement will look like utter shit in a blender. I have tried to make these webms look as good as possible as Sup Forums will allow to be uploaded (3MB filesize limit and only VP8 since VP9 isn't allowed on Sup Forums yet.)
Source for the webms is, "Avatar.Extended.Collectors.Edition.1080p.60FPS.(gixerk9)".
Literally looks like a videogame. I thought it was a game trailer at first.
Ryan Anderson
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Mason Cruz
Game trailers are not 60FPS, making your observation pointless.
Most 60FPS porn is actually interpolated or variable framerate. There's very few that are actually 60FPS and they are hard to find.
Sebastian Bennett
fucking low test nu male beta cuck manlet literally betrays his race but is suppose to be the 'good guy'
Charles Carter
High frame rates are horrible for live action video, tv and movies. We've conditioned ourself to view 24-30fps as "fiction" and if you double that it just starts to look fake or "too real" as some say
They're alright for games though
Grayson Anderson
He doesn't betray his race. He betrays his species. Huge difference.
Asher Lee
God that looks uncanny valley/bad/annoying af.
Dominic Kelly
fuck, that cgi is realer than real life
Parker Martinez
Last one.
This is the worst scene I turned into webm. These terrible artifacts are from the interpolation, not because of being encoded into webm. Pause it and look at it frame by frame to really see the horror of interpolation from 24FPS to 60FPS.
Watching this movie during the jungle scenes pretty much makes it unwatchable due to the Interpolation.
It doesn't look like a video game. It looks like a pile of smeary goo and watery colors.
There's really not much real 60FPS movies available. There's actually a chance you've never seen it.
Luis Lewis
Thats because Cameron only used a CG model of him he hasn't released information on it he wants to wait 20 years ebfore coming out and saying it. The red herrings are the Na'vi, while everyone bitches about them he's already broken the mould of making humans look realistic as fuck in CG, Quaritch was that endeavor.
No please dont stop can you do the one in the rain where he's training? i cant find any clips of it on youtube, the music is so magical in that bit
Justin Cox
I have seen the 50 fps video of BBC productions from the 1970s, and it's awful
Dylan Parker
>alright for games that's just your conditioning say it to you.
you'd say 60fps is probably bad for games if you were 'stable 30fps' consoletard.
digital films will probably jump to 60fps in time wth more efficient encoding like x265 taking place
Robert Kelly
One more thing, people. Don't watch these in your browser or on your phone. Watch them in a dedicated player like MPC-HC so that you don't get all the problems that come with the browser players and phone players.
Easton White
>Game trailers are not 60FPS
What the fuck are you talking about, there are hundreds of video game trailers on YouTube that are at 60FPS.
Ryan Howard
>Thats because Cameron only used a CG model of him he hasn't released information on it he wants to wait 20 years ebfore coming out and saying it. The red herrings are the Na'vi, while everyone bitches about them he's already broken the mould of making humans look realistic as fuck in CG, Quaritch was that endeavor. haha WHAT
Hunter Diaz
>No please dont stop can you do the one in the rain where he's training?
How far in is it in the movie?
There are none. Youtube uses variable framerate. Netflix does the same thing.
Tyler Collins
Id say about a third? Just before she says you re ready, its when she's teaching him about the bow and arrow and shit and he's like the days are blurring together
Thomas White
>you'd say 60fps is probably bad for games if you were 'stable 30fps' consoletard. Shut up dude, the higher frame rates in games are good for responsiveness not necessarily visual aesthetic
Mason Ward
Your conditioning speaking again
Gavin Thompson
>variable framerate
Source on this info, because 3 minutes of googling has turned up no info on this, as far as I can tell YouTube has 50 and 60fps video
Henry Phillips
Everyone in the world is a sheep apart from you of course x
Colton Morgan
Looks like a documentary, not a movie.
Fuck high frame rate.
Gabriel Fisher
>the definition of a movie involves a defined framerate.
really narrow way to view film as a medium
Colton Williams
>Fixing what ain't broke
You're free to make a movie at 1000fps and I'm free to say it looks like shit and makes me feel sick
Thomas Sanchez
>How far in is it in the movie?
1:15:07
Colton Nelson
pretty sure hollywood doesn't want to go for anythign above 24fps because then their films would look like shit unless they spent more money on better cgi or god forbid better practical effects
Gavin Rodriguez
That's actually pretty good in that section, there's barely any movement. Try this one instead.
Use mediainfo and check the sheet.
Tyler Roberts
This.
but 60fps and higher are viable for experimental films, short films.
Adam Rodriguez
high frame rates look really nice for scenic shots (e.g the space ones) but for people my eyes aren't trained enough for it.
It is really about relearning how to make movies for them. They hide a lot os stuff in chopping 24fps that they can't get away from in real 60fps.
Elijah Hughes
Will it revolutionize cinema, Sup Forums?
Jayden Ward
Funny you name space. Probably because you've seen so little space imagery in films.
Your conditioning speaking
Brayden Gray
>New Animal Farm As long as they don't change a thing and use the book's ending instead of the cartoon's.
Brandon Kelly
>wikipedia >it can only be viewed in mixed frame rate using a special player on RocketJump's website
You forgot the rest...
Nothing in there says youtube uses variable framerate
Ethan Rogers
I think the versions we have are a bit different in time so they don't quite match up.
Liam Parker
Is this Avatar Blu-Ray an official release or a fan made interpolation?
Jackson Adams
That's what mixed framerate means.
Nathaniel Parker
i mentioned space because you'd used space examples. my point was more generally nature and high frame rates look nice to me. definitely elements of conditioning tho.
Benjamin Barnes
Bluray can't do 60fps. This is fan, they are all fan made.
Ayden Wilson
I wonder if Malick's Voyage of Time is in 'cinematic 24fps' or 60fps
Jace Wilson
I know that, but the article you linked refers to a specific series being available on youtube and can be viewed on a special player on their website in mixed framerate. You quoted the article inaccurately and failed to prove YouTube doesn't have true 60fps
>Avatar 2 and the new Animal Farm are being filmed in 60FPS No for Avatar 2, Cameron chickened out and will only shoot in 48 fps.
Dylan Morales
>get a 144hz monitor >download SVP >tfw I unironically enjoy movies at a high frame rate
Brandon Taylor
>being this deluded
Do you know what "mixed frame rate" means? lol
Adrian Flores
It's going to be projected in standard 35mm and IMAX but Doug Trumbull has been a vocal advocate for HFR for many years now
Asher Harris
Did you even read the article? You misquoted a section, alluding to youtube being mixed framerate, when the article was talking about a propriety videoplayer on RocketJumps website(NOT YouTube)
Jordan Perry
Shame. Tree of Life type of sequence at higher frame rate and resolution would've been amazing to see
Aaron Murphy
>type of sequence type of creation sequence*
Oliver Murphy
retard
Evan Clark
source? i just googled and all say 60fps
Jackson Rodriguez
That is incorrect. Learn English. You were also rekt by
Ian Moore
Well it's the whole hand cam zoom in zoomed shot that relies on that. A stupid dramatic shakeup an to the left is what communicates acting to people these days
Ryder Reyes
God damn does this ever reek of shart folks and their disgusting yearly gatherings. The whole football=military fetish is cemented.
Nolan Sanders
You just don't understand freedom
Jayden Hill
You're unironically a pleb.
John Diaz
Go clean your weapon private
Ayden Adams
>video source has different frame rates varying from standard video 24 to 60 >youtube accommodates these changes >faggot on Sup Forums takes this to mean that videos on youtube arent real 60fps >he also uses a fan made video with fake 60fps like the webms in this thread to prove youtube doesnt do real 60fps what am i missing here?
Hunter Cruz
I suppose it's because it's what we were raised on but 60fps movies are really unsettling to watch.
Grayson Jackson
>Frame interpolation
Disgusting
Luke Barnes
I'm literally executing a poisonous vendetta on anyone who tries to justify HFR.
I will find you
And I will eviscerate you
Jeremiah Thompson
Warrior of cinema, is that you?
Evan Watson
The background in this one is a fucking mess
Joseph Davis
that piece of shit gave me an instant headache.
ban HFR.
Mason Taylor
Avatar 2 60fps will be godlike
HFR didnt work with the Hobbit because who wants to see gnomes running around in 48fps
Jaxson Russell
I fucking love HFR. I would honestly prefer every movie to be shot in HFR from here on out.
Took me about ten minutes to adjust to it during The Hobbit. The panning shots move with fluidity, you can ready lips clearer, motion is better.
Bring it on.
Grayson Perry
Higher framerates mean more detail and clarity. It's gonna look weird at first because people won't be used to how it looks and the added clarity will make the sets not look as good, but once we just improve our props and sets to account for that shit so it looks good again it won't be an issue.
Don't forget there was a huge stink about how HD was going to ruin movies and TV because there would be too much detail of the flaws in actors' skin or whatever the fuck, but we got better makeup techniques and better prop/set designs to deal with the added clarity of HD resolutions.
HFR is objectively better, assuming the movie is actually filmed in high framerate (FUCK interpolation), but we'll have to go through an adjustment phase to account for how much better it is just like TV did with HD. It won't be the end of the world, and eventually we'll all look back on 24fps movies and wonder how the fuck anyone watched that slow choppy garbage.
Jeremiah Rivera
I think The Hobbit would have been so much better if they did HFR and NO 3D. I think the 3D is what turned people off of it in the first place, but the HFR itself was gorgeous.
Carson Anderson
Are there any actual movies shot at 60fps? I hate that fake shit like OP is posting
What about 4k? Anything for that?
Brandon Sanchez
The force awakens is pretty cool converted to 60fps. I also watch all my chinese moving pictures at 60 fps
William Peterson
HFR KILLS MOOD. MOOD IS WHAT CONSTITUTES KINO. HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THIS. OF COURSE VIDYA REDDITORS THAT GREW PLAYING CONSOLES WILL LOVE MOVIES LOOKING JUST LIKE THEIR JAPANESE GAMES, BUT PEOPLE WITH ACTUAL EYES AND TASTE WILL HATE IT.
Basically all modern Hollywood films shot on digital are shot in 4K (but mostly released as 1080. Some movies are released in 4K in theaters and on blu ray/4k disc, like The Revenant and The Martian.
Wyatt Bailey
>60fps movies are really unsettling to watch i dont really understand that when we've had video game cut scenes and realistic graphics for years. i can only imagine anything filmed in 60fps looks bad because they use tricks that only work with shitty choppy low frame rate and/or are very very low budget and have shit everything.
when youre running around in a good looking game, its like life in front of your eyes. and tons of people make 60 fps videos of their shows or whatever they do, so its not like live action looks bad by default. it looks good. forced "60"fps also looks like complete shit because its not real. everything looks sped up and weird like these webms.
i dont understand how people can say that 60fps looks bad or weird when its so much better. but i guess i cant expect everyone to not be a piece of shit pleb who only likes consuming trash.
i wish i had that webms of that korean slut dancing at different frame rates, 60, 30, 24, 15, and you could see how much nicer 60 is compared to the other ones
Owen Watson
shorts in Vimeo
spoiler: they look fine
Liam Evans
Will the Revenant be the first movie to make me glad I bought a 4k tv? Can I download the 4k rip onto a USB and watch it that way?
Help me out man
Luis Jones
Knight of Cups should be.
Christian Perez
I agree with you on interpolation FUUUUUCK that. But I still need convincing on 48-60FPS because the hobbit trilogy was dogshit, it just looked so unnatural. Not the actual look of it but the movement was just jarring
Tyler Turner
not sure but the Fifth Element 4k version is 90GB
Tyler Barnes
I have a 250gb drive for movies size doesn't matter, but is it worth it?
Sebastian Morris
actual UHDs are larger. Like 200GB+ if they aren't compressed to hell/x265
That 5th Element at 90GB is really compressed or 1080p with very high bitrate stream, but not 2160p.
Tyler Richardson
>the hobbit trilogy was dogshit, it just looked so unnatural. Not the actual look of it but the movement was just jarring
I blame 2 things:
1. The 3D. 3D is shit.
2. Expectations. You're just not used to it. When you sit down in a movie theater your brain *expects* to see 24fps footage, so when you don't get what you expect the immediate reaction is revulsion. But you probably don't feel the same way about 60fps video games or 60fps live action YouTube videos or 60fps webms of sports activities. That's because you're used to those, but you're not used to seeing a 48fps movie in a movie theater so it betrays your expectation and makes you feel uncomfortable.
Jaxon Thompson
what
how
what
shouldn't 4k only be about twice the size or regular HD? why is it 200gb for a movie not heavily dependent on visual effects
Jackson Taylor
Hopefully the standard has changed in a couple of years. 24 fps is way too low. 48 should be minimum.
How does the fps affects CGI and the sorts? does twice the frames equal almost twice the work for animators and VFX artists or whatever else there is? That fucking budget pit would be hell.
Nolan Garcia
24fps "looking better" is a social construct just like white people "looking better" is a social construct.
EDUCATE YOURSELF
John Green
>does twice the frames equal almost twice the work for animators and VFX artists or whatever else there is?
Yes, as well as twice the rendering time, so twice the electricity and twice the energy spent cooling the computers in the rendering room.
Jason Johnson
>shouldn't 4k only be about twice the size or regular HD?
