The main problem with EU is not the German domination, but domination of little shit countries like Luxembourg and Belgium.
How can this Jew from a tiny piece of shit country rule over a continent of 500 million? It is unacceptable. He abuses his power, and treats larger and more important countries like France, Poland and the UK like his dogs. His behaviour is worse than a swine's, he is a power hungry tyrant who has realized his ambition of being a king of something larger than Luxembourg.
It would be the same as allowing Singapore to dominate the Association of Southeast Asian Nations. It is unacceptable. EU should bar its high offices to places like Estonia and Luxembourg, and only permit senior office holders from countries of Netherlands-size or larger.
Cameron Bennett
Communism is inevitable. It's just the next stage of human evolution, accept it already.
Aaron Hill
EU isn't a bad idea I think in general Europe should be united and have a united Army the only bad thing is immigration and flooding of third world africans and arabs.
Austin Williams
He is just a drunktard cuck, Soros and the likes are behind the scene
Michael Davis
EU is a mistake. Europe was better when it was constantly at war. This too long peace pussified people, made them impotent and ready for islamic invasion.
Anthony Sullivan
He was a PM of Luxembourg for 18 years and a long-time president of the Eurogroup.
Juncker is really eperienced.
Matthew Thomas
>PM of Luxembourg so what? he had a smaller voterbase than most city mayors, and I imagine a PM of luxembourg wouldn't have near the amount of weight and experience in actually relavent political dealings and foreign relations as almost any other european PM
Daniel Wright
Memeing shit on Sup Forums have no idea about his background beside the vague notion that Luxembourg is a tax haven. Same as Soros getting painted as the evil international elite despite him being one of the few richfags that started from 0 (zero).
Levi Nelson
YERR YERR GIBBITY GABBITY t. british parlament
Grayson Howard
experienced in being shit?
Jonathan Barnes
Doesn't matter. Luxembourg is a member of the EU and he was responsible for reaching consensus across the whole bloc on many issues throughout his career.
EU is not an empire, as you've read in Breitbart or Daily Mail. It's a democratic union.
Kevin Rodriguez
Juncker's arrogance, impertinence and unlimited ambition is the reason why EU is falling apart. No self-respecting major country would allow a politician from Luxembourg to dictate to them in the insulting manner in which Juncker has done. He is the reason why UK has left, and France and EE countries, who should be the most loyal supporters of the EU, are at any risk at all. He behaves like he was an Emperor when in reality he is from Luxembourg. If Mogherini or Tusk were President of the EC, this would not be in current state.
This is what happens when you allow a small man from a small country to ascend to a high position. They go mad with power lust and believe too much in their own importance.
Julian Mitchell
>democratic union. Run by unelected people
Zachary Wilson
>Luxembourg is a member of the EU and he was responsible for reaching consensus across the whole bloc on many issues throughout his career. you're speaking as if his previous experience is only meant to be measured by certain criteria and not an overall value of merit and accomplishments would you seriously say that a prime minister of luxembourg would have near the same responsibility, experience, or duty as the prime minister of germany, france, the uk, netherlands etc.? if you don't think he does, then wouldn't you think that there would be innumerable other candidates who at least on paper would be more qualified for the position than a prime minister of a fuggin 500k micronation?
Angel Peterson
>the reason why UK has left >implying this is not a good thing and this was not planned all along to boost eu integration.
Dylan Morris
>It's a democratic union. haha
Michael Moore
It gets worse when you add in that one insignifcant province of Belgium of all places nearly sunk a trade deal a decade in the making. With Canada, of all places.
The EU's pandering to the smaller nations that are part of it is one of its greatest weaknesses.
Jaxson Howard
the EU is such an autocracy we voted to leave it
Chase Wilson
>unelected Elected by the EU council (heads of governments) and confirmed by directly elected members of the European parliament.
Hungarian president is elected by your parliament. Does it mean he has no democratic legitimacy either?
Bentley Gray
>The main problem with EU is not the German domination, but domination of little shit countries like Luxembourg and Belgium. I've been saying this for years and years and years and no one listens to me. Germany doesn't run the EU. If anything they have far too little power.
Benjamin Brown
>If anything they have far too little power. in what way
Connor Cook
That's what Fillon would have pushed for if he had won the elections in France, more power for the big states.
Thomas Lewis
can you or OP explain to me what are you referring to? I'm not being contra, I just don't know how you came to such idea?
Any examples on that?
Zachary Stewart
Hungarian president have little to no power
Alexander Sullivan
yep, seems that they distribute power evenly by nation without taking into consideration the power/population of each nation
it would be kind of like giving each US state one electorate in the election, giving equal power to buttfuck nowhere wyoming as to texas, california, or new york
Carter Nguyen
He's certainly the most qualified candidate because no one else attended so many Council meetings.
One country can veto Council's decisions, that's why it's so crucial to have someone who can facilitate consensus.
Mason Cox
EU A SHIT REMOVE EU RETURN TO ISOLATION NO TRADE NO INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS NO COOPERATIONS ONLY DAGGERS AND AUTARCHY ERSZAT CONVERSION
REMOVE ETHIOPIANS WITH GAS
BACKSTAB ALLIES ALL DAY EVERYDAY
William Young
>He abuses his power, and treats larger and more important countries like France
Luxembourg is a French puppet state, their duke is right wing as fuck but he can't do anything because of Luxembouger(French) socialists
The true cancer of France and the Benelux is the Partie Socialiste and its branch in Belgium, Switzerland and Luxembourg
Luke Hall
Yes, they do exactly that.
That's why each state has two senators (Council and Commission) and electoral districts of the House of Representatives are based on population (more or less), similarly to European Parliament.
Luis Thompson
>Jew from a tiny piece of shit country >being this butthurt I really don't like Juncker myself but whew take your foot off the gas
Jaxson Wright
representation isn't proportional in EU parliament, but it isn't too different compared to the USA in the commission the important seats end up with the important countries for the most part, we get meme seats like digitalization or something the council is a black box and I'd bet money that little countries can do little but nod in that environment
I'm not saying little countries need more representation, but it's far from what you suggest.
Sebastian Gonzalez
The main problem with the EU is not which country the people who dominate it come from, it is that the people who dominate it are scum. Juncker is a piece of shit, Verhofstadt is a piece of shit, Timmermans is a piece of shit, Idk about Tusk, and Schultz is also a piece of shit. In the Netherlands the CDA is a very decent party that looks out for families and small buisiness owners, particuarly farmers. A pretty good party. However, they back the godawful EPP. Labour is good too. I don't agree with their politics, but they are capable politicians, who stand for what they believe in. Except Timmermans. Timmermans is a lying piece of shit. And guess who the Labour party sends to Brussels...
Kayden Young
This desu.Juncker was a decent finance minister,a mediocre prime minister and a shit secretary of the EU
Owen Ortiz
>secretary of the EU You'd really do anything to make it seem like the USSR.
Chase Roberts
Oh no I'm not opposed to the EU and I find it ridiculous how people argue that he shouldn't be President of the european commission because he's from Luxembourg and imply that Luxembourg has in some way more power in the EU than Germany or France which is entirely not true. I'm pretty sure that Juncker doesn't even consider himself luxembourgish anymore but an EU citizen But hey let's give "power" over the EU to another country then,for all I care this won't make a difference in the slightest,if it were a german or whatever,the other countries would feel "oppressed" or "dominated" same with every other country". Might be that I fail to see the bigger picture because of my EU privilege
Anthony Green
quality post
Anthony Collins
>united Army Why when we have Nato?
Dylan Gray
>European Council votes unanimously, every country has a veto, disregarding population size >European Commission votes unanimously, every country has a veto, disregarding population size >European Central Bank Council has rotating voting rights with smaller countries being disproportionally over-represented >European Parliament has 'Degressive Proportionality' (i.e. no proportionality) and a permanent cap for the country with the most seats, smaller member states are disproportinally over-represented
I don't know why you guys opposing the EU are 'screeching' about a 'German-dominated Europe'. A Europe without a EU and a completely sovereign Germany that is not bound by the votes and voices of other states, a completely independant monetary policy, a Germany that is not somewhat tamed by the EU would be way more 'German-dominated'.
Kayden Moore
Thanks my friend. You can count on me.
*winks to Russia*
Lincoln Rogers
I completely agree. Just thought you were sarcastic with that secretary of the EU.
Aaron Howard
His problem is that he's an alcoholic, like Martin Schulz. Eurocrats don't care about countries anyway, they are just their power bases so they can threaten others. It's like the Habsburgs with Austria. They have a power base but the claim is universal. Also the EU is not German dominated, if anything it is propped up by the German economy but instead of blaming Germany for its strong economy blame Britain or France for dismantling their industries (something they laughed at Germany for not doing that back in the day, it was called backwardness).
Jace Flores
>He is the reason why UK has left
>implying it wasn't due to overdose of english mental masturbation
But you are supposed to post reasons why we should hate Juncker, not love him, user.
Brody Ward
I could talk about this forever, but there is a very good post at which explains the basics quite succinctly. In short, Germany doesn't control any of the major bodies in the EU. In fact they are politically quite isolated (which is why there was so much controversy over the 'austerity' measures that were largely proposed by Germany). In particular, the European Council has three main voting blocs — Germany at one pole, France-Italy-Spain and most of the other member states in the centre, and the UK at the opposite end. Because of the way the Council works, Germany has only been able to push through its own proposals without facing veto from the French bloc by relying on the British counterweight and by pulling heavily on support from neighbouring states like the Netherlands and Austria. However, if the UK leaves this will no longer be viable, and it will be quite possible that a France-dominated EU will come to power. The EU parliament is fairly weak and perfunctory, and the German representation is overwhelmingly from the conservative CDU who are not in accord with any of the other member states. (They are generally fiscal conservatives) Ironically the United Kingdom is the closest state to Germany in terms of overall ideology, but the UK has had a schizophrenic attitude towards the EU and so in practice Germany has never had a major ally.
Lucas Sanders
To become a puppet state of United States
Benjamin Taylor
>clapistan's lapdog right on time
Aiden Morales
As opposed to say France's? Doesn't make sense to me. It would also be even more unfair than Nato is in regards to contributions. Really what benefits are there?
Hunter Parker
Need some Mustard gas my friend? War is good thing is it not? Peace is for the weak. Europeans must live a life of conquest and must reclaim everything they once had, including us. Who cares if we don't live? Its fun to walk through a mine field anyway.
Nolan Lopez
As democratic as North Korea.
Matthew Gomez
In theory what you say is true. In truth, every time someone tries to veto something, Germany appears and says "Vote yes, OR ELSE". See Poland, Hungary or the southern states having to vote everything against their national interests.
Cameron Bell
>Luxembourg A portuguese colony
Ian Rodriguez
>he was PM of Luxembourg for 18 years >he's really experienced
Easton Martinez
Because Europe has no control over NATO. It's just a way for America t put you in their back pocket.
Dominic Evans
>h-he's an alcoholic just like the next chancellor of Germany
Matthew Miller
as if you would even know, you're too busy pretending to be neutral.
Jaxson Richardson
Yeah we know. That's the reason Sweden and Finland aren't in NATO already. Well, that and solidarity with one another.
Austin Nguyen
>He is the reason why UK has left That would be the only good thing he ever did in his life if it were true, sadly it isn't.
I'm not really sure on what grounds poland is complaining anyway, Donald Tusk is Council president and Juncker is 10x more relevant than him. I'm not sure you realise you ARE one of the irrelevant non-countries being given disproportional power in the Union.
And you know what? thats FINE. Because its a UNION and we are all at least nominally equal in it. Because otherwise it doesn't work. So someone from Luxemburg has just as much a right to represent and govern in the Union as anyone else. If the worst thing I could say about Juncker is his being from Luxemburg, we wouldn't have any problems.
Austin Johnson
>In truth, every time someone tries to veto something, Germany appears and says "Vote yes, OR ELSE". Except that never fucking happens. I don't even understand where this delusional nonsense comes from. Yes, germany has interests and tries to convince other countries from its PoV. But very often the EU does shit completly against germanies interest. Just look at how the ECB is run, if germany would control EU politics you can bet your ass the Euro wouldn't be such a soft currency and the ECb wouldn't shit all over the old Federal banks monetary policy.
Connor Kelly
You say that but can you give some examples of this? At the moment we have Syria, but if I'm right NATO have nothing to do with it. Countries like the UK have taken part but not as part of NATO.
Recently it's contributed to Libya and Ukraine. Ukraine being a good intervention in my opinion and Libya intervention strongly encouraged by the French who we wouldn't avoid in an EU army. So what are the benefits?