Reminder that there is an alien probe in our solar system and we just need to find it

Reminder that there is an alien probe in our solar system and we just need to find it

Our galaxy is like more than 10 billion years
Lots of stars
Lots of planets

All it takes is one species just one species to spread and have a von Neumann probe everywhere

Think about it

If there is another species spreading throughout our galaxy we would be able to see them doing it.

Because, unless they are retarded, the would literally disassemble every solar system they came to, and they wouldn't skip any solar systems. They would take apart each one.

So we would see a sphere of darkness expanding somewhere.

Since we currently do not see it, they are not there (or are just starting, but statistically that would be on hell of a coincidence.)

>statistics say that we can't be the first
>astronomy says we have to be
Really makes you think

>unless they are retarded, the would literally disassemble every solar system they came to,
>unless are retarded, disassemble solar system
>u are retarded

life has been around for 4 billion years.. and it's just NOW making intelligent life.

the UNIVERSE is only 14 billion years old.

Stable systems have only existed for around 8 billion years.... stable with remnants of hyper-novas to create a variety of reactive elements possibly even less.

We are part of the first wave of intelligence. It is unlikely we will find anything interesting from intelligent life older than us.

>astronomy says we have to be
Sauce because a helio centric idea of the universe has been gone for a very long time

This is an old paradox.

Statistics say we should be in the middle of the pack, but we look out and see no one else.

This means a couple of things

1. We are the first, or 'first enough'
2. Or every civilization kills themselves off around 'this time' in their development
3. Or we are, in fact, alone and the statistics of getting a technological civilization are so low that there might be one in every 10 galaxies.

Astronomy has detected ZERO artificial signals
If we weren't the first
Like say there was another "Us" a million years ago (which is a super short amount of time based on the universe) we'd hear lots of it

The fact that we hear nothing means we're special

The structure of your brilliant argument clearly points to who the retarded one in this discussion is.

Well done.

Tits-nigger is 100% correct

Easier said than done.

Not to mention they'd have to not destroy themselves before that point.

Or the universe is so big that the light from a solar system that currently has life getting to earth now would be from a time where life wasn't so advanced or even existed

It's actually harder said than done
A von Neumann probe is super easy to make
We could make one now given modern technology
We just don't want to

If any single species made just 1 (just one) probe in the last 100 million years, it'd be here

Well, I guess we can't know for sure it isn't until we check each asteroid

In my opinion, there are thousands of von Neumann probes in the solar system. We just haven't seen them yet

Perhaps they are there, because what you're talking about sounds like the Boötes void.

Over 200 billion stars in the Milky Way and over 200 billion galaxies in the obsersable universe which has existed for over 14 billion years and user thinks we are the first or only life. Hahahahaahaaa

You are thinking too primitively
There is nothing special about our life time
There is nothing that says "This is the time for civilizations"

Because the stars offer us a checkerboard of now, the past ,and the future, why is there zero artificial signals?
In our galaxy, we can see 100,000 years in the past, all the way up to as much as 4 years ago.

Zero radio

Retard ideas of disassembling solar systems derserve retard posts

This.
There are more stars in this fucking galaxy than all the beaches on Earth

We have seen so far that every star as planets
If there are billions of planets, why the FUCK haven't we seen any radio yet?

No radio with billions of planets means that life is fucking rare

Why would a species that has the technology to make these probes not be visible in the night sky.

I am Zortron the god emperor of some alien civilization. I have some scientists make some of these probes and they go off into space.

I pick my navel for a few hundred years and then go. "Ok let's do something else with our free time, how about we go into space using our carbon nano-filament tether and start dismantling asteroids to make habs that we put into orbit of our star"

Few hundred years pass and now I have a civilization that has a few trillion 'individuals' living in a bunch of habs that are in orbit of the star and are each harvesting its light with solar panels (and probably running fusion reactors).

At this point i have enough volunteer astronomers in my people to have ach one assigned to look at a planet in each solar system of the galaxy as their full time job.

Unless my probes are deconstructing solar systems why would i bother caring about them (or having them in the first place)

Are you assuming light signals traveling in space don't get red shifted? Are you assuming that light signals traveling in space don't interact with materials/bodies in space changing said signal? Are you assuming that we could even detect/understand a distorted signal in a code that no one can understand? I'm not thinking "primitively" I'm thinking about in terms of physics and chemistry

All i have heard from you is yelling about how retarded it is, why don't you explain to your listeners why it is retarded instead.

retard.

PERHAPS there is a planet out there with lots of niggers that dont want to WORK. But instead when someone invents a radio, they STEAL it and sell it for crack. Perhaps. Who knows? Not me, thats for sure. All i know is that spaghetti is good, and niggers are stupid.

Also, yeah space is .... spacey. Lotta black there, no niggers tho. I HOPE.

I'm not saying there are no extraterrestrials, there most certainly are...
... But if they've attained the level of technology to travel among the stars, we've nothing of interest to them.
For them we're akin to what ants are to you.
To make matters worse we had been broadcasting ourselves out the since the 1920's (radio) and our first broadcast video was the olympics in Hitlers Germany back in the 1930s
Since the 1950s we've broadcasting a lot of fiction, drama and sorrow.
Today we fall more and more "silent" in broadcasting means as the world goes digital.
That's roughly 100 years now. Which means 100 light years radius around us.

Not even a dust mote in the grand scheme of our galaxy, not to mention our universe.
Now, thing of it that other civilizations will undergo similar technological developments and become "radio silent" too after a few decades or within a century.
It's unlikely we will catch their stray signals, let alone "understand/decipher/recognize" them as such at their higher technology levels as a starfaring race.
Akin to a binary HTTPS protocol dump given to a cron magnon prehistoric human who only knows how to draw and paint on his cave walls

>If there is another species spreading throughout our galaxy we would be able to see them doing it.
no you wouldn't, unless it happened long ago and the light or lack of light was just getting to earth

>Because, unless they are retarded, the would literally disassemble every solar system they came to, and they wouldn't skip any solar systems. They would take apart each one.
why? Just why? Why and how would they "disassemble a solar system." This is what is retarded, stop thinking Star Wars is real

>So we would see a sphere of darkness expanding somewhere
See first point I made in this post

what is truly terrifying is that if this is not a naturally occurring phenomenon, its center is only 700 million light years away.

Why does everyone think alien species are hostile?

>Guise this void existed like this 700 million years ago
>it's terrifying

Since we now don't see shit, it means that Zortron and his people went extinct, or they started to be quiet on the EM range

A lot of people suspect that if you can create a von Neumann probe you don't need to worry too much about legacy and the future since you've already guaranteed it

Because people are dumb, im not saying im smart but there is a lot to the saying 'we fear what we dont understand'. Therefore demonizing it makes sense.

I just dont believe alien life would be the same as us. Just like an autist thinks differently from me. An alien might percieve reality in a different way.

People assume too much, who knows. For sure alien life exists, but that it is LIKE us is most unlikely.

negz WAS KANGZ

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Any patterned signal, I have faith that our astronomers can recognize it
It doesn't need to be obvious.
Pretty much any data laden signal would be recognized.

The fact of the matter is that we live in a post WW2 era. We are very VERY good at recognizing any signal that has a message in it
There is so much research into the decay and entropy of meaningful signals

Like half of WW2 signal breaking was determining what was noise and what was signal.
We are good at that

If any signal in space was laden with interior logic, we'd see it.
But we haven't

ok, dumbass, let me explain to you why I would disassemble a solar system.

1. Landing on a planet to 'live on it' is fucking stupid because
a. Finding a good one is a pain in the ass
b. The same matter shielding provided by an atmosphere km in thickness can be obtained by 10 feet of carbon fiber, rock and hydrogen tanks.
c. I can climate control a hab 10 miles in length and 2 miles in diameter better than a planet
d. I can build a shit ton of surface area for 'people' to live on out of asteroids, and eventually out of whole planets encasing the whole sun in a dyson swarm.

I REALLY WANT a dyson swarm asap because harnessing the entire star's output via panels would give me more power than any science fiction book ever imagined.

I would literally have enough energy to slag the surface of every planet within a few thousand years in this galaxy. Or to be able to move my whole solar system.

You are so naive

Take any song, translate it into Japanese, beam the signal, while signal is in transit red shift. Now receive it midway, at the end, you don't know and then translate it with out a Japanese to English dictionary. Good luck

A majority of stars in our galaxy are dwarf stars
Or so they seem

So maybe you're right and half of those dwarf stores are just regular G-type that are covered in a Dyson swarm

its in your anus

The reason why "every alien species would be hostile is"...

If they use the same resources that we would (matter and energy) they would show up and use them.

They would use them by taking our matter (including us) and taking our energy.

If they are coming to us then the encounter would look a lot like a mining crew with 1 Million Dollar earth moving equipment being observed by a small colony of ants at the site of the excavation.

Don't get me wrong, the mining company is responsible towards nature, and employs a lot of honest hard working people.

But the ants disappear within the first few minutes of the site being worked.

You're wrong
We would never be able to translate it completely, but we'd easily be able to recognize the data laden content of it

Data has a "mass" in info streams. You can't hide it. It's in the kind of variation in the transmitted data
Language has an obvious stream marker

Like even if you never knew morse code a basic crypto could tell there is a language there

>1. Landing on a planet to 'live on it' is fucking stupid because
>a. Finding a good one is a pain in the ass
Yes
>b. The same matter shielding provided by an atmosphere km in thickness can be obtained by 10 feet of carbon fiber, rock and hydrogen tanks.
>c. I can climate control a hab 10 miles in length and 2 miles in diameter better than a planet
How are you going to build something 10x2 miles made of carbon fiber and rock? Where are you going to build it?
>d. I can build a shit ton of surface area for 'people' to live on out of asteroids, and eventually out of whole planets encasing the whole sun in a dyson swarm.
Can you now? It's now easy and cost effective to get shit into space where you live?


Literally everything you mentioned is from a sci-fi fantasy. Pro tip the world/technology/science isn't there yet

your line of logic is flawed. You are essentially saying our life form is the only possible intelligent outcome. It took apes only a couple million years to evolve into humans - and in the past half million years we went from rocks to rockets. not only could there be other intelligent life out there older than ours - it could have happened and disappeared millions of years ago.

Okay fair point, but why would it be reasonable to spend all that energy and those resources to come all the way over here, just to destroy us. Other than the reason that we are eventually probably gonna be a threat to them.

We kinda suck at finding them, so they could just hide. I presume.

Maybe not older, but imagine where we might be had we not had 1000 years of stagnation that were the middle ages

But if another species is older and more intelligent/advanced than us, maybe they've found a way to hide themselves? In terms of communications, signals, things astronomers would pick up on.

You have no clue what you are talking about. Good day faggot

Why hide though?
You imply that the galaxy is full of assholes ready to come down on whatever race that makes themselves visible

almost none of u people do. Still entertaining tho.

holy shit are you stupid. another faggot that thinks that every other intelligent civilization or life form has to conform exactly to what we are doing here. get your head out of your ass. maybe we are surrounded by evidence but are yet unable to see/sense it.

it bewilders me when humans take the approach of ignoring the fact that we are still ignorant of so fucking much, what we do know is just the tip of the iceberg floating in an ocean of mysteries and unknowns. Shit we haven't even thought about asking yet.

Go to bed kid

Agreed op, Speaking about space, NOW SHOW ME YOUR RED ROCKET

We aren't talking about us right now.

We are talking about civilization long term in space.

If humanity continues to exist for another thousand or two years we will probably be able to get some fusion power generation going, and we will be able to get better carbon macromolecule production as well.

Doing this would allow us to get into space and 'do shit'

Eventually some enterprising are going to start harvesting solar radiation for power in space, and probably building structures in space as well because 'the earf be full of ppl yo'

This would be the natural start to this process. One would assume that an alien civlization would do the same thing if they existed.

Once you have habs and manufacturing in space making more habs and manufacturing in space becomes easier.

Also launching ships to other solar systems using the power in your system (a big fucking lazer for example) is much better than burning fuel on the ship. You just have to give the ship enough to slow down.

I didnt mean OP, ment user* its a lil late for me. Goodniggernight

I like meeting people like you because it justifies my entire study

Data density is an important part of linguistics
Data structure
Data formatting

Language is just a way we shoot data packets at each other
There has been a lot of research about what that really means.
What does it mean to say "You are a faggot"
What part of that message is identificable as data? What part can be discarded? How much do you need to read in order to know the next word?

Language is not just a code, but a predictive software

Well another user was saying that a lot of us humans are afraid of what we most likely won't understand, that is an alien life. Maybe they're like us on that regard. They're afraid of what is out there, so they hide.

Look at this basic nigger that thinks that the EM spectrum is just a thing that humans have seen by chance

Look at him and laugh

more assumptions that other intelligent life would kill itself off. Look around you idiot. We are essentially the only species on this planet that does that. other life forms could be more in line with insects or mammals that inhabit harmlessly their environment while achieving superior intelligence. maybe they manipulate light. maybe they don't communicate like us. maybe they are more like a hive and less prone to war.

go fuck yourself.

this thread is gay

Hiding is a bad strategy.

If I go balls to the wall in technological expansion and power production i would be very visible. I'm not saying signal, i'm saying "My sun would go out, and i would be venting a ton of waste heat from my solar system"

The reason why I don't care about hiding is because once my dyson swarm is up and running i can begin expanding to every solar system around me at nearly the speed of light, and there is not a damn thing anyone can do about it because i am harnessing the entire output of my home star and can make weapons that would make a nuke look like the entire forces of NATO coming to beat up a drunk in a bark parking lot.

go back to mlp then you lowlife faggot

maybe they just dont use radio waves to communicate. holy shit you guys are stupid.

this must be b8

user, you touched me, inside of me. And now u have shit on your hands!!!!!!!!111111 and yeah wtf are you on about even

that doesnt guarantee another life form arose on another planet that figured out how to manipulate and interpret electromagnetic waves

Humans have shown that basic fears are nothing to capitatlism
Just basic grown, right?

There are 100 billion worlds in the galaxy.
Only 100 000 years apart
Are you saying that literally none of them tried radio?

It's not about politics or possibility.
It's about what we see
Which is nothing

That's saying in a 100 billion planet galaxy with 0.00000001 planets like Earth absolutely none of them is still transmitting radio?

go back to /s4s/ and come back with good insults

>let me explain to you why I would disassemble a solar system.
Nigger, you fucking DUMB ASS, you said ALIENS above. no one gives a shit what you would do, because you're a faggot. And because you're a flaming cum guzzling homo fairy boy, that's precisely the reason an alien would most likely do the exact fuckity g opposite of whatever you think.

this thread is fucking gay and should be on /x/ we dont need Sup Forums being any more retarded then it all ready is.

Google "Black Knight," shit's been up there at least 60 years.

Ignorant negro
Even if they don't use radio precisely, then red shifting would make their signals radio

But that's assuming we can read signals above radio, which we can. There are no organized signals of any part of the EM spectrum

Looking at the galaxy now, we are the first being in a 100,000 years that can make EM radiation

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PORN DOESN'T BELONG HERE EITHER THEN
FUCK OFF
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I sense some butthurt, please do stay if you wish. But you can fuckoff to some other shit thread showing women get blacked, or some trap sucking cock, thats perfectly fine as well since you most likely enjoy those threads more than what I do.

>if they've attained the level of technology to travel among the stars, we've nothing of interest to them.
>For them we're akin to what ants are to you
This
/thread

...

go back to /x/ form a meat up and do every one a favor and poison the punch bowl

yes you seem very angry indeed. Well then, making a silly twat cry on Sup Forums is not very hard. Anyways, fuckoff from the thread. Whatever you might think about this thread, its atleast better than the common blacked threads or trap shit. Anyway as I was saying, fuckoff and die or something you lowlife. Seriously, no one really cares.

>That's saying in a 100 billion planet galaxy with 0.00000001 planets like Earth absolutely none of them is still transmitting radio?
I don't know why you're bringing up politics and human psychology, it's entirely possible an alien race is built (in terms of body and mind) completely different to us and therefore our psychology is useless in application to aliens.

And you pretty much answered it yourself with what I green texted above. And how do you know there aren't countless other ways to communicate without using a radio but on the same scale, ways we couldn't see with our technology? They'd obviously at the very least have a different history than us, are you saying that an alien race would have made the same breakthroughs at the same times and in the same order? Maybe they discovered a new way and never even created the radio as we knew it.

I think you're just too focused in the idea that aliens would be like us. It's like trying to imagine a new colour, or a new way to design a person. We think we have the ONLY way, or the best way, meanwhile we might be one model of many that could exist out there with different bodies and brains, maybe these aliens don't even have vocal cords. Maybe they don't have senses like us. Maybe their concept of communication is way different than ours.
You never know

''Meat up''
>user is an autistic german confirmed

Please return to r/atheism.

You mean poison the meat bowl?

I'm not bringing up politics
I don't know why

There are over 100 billion stars in our galaxy
Likely 300+ stars
And every single one we check out has planets

How many have Earths?
Even if you make it 1/1000
That's a FUCKLOAD of Earths

you keep bring up blacked and trap threads seems some ones projecting probably because youre a gay fag who watches the discovery Chanel thinking that makes him some sort of scientist but that dosnt matter because a alien race that can space travel wouldnt want shit to do with the human race

go back to punch form a /X/ up and do every one a favor and poison the meat bowl

And you think a radio, as we know it, would have been discovered or created on each of these planets the same way everytime?

If we are trying to find aliens why would we be looking for their communication signals instead of the necessary byproducts of their civilization?

Like
1. Ship energy signatures
2. Megastructures
3. Waste heat
4. Your mother will die in her sleep if you don't reply to this post.

Niggas they be walken among us

Speaking about projection, you're the first one who mentioned 'liking' it. If you have read freud, which I doubt, you just admitted to liking traps and blacked threads.

Dont be angry user. We get it, you have ''issues'' because you are an autistic german.
And yeah whatever I said before, go and die somewhere. Seriously, what do you add to the world? Not like you got a workplace, or that youre going to Uni, like me. Silly loser :-D Go enjoy your TRAP and BLACKED threads bud.

>alien race that can space travel wouldnt want shit to do with the human race
This is such a gay thing to think. Everyone is always saying this. You don't fucking know what we could offer aliens. Maybe we have something we don't know is special because it's commonplace to us.

Jesus Christ get some confidence.

You're thinking that a radio is something special
Like a language between people
Like English between Japanese
Only normal that the two don't see eye to eye

But EM transmission aren't like that
ANY pattern is recognizable as patterns

Any civ to transmit anything on ANY EM spectrum would be immediately recognizable.
You think we don't check that shit?
From IR to Gamma we check all signals

And you know what?
They're all random

There are no signals at all

go punch to back form a /X/ up and do every one a favor and meat poison the form bowl

All those things you brought up, I could copy paste my argument and it would still make sense. You're too focused on the idea aliens would be exactly like us with the same history in terms of inventions and discoveries. If anything, the greater chance is that they are nothing like us at all.

during the eclipse a few people in my town, me included, saw a black round object over our town. It flew over by our wind turbine(it was spinning fairly quickly) and then the turbine almost instantly slowed to a crawl.

anyone else experiance something?

I never said I like them and how can you be going to a good field in uni and be an autist who thinks aliens want shit to do with earth because some /x/ fag made a thread

fake and gay

If aliens do not consume matter or energy like we do we wouldn't even recognize them as life.

If they do consume matter and energy they would be using their biology or technology to do so.

We would recognize these activities as 'byproducts of their civilization'

I do not know how any of these statements assume that they are anything like us other than they interact with matter and energy in a way we would recognize as life.

Anons autism really oozes out through the board. How very sad. Its ok user, you're special. Lets leave it at that. You know user spent a long time writing that reply. Very sad indeed.

>doesn't know about the void

just to keep in line with your nigger shit.

Africa, still would be living in the stone age if it wouldn't have been colonized by Europeans.

Same planet. Essentially, the same species. Only different continents. Whites and blacks are centuries apart in their technological skill.

Not all species would do things the same way.

>there is an alien probe

I know

True. Niggs had railways before the chinks, and compare chinks to ongos today? Ongos are bongos clearly

Look at this basic nigger that thinks he knows how beings from other worlds do things.

Fuck you

Well maybe it's not special to us because it's so commonplace.

>But EM transmission aren't like that
ANY pattern is recognizable as patterns

I don't really know anything about how radios work, all I'm thinking is that there surely has to be more ways to communicate, and again it's possible a radio would be useless to a race of aliens who don't speak or vocalise or hear. They could do everything mentally, for example, and even if they thought up a radio like what we use, it would be useless for them.

>Any civ to transmit anything on ANY EM spectrum would be immediately recognizable. You think we don't check that shit? From IR to Gamma we check all signals. And you know what? They're all random

And how would we know they're random? Like maybe they look and act random to us, but maybe this is a scale of communication for an alien race. Maybe we can't see what would be useless for us, maybe we can't comprehend it intellectually. I just think we shouldn't be so closed off to the idea we're unique, we could work differently in comparison to an alien race.

I know we're all fucking dumb, but maybe we're dumb AND unique.

yes reply to me like a retard get us to that post limit

holy shit you are retarded. are you of african descent?