Thoughts on loli?

thoughts on loli?

Other urls found in this thread:

salon.com/2010/01/19/trauma_myth_interview/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Clancy#The_Trauma_Myth
ipce.info/library/journal-article/trauma-myth
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rind_et_al._controversy
mhamic.org/rind/
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100196502/guardian-paedophiles-are-ordinary-members-of-society-who-need-moral-support/
mhamic.org/sources/sandfort.htm
telegraph.co.uk/comment/10948796/Paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males.html
theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light
newgon.com/wiki/Research
ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume16/j16_2.htm
ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume10/j10_1.htm
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Morality_and_the_Law
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers
rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/01/07/don_t_pooh_pooh_the_left_s_push_to_normalize_pedophilia
human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/when-rape-is-not-rape
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_as_an_adult
cnn.com/2011/09/27/health/transgender-kids/
google.com/webhp?ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=circumcision and consent
ipce.info/host/rivas/positive_memories.htm
sexarchive.info/BIB/pedophilia.htm
articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/local/la-me-pedophiles-20130115
huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/01/dsm-pedophilia-mental-disorder-paraphilia_n_4184878.html
phys.org/news/2010-11-legalizing-child-pornography-linked-sex.html
phys.org/news166769376.html
human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt/legal-child-pornography-reduces-child-sex-crimes-milton-diamond-hawaii
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_pornography_and_child_sexual_abuse
youtube.com/watch?v=zec7oZUrGg8
cracked.com/personal-experiences-1658-5-ways-were-making-pedophilia-worse.html
falkvinge.net/2012/05/23/cynicism-redefined-why-the-copyright-lobby-loves-child-porn/
falkvinge.net/2012/09/07/three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized-in-the-coming-decade/
falkvinge.net/2012/09/11/child-porn-laws-arent-as-bad-as-you-think-theyre-much-much-worse/
human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt
human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt/watching-child-pornography-victimizes-child-voodoo-science
wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn
cnet.com/news/study-wikipedia-as-accurate-as-britannica/
twitter.com/SFWRedditGifs

lo
li

Yes

Should be illegal

OP here thanks for the real answer do you care to explainn why?

...

...

love 'em

loli a shit, big is best

...

OP here can you guys give me reasons why you like or dislike loli?

Loli can depict the very best of pedophilia: cute, shy, lewd, etc .. without the drawbacks: actual fucking children, LEA and so forth.

I like them cause they make me want to insert my penis deep inside on their vaginas
also they are not smelling,boring,mean,disgusting and evil like real people,therefore,like real women and real lolis
2D is superior

No. As much as I hate fucking loli bullshit, it's much better to let pedophiles jack themselves off to cartoons than actually cp or molesting kids.

Better outlet for people with these tendencies than restricting them and making them go after actual children wouldn't you say? Then again, when did age suddenly become a large part of our cultural restrictions? Throughout history it's usually been "have kids as soon as able", but in the last couple centuries or so that took a turn. Curious. But in other responses, studies have shown that fictional depictions do in fact reduce the amount of real world assaults, so there's that. Why the curiosity OP?

Society advanced and realized that abusing children for sex is fucking disgusting.

Pretty interesting answer out there because yes:
When did the age enter in the norm, of course it's a question of morality and decence, loli is the part of extreme where you love very young children, that fact it is bad is, they are young, and innocent, they don't even know nor need sex and else, it's a reproductionnal system things, in the wildness it's visible to see old animal f*** younger or really younger but we have morality about what is weak and what need to be protected by normal human violence. Loli 2d is great because it show something to calm down pulsion of people whithout hurting anybody and giving job to artist that in this world is hard* to live. But isn't moral because it still show off this simple pure violence in most way... It's a tricky question because there is good and bad but normies can't debate because "nuh its pedophile" without watching the tricky moral part in there... or it is just me ? The question is good so as the topic

name?

I think you should post more before I give a definitive answer

OP here thank you

On child sexuality not being harmful
====================================

Research
--------
Susan Clancy:
salon.com/2010/01/19/trauma_myth_interview/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Clancy#The_Trauma_Myth
ipce.info/library/journal-article/trauma-myth

Rind, Tromovitch, Bauserman:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rind_et_al._controversy
mhamic.org/rind/
blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/damianthompson/100196502/guardian-paedophiles-are-ordinary-members-of-society-who-need-moral-support/

Other:
mhamic.org/sources/sandfort.htm
telegraph.co.uk/comment/10948796/Paedophilia-is-natural-and-normal-for-males.html
theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light
newgon.com/wiki/Research
ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume16/j16_2.htm

Second-hand harm:
ipt-forensics.com/journal/volume10/j10_1.htm

Food for thought
----------------
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_Morality_and_the_Law
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers
rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/01/07/don_t_pooh_pooh_the_left_s_push_to_normalize_pedophilia
human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/teenage-sexuality/when-rape-is-not-rape

What about consent?
----------------
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_as_an_adult
cnn.com/2011/09/27/health/transgender-kids/
google.com/webhp?ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=circumcision and consent

part of the research i found

OP here and these describe why sex with chidren isnt bad?

...

THIS

but not 100%
i love loli yet I find real little girls disgunsting,smelly and repulsive

Sex with children is bad though.

same

Anecdotes
---------
ipce.info/host/rivas/positive_memories.htm

On pedophilia not being a disorder
==================================

Research
--------
sexarchive.info/BIB/pedophilia.htm
theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/03/paedophilia-bringing-dark-desires-light
articles.latimes.com/2013/jan/14/local/la-me-pedophiles-20130115
rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/01/07/don_t_pooh_pooh_the_left_s_push_to_normalize_pedophilia
huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/01/dsm-pedophilia-mental-disorder-paraphilia_n_4184878.html

On legalizing child pornography
===============================

Research
--------
phys.org/news/2010-11-legalizing-child-pornography-linked-sex.html
phys.org/news166769376.html
human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt/legal-child-pornography-reduces-child-sex-crimes-milton-diamond-hawaii
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_pornography_and_child_sexual_abuse

Food for thought
----------------

youtube.com/watch?v=zec7oZUrGg8

cracked.com/personal-experiences-1658-5-ways-were-making-pedophilia-worse.html

Falkvinge:
falkvinge.net/2012/05/23/cynicism-redefined-why-the-copyright-lobby-loves-child-porn/
falkvinge.net/2012/09/07/three-reasons-child-porn-must-be-re-legalized-in-the-coming-decade/
falkvinge.net/2012/09/11/child-porn-laws-arent-as-bad-as-you-think-theyre-much-much-worse/

human-stupidity.com:
human-stupidity.com/irrationality/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt
human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/child-porn-witch-hunt/watching-child-pornography-victimizes-child-voodoo-science

Wikileaks:
wikileaks.org/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn


Wikipedia is actually a very good starting point. You may not be able to cite it directly as a source, but it's a credible place to go.
cnet.com/news/study-wikipedia-as-accurate-as-britannica/

Is this little girl disgusting, smelly, or repulsive?

As long as it's just a drawing, I'm okay with it. Otherwise you should be lynched.

This is a loli that cut off her own head and is now eating herself out.

OP here i know im asking if the links are trying to say that having sex with children is not bad? also another question for you people what age do you believe should consent be then with 3d girls

what part from "real little girls" did you not understand?
or are you just retard?

boring

Toddlercon is the real deal

Nope, she's a monster.

I looked at the 2nd link briefly and it seems to suggest that sexual encounters with children (not explicitly sex/penetration) were not viewed as traumatic/hurtful by the child at the time, the victim's only viewed it as traumatic much later when they were told that they were abused.

I'd call this bs but I had sexual encounters with other children when I was very young (around 9). Basically experimenting, which is normal for most children, and I don't feel traumatized at all. Being touched by an adult might be different but I have no experience with such things.

I have heard from a few sources that when adults touch children (not penetration) that they were more confused about sex than anything else. Inserting your full grown penis or even fingers (digital penetration) would of course be quite painful to a little girl who isn't physically developed yet.

Summary?

...

>Loli 2d is great because it show something to calm down pulsion of people whithout hurting anybody and giving job to artist that in this world is hard* to live.
The notion "if we allow it a little people won't push further" is just a feeling of yours and by no means an established fact.
Sure - sexual urges are a thing, but i don't think rape numbers would change if pedos were forced to fap to young looking porn stars instead of doujins like "oni chaan, but i'm only 2 years oold".
People need to release somehow, but keep in mind that people fapped before the internet was a thing - we don't technically need HD porn to survive.

3D as in computer models or 3D as in real life? If it's the latter, then 18.

...

...

That's not very nice

You better knock that shit off

I don't fap to it but I don't care that other people do.

>implying

It's a fact though.

...

basically people believe a lie. and there is no such harm depending on the relationship.

make me

If you jerk off to loli or shota porn, then you are a pedophile. Seek help before you turn to real cp (assuming you haven't already)

the donuts store is over there

Is it hard to believe that some people simply prefer 2D though?

>Ones and zeroes are real children

fuck off

I don't know what you're talking about anen. I love loly shoto.

Shitt "argument" though. CP videos are also ones and zeros.

Thanks. I started reading it.

I can't believe normies hate-mailed a legitimate researcher all the way to Nicaragua. I mean disagree with the opinion, but wow.

And then they wonder why kids don't report the incident.

OP here so here's another odd ball if you could have an intimate relationship with a ''child'' im talking 8 and up would you?

People who masturbate to it are deplorable and disgusting, however since there's no actual direct victim as a result of a loli picture, then it's ridiculous to make it illegal. If, let's say, we start making loli illegal because we claim it causes pedophiles, then we'll need to start making Gender Studies and African American Studies degrees illegal as well, because they cause insufferable faggotry.

Just because you don't like something doesn't give you the right to dictate if they should use it.

People in general should stay the fuck out of everyone else's business when it doesn't concern them.

always good when Lillie

Obviously it's just drawings, but you're still getting off to the image of a child getting naked/fucked

Requesting lolis with older women

that light sexual experimentation in children mid pubescence children (of the same and opposite sex) and younger adults is a normal part of their development. It says nothing about it being okay for prepubescent children to be sexually engaged with adults.

is this bait or are really a fucking retard?oh yeah?
people say a cop must admit he is a cop if asked so. Are you a cop?

Age of consent is silly because consent is a law definition and cannot be measured biologically.

A 13 year old girl cannot consent to sex but a 13 year old boy can be charged as an adult with a first degree murder charge. Why?

A 17 and 364 day old young man cannot consent to sex either, but 24 hours later something biologically about him changed that he can now grasp the consequences of engaging in sexual contact. Why?

Boys and girls as young as 5 cannot consent to sex, obviously, they couldn't even tell you the difference between their elbow and a blade of grass. However when you reach the 11+ range you begin to see that different people mature at a different rate both physically and mentally. In California a 14 year old can acquire a work permit and work alongside adults making decisions that adults also make, but they cannot consent to sex or have alcohol the same way that the adults they work with do?

In the end the "age of consent" is a moral issue and should probably be left up to the family and the child to decide at what age they are allowed to become sexually active. If a 13 year old girl wants to have sex with her 15 year old boyfriend and both of her parents are okay with it, as are his, I'm surely not going to stop them, and the boy should not face the possibility of being jailed and put on the sex offender registry for having sex with his girlfriend who's only a couple years younger than him.

...

Not bait.

Maybe.

Valid point, but I was referring to 2D and SFM stuff, not real CP, and you knew it.
They are not real. Most of the time they don't even look realistic. Look at the girls in this pic, do you think they have the proportions of an average human child?

i like them because its hot pics of children ( even if theyre just drawings ) without the abuse of real children

What is it exactly that you find attractive about this?

>was referring to 2D and SFM stuff
Don't see where i could have gotten that from but whatever. Go ahead then.

not being able to spot the difference between fucking drawings and real childreen,makes a person retard for me
oh yeah?
what's your position on drug use?

...

I just love cute things

You You selling? I don't know what you're talking about. Okay. That's cool. I'm just saying, you know, if you were selling I could maybe do with a teenth. You're kidding, right? Dude, I so smell bacon. What? What are you talking about? Oh, gee, I don't know. How about over there. That brown van. That's yours, right? What brown van? Parked all inconspicuous. It's a cop van. Yeah, another one right over there. "Duke City Flowers"? Come on. Can't you at least be original? A flower van. You know what you should do is a garbage truck. Seriously, and I don't mean to disrespect but if you put cops in the back of a garbage truck there's no way I'm seriously thinking that there's cops in the back of a garbage truck. It's a freebie, yo. Just think about it. Think about it, boys. All right. I'm hitting it. You dudes give up that easy? I'm not a cop. Then lift your shirt. Show me you're not wearing a wire. All right, you know what? Just to show you you're being an asshole. I'm blinded by white. Douchebag. Come on. I was joking. Come on. Don't walk away angry. Sit down. Come on. I mean, what are you complaining about? You got abs, man. Kind of. Whatever, dude. I'm not even sure I wanna buy anymore. I think you turned me off to the whole thing. Come on. Don't be like that. I just need you to prove it, you know? Prove you're not a cop. How the hell am I supposed to do that? I don't know. Hey, I got it. Go over there and punch that dude right in the face. Which dude? - That dude? - to tell you. It's in the Constitution. Constitution of America? So go ahead and ask. - You a cop? - No, no. Not like that. Ask it, like, official. Are you a police officer? No, I am not a police officer. Okay, then. Hundred and seventy-five for a teenth. The price is the price, yo. All right. There you go. Enjoy. Thanks, man. Albuquerque Police! You're under arrest! Get on the ground! Get on your stomach now! On your stomach! Get on the ground! Hold it right there. Don't move. Stay down.

...

More loli buttplugs.

...

...

>The way he gently strokes her face
Hnnnnggg

Ok, you want the retard explaination? Let's do this:
If you have a cp picture and take a look at the first pixel, you would probably conclude that this pixel isn't cp. Now if you copied that pixel to another picture it still wouldn't be cp. If you did this to every other pixel the second picture technically wouldn't be cp, the authorities may disagree though because they conclude that the sum of ones and zeros can be counted as cp.
It will be interesting when animation quality reaches realism and people will have to start to figure out what is real and what is not.

pedophilia.

...

to ya all cops round here
i will place these over here

now fuck off

at this scenario (loli) you have drawings,no real people involved besides the artist
as for CP,there are real people involved,real childreen
more than this,most of the loli arts round here look very different from real childreen

now fuck off

kek

>The difference between recorded frames through a camera
>and a computer generated image
You do know how cameras work, right? Big difference between a camera-generated image and a computer-generated image

Meh there's 6 trillion loli threads each week, this is a discussion thread - you fuck off.

i have my rights!!

i wonder why they haven't capitalized on virtual lolis that you can talk and fuck.

No, we may live to see the point where there is no more visible difference though.
Even today it's quiet possible to generate pictures which are technically not cp, but still look like it.
The authorities would still put you in jail for owning that shit. Explained

no sir,you fuck off

now if excuse me,it's time to take my daughter to school

Can't quite make out the second to last kanji...
kyou mitai [???]onna.

>No victim
>No child was harmed
>but because it LOOKS like cp ya off to jail kid
CP is not a victimless crime. You can't claim something is CP just because it looks like it, there has to be a real, living child involved in the production of it. How else would you prove it?

...

>You can't claim something is CP just because it looks like it.
So you're saying the cops won't lock you the fuck up if they can't identify the victim because she may be not real?

...

...

if she's not real the cops wont lock you up in the first place dumb ass.