I didn't know where to post this, so here I am. Let me break it down for you: I am a French national, born and raised in France to a French father. However, my mother is a Spaniard (she's lived in France for 20+ years now, not naturalized), I speak fluently the language and I've spent everyone of my summers in Spain, knowing my cousins/uncles/aunts/grand parents. I had 18 years last November btw.
Can I ask for dual-citizenship to get a Spanish ID and passport? And if yes, how would it be useful?
I think that you could get it Any son/daughter of spanish people can access directly to the citizenship I would ask in a consulate/embassy
Matthew Adams
Alright, if possible I plan on getting my papers this summer. The thing is I just read that Spain only authorizes dual citizenship with specific (mainly hispanic) countries. I guess that's for naturalized Spaniards, not for "Jus Sanguinis" Spaniards.
Nicholas Johnson
That's about being a full amerindian from Ecuador, you live a couple of years in Spain and they give you the citizenship If any of your parents is spaniard you can get the spanish citizenship, it doesn't matter if you were born,for example, in Korea and you are half korean, you still can get the citizenship
Tyler Gray
But I will be able to keep my French citizenship at the same time, right?
Ethan Morris
God damn it I am tied to Spanish history being part of Spain until 1900s when cunt got stolen by USA, I am spaniard!
Hudson Allen
OP, the Spanish guy is wrong. You will not get the Spanish citizenship because you already have it by birth! What you have to get is the Spanish passport, the citizenship is something immaterial which is different from being entitled to a citizenship which you would have to apply for in another case.
So you have to apply for a Spanish passport, not the citizenship. Go to the website of the Spanish embassy and read which documents you need to apply for the passport.
Evan Perry
Worst case scenario you lie and tell them you renounce you French nationality
Aiden Roberts
Now I need moneys and get job in Spain to relocate when ancestors were spaniards who got cut off by USA from spen
David Sanders
Listen, you already are a Spanish citizen and a French citizen by birth. Most EU countries have no problem with dual nationalities of other members, especially by birth. You have to apply as a Spanish citizen for a passport.
Bentley Diaz
Yeah, you said it better than me
And OP, you can keep both passports
Ian Watson
> And if yes, how would it be useful? The two passports can be helpful to bypass travel bans that countries have imposed on each other based on travels, for example Israel and the Arab states. Furthermore you might be allowed to vote in Spanish and it would make some things easier if you lived in Spain or studied there, it doesn't improve your travel freedom, though, since it seems like the visa restrictions of other countries seem to be the same.
A possible disadvantage are drafts and sometimes countries bar dual national from certain sensilble areas like defense, intelligence and politics but this shouldn't be a problem within the EU, though.
Gabriel Sanchez
Are you from Florida?
Thanks guys, that's good to hear! Btw, is it true that some passports, even from within the Eurozone, are "better" than others, or is it just a myth?
Adam Lopez
Cuba got conquered by USA in war, when I speak Spanish and have Spaniard ancestors.
Justin Martinez
Nevermind my last post, this sums it up perfectly. Another one: if Spain one day decides to go to war and to draft its fighting age males, what would happen to me?
David Collins
Lost Spanish nationality.
Juan Fisher
Yes, this is very true. It's only marginally different for the Northern and Western European countries and more different for the eastern ones. For example Poland is not included in the US' visa-waiver program.
Based on your flag I concluded you live permanently in the mainland, that's why I crossed out Cuba and Puerto Rico.
Zachary Nelson
>this deluded CHI again
Jeremiah Smith
I do live in Florida but that's besides point of my nationality at birth not being Spanish because of us conquest of Cuba.
Wyatt Garcia
You are obligated to fight for Spain because your are their citizen but they won't come to get you in France but the moment you have entered Spanish territory the military police will arrest you.
Jaxon Powell
Thanks for the answer, I'm going to check it out
Henry Myers
Alright, and I guess the government would rip my citizenship off for being a defector right?
Logan Parker
Spain doesn't recognize a dual citzenship like UK does but it doesn't give a fuck either. So it's not an issue but if you want the passport it may be a bit tricky due our bureaucracy.
Elijah Wood
You're whiter than most spaniards actually
Mason Foster
Just a quick look, the French passport seems better because it is completely visa free for Turkey while with the Spanish one you get an arrival visa. No difference otherwise.
Jackson Mitchell
i want a house there to visit but i dont want to be citizen.. how possible is that
Juan Hall
I'm not, I'm shitskins compared to spen ancestors and most non immigrant spen citizens.
Owen Evans
Well, that may be a problem then... I will deal with all this this summer. But do they have a way of checking if I hold dual citizenship?
Samuel Thompson
I don't really know very unlikely scenario. Keep in mind though that citizenships by bloodline are pretty much for eternity and a Spanish lassport would make things easier for your future children. You don't know what their life path might look like and what the future brings.
Colton Parker
What is "spen"? > tfw most of my spanish family is white as fuck
Carter Wood
Spain, I have feeling you're a half moor if so stay away from Spain.
Samuel Wood
That's exactly my thought process, if I one day have to work in Spain, or marry a Spaniard, or if I simply want to live there, a passport/ID will be the most useful thing in the world
Nolan Kelly
I think Spain doesn't authorize dual citizenship for already Euro citizens. So you'd have to renounce your French citizenship.
Anyway, why do you want Spanish citizenship? Being from a EU country you wouldn't have any problems asking for residence status.
Henry Sanders
>But do they have a way of checking if I hold dual citizenship?
Was your mother a Spanish citizenship at the time of your birth? If yes, then you are already a Spanish citizen. You prove it by shoeing them the documents of your mother during your passport application.
John Smith
> I'm shitskin
I don't think so, these are shitskin
Kayden Myers
Why would I be half moor?
Ayden Rogers
Can I dig up a Spaniard ancestors records from 1900s and such for citizenship?
Ryan Clark
Flag
Joseph Reed
Given the current stability of the EU, I'd prefer having a back up plan.
Yes she was, and she still is, it's just that I was born in France
Daniel Martin
Well thank god I am not. My father actually is a Breton "de souche", so pretty much a celt
¿Qué nacionalidades es posible compartir con la española?
No es necesario que renuncien a su nacionalidad quienes fueran naturales de países iberoamericanos, de Andorra, Filipinas, Guinea Ecuatorial o Portugal. Se consideran países iberoamericanos a estos efectos aquéllos en los que el español o el portugués sean una de las lenguas oficiales.
A efectos de adquirir la doble nacionalidad Haití, Jamaica, Trinidad y Tobago y Guyana no se consideran iberoamericanos mientras que Puerto Rico sí se considera iberoamericano.
John Adams
>Breton >Racemix
Nothing surprising
William Roberts
This only talks about acquisition and naturalization but OP already is a Spanish citizen by origin. This doesn't apply to him.
Aiden Campbell
its a bit hard from what i heard you need to marry someone spanish and live in spain for an specific period of time maybe look on the spanish migration site instead of Sup Forums
Jose Wilson
You are automatically entitled to Spanish nationality by virtue of Spanish mom, assuming you were born after 1978 (I checked it)
>Los hijos/as de madre española nacidos/as después del 29 de diciembre de 1978 son también españoles/as de origen a todos los efectos.
But you'd have to renounce French citizenship.
Anyway Residence grants you almost equal rights (except voting in national elections but who cares lel) you get your NIE ID card, social security number, healthcare system card etc.
Brayden White
No, the modern law only goes back one generation. There was a law that granted citizenship to those that were affected by the Spanish civil war but it expired in 2011
Andrew Price
Reee.
Dylan Flores
>But you'd have to renounce French citizenship. Only in the case of acquisition, no? But OP is not acquiring it.
Justin Perez
Any Irish/Italian citizenship? These are easier to get.
Thomas Howard
buy a house dipshit
Jordan Perry
What has being full amerindian got to do with it?
Jonathan Powell
Hell no, ancestors are all spaniards, with some abo ancestry but that has no nationality.
>- En el caso de españoles que hayan nacido en el extranjero y sean españoles por haber nacido de padre o madre español/a también nacido en el extranjero, perderán la nacionalidad española si en el plazo de tres años desde la emancipación o mayoría de edad no declaran su voluntad de conservar la nacionalidad española
As always with Spanish law, it's kinda tricky. My interpretation is that as he never exercised the right to Spanish nationality, and assuming he's over 21 now, he's lost it in origin, therefore he'd need to 'reacquire' it.
But fugg me, who knows...
Asher Collins
I kind of look Spanish/Meditarranean, could I apply?
Ethan Jones
Texas was in Spain's dominion, can I become Spanish
Dominic Barnes
That a person with no spanish blood can get the spanish citizenship by living here for 2 years Only people from Latin America, Philipines and Equatorial Guinee
Isaiah Russell
Pero op no dijo que su madre naciera en el extranjero
Brandon Mitchell
NO, try Mexico, sorry
Samuel Clark
Can I come?
Jack Martin
Actually I'm 18 years old, so I would be in time according to your text. And I just remembered that I once had my Spanish ID, my parents made me do it when I was a kid, but now it has expired. Does that technically mean I once held French-Spanish citizenship at the same time? Which is, according to some people in this thread, impossible even when having the Spanish citizenship de jure?
Levi Roberts
Mi madre nació en Andalucía de padres españoles y de abuelos españoles. Pero yo nací en Francia, de un padre francés y de una madre española (nunca quizo adquirir la nacionalidad francesa).
Dylan Evans
>my parents made me do it when I was a kid, but now it has expired
Coño, pues renuévalo. ¿Aún lo tienes?
Jeremiah Perry
Latin America or Spanish America?
tfw I'm ethnically half Spanish but getting a citizenship is just too hard because my closest Spanish parent is my grandmother and she's already dead
Gavin Price
Pues claro, eres tan ibérico como el chorizo cular
Isaiah Miller
Civil war refugee?
William Rogers
sadly you are included in the term iberoamérica
Kevin Jackson
My mom is from Chile and i have dual citizenship , not problem with that desu
Ryan Baker
>Mi madre nació en Andalucía de padres españoles y de abuelos españoles. Pero yo nací en Francia, de un padre francés y de una madre española (nunca quizo adquirir la nacionalidad francesa). Los paises iberoamericanos con España, puedes tener la doble nacionalidad , Mi madre es de Chile y mi padre Español , técnicamente soy Chileno y Español.
Realmente no se acerca de la politica en Francia
Chase Rodriguez
Creo que mi padre lo tiene guardado por ahí, intentaré renovarlo en agosto, y ya les preguntaré a la alcaldía todo lo de la compatibilidad con la nacionalidad francesa.
Carter Anderson
>Hell no, ancestors are all spaniards are you from New Mexico?
Gavin Sullivan
>ya les preguntaré a la alcaldía todo lo de la compatibilidad con la nacionalidad francesa. where? in Andalucia?
Parker Morales
si eres mestizo puedes conseguir estos al instante desu, pero tienes demostrarlo
Kayden Murphy
tienes que*
Gavin Butler
I'm Cuban, give back Cuba to Spain then I'll go back(tm) Noggies can come to USA
Jose Collins
A dual citizenship rarely hurts, at best it hurts your time and wallet a little.
Gavin Nelson
el cubANO senores
Lucas King
I'll only feel comfortable in Cuba with union with Madrid.
Isaac Ward
Me alone against African Bolshevik horde in Cuba will do no good, Francoist Madrid will save me.
Joseph Perry
>sadly why tho I look Spanish (based on what Spanish people told me) and don't plan on moving to Spain or anything. Having a Spanish passport would just make my life easier when traveling 2bh I even speak Spanish, albeit with a Rioplatense accent
