Since my last two threads failed because they made too much sense and Sup Forums could not find anything to argue against, I am just going to say this as simple as possible.
THE REASON THERE IS """WHITE GENOCIDE""" ISN'T BECAUSE OF MUSLIMS OR OTHER IMMIGRANTS OR JEWS BUT BECAUSE WHITE MEN ARE NOT FUCKING WHITE WOMEN AND MAKING WHITE BABIES
YOUR BIRTHRATES ARE TOO LOW
YOUR MEN ARE TOO WEAK AND CHILDISH TO GET MARRIED AND START A FAMILY
IT IS YOUR FAULT
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Except this is just wrong.
Birthrates are irrelevant if you actually live in a nationalistic, largely isolationist nation.
The only reason birthrates are a problem is because they are COMBINED with mass immigration and multiculturalism.
Those who live in a third world simply reproduce at an absurd, unsustainable level. It isn't even desirable to reproduce that fast, but it isn't much of a problem so long as those populations are CONTAINED to the third world.
Which means the problem is, indeed, immigration.
More of them, even economically, does not mean less of you
It means less of me proportionally...
Which has cultural implications
and economic implications
and political implications
and crime implications
etc etc etc
So get out there and FUCK
This is the biggest lie on Sup Forums right now. Immigration is the sole reason for the death of the white race in the West. The difference between Japan and Germany is that Japan was not intimidated by business interests to open the gates to the third world hoards.
LOW BIRTH RATES ARE NOT A PROBLEM IN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES. CAPITAL DEEPENING WILL ALWAYS TAKE ACCOUNT FOR A DECLINING, BUT BETTER-EDUCATED WORKFORCE. WE DO NOT NEED LOW-SKILLED AND LOW-WAGE WORKERS IN DEVELOPED COUNTRIES.
(Sorry about the caps, but the stupidity on this board regarding this issue is fucking infuriating)
I agree with this, I remember the golden one, ramzpaul etcetc talking about how we shouldn't be blaming our problems on others, but instead take matters into our own hands, and I fully agree with that
>I have been lifting for 8 months every day trying to become the best person I can be so I am not grouped with the sterotypical neo nazi stormfront fag
I'm just a nationalist who believes everyone should be left the fuck alone/be with their own people
So how come japan, a country with very low brith rates and little immigration, is failing?
Having a white child in America today simply means one more white to suffer as a minority during the decline of Western civilization.
The problem, again, isn't birthrates. It's mass immigration and allowing in shitskins with massive birthrates. Those two things will INEVITABLY destroy the nation demographically.
Do you have concrete proof that it happens?
Yeah it's called statistics.... it's been general knowledge for decades that whites are set to become a minority in the USA in a few years. Just google it faggot.
I know that...but I want to see the decline of a nation because of mass immigration
It's not.
Wait a minute... Why does South Asia have such a low welfare rate despite being arguably one of the fastest reproducers in the world?
Hell their IQ isn't even that good.
poo in the loo is revenge because south asia just doesn't fit pol's model for the world.
Tech companies are importing Kerpal's by the millions to replace more expensive whites.
It's ALREADY happening. US, for example, has been falling in the PISA scores in recent decades. Real unemployment is up. Wages have stagnated, largely because of immigrants creating an artificial glut of workers, reducing the power of the average worker to secure a good wage for himself. Crime is up, relative to what it would have been. Look at crime stats by race/ethnic group and you can see that more 3rd worlders in the US = more crime than we would have had otherwise. Crime in general has been falling but that's largely because of smartphones and the internet keeping troublemakers entertained, and it would have fallen EVEN MORE if we hadn't allowed third world immigrants. 3rd world immigrants also consume more services than they pay in tax dollars.
America is already declining in terms of the things that actually MATTER. In terms of things like GDP we're growing, but that measurement doesn't matter--if you're going to go by economic measures, then GDP per capita is what you should be looking at.
The same problems are happening in many other Western countries as well.
It's not as simple as "go fuck more." White people are a lot more cautious and conscientious about bringing children into the world than 3rd worlders. A white couple isn't going to have a huge number of kids unless they KNOW they can take care of them and give them a good future. They're too upstanding to just pop out kids and go on welfare. 3rd worlders in Western countries have no such qualms, and no shame at all about having tons of kids and making the rest of us support them.
Low birth rates are NOT a problem anyway. As the population declined, there'd be a shortage of workers and wages would rise. Meanwhile less demand for houses would mean housing prices would go down. With lowered house prices and higher wages, family formation would be a lot more affordable for whites. The birth rate would recover. Plus automation means we need fewer people anyway.
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Of course there's problems with an aging population. And obviously Japan will need to raise its retirement age to deal with changing age groups, 66 was the proposed plan apparently.
If you're talking about a shrinking economy, this of course may happen if a country is shrinking in terms of population, I'm not sure what your point is.
But let me offer you the alternative, assuming migrants can generally contribute to society (in the case of Germany's migrants this is not the case). To maintain your economy and artificially increase its value by importing low-paid workers we decide to introduced mass migrations, resulting in 20% of a country's population being foreign-born in 30 years, and by the end of the century, natives account for less than 10%, due to birthrate imbalances and further migration.
Housing crises, low wages, cultural destruction, genetic devaluing and all of the other problems Sup Forums describes. Is that worth the price of a few more years retirement or a better place on the largest economies list? And of course, this all assumes the system can survive under the weight of these problems, which in the case of many European countries has become increasingly doubtful.
Immigration is an answer to a problem that was created to make us apathetic as the real value in our societies is destroyed.
Complete bullshit shill!
1. Whites are k selective ( r k selection), thus create higher quality offspring instead of quality. With closed borders thats no problem. Who promotes open borders to import r selective people (quantity breeding)?
The 1960 Immigration changes was a forced effort of a specific group!
Who creates Bullshit Movies, TV programs that promotes sissy behavior?
Who promotes white guilt?
Who creates an atmosphere for whites to constantly feel under attack, thus reducing childbirth because of uncertainty?
Do you need any more facts of external forces that try to decrease white breeding and increase foreign people?
Busted stupid shill!
You're just being dense as fuck. Without immigration there is no marginalization of white in their own country.
>ib4 marginalization isn't genocide
Stop being dense on purpose.
and white men are not fucking white women because of the Jews
Anyone got a better quality version of this?
White genocide is conspiracy concept, but it doesn't invalidate the fact that immigration and mass movement make a large impact, especially when another race births more children more often. We aren't weak or childish, we're just smart and value our childrens life, why bring a child into the world if you can not support them?
>whites gain advancements in medicine
>whites legalize abortion and start aborting more and more babies
>other countries are either too dumb to do proper abortions or have made it illegal
>blacks in the US are too poor to pay for it
>whites became minority
You could see it coming a mile away
So it had nothing to do with media and academic agitation, cultural engineering, and attacking whiteness since Boas?
and who promoted feminism which causes women to hate men, families and children and instead concentrate on shekels? hmm?
it's almost like the more you tax Whites to pay for shitskin invaders kids, the less money they have to pay for their own kids
birthrates wouldn't fucking matter if it wasn't for immigration. look at japan. still very homogeneous and they fuck each other even less than we do.
a conspiracy? did the Australian Whites only immigration policy just change itself?
Top fucking kek whites are such a soft race, very touchy and emotional
did the US Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1965 just pass itself?
who would have thought that being genocided, completely destroyed as a group, was one of our triggers
>posting quotes from a trap
Friendly reminder that Coulter has no children
>muh genocide
Not anyone else's fault you don't have kids
is being infertile a crime now?
and how does attacking hte source of a quote refute the substance of it?
do you even know the fallacies? read the fucking sticky, pleb
Mate, as much as I'd like australia to be a whitey only nation we brought this upon ourselves. We have a bunch of old/young rich blokes who live miles away from the decisions they make choosing what future we have.
Why are you surprirsed that with a bureacracy we're fucked over.
Funnily enough, whites are actually less emotional. This is part of why we've actually got intraracial conflict. Non-whites are more emotional and easily triggered.
RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE
>Not anyone else's fault you don't have kids
can you prove that?
>is being infertile a crime
Should be, makes you worthless unless you're some brilliant bastard, which she obviously isnt
Can you prove that it is?
>we brought this upon ourselves. We have a bunch of old/young rich blokes who live miles away from the decisions they make choosing what future we have.
which is it? the rich blokes(kikes) did it, or we did it to ourselves?
yes, but I asked first
Why would I raise a kid? Kids are expensive and ungrateful assholes. I like to spend my money on me.
It was not changed by a vote of THE PEOPLE. If it had been up to a vote of the people, it would still be in place.
And before you say "But they voted for those politicians" keep in mind that people can only vote for the politicians that are presented to them. Furthermore, it's the same deal in America...Americans were overwhelmingly opposed to the 1965 Immigration Act but our government passed it anyway.
Western governments do not have their people's wishes and best interests in mind. We have to get rid of representative democracy and have direct democracy instead. If people can vote on actual policy they will vote for less or no immigration, or only immigration of similar peoples.
>Kikes
Mate, most jews are ethno-nationalists.
Stop blaming a conspriacy and take off that magical curtain which makes all whtie angels.
Europe is literally one example, it's primarily white. All most all of the people making decisions are whites, there is little to no jews. Labour parties or liberal/humanist parties are all white except for token races.
We've got to kill our own retarded before we start blaming anyone else.
Yes, nobody is stopping you from having kids.
Everybody is provided the same economic opportunities.
There are no laws saying you can't have kids.
Exactly.
we should be able to have as many children as we want without having to worry about being outnumbered
the point is that we are being mongrelized and outnumbered by non-whites. even if we managed to outbreed the non-whites we would still have to see them everywhere and they would still be blended into our population.
>jews have little influence in europe
are you naive or just a shill?
A main proponent of its passing was Emanual Cellar, a Jew who wanted more Jews to be able to immigration.
The American people did not want the 1965 Immigration Act but were deceived into believing it wouldn't affect the nation's demographics.
>OP-tard rationalizes macro pressures by invoking (non-existent) 'muh free will'
Your entire shit argument is debunked entirely in this video, OP:
I don't believe in retarded boogymen. A lot of our problems come from ourselves.
I agree, twas the kikes, and their blackmailed/bought shabbos goyim
>Mate, most jews are ethno-nationalists.
yeah, for israel, whilst preaching dieversity for everyone else
>All most all of the people making decisions are whites, there is little to no jews
cameron is a mischling, his previous opponent milliband was a jewish commie, merkel is a jew, sarkozi was a jew(who advocated forced racial intermarriage)
all the papers are owned by jews, until January, the BBC was run by a jew and had a jew as its creative director
50% of the labor MPS, and 80% of the tories are members of the friends of israel society, which gives them money
they own most of the newspapers, publishing houses, banks and politicians
>We've got to kill our own retarded before we start blaming anyone else.
traitors are traitors whatever their religion or ethnicity
>Everybody is provided the same economic opportunities.
>There are no laws saying you can't have kids.
the immutable law of supply and demand, the law of female empowerment, man hating, family hating and promiscuity and shekels
exactly
Genocide definitions--
>YOUR BIRTHRATES ARE TOO LOW
no they aren't low, they are fine, the other birthrates that are too high, our population can't keep growing forever, there will be no space and no resources and you would have to choose between becoming a slave without life that only lives to work like people in china and japan or die homeless asking gibesdat like africans do
Wouldn't all of that be affecting every man then, regardless of race?
Oh wait
>muh joos
Fucking kek
I use to be a cunt like you, believing in this bullshit then I grew up and smelled the earth. No matter how much you boogyman a ethnicity/religion it won't change anything, the maority of SJWs, Liberals and humanists are rich white people. White people aren't angels, stop looking for things where they aren't and smell the ashes. We've got problems to deal with intraracially.
We are forced to outbreed the already invaders here, and ALSO keep ahead of invading peoples from the third world--IN OUR OWN LANDS--financed at OUR expense--if we want to survive as an ethnic group--- yet, anti-Whites say there is no genocide?
Gimme a break.
Anti-racist is code-word for anti-White.
>THE REASON THERE IS """WHITE GENOCIDE""" ISN'T BECAUSE OF MUSLIMS OR OTHER IMMIGRANTS OR JEWS BUT BECAUSE WHITE MEN ARE NOT FUCKING WHITE WOMEN AND MAKING WHITE BABIES
It has become too dangerous to deal with women.
First we get rid of women's rights THEN we can talk about making babies again.
>Wouldn't all of that be affecting every man then, regardless of race?
why would it affect women of foreign cultures who have not yet to hate men whilst using them as their meal ticket?
do women's opinions have no effect on men?
no, Whites aren't all angels
what are you trying to say? don't blame other races for wanting to invade? blame those that allowed or encouraged the invasion?
>First we get rid of women's rights THEN we can talk about making babies again.
ungrateful bitches
Yes. We wouldn't be in trouble in the first place if we didn't have fuckwitts in charge. This is our problem. We shouldn't be blaming people for taking oppurtunity. If we were isolationist and protectionist you wouldn't have a refugee crisis, they wouldn't cross borders to get into land they are barred from. Our problems are internal.
I would like to know (((who))) wrote the pro immigration poem "The new colossus" that was ADDED to lady Liberty 17 years LATER and what (((group))) paid and lobbied for it!
"Emma Lazarus was a native New Yorker, the daughter of a wealthy Jewish family with roots going back several generations in New York City."
"...The next morning the New York Times reported that a crowd which included J. P. Morgan, the famous banker, heard a reading of the poem “The New Colossus” by Emma Lazarus..."
4 white kids here. You sure op?
yes, jewish fuckwits, evil ones, who have brainwashed and indoctrinated large numbers of our people
do you blame a man who has been poisoned, or the poisoner?
did all this anti-White immigration nonsense just happen simultaneously in dozens of Whtie countries by accident?
It is pointless to even aruge with the schizophrenic.
jews aren't schizophrenic, you moran, well most of them
>Moran
I've met plenty of people who boogyman jews, left and right.
It is getting pretty ridiculous now, they're all pretty much the same cunts who believe in stuff spewed from spirit science. It's okay when you're fifteen but if you are an adult and still spout this shit, well..
>It is getting pretty ridiculous now,
Not an argument! How about you prove these people wrong! This is /pol not brain dead reddit newfag
ah, your a newfag, I see
don't worry, stick around, you will learn our ways
You can't prove anything to an insane individual, I could tell some fella in a sanitorium that unicorns don't exist and he'll stand there all shivering and shaking trying to prove me wrong with bullshit. Steins and x or y names which look jewish tend to just be germans or the latter, a lot of germans immigrated to united states, therefore you get tons of steiners and shit like that.
It ain't some global conspiracy, what would jews have to gain from detrimenting their own allies on this planet? Israel only exists because of the west and could be easily over-run if we stopped giving a fuck.
I'm not a newfag, I've been here before zimmy and boston bombings, I'm just not a retarded nazi or jew conspiratist anymore, I grew out of that shit. I became an adult and realized you can't scream and point all your problems at other people.
You're not wrong but there are causes foe this phenomenon.
This has not been an issue for white people before. Why has it become an issue in the last 50 years?
WhiteGenocide has NOTHING to do with population growth and declines, or birth rates.
Europe lost 40% of their population due to Black death in the 1300s. The leaders, Royalty, at that time, did not invite the entire third world into Europe at that time to take it over.
Anti-Whites will always find a way to justify #WhiteGenocide.
Anti-Whites should remember how fat the political climate change in Europe in the mid 1940s. Those who said 'I was following orders" got a rope around their neck at Nuremberg.
Julius Streicher was hung at Nuremberg for merely being the owner of a newspaper.
>I became an adult
2/10
It was actually a problem back then, if not way back to the days russians got their nickname as slaves. There's always been collaspe and conquer. But if we're talking about caucasians as of today it's more then likely a result of pure ideology, the state is now the pure identity and freedom is evil. What huxley and the other bloke who went to spain said was literal preaching.
Sup Forums's going to shout and scream and call me a lefty faggot, but I'd bet you if we weren't depending on states or government authority we'd more then definitely have severed nigger heads in our dumpster bins. We're all comfortable. I can tell you once comfort isn't a concern anymore whites will return to what they've being doing for millenia.
>Why aren't you arguing!
>Goes ahead and doesn't even argue what I've said, just posts stupid rhetoric and isn't able to dismiss my claims
>Goes ahead and doesn't even argue what I've said, just posts stupid rhetoric and isn't able to dismiss my claims
oh, claiming your an adult is an argument is it now?
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You haven't been able to dismiss my claims that the problem results in white people, you've done nothing to argue against my point, you've only put across macros and cried evil jews. I'm not some random emotional or butthurt person, I'm not from tumblr and I can bet you more then a hundred dollars I've probably got less care for what happens to anyone then you.
White genocide doesn't exist, what does exist is a group of people holding authority of more then twenty million people with differing ideals and and principles who more then likely live in gated communities. They are the problem.
>which is it? the rich blokes(kikes) did it, or we did it to ourselves?
Did you ever vote for your homeland to be invaded and colonized by the third world? NO !!!
Political figure will however, send a gestapo squad to your home if they don't like your commentary about your new neighbours.
Political figures also created a climate that makes it hard to speak up.
Facebook and Youtube censors negative commentary about any ethnic group--as long as they are not White---because that would destroy the Holocaust industry.
>MUH BIRTHRATES!
Fucking r-selected subhuman.
Anti-racist is code-word for anti-White.
#WhiteGenocide
Nah faggot low birthrate is a sign of evolving. The problem is that whites live among animals. Whites are too evolved so mother nature must take them down until the mud races are cleansed.
Actually it's the women's fault. Just saiyan.
It's a little of both.
Whites aren't making enough replacement rate babies
And everyone else is making too many, and making sure they come to white countries.
All thus shows is how powerful whites are that they have to give them a penalty to play fair.
>I'm not some random emotional or butthurt person
AIDS
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>I've probably got less care for what happens to anyone then you.
you are proud of that? seems a bit curmudgeonly
>White genocide doesn't exist
and yet we are dying out
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Ugh its so sad. I hate being randomized. I'm disliked by blacks for being "lightskinned" and disliked by whites for being "on-site" even though I side with whites on most issues and am not a dindu degenerate.
Is there truly no future for me as a good, working and productive racemixed person in society?
FUCKING THIS
I know people who wants have more children and they cannot sustain other one, indeed, they barely can sustain their only children.
Meanwhile i see every day fucking shitskins pushing cars with 1-2 children.
>Racemixed not randomized*
And
>Non-white not on site*
Overpopulation is bad regardless of color. We need less brown people, not more white people.
That's because niggers don't care about supporting their children, they make the state support them for having the wretched goddamn things.
>what would jews have to gain from detrimenting their own allies on this planet?
Its not about destroying the allies shill, its about transforming the society of the allies to make them more easy to manipulate. Divide et impera -> minority societies. If you then control the money (FED) and the (social-) media, you control who will get elected.
>good
>working
>productive
>racemixed
>terrible spelling grammar and thought process
No. And that's the way it should be.
>terrible grammar
No, that's autocorrect Fucking it up not me
>muh birthrate
You shill we have more than enough people if only the wages were higher and women not forced to work beside her man to have a decent living they could have babies again
Higher wages would mean more money for old peoples pension, would mean we don't have a "demographic gap", all we have is not enough money for old people so fug off
No, you're wrong. Women ruined everything. Stop blaming men because you are too cowardly to call out women on the Internet, burger muncher.
No fuck that, we don't want too many fucking people around fucking shit up. Go to your shithole countries and starve yourselves there. Worthless overbreeding trash.