Why is Sup Forums literally the WORST platform for discussing music on the entire internet...

Why is Sup Forums literally the WORST platform for discussing music on the entire internet? You guys don't care about music. You care about memes. Nothing outside of the most popular top 40 trash gets more than a few replies. Why is Sup Forums such shit? I feel like everybody on this board is under 18.

i unironically talk about music on some equipment forum. bunch of old guys. but they know their shit

name a board that cares about their topic matetial.

Any forum is better than this shithole. I've literally had better music discussions on fucking Sup Forums of all places. We are literally the worst board on Sup Forums at discussing our designated topic.

/vr/ is infinitely better at discussing retro games than Sup Forums is at discussing music. Their mods are fast as shit too. Modern gaming threads get deleted almost immediately. There are no memes on /vr/ either. They'll tell you to fuck off to Sup Forums if you want to shitpost.

Some obscure autist containment board like /n/ or /po/.

Sup Forums is better than us

the classical general is usually not awful, when it exists

sincerely doubt you could keep up in the chart or daily threads when even only the most pleb posters are online

lol
if you think Sup Forums is bad, try any other popular website, I have and keep coming back to Sup Forums
/vr/ is a small userbase, and has mods, there you have why Sup Forums isn't great, comparitively large base, and close to zero moderation
what are the alternatives? rym? electrical engineering? reddit?

Sup Forums
they actually embraced liking pop culture shit .
Sup Forums wants to pretend they arent normies. but anything non p4k core is "obscure" trash

Mate, we're the worst board. It's pathetic how bad we are. The only way anybody could possibly think Sup Forums is acceptable is if they literally only browse here, and no other boards. They're all better than us.

Sup Forums has always been shit

>reddit
I think its time we stop pretending we're better than them. We're not. We're literally Sup Forums with some album covers.

this board is obsessed with anthony fantano. why would anyone think its a quality place for music discussion?

>literally the WORST platform for discussing music on the entire internet
We're better than /r/music and that's a fucking fact.

/tg/ is the most dedicated board to their topic by far.
Also all the anime boards are better at talking about their subject matter than Sup Forums is now. P4k, Fantano, and poptimism completely killed this board, the generals have unironically become the best part about Sup Forums and that should be telling of how far this board has fallen.

No, its not. Stop acting high and mighty because you post on Sup Forums instead of reddit. I love my anonymity, but you can't deny the correlation between anonymity and shitposting. Being forced make an account on reddit also forces people to think before they post.

Sup Forums is not only the worst board on Sup Forums, but it might actually be the single worst discussion forum on the entire internet. In addition to being a cesspool of spam, shilling, pedophilia, race bating and other assorted degeneracy it also manages to collectively have even worse taste than the the average pleb.

this is a great album, I listened to it earlier

It has always been shit, but it didn't used to be this shit. This is the worst it's ever been.

Reviewers, black people, pop music, underage kids, and lack of moderation have killed this board.

Sup Forums is definitely better than reddit, at least in terms of layout. If you try to start a thread on reddit, because the catalog is shitty, there's a 90% chance it gets 0 replies and the point system is fucking retarded.
On older messageboard style sites you have autistic powerusers shitting up every thread (which are only bumped/replied to once a week max) who never get banned for their shitposting because they're friends with the admins.
I've seen people reminisce about banned users from YEARS ago on a fucking keyboard forum, and the attention seeking just gets worse with other boards.
Tripfags on Sup Forums are fucking ascetic in comparison.

>not only the worst board on Sup Forums, but it might actually be the single worst discussion forum on the entire internet
>cesspool of spam, shilling, pedophilia, race bating and other assorted degeneracy
How is that any different from this board? We don't have pedophilia, but we have EVEN MORE shilling, spamming, and race baiting.

/ck/ is great, but that's because it takes an actual talent an interest in a hobbie and it's not filled with underage 15 year olds.

I fucking hate reddit's format, and that's why I don't post on reddit, but they have better discussions. I prefer the *chan style boards, but that's probably our only advantage over them.

Sup Forums is actually funny tho.

This by far, as much of a bad rep as Sup Forums gets there's a genuine love for what the topic of the board that is absent from Sup Forums. Plenty of threads get well over 100 replies where people actually things they enjoyed in a show or movie or whatever, plus Sup Forums has actually fully embraced the fact that it's become a meme factory. /mu is in this awkward stage where the board feels like it's some elite bastion of musical discussion when the same tired popular artists get wanked to death over and over. We've pretty much gotten to the point where saying "It's lit senpai" is an acceptable way of describing why you like an album, niggerposting was the final death knell in the coffin for Sup Forums, no wonder Sup Forums crosses over so much, at this point they're actually trying to save the board from turning into an anonymous echo chamber for ghetto trash and normalfaggotry.

For how shit the board is, they do know how to make better memes than us.

I would LITERALLY rather go to a high school and talk to the fucking normie 15 year old kids about music than I would try to discuss music here, because I'm going to get the exact same discussions and the same shit opinions, without the memes and spam. You guys have the musical taste of edgy high schoolers, but you're somehow even more cancerous because you're anonymous and you're on the internet.

>no wonder Sup Forums crosses over so much, at this point they're actually trying to save the board from turning into an anonymous echo chamber for ghetto trash and normalfaggotry
its so fuckiing sad but it is true

/ck/ is either actual talk about cooking, shitposting about Reviewbrah/Steve/Chef John, or McChickenposting.

Somebody literally told me that I have no culture because I hadn't heard some Justin Beiber song. I made a comment that I don't listen to the radio, and they said something like "What's it like having no cultural awareness?" or something equally retarded. We've reached that point. That's where we are now. Sup Forums is discussing Justin fucking Beiber.

>/ck/ - Fast Food & Jack Webms

Tbh the anti hip hop posts are way more annoying than the hip hop posts could ever hope to be

>OH NO BLACK PEOPLE ARE RUINING OUR SAFE SPACE

Just stop. When Yeezus was released in 2013, they literally flooded the entire catalog with that stupid album cover. I counted 36 threads at the time. They did the same thing with To Pimp A Butterfly. Every week, there's a post with some generic cookie-cutter black guy with colored dreads and a caption like "Lil ____ is the best in the game right now. Prove me wrong." and a link to somebody's Soundcloud page.

What do you talk like an idiot? Niggerposting? Are you fucking serious?

>Tbh the anti hip hop posts are way more annoying than the hip hop posts could ever hope to be
Yeah and it's also a big indicator that the average age here is like 14.

The hip-hop posters are literally teenagers. This has been proven time and time again. They're the youngest posters on the board.

Read Fantano's comment section. Underage kids CONSTANTLY come here from his videos because he reviews a disproportionate amount of rap, and constantly references this board in his videos.

I always lol when I see this meme because anti SJWs literally are just as cancerous if not more so, and it's funny as fuck that they can't see it. Putting it in an ironic meme doesn't make that any less true

ah yes I forgot how mature the average hip hop head was

Spamming is one of their favorite activities. Every time a new flavor-of-the-month rap album comes out, there are 20+ "ITS LIT, GOAT, AOTY, THOUGHTS ON THIS?" threads, versus any other genre where they have one thread, or in some cases like metal, post it in a general and don't even make a new thread.

I literally reported some rapfag for admitting that he was 16 and he got banned for 30 days. Why not for two years? What does banning him for 30 days do?

I wonder how many people stopped browsing there after this was posted

I hope you hip-hop fans know that you're literally discussing music with kids.

They probably came here desu

yea that's pretty true

Music discussion everywhere fucking sucks. The only barrier to entry for music is having a pulse and working ears basically. Whatever venue you prefer for music discussion is just as shit as Sup Forums is

Fuck off. This place doesn't even talk about music most of the time. Its mostly memes.

most people ,either come here or Sup Forums after Sup Forums because there """"hobbie""" that don't require any effort or skill especially for an underage kid who doesn't even have a job yet.

The mods here are lazy and they're partial to hip-hop. That's a fact. They don't delete spam threads, they don't ban underage posters, and they delete and prune negative threads/posts about hip-hop. Some rapfag got pissed off and started a cuck porn thread, and it lasted for 3 hours. I've been banned for complaining about them not doing their job. They let the rule-violating post stay up, and they banned me for complaining about it.

There's a waifuthread up now on fucking Sup Forums. Worst part, there aren't many better places.

That sucks. I'm sorry, user.

I got banned a whole week for posting brappt to someone who was shitposting in an actual successful dark thread for once. I fucking hate the mods here.

you fucks have a hard time in there as it is. anything that isn't rap or Sup Forumscore that is

I have an idea. It'll take a lot of man-power but we can probably pull it off. We need to bring back full-force militant elitism. When an off-topic, or thinly veiled race-bait or waifu thread is posted, we need to beat it down immediately. I have a folder containing individual screenshots of each global rule, like pic related. We need to respond like this, without hesitation.
>sage when you post
>don't give their shitty thread any bumps
>report it
>post "This is a violation of Global Rule X" with a picture of the rule, and a link to the report node so that other anons can report it to
>AVOID stating that you've reported it, or stating that you've saged
>don't be an idiot and get yourself banned in the process
>don't interject any opinions
>keep it matter-of-fact
If we respond to every rule-breaking thread like this, and we don't show any mercy, the board will slowly become cleaner and stricter.

I actually like this.

I agree with this, don't think it will help but its worth a try

The way I've always seen it is that Sup Forums isn't good for discussion necessarily, but for discovering. Once you learn what are the memes, you can just mentally filter them out and find really cool albums from diverse tastes all across the community. That's why I love Sup Forums, and I hope it and all of you fuckers with the weirdest taste in music never change.

this post (almost verbatim) pops up every few months. nothing ever changes.

you children scream and whine for more moderation and then recoil in horror when it arrives.

public shaming of plebs is the only thing that will save you, and you all refuse.

I'm going to dump my global rule screenshots for you guys to use. I'm only going to post the relevant ones.

>for porn/gore spam

point taken.

>for spam
This includes posting the same fucking rap album 30 times.

>for shilling your own music outside of Bandcamp/Soundcloud threads

>for race-baiting, off-topic replies like BRRRRAP, and dubs posting
>"Why are white people so bad at music?"
>"Why do blacks make better music?"
>white "people" lmao

>for underage posters

>for everything else
This includes posting 50 threads about the same fucking album in one day.

With these tools, we can attempt to save this board.

Here's an example:

I'm going to start a daily meta containment thread, where we can discuss ways to clean up this board. Within that thread, we will be able to post links to rule-violating posts and attack and report them in a clean and precise fashion. If the mods won't help us take this board back, we'll do it ourselves.

I'm down with this.

Sooooo Guardians Of Sup Forums General? This could be fun.

Look forward to the first thread tomorrow morning.

There isn't any discussion on reddit whatsoever. Any opinion that deviates from the general hivemind (specifics vary from subreddit to subreddit) will inevitably get downvoted.

Holy fuck, trips confirm this is a worthy endeavor.

I hope everyone here realizes that this is a terrible idea, that meta threads are never good and are just people routinely bitching for no reason, that mods don't care about their shit opinions, and that allowing one meta thread per board was probably the worst idea hiro ever had.
You fuckers think that Sup Forums is shit, well why don't you actually post quality content? This thread wastes space, and will be populated by the same people all the time and do nothing but bitch to deaf ears.

It will work if we do it hard enough.

>triple trips
Let's do this shit, boys.

/x/
/vp/
/k/
Sup Forums

Yeah Sup Forums is the fucking worst. At least every once in a while people would actually discuss music here. Sup Forums is nothing but shitposting.

>systematically attacking shitposts and rule violations won't improve the quality of the board

Sup Forums is just as bad too
The three worst are definitely Sup Forums Sup Forums Sup Forums

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Fully support

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Complaining in meta threads is just annoying and unhelpful.
What do you exactly want to see out of Sup Forums? Whatever it is, make threads about that.

Don't you think they'll go away if we make this board hostile enough towards them?

Not if we literally prevent their terrible discussion

Yes and other forums/boards are full of slightly older retards who act just as stupid.
That's my point you fucking idiot.

I think you will not be able to make the board hostile towards them. Have you seen the moderation on Sup Forums? Rule 3 is basically selectively enforced when the mod feels like it, not when it's genuinely broken.
Let's look at the top 10 threads, sorted by reply count
>Kpop gen
>Kpop gen
>/daily/
>a genuine discussion of a new album
>dumb waifu thread
>Sup Forums makes an album
>cringe thread
>birthday thread, which imo is at very least encouraging people to listen to new music
>sharethread
>chartthread
all of these threads aren't breaking any rules in particular, other than maybe the waifu thread for being shitposting, and the sharethread for being in a grey area under US law. I agree that some of these threads are bad. What are you going to do about it? They aren't really reportable.

You under estimate the power of meme magic

This. Did you forget that Sup Forums memed a guy into office?

All you're doing is convincing me that this thread. in spite of the efforts of one guy who really does seem to care about the board, cares more about memes and ebic triple gets than real improvement.

It was a joke, relax

We can do this, but it'll take all of our efforts. It's already spreading. I'm already seeing people reporting and posting the rules in shill threads and shitposts threads.

With our powers combined and a little meme magic

WE DID IT, LADS!

That thinly veiled Bandcamp shill thread just got deleted! This is our first victory.

Now for this shit:

>comes on music message board
>instead of posting about music, posts this
You are the problem

ha ha ha