Graduating from Sup Forums

user I'm curious, how often do you see threads that are asking a question that you have the answer to, or clearly cucked/bluepill that you could redpill, but you you just don't feel like typing and putting in the work anymore?

Sup Forums's limitation is that it provides no feedback for one's success in waking up the sleepers. One post could uncuck 300 people you never meet, and you'll never know. Over time the most based, knowledgeable trolls simply stop bothering to reply because the effort is ultimately unrewarding.

I never get anything out of Sup Forums posts anymore. I literally only put in. I've reached the bottom of the rabbit hole (some time ago really) and it's not worth my time to redpill most people here as they are simply incapable of resisting their degenerate brainwashing and can't accept the truth of the world anyway.

How many anons have this problem?

When is it time to quit Sup Forums because I'm tired of red-pilling 19 year olds?

Should I just quit the boards?

>Sup Forums
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yes, you need to quit

8ch is 1000000x better than this shithole tbf

Nice shitposting.

just quit the entire internet

but from the looks of your post, you posted from a smartphone with autocorrect (Sup Forums -> Sup Forums)

anyway I've never been here to "pill" new people, only keep up with current happenings

but if you can take the final step and just eliminate the internet from your life it's probably better

The only real way to redpill people is in real life, in your social circle and family

that's it, anything else is a fool's game, and ultimately the internet itself is degenerate by nature because it removes the sense of a small manageable community

Why do you think so many of us just shitpost? Not everyone can be a racist gay bodybuilder.

Autismchan is the same as here but they take themselves too seriously and ban you for making jokes (or having opinions) the mods don't like

Use 8ch Sup Forums or browse reddit. Nobody is ever completely right. Sup Forums pol has no moderation which means 10 cuck threads and the same shill threads up all the time.

Fair assessment. But you do spend precious time typing at faceless people as per this thread. Soon it will be thrown in the dump and your time is gone and you have absolutely no way of knowing what I did with it.

I could be a pizza-faced baboon in my mom's basement shitting in a trashcan.

Ultimately I agree with what you say, only I'm a little mystified by the fact that you are still spending time on threads like this.

It's a paradox.

the sad truth is that anonymity is degenerate.

it's actually worse than a place like reddit or even facebook in theory, it's essentially Tinder for conversation and literally erodes social skills because people aren't even meant to talk to this many strangers in a time.

The answer to the question is that it's because it's literally addictive. Sup Forums is literally as addictive as porn, I'd say possibly even more because there's no climax . And if you really think about it Sup Forums and the "old internet culture" is extremely guilty in degenerating the youth , probably even more so than places like Tumblr.

If there was no such thing as anonymity on the internet at all, the modern problems Sup Forums complains about would barely exist

but I'm here because I'm a literal autistic person who has never had good social skills and was even worse before I used Sup Forums or the internet much at all.

Well said. I've made it a point to cut poisons out of my life so I'll have to quit Sup Forums cold turkey. Even one brief glance at it and it grips me with its awful gaze.

I'm building a company designed to help people have meaningful political discourse in person. I only ever came here to mine some memes to help with ideas. At this point the diamonds are too rare and the degenerate impact is too great.

Thank you, senpai.

are you the guy who always posts anti trade jobs threads telling people that only high power business/political jobs are worth it for whites?

>where's muh upboats

eat a dick faggot

there's not much difference between (you)s and upboats

i've been on Sup Forums since late 2004/early 2005.

i come to Sup Forums because it's the only place i've found on the ENTIRE internet that still holds the old internet atmosphere.

it's seriously weird. i feel alone.

i'm 25 now. 'ama'

No. I don't start threads really other than this one. I do post in them though.

I'm 31. The problem for me is I see teens posting their ages and all kinds of wrongheaded bullshit and I realize these kids need a mentor. It takes more than a meme to get a kid educated and thinking right.

user was right about user: it's degenerate. There's no doubt about it.

honestly I hate to say this but the "old" internet is still shit compared to real life. Yes the new internet is even worse but that doesn't change the fact that the old internet wasn't a good thing for society

in fairness, I became redpilled way more because of the internet than because of friends. I only discovered I had friends with similar views after the fact

>you's

that's a reply, not cock affirmation

>tfw you will never experience the pre-facebook internet again

part of me almost wants to see Hillary win just to deanonymize the internet. At worst Sup Forums types like me will be forced to get off their ass and either get out in reality, or work on their own underground network

18 year old here.

What's your best piece of advice for the youngins?

>caring about you's

This is how you spot reddit

that's the problem with the internet.

only on the internet can someone growing up in a bluepilled family/community learn the truth about real life but then they're trapped in the internet and subdued

it is a DARPA project after all and it's doing exactly what our controllers want. That's why they never want to shut it down. It keeps the masses subdued even if they know the truth

I disagree, the old internet was actually pretty cool, there was no need to compare it to real life.

You think you have it all figured out, but you don't. If an user tells you to read more about a certain subject, it's because he's been through that debate too many times before and wants to help you but can't be bothered.

Basically, don't come to learn from Sup Forums. Learn from books

>a good thing for society

it's not supposed to be a good thing for society, it's not really "supposed to be" anything for that matter. Sup Forums and many other internet communities used to be small and that made them feel and function more like a community as opposed to a gigantic mass of indifferent individuals. That's really all there is to it. Size matters.

True. I was pretty young during the early 2000's (I'm 23 now) though I remember the pre-smartphone and pre-kikebook days. The old internet might have been shit but people KNEW it was shit and didn't treat it like life

i wish there was a place like pol minus the weebfaggotry and NatSoc memes

I agree. Goodbye Sup Forums. I really don't want to wake up years from now wondering how my life would have been different if I had only done something productive with my time instead of shitposting online.

>needing gratification on an user image board in order to boost self esteme

It's because you're probably a fucking loser behind that keyboard. You shouldn't be here in the first place if that's the case.

I know the feeling

I don't even know what you are
A weird piece of edgy special snowflake shit kys

>quitting 4chinz

> implying you didnt want this (You)

This is very good advice.

Two gems from this thread: the degeneracy of user (should have been obvious in hindsight) and this. Read books. Memes are incomplete. I could type a list but really if you fervently desire truth no matter where it leads you, then you'll get there.

There's nothing wrong with the occasional shitpost though. Sup Forums definitely made me more confident in expressing my opinions, and in general

>Should I just quit the boards?
where else can you go on the internet and have freedom of speech?

True. Will probably just allot 30 minutes in the evening to shitposting my heart out.

Y'all didn't think you could get rid of me that easily, right?

I need feedback

>>>/reddit/
>>>/tumblr/
>>>/kikebook/

congratulations on not understanding the culture here, like at all

>I really don't want to wake up years from now wondering how my life would have been different if I had only done something productive with my time instead of shitposting online.

that feel.

This is why I reduced Sup Forums shitposting 99% after almost 11 years here. It was fun and I cherish the moments but I wish I had spent it digging through books and acquiring skills. I suggest everyone else to do the same.

>I don't really shitpost anymore

And yet here you are, cuck.

Not saying I need it, saying its a basic human need fundamental to healthy communication.1

it all starts with education, and beyond that a will to learn.

i was lucky enough to attend ELITE US university and, even then, people do not have the ability to think for themselves anymore.

31, damn i thought i was old and having a mid-life crisis :^) but much love user

i agree, the internet was a crutch to escape from real life things. as i said, i started browsing Sup Forums in 2004, and when i was 14.

all i use it for is as a tool in 2016. a tool for downloading media for free, or getting news from 20 sources so i can form my own opinion on something.

the old internet culture at least had a 'culture.' it was self-deprecating, and nerdy, and promoted learning or discovery.

nowadays, internet crosses over to real life too often. instead of discovery, it is about conformity

plus what is up with 'MEME' being a normie word nowadays?

facebook's concept of making online = real life and mobile internet browsing killed it. :(

i actually went on my bi-monthly facebook stalk tonight because i was feeling like shit.

now that i'm a few years out of university, it's even more depressing to see. No one I know is doing anything cool, yet still broadcasting their lives over that piece of shit. I'm talking about Harvard grads, NYC 20-somethings, Stanford silicon valley types. All the same bullshit.

they all lack any sense of self-awareness. i swear it's some bizarro world.

i want to go back to the berenstein universe.

Post for yourself, faggot. Codifying your views into a cogent, logical, persuasive structure is for your own benefit. You don't know and can't know your audience, so stop worrying about it. Shills aren't interested, shitposters won't read, etc. If you don't just enjoy participating, it's not worth it.

>browse reddit

That's actually true though. This isn't true for the underage kids who just spam memes and twitter-tier posts here but Sup Forums has actually improved my writing skills. It's made it effortless to write large amounts quickly, which is something I used to struggle with in school.

> Should I just quit the boards?
I was going to type a well thought out response, but I'll just stick with "Yes". If you need a pat on the back every time you 'redpill' someone, then yes, you probably should just go.

>Calls OP faggot
>Tells OP to be cogent, logical, persuasive

Sup Forums in a nutshell

Don't listen to this user, 8ch is absolutely terrible. From my experience it's all just underage and newfags roleplaying what they imagine Sup Forums was like in 2006.

>Taking a kyrgyz yurt-building forum this seriously

Not to mention the random 4-week bans. At least autismchan accepts more proxies though, so you can make threads insulting the shitty mods

you might want to try lunaticoutpost or other similar conspiracy forums, that's where I used to be before Sup Forums. They have an older user base, and user is allowed but ID's are static across the whole board per IP

mobile browsing + facebook = fucking ruin

All it would take to make things great again would be just requiring any modicum of effort to participate. Literally anything. It would destroy click bait revenue overnight.

Even when those people don't even participate in whatever forum you use, just their presence online is like someone dumped trash in the river and some of its going to wind up downstream.

Internet in the 90s was like todays darknet. Slow as fuck and glorious.

>One post could uncuck 300 people you never meet, and you'll never know.
Then you are not as red-pilled as you think you are, user.

But where is it? What happens if you have to click 'retry for a live version' only to be disappointed?

but today's darknet is almost entirely CP and drugs

...... yeah.

>99%

if you notice, most media websites now don't even have comment sections

it was weird to see that transition. web 1.0 was all about being able to write your opinion on a site and create active discussion. then web 2.0 hit and we social was forced down everyone's throat.

'brands' came in and monetized.

internet users are now CONSUMERS

that is it.

normie, gtfo

That's what's good about Sup Forums and similar alternative media. We actually produce content instead of reposting someone else's content

Sup Forums's dying.

It's been memed to death as it's userbase is slowly dying off every week.
I'll be glad to see this shithole go the way of the 7chan with 8chu in its wake.
Fuck all of you faggots. You will never be loved.

Are you saying communication should not involve either feedback or identity between individuals? Literally not sure what you are arguing, but I am curious.

Funny you shills say this shit. This entire board is nothing but jokes/trolls/ and idiots asking each other questions and no one getting answers. First time ive been back here in months and ive been through multiple threads so far and have yet to see a post longer then a coulpe sentences, a paragraph at most. There is no substance, no content, no contributors left here. And the quality of the board is so bad I was forced to leave a couple months after the exodus. I didnt want to leave but it was obvious there was nothing left here but shills and threads about cucks and instagram whores.

Ive never been banned from betterchan. But I dont shit up the board by spamming threads I dont like, constantly post memes and reaction images for attention or so my post stands out more, I dont post unless questions no yet answered or something valuable to contribute, I dont start multiple threads on subjects that already have one.

Yeah the site lacks a lot of what yall have here. But what you have here is what we were sick of, its why we left. Yeah this board might be fast, but how many of those posts have any substance? probably less then 5% thats why we cut out the other 95% and make sure they stay gone.

I left Sup Forums for autismchan with the cuckening, stayed there and watched it rapidly deteriorate, and then came back here because I had issues with the mods (specifically with their tolerance of constant neopagan shilling threads while banning any Christians who fought back, getting banned for jokes didn't bother me too much since I came to use proxies most of the time to avoid random bans anyway). I refuse to effortpost for autismchan anymore, so for all Sup Forums's faults at least I haven't been banned for more than a day since I came back.

Protip: A significant portion of Sup Forums consist of oldfags who entered the real world, stopped dicking around as much online, realized they oughta know how shit works now that they're in the working world and one day thought "oh hey Sup Forums has a politics section may as well check it out."

You never really 'leave.' You go through stages and, yes, eventually it does start to feel like the same old same old but some sort of topic will make you curious, and you'll wonder what Sup Forums's take on it is.

Hell if this place still exists when I'm an old fuck on my death bed, I might go on here, make a post to which someone will call me a faggot and tell me to kill myself, but at that point it won't matter, since that would be my last day alive anyway.

In the meantime, here's to another decade of shitposting.

bump, hang on a bit

This is trufax. I found Sup Forums in 2007 and it wasn't until /new/ became Sup Forums that I realized there was more to Sup Forums than le ebin trollan maymays. Now I only exclusively deal with Sup Forums, /k/, /diy/, and /biz/.

I wrote the below rushed on notepad as I did not want the thread to die, sorry for grammar mistakes. Or if something is not clear.
Please discuss:

Arguing with people directly in irl or even on the internet is useless

To have a good discussion, you need some critical thinking.
Critical thinking is a skill.
It's takes effort to train it
Most people don't
Then Discussions are limited.

If you think about it, good books are just scientifical articles paraphrased to be more easily digested by the general public.

Now, most people don't read, and also they don't train their critical thinking.
So it's useless to argue with people on the internet.( or even in real life as it's unpolite to have serious discussions about anything, you basically get tagged as 'that guy')

Forums attract a certain demographic.
People that are more likely to think x about y frequent H forum
People on the other side of the bridge frequent J forum.

So now we have people that don't read, don't think critically for most of the time, engaging in arguments with people that hold about the same pov as them or slightly different.

But let's say you, as an expert decide to adventure yourself in one forum (most real experts don't, and if they do they are so statiscally rare that it makes too time consuming to spot them, and 'stalk' their posts)
Now as an expert, for him to learn something or exposing a 'refined' discussion he needs another expert.
But experts like said above are rare, so it is likely that you will find people that for the points above are not prepared to have a productive discussion with this expert.(misinterpreting what was said (sometimes on purpose) refusing to accept being wrong, insufficient knowledge etc)
So experts about something are simply rare or non existent on the internet.
1 out of 2

If you really want to learn, then you have to ultimately seek the most refined truth that you can, which leads to all the bs of knowing that you know nothing and basically quitting discussions on the internet (or in irl in most instances) as you cannot gain nothing from them.

So if you want to get refined truths
and you can't get 'refined truths' from direct discussions(on the internet or irl), You should abstain in participating in them.

In order to really learn about something you have to seek knowledge in your own.
You do that by refining your criticial thinking skills, reading good books and journals.(Not news as they are selling you something.)

2 out 2

Please discuss

Hopeless to even respond to the guy

I disagree with your premise that meaningful debate/discussion is impolite. What's impolite is wasting people's time with meaningless drivel.

It's a cultural thing, and healthy cultures debate openly.

that's why I've given up this kind of thing and realized I'm a stupid pleb and shouldn't even bother learning about politics or anything at all really beyond what I need for my job.

I'm better off ignorant really, and like most people here I'd be happier as an illiterate peasant working the fields.

But yeah, OP, Sup Forums is a waste and a mess. You'd be better off joining a dragon boat team and having political discussions in real life.

>I've been using this website for 4 months, but nobody pays attention to me and they don't even conform to my arbitrary standards of validity when they do!
>Is my opinion objectively fact when I say that I should leave this website?
>Don't even try to stop me, by the way. Really. I don't want your attention at all.

well by "anything at all" I mean ideological stuff, rather than just skills I can apply to real life practically.

What the fuck are you even talking about when you say, "redpill"?

tl;dr

learn 2 read books

What are your politics, OP?

Most people are not interested in them.
If they insist and you express your views, it turns in a monologue and you are 'that guy'.

That's why most successful social people, in my opinion, are likeable.
They don't discuss, they don't prove you wrong, they don't contradict.People like them because of this, they are fun to be around.

The truth: God's sense of irony is soul crushing.

no,
you are better off not discussing it, people you discuss won't maximize your knowledge and you will not maximize theirs. Rarely that happens..

Learn to think critically.
Then you will get why socrates said you don't know nothing.
Now get your stuff that you don't know nothing about from good sources ( scientific community, people that are good at they do)
Formula 1 driver= michael schumacher
Basketball = hotshot nigger of the season
Finance= buffett

but how do you know these people are actually experts and not just liars/shills?

How do you know the real experts aren't suppressed and passed off as idiots or nutjobs?

You don't, so if they are lying then you need to figure out how the lie is so effective too.

By limiting my conclusions by what I can see and measure.

My politics? Traditional Catholic in the vein of SSPX. Monarchy is ideal. Jews control most of Westeros and certainly all banking, monetary policy, most media, publishing, big pharma/medicine, education, etc. etc. You know. The truth.

So in all the scientific journals you've read, you've actually repeated all the experiments and gotten the same results?

Like I said, this is only true in degenerate cultures.

>When is it time to quit Sup Forums because I'm tired of red-pilling 19 year olds?

If you just come here strictly to speak to others and expect some kind of respect back, you're sadly naive. So please, go.

not really, it was true for most of Europe in its highest point. It was understood 90% of the population were peasants who shouldn't even bother discussing this shit, or for that matter even being literate. And most people here are just peasants who were taught to read, to the detriment of society

Went on there a few times, that shit sucks. The great irony is that the website was meant to be some bastion of free speech, but it's a heavily, heavily moderated hugbox that bans any dissenting opinions. They also consider literally everyone a fucking shill, no matter what someone does, it's a shill.

So what you're saying is you need epic upboats scoring system to massage your ego, right?

jew

As someone who likes monarchy it's odd you don't realize this. People here are only even here because degenerate modern society lets them have time and ability to discuss anything other than day to day survival and family matters.

early buffett is good for finance but in 2016 he's a senile welfare lying faggot who should be avoided at all costs

look into simons or spitznagel

No.
The point is I better of learning about soccer watching what Cristiano Ronaldo does and other talented players, then by watching the coaching of my high school ( i can learn with him, but it will only take me so far)

please, I'm not a science guy and don't have much cultural baggage
I'm 20 yo be gentle