Which jobs won't be automated in the future?

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Will there be any more jobs for people to have in the future? Other than for the people who operate and build the machinery?

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I guess "social" jobs mostly, and those protected by the law.
Women will generally be OK. Men will be screwed though.

>tfw mechanic master race

Doctors/nurses, psychiatrists/psychologists/human resource anagers, businesses, lawyers, researchers, programmers.

Security, sports(including chess), politicians, reporters

>tfw operater

I'm 21 so I'll probably end up being some elite old fag operating very high tech Waifus

I think it will be a long, long time before a craftsman or skilled laborer is replaced by a robot. Too many nuances to master when it comes to making and installing something. Too much shit to go wrong when you give the reins to a machine that can't improvise like a human being can.

Service jobs, on the other hand, are already going out the door. Take self-checkout at the grocery store, for example. Eventually all customer service will be run by an AI.

But none of this will happen fully in our lifetimes. This shit is in it's babby stages. Not to mention how expensive it will be to make the transition and implement it into a place of business.

Honestly most jobs only exist because people want that human contact. The only thing that will get automated is the production sector.

Don't worry, we'll descend into civil unrest well before they're all gone. Once trucking goes in the next 10-15 years working class whites will get the happening started one way or another.

Retail jobs have been stagnating for over a decade because of ecommerce. I just finished writing a term paper about this. Automation already killed manufacturing, it's about to gut the service industry over the next few years.

But ecommerce causes an increase in jobs related to logistics and delivering goods. There is still an entire generation alive that doesn't know how to use computers or are afraid of using credit cards online.

>Will there be any more jobs for people to have in the future?
Robotic engineers

I'm a prison guard and have like 20 more years of service left before I can retire with a decent pension. Am I safe?

>tfw finishing first year of law school

How fucked am I?

Isn't that one of the hardest engineering fields?

No. Robots are literally just metal and gas.

Teaching jobs will exist so long as any one other job does. Other than that, nurses. Doctors can be replaced by robots but for some reason most people wouldn't want bedside robot care.
Now Me? I'd fuck a robo nurse.

I cut fruit at a grocery store when I'm not in school. Is my source of neet bux gonna go away?

I'm a geophysicst, I think I'm fairly safe. Most scientists will be fine except for chemists.

what if they replace prisoners with robots

>I cut fruit at a grocery store when I'm not in school.
You don't even know what NEET means do you?

Politician

>part time job
>school
Literally the opposite of a NEET

what do you expect from a guy who cuts fruit for a living

>But ecommerce causes an increase in jobs related to logistics and delivering goods
No, it doesn't. Ecommerce competes with physical stores, so its business comes at the expense of traditional stores. Brick-and-mortar stores also have logistics and delivery needs. If Ecommerce is shipping a good to your house, then that same good isn't being shipped to a retail store to replace the one you bought.

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Here's a study that shows the chances of certain jobs being automated. (Pg. 57)

For example, they posit that Dentists have a .44% of being automated, while line cooks have a 99% chance of being automated.

>He thinks machine manufacturing will be safe

Ever heard of 3d printing?

>Which jobs won't be automated in the future?
politician/bureaucrat

That's a myth. Ecommerce is more direct than shipping to stores. Logistic and delivery jobs actually decrease in the long run.

It's not a robot lawyer, it's a better search engine.

Lawyer is an artificial club admission of which is administered by other lawyers.

I think AI is one of those classic 90:10 problems.

That is the last 10% takes 90% of the work.
Even though they are capable of impressive feats I still think serious intellectual automation is a long way off.

art teachers mane
cant program that shit

>pipe welder

good luck

My friend works in a lab at JHU that is currently mapping neural structures. We are at most 20-30 years away from being able to replicate these artificially. Full fledged AI is something that will surprise a lot of people when it finally arrives. Unfortunately, the prospects for something horrendously bad happening are rather high.

>0.98 Models
>98% chance that robots will replace human women as models for fashion, etc.

What.

I FUCKING HATE THIS ERA REEEEEEE

>the prospects for something horrendously bad happening are rather high.

Like what?

>Doctors

None. Anyone who says otherwise is pretending human brains are made out of magic and somehow do things that can't ever be handled by processes running on mechanical substrates instead.

I work in the wastewater industry, it's about as automated as it's going to get. I'm safe

Literally if one malicious person or organization gets its hands on full fledged AI capable of self improvement then the entire species is fucked. We're all fucking dead. You have to be very careful when handling a new species that is objectively superior to humanity.

Short of people who design more automation, until legit AI is created with full and unrestricted access to the means of production of more robuts and also control over them, nothing cannot not be automated.

But of the whole word is automated
Who will get sued?

nah dawg you only teach art if you cant do it right

Even that stuff has collapsed recently, with all the actually skilled pro artists realising that all the money is in educating other people, so they're all making patreons and gumroads and shit.

How does anyone see this and not feel horrified

Even if YOUR job is safe that unrest and worldwide revolution is going to be pretty fucking terrible

Lawyer bot will make you obsolete. In the future there will just be competing AIs in court rooms.

Sometimes I think it might be fun. Just burn everything down and start all over again.

Look I admit I know fuck all about AI but I do have experience with difficult software problems.
It is almost impossible from the outside looking in to appreciate the massive number of issues that inevitably occur and the amount of work it takes to get a working solution.
It is very very easy to over simplify hugely complex problems.
I still do this myself even though I know I am doing it

As they say take how long you seriously think a project will take and then multiply it by 4 and add a bit and this a decent estimate of the actual time it will take

I would be surprised if AI does not have the same problems.

I think that has more to do with the traditional prussian school system being complete shit. It is much better for everyone involved to watch videos or streams of your teacher for learning. More importantly, online teachers only do it out of passion.

Nothing to worry about there.

Keep a gun, and a dog, for each of your 3+ able bodied children.

Yeah that study is bullshit. My job has a higher likelihood of being computerized than a crossing guard? Ok...

It's a good thing that the population of most civilized countries has been decreasing then, right? I mean at least we might have a chance.

Automation Technician.

Machine learning takes care of this to some extent. You no longer have to think of everything, you just tell the program the general goal and let it find an optimal solution.

Hydrology

yeah, you're probably right about actual implementation. I was just impressed with how close we are conceptually. We know on a functional, mechanical level how neural activity works. It's only a matter of time until we get this done, even if its more than 30 years. I'm sure it will happen in the life times of many people on this board.

>implying this won't disappear as well once a decent humanoid robot is developed

>mfw sysadmin, bachelor's of computer science
job fucking GUARANTEED in the future.

Disgusting.

I thought that a large amount of networking shit was already automated to a large degree?

Thinking of going into the film industry, don't have high expectations that I won't be a glorified electrician or if I'm lucky a grip.

Any electrical trades, HVAC, and probably some other trades that I can't think of

>he thinks there's such a thing as objective species superiority

For one, no it isn't
For two, why are you bragging over having to work? The rest of us will be spending our time improving ourselves with basic income and learning/traveling while you're still toiling away for shekels.

the man who fixes the robot fixer's robot fixer's robot fixer's robot fixer's robot fixer's robot fixer's robot fixer's...

All jobs will be automated. And many will just disappear because they are basically useless.

I disagree. Think of it like this; the reason that most stores do not operate 24/7 is because the profitability of an hour of running is surpassed by an hour of wages for many businesses.

So, you can have much larger businesses running store fronts with much fewer persons running forever.

I'd argue that the first thing that will happen within 10 years is the death of cabs. Ridesharing is already tossing out cabs in many cities simply because cab driver's knowledge has been replaced by GPS. So, what happens when auto driving zipcars become a thing?

>Get zip car app
>Pay a subscription or a cab fair per ride
>Zip car drives itself to your house
>Get in zip car
>It reads your app on where to take you
>Takes you to location
>Goes out to go pick up another whore

And it'll be fucking awesome. Hour commute? Well, you've now got 1 hour to watch tv, read books, or masturbate furiously. Shit faced drunk? Well, your car is taking you home. Have a job doing deliveries? Well, get in your car as it takes you along the most efficient route to bring you to your deliveries.

As for the last thing, that is kind of the last niche' of humanity. Being able to do vaguely legal, haphazard things to accomplish jobs.

>Train a robot to ring everyone's doorbell to get through the front gate
>Train a robot to go get a 24 pack of beer on its way to deliver your pizza because they'll give you 20 bucks for it
>Train a robot to go up a fire escape because the front stoop will get robbed 5 minutes later

Etc, etc.

Nahh, the elites will just use it to kill all of us. We're doomed.

give it four years.

>programmers
see you next year

objectively superior as in smarter and more creative by a very large margin

>only do it out of passion
Well certainly if they've made it to that level of craftsmanship they have to have passion for their work. A lot of it is for the money though. The main art industry expansion this decade has been concept art; for films, games, whatever, people have been pushing for that like crazy. Now though we have a whole generation of kids who've grown up training to do that stuff, and with the new 3D software coming out all the time there's a new thing called photobashing.

Basically you take a 10 minute 3D model as a base, cut and paste a bunch of photos in, blend a bit, then throw effects over the top. Boom. Concept art, it looks horrible and is helping games like call of dooters stagnate terribly because its all just stock photographs but it's fast. Flooded the market now though like cheap Chinese steel killing that industry over here, so the artists with actual practical skills have turned to teaching because it's so so lucrative.

You want to make money in the art world right now, you either make porn of Overwatch and other fandom shit, pander to them normally, photobash concepts for Marvel and Activision, or you make basic tutorials for thousands of kids who think they'll be the next master.

Illustration is still ok but it's nightmarishly competetive and doesn't pay regularly/well enough to pay every bill, so most of those guys do teaching on the side too.

No need for any of that when you have robots working for you. Money will become a thing of the past too.

pure fucking conjecture

>our time improving ourselves with basic income and learning/traveling
No, it will just be like brave new world, senseless hedonism. No places left to travel to since everywhere will share the same global monoculture.

self driving cars were created to get rid of truck drivers. logistics is dying out too.

I'm saying that if we get self improving AI it will be smarter and more creative than humanity, therefore highly dangerous in the wrong hands. How is that conjecture?

Cloud SaaS shit is only going to get more and more common with the increasing efficiency of wireless and cellular networks

I also heard that software is mostly going to start writing itself (don't know about that though)

TL/DR - There are going to be a lot of bronies going from linux admin to NEET in the future

Yeah, I feel like the ideal of some "Self improving artist" isn't that achievable for most people. We'll either be docile sheep smoking weed all day, or incredibly violent and self destructive. Probably some the first, others the second.

I'm a 21 year old graphic designer making 70k, am finishing up my first screen play, know absolutely everything about film and am an extremely handsome man. The arts will never be able to be automated.

(I'm also a 6'9 wendy's chef on the side with a 2 foot dick making over 2mil a year)

>in the future large scale automation combined with globalization (i.e. immigration/free movement of labor) decreases wages across the board
>job security becomes a thing of the past
>tfw Marx turns out to be literally right about proletarianization

Not the guy you're replying to, but you should probably stop. The guy is brain dead if he seriously think that humans are/will be smarter than a self improving AI.

Why?

>operate and build the machinery
AI doesn't need an operator. Machines can build machines, they may even design better machines and buildings than people in the future.

I think you're just rehashing fears akin to those of nuclear proliferation.

Also, I doubt that an AI would operate under duress from malicious humans.

overblown clickbait, its a fucking robo-auxiliary encyclopedia, not a full on lawyer

So what if they're smarter than we are? That probably just means they'll destroy themselves more quickly.

You're to quick to assume that intelligence is the supreme determinative factor for survival.

It's basically going to be doing what a legal assistant/paralegal/intern might be doing. That alone is alarming.

Marx was more inclinced to make predictions than prescriptions. He predicted, rather than directly advocated, revolutions overthrowing capitalist systems. He believed it was inevitable and part of natural progress.

In the future criminals will be unemployed because robots can do their job much quicker and efficiently.

unless people put an end to automation its going to continue to the point where socialism will be the only answer

By definition intelligence is how good you are at accomplishing some task. If that task is survival, then yeah, intelligence is the supreme determinative factor for survival.

Humans are bretty shit

why not just replace them all with robots

He probably meant autismobux, lay off the poor guy.

Models are already 99% photoshop, why couldn't a future generation just be a pure AI amalgam of beautiful features, when entire subcultures of people (even non Japanese) are already unironically choosing 2D women over 3D?

Are you joking or do you not even understand you aren't applying his lesson about vast oversimplification to your idealized learning machine?

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It won't be "socialism" if the people getting handouts aren't lazy shits.

I'm a pediatrician and I'm probably safe. Robots would need to be precise and gentle because kids can be awful. I doubt they will make child-friendly bots in my lifetime.

I'll never understand how those work.

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