Bravo France! This is your future now!

Bravo France! This is your future now!

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S A NC T I O N S

Be prepared for the sanctions, Poland

>implying Germany allows them to sanction us

SANCTIONS4POLAND

you won't do it. we and our economy are too important for you. and france is pretty much irrelevant

>boring "centrist" with little in the way of actual convictions just like every other politician of the past 25+ years in the west
>"this is a revolution"
lolwut

>sanctions against EU country have to be voted unilateraly
>Hungary (praise be upon them) already said there's no fucking chance they will ever support sanctions against Poland

P A Y
G I B S

wtf?france is niggerland?

You guys had one job

You realise that if Le Pen won, Poland would be annexed by Russia, right? Not like you fuckers are capable of defending yourselves.

>if you sanction your enemy, they win

>implying Macron won't just do everything his German masters tells him to, just like every other French leader since 1871

>you won't do it.
sure we would.
>we and our economy are too important for you.
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>and france is pretty much irrelevant
way more relevant than poland in every aspect

>Poland would be annexed by Russia
The same Russia that still struggles to get a ground in a few dozens of square kilometres in Ukraine despite 90% population support?
The same Russia and was all talk-the-talk and no walk-the-walk when Turks shot down their military fighter jet?

Oh no, shitting my pants atm.
Get a fucking grip on reality you stupid LARPing piece of dookie.
Russia is a bear without teeth.

Fuck Poland, I'm suicidal already.

That's the point. germany will just dump all the """"""refugees""""""" in france like in a trash bin. Macron wanted to stop the apparent outsourcing. So now the immigrants in france itself will start doing all the manufacturing.

All French people should kill themselves to be honest

Yes, the same Russia that annexed a substantial amount of Ukrainian land when the West decided to abandon Ukraine, to the ire of nearly the entire world.

Yes, the same Russia that had Turkey beg on its knees and apologise after shooting down one of their jets. Turkey which has a stronger military than Poland probably, is also in NATO and has a strongman leader, still had to beg.

I'd give Poland two, maybe three weeks.

Hey, at least they won't end up in your backyard.

Unless the EU wants to start sanctioning tyrants like Kaczynski and Orban while dishing out dosh to democratic, forward-thinking leaders like Babis and Vucic.

>when the West decided to abandon Ukraine, to the ire of nearly the entire world.

Ukraine wasn't part of NATO, we had no obligation to defend it. Completely different from Poland.

one of us one of us

>Hey, at least they won't end up in your backyard.
But that's exactly what Macarroni is complaining about, that if they take the gibs they have to take the shits as well.

>forward-thinking leaders like Vucic
wtf am I reading lmao

>Yes, the same Russia that had Turkey beg on its knees and apologise after shooting down one of their jets.
This is what russian bydlo gastarbeiters in Holland think.

My fucking sides.

Learn to sarcasm, Alexander.

>implying a country that just voted for self-destruction will have the balls to do anything beyond self-flagellate
>implying Frances new "non-culture," won't be entirely based on cheap labor it can grab from any corner of the world

France isn't going to do anything to Poland.

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But Poland is racist, of course they're going to do something about it

Poland isn't racist, Poland is just dumb and extremely easy to manipulate. Tell them the sun is bad and they'll bury themselves underground.

>We're guaranteed years of happening's from France yet again.

>a Russian gastarbeiter

in that case I would support Le Pen as she is extremely pro-Russia

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Disgusting.

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For an organization created to counter the military power of the USSR it sure as hell is strange they wouldn't help Ukraine out against Russia

or Georgia against Russia

>You realise that if Le Pen won, Poland would be annexed by Russia, right?
What the fuck are you talking about? Even Le Pen decided to leave NATO (but that would have been extremely unlikely) it doesn't mean the end NATO itself.
Also Russia is too poor right now to start shit like that. It's not the Soviet Union anymore. Currently Russia is a joke.

All headed for poland or no EU bucks.

It was meant to protect its member states. If you're not in NATO, then toigh luck.

Again, not a member of NATO.

When has NATO ever done anything to curb Russia's expansion? They just used everyone's fear of Russia as an excuse to subjugate half the world into serving their interests.

>counter the military power of the USSR
>help Ukraine out against Russia

>counter USSR
>help against Russia

>A defensive military alliance between member states didn't go out of its way to save non-members

You guys are really onto something.

>oh there's a hole in your part of the ship?
>though luck dudee

What the hell are you trying to say here?

>Poland is just dumb and extremely easy to manipulate. Tell them the sun is bad and they'll bury themselves underground.
kek

Which part of "not a member of the military alliance" you don't understand?

why are americans unable to think long-term or outside the box? go read that martin niemoller qoute "first they came for"
russia invading nations close to us is a threat to nato whether the nations are in nato or not

not nato's ship dumb a lumb, just some boat to the side

NATO is going to lose if they let Russia expand however much they want.

Did it lost already?

Macron is the french Bernie Sanders

I hate him

that the ship is still sinking despite no water coming in from your part of the boat.
ship = europe
water = russia
your part of the ship = european nato countries

Nice mental gymnastics right there.

>however much they want
If that was true russian troops would be marching through Kiev right now.
The truth is Russia simply can't afford something like that, not to mention the sanctions are already damaging its economy pretty hard.

Sanders is more left-wing, Macron is a flithy centrist

but russia is part of europe aswell

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NATO's going to lose because Europeans have shown they have absolutely no fucking spine and so all the heavy lifting done by the alliance comes from the US.

Your post is also completely irrelevant to the fact it's a defensive alliance between members. Learn what that means.

you have to go back

>NATO is going to lose

Lose what? WWIII?

>If they let Russia expand as much as it wants

Russia could annex Ukraine and Belarus tomorrow and it would make no difference to the relative military and economic strength of NATO vs Russia.

NATO is the ship. Ukraine is another ship that isn't our problem.

Hmm try again sweetie.
youtube.com/watch?v=lV_PQlXCgGA

Only the public, turning them against us more and more.

See, Russia isn't out for world domination, they settle for picking on whoever they can to gain influence and power. By making up excuses to let this continue you're playing straight into his hands.

Why should Europeans pay their money AND their lives to help you intervene in dumbfuckistan #5?

Even Sweden helped you take down Afghanistan, and what did we get for it? Fucking nothing. For shame.

>ship = europe
>water = russia
russia = europe
therefore
water = ship

wHAT DO THEY PUT IN YOUR WATER YOU UDMB ASS?!

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God damn, man
God bless whoever my ancestors were who made their way over to the New World

Only on economics. On social policies he lines right up with leftwing anti-western sentiment.

>sweetie
Passive aggressive leftwingers are fucking scum, especially when they're leaves.

You care about Ukraine, because it's part of Europe and you care about Europe. I only care about NATO member states. Rest of Europe can go to hell for all I care, they're not our problem. I'd rather defend New Zealand than Ukraine.

pls pola let me stay

God bless the refugees and economic migrants who came to America, otherwise we'd be like France, a country that brings in huge numbers of refugees and economic migrants.

What would America get from defending a rapidly self-immolating Sweden from a triumphant Russia?

We're not talking about Afghanistan, we're talking about the danger of a resurgent Russia threatening Europe and if Europeans aren't inclined to defend themselves (which they've shown and proven quite a lot of in the past two years or so) then the defensive alliance designed to check Russia for their benefit will fail.

i'm fucking hate my countrymen. Seriously, I'm ashamed to live with you as a part of the same nation.

Better spics than muzzies. By a huge margin.

>Thinks we're in NATO

Long post for someone who doesn't know jack shit, I almost read it

The UK together with its master the US largely CREATED the refugees with the deranged attack on Iraq that lead to a catastrophic destablisation of the whole region.

Then the US/UK slammed their doors in the face of the refugees which they have themselves created and left the rest of us clean up the US/UK's mess while blaming Merkel for the consequences of US/UK's deranged aggressive illegal actions which amount to massive war crimes.

Remember how strongly Germany and France OPPOSED the Iraq war? Remember the French wine spilled on the US streets?

When will the Brits put Blair and the Americans Bush on trial for the disastrous illegal Iraq war? When are you going to pay to Iraqis the huge war reparations you owe them for totally destroying their country at all levels (political, military, economic, social, infrastructure ...)?

A million dead civilians in Iraq only due to your actions, and counting. When you occupied Iraq, you were bound by international law to PROTECT the Iraqi civilians, also from any new rebel groups. Yet you did not even care enough to COUNT the dead Iraqi civilians. Eh, after all they were only those inferior Muslims, nothing but collateral damage.

The deranged US/UK duo have in effect also created ISIS (which eventually spread from Iraq to Syria). Obama, Putin and Blair have all said this on the record.

Your insane aggressive actions also caused a dramatic rise in international terrorism and made the rest of us targets of terrorists.

The UK is a disgrace to the EU. Good riddance.

New Zealand getting invaded would mean nothing to NATO while Ukraine would matter

And you know this becouse you watched videos on youtube?

But Macron is an ex-banker who loves capitalism.

POLA POLA~

But you realise that Lepen is socialist here?

>and if Europeans aren't inclined to defend themselves

The Europeans are literally our human shields against Russia and always have been. If a war starts, they would be the first to die, it's not fair to pretend thst they refuse to defend themselves when just aligning with the US puts them.in harm's way.

Implying that's a bad thing.

you can move to any other EU county, anytime you want.
Just saying

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The refugees and economic migrants to the US built the country up from nothing. Yes, I know that's going to offend your sensibilities, but most of the US was empty during the major refugee waves to it. That and the people who came were integrated and assimilated within a generation or two.

France on the other hand already exists and is letting in people who are more than just refugees and migrants. Any nation that has allowed massive Islamic entryism only goes one way and you have laughably misplaced hubris and arrogance to assume a culture that's deconstructed itself down to its very biology core is going to be the one exception to survive that well-documented trend.

Yes, i know, already working on it.

Polaaaaa~

good luck!

There is no US obligation to defend Ukraine, while I'm pretty sure that the US does have an obligation to defend NZ. Obviously Ukraine getting attacked is a concern for NATO as a whole, but ultimately not worth dying over.

Then it's in their own best self-interests to make sure they can defend themselves to not be just meat shields. They only side with the US militarily because it's the only power that can leap across the sea and help them. Despite all the well words it's an alliance of convenience, which does not remove the need of Europeans to still defend themselves adequately.

Because muzzie countries are significantly more shitty than spic countries.

It ain't rocket science, Stanislaw.

Why you guys are doing better.

No, it was an obvious hypothetical user. Jesus fucking Christ. I've been bitching at people talking about non-member states the whole thread. The point was NATO is designed as a mutual defense treaty and if say a country like Sweden that has resigned itself to its own shitty, self-imposed fate were a member and attacked by Russia, the US would not gain anything by defending it, at least not anything more than what nations like Sweden gained by helping in Afghanistan. It was a quipping response Sven. Keep up.

Uh, why do you think that? If you're talking about econominc growth, it's normal for developing countries/countries that opened their marcets recently. Also i'm tired how nobody have own opinions here and take everyting from political leaders of choosen party as truth.

Indeed it is
that's why your embassy has a hotline for tourists from glorious Nippon to ship them back immediately them when their ideas of france are shattered when they actually visit the place

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_syndrome

>Paris syndrome (French: Syndrome de Paris, Japanese: パリ症候群, Pari shōkōgun)
> transient mental disorder exhibited by some individuals when visiting or vacationing to Paris,
>as a result of extreme shock resulting from their finding out that
>Paris is not what they had expected it to be.
>The condition is commonly viewed as a severe form of culture shock.
>It is particularly noted among Japanese travelers.

You just so happened to ignore the very important part where France was the principle power behind the campaign in Libya until their sorry military showed its cracks from neglect and the US had to once more do the heavy work.

Given most of the migrants aren't Syrian and the completely unrelated wave of humanity moving up from Africa benefits from a toppled Libyan government, it seems you're just whining about your lack of a spine to both oppose US/UK/French foreign policy decisions while also opposing the mass of humanity that followed. It's not either/or, you can do both and the fact you didn't is not the fault of the US/UK/France. You let those people in. You are self-flagellating. You are the ones who put up the refugee welcome signs. You are the ones suppressing yourselves from being able to say anything about it. None of that is the fault of cowboys and redcoats playing in the sand.

>it sure as hell is strange they wouldn't help Ukraine out against Russia
We sent them a couple hundred million in military aid and training, fuckboi. We're not going to intervene when it wasn't explicit that they were sending entire armies into Ukraine to conquer all of it. We're not going to intervene in a non-member state when a significant portion of them are pro-Russian anyway and both sides have byldos that would love to bitch about how we're acting Imperalistic.

Thats a strange reason to immigrate.
If you wanna see the wolrd or get a new experience I could see why you would want to switch the country for a few years, same for wanting more cash, but there being a consensus in society you dont like seems to be a rather small issue.
So why turn your back on it completely? Here and elsewhere you will find other kinds of opinions that the majority of the population share while people also love their daily piece of stability the current party promises.

Total individualistic societies you only find in western capitals/american cities I guess and even there you will find patterns persons submit to.

And that comes along with open borders and "no culture," because borders and culture are hurdles to getting massive waves of cheap labor in your country. Those two stances help define the western left and they're fine going along with it to their own ends.

Top fucking kek