What is Sup Forums's opinion on Anarchism?

What is Sup Forums's opinion on Anarchism?

I became an anarchist a couple years ago, and believe in it due to universal hatred of government and after studying history. I feel that anarchy is a good way to retry society, with some ideologist starting communes to try their ideology under their own principle. People that want to help you will, and you can give what you want to whomever you want. Anarchy can legitimately build a more friendly and open society, even for you guys. I mean, if you talk in real life the way you do on Sup Forums you would get your ass kicked or maybe even arrested. Without these laws and barriers you can express yourself however you please. What do you guys think of this?

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Are you an actual anarchist or an occupy big government zombie ?

Why do I feel like you're some kind of antifa or lefty cuck?

>Anarchists go on rampages, riot, commit acts of terror, kill cops, kill people who disagree with them

"What are you talking about dude! Anarchism will totally work without laws and society will be peaceful!"

>Without these laws and barriers you can express yourself however you please.
Without these laws and barriers you can get murdered for your views.

>What is Sup Forums's opinion on Anarchism
Naive.

People are too pussy to bring down governments and corporations now.

What makes them think they could stop warlords moving in, gunning them down, and taking their shit?

The idea of mutual cooperation and non violence are absolutely naive.

GOVERNMENT WATCH OUT.

left-anarchists are communist scum pretending to love freedom when in reality they all advocate state theft, suppression of free speech and advocate the death penalty for minor crimes.

A 5 minute conversation with the average anarchist is the best propaganda against them, they're insufferable idiots, druggies and SJWs.

Anarchists probably commit a majority of terrorist style attacks in Europe. They've one upped the religion of peace that way

Do a few ride a longs with police, fire, and EMS and you'll understand that the general public is generally a danger to itself and that your political ideology is garbage. I don't think you realize that in this modern society, we need regulations and government to substantiate vetting systems that say, for example, ensure people are properly educated and approved to practice medicine. In your system, there is no recourse against malpractice, for one example.

I don't really care about Occupy, all they are doing is repressing the right of other people. All Wall Street wants to do is make money, there is nothing wrong with that.
Because you go on this board, and anyone short of a neo-nazi is one.
>Implying literally every ideology ever doesn't do this
You can also defend yourself.
Militias and vigilantes.
I'm a center anarchist though.
No, Islam commits over 60% of attacks in Europe.

> talk in real life like Sup Forums you'll be beaten.
> suddenly under no government saying mean things makes people not attack you
Ya live in a fantasy land kid. Won't happen. Grow up and just become a conservative who believes in a restricted small government

Who will restrict the government/

the 300 million guns we have

edgy Sup Forums autism thread again

Give me a thread on this site that isn't autism. The point of this site and this board especially is for people to talk about whatever bullshit they want. Besides, I garment you passes multiple pro-genocide/war threads before you got here.

>Militias and vigilantes
Most people don't have the balls to do that though.

Are most people in law enforcement though? Most people also don't have the balls to be a doctor yet people do that.

>You can also defend yourself.
This thing will degenerate into a collection of small bands of murderous bastards really quick. Not exactlyaworldI'd like to live in.

Those people will kill each other out though. Besides, some people will form communities that will defend and feed it's residence. So basically everyone will either start or join one of these and everyone else will either fend for themselves or die.

Besides, as evolution states, if they are removed from the gene pool there will be less violent assholes.

>I'm a center anarchist though.
What does that even mean, Egoism?

degeneracy.
/thread

it's so problematic right? ugh its 2016

>I'm a center anarchist though.
>with some ideologist starting communes to try their ideology under their own principle.
>center
>communes
Pick one.

What would happen if I gathered a band of people armed them and started protecting people for money? Would that be acceptable?

anarchists cannot exist in a society, they are usually young/inexperienced and dependent family members with no future and a penchant to destroy others' proprety, i.e. scum

An excuse to riot by those without the intellectual, educational, emotional and political means to gain wealth in today's society.

Nothing more, nothing less.

>All Wall Street wants to do is make money

Where the hell have you been since 2008? Anarchist, my arse...

If you had only Northwest Europeans from historically middle class families in a country completely surrounded by mountains so that no one else could get in even if the country wanted to bring them, anarchism could work really well, and be quite nice.

20th century was the age of communism. Now is the turn of anarchism to continue the radical left legacy.

Islam commits the majority.
Antifa and anarchists are still cucks tho.

there are too many strong men with large armies to fuck over you puny anarchy fags

If they want to pay you yes.
If they fuck up let them, all that will prove is that they are doing something wrong. Instead of having people waste money on backing them up because 'muh capitalism' they should just fail or try to fix their problems.

Fuck off anti-fa cuckold

Anarchy cannot provide a way through conflicts between groups competing over resources without resorting to Might Makes Right.

Other than that, if the World restructured after an apocalypse into anarchist farming communes, it wouldn't be all bad. Three day working week, for a start. But you'd always be dependent on the land, always be a harvest failure away from utter ruin, and always be on the lookout for rival groups just turning up and looting you.

Ultimately, groups would band together out of necessity into essentially sovereign town states, and that would be the end of anarchy.

>If they want to pay you yes.
What if I then start building safe roads and bridges and demand a revenue for their use or forcefully deny access to anyone not paying?

Its true but anarchist work as guerilla underdogs in the society.

>anarchism to continue the radical left legacy
>left
Anarchy is the absence of government, m8. Left is the dominance and extension of government into every aspect of our lives. They are mutually exclusive, no matter what the doped up guy with dreadlocks was trying to tell you at the last protest march.

If they want to yes.

Am I allowed to buy a crown, use the money to build castles and distribute the management protected lands to my vassals?

doesn't work

I'm a former AnCap. Since you're a commie, you probably don't consider that "real anarchism," but whatever.

This purist version of libertarianism, I have realized, has a great number of flaws as it has been theorized. Any societal framework, however, isn't going to be based entirely on the writings of academics. You do actually have to have good idaes in the first place for them to work, though. Consider how communism has never worked, and The Constitution, though under attack, is still holding strong.

Any anarchist framework is entirely impractical right now, and possibly always. If a nation's people decided to suddenly abolish their government, they would be overrun by invaders so quickly. Anarchism would not require just a peaceful society. It would require either a peaceful world, or a well-armed and competent populous.

Either way we are centuries away from anarchism, if it even is to happen.

Muh human nature.

If you want, but keep in mind other people can also kill you while you're in this process.

Fascist are the real cuckolds. They want to be slaves.

Anarchism does not exist. Anarchists are bolsheviks that tried to avoid that bloody label, but they are exactly the same

> We have eliminated all oppression: now everyone is free to freely share everything
> But I don't wanna share. I wanna use my freedom to acquire property, manufacture and sell soccer ball
> WHAT!! CAPITALIST OPPRESSOR! KILL HIM!

Do you really think that humans are not animals?

Come on

my take is that it's good you realize that "legitimate" government is perpetrator of most of the evil. however what anarchists fail to realize is that nature abhors a vacuum and will soon see it filled. some other form of government will fill it, most definitely. government is the pinnacle thus far of our ability to organize effectively as a group, and will beat out everything else. in my opinion, government is best when it is small and unobtrusive to everyday life, yet effective and efficient. it needs to be the cream of the crop, the most disciplined, the most knowledgeable. taking up 40% of the god damn economy is not fucking okay. bloated, inefficient, wasteful, yet corrupt and controlling government is the worst well-intentioned thing that we can do to ourselves. what the fuck is wrong with these societies that pay exorbitant tax to a big government that treats them like dog shit and prevents the individual from bettering himself?

people also don't realize that not all pleasure are equal, and that those who don't know better will get involved in degenerate things, which are the antithesis to the healthy human way of being. drugs, etc. look at the degraded state of the modern day man and woman, for God's sake. we need laws and government protection to prevent the sharks of human consciousness from knowingly taking advantage of this via introducing harmful influences.

i think nationalism is the most conducive form of government towards the health, wealth and prosperity of a people. anarchism is naive.

If you hate the government you should be an anarcho capitalist (true anarchism) instead of some dumb commune shit.

I run a security company. How would anyone kill me and why? They then would have to protect themselves.

At some point it's easier to protect the land by sectors, walling them off and patrolling them. which means anyone not paying for protection should get out into the unprotected areas.
Makes perfect sense.

So basically you are advocating for feudalism?

Marxism-Leninism > Anarchism

it's not really that hard to understand, i think. there would be some sort of collective pot that everyone contributes to, which would probably provide or contribute to a living wage or something of that nature, and then people otherwise would be free to build society themselves.

a bunch of flaming edgy faggots

Which proves that they are insane

Anarchists actually delude themselves into conflicts of interests won't arise from that collective pot, and that a system of judges won't be needed

Anarchism is not an ideology, it is just an oxymoron that communists use to say "hurr durr akthually we are not totalitarian"

I find it hilarious that traditionally, anarchism is associated with communism. And while marx's idea of communism is anarchic in nature, it's a massive contradiction, since you can't have communal ownership naturally without an authoritarian government to keep things that way. It's totally oxymoronic, and I find it hilarious that the same people who go on about anarchism are also, for instance, bernie sanders supporters and want the government to control everything.

Anarchists are just bad liars

They realize that they are just totalitarian communists, but they think they are so clever by fooling people into thinking they are "against the state"

Anarchy wont work because buttfucking Bubba and his good ol boys will come knocking with their guns and just take your shit and rape your women. Fucking hippies.

> b... but but.... but in my utopia crime won't exist!!! everyone will be clones of me, and there will never be disagreements!

I own a company and got myself a very nice car. I parked it somewhere and some faggots key'd the car with a big A.

It triggered me. Antifa major population is 14-21 unemployed male according to studies, so i would say anarchist are 14-16 retards.

If I saw one of the retards that did that to my car I would have destroyed his face, underage or not and I dont even give a shit if I need to pay 10x the amount of the car repair in court

Well, who else would want to convince people that crime does not exist, but criminals themselves!

perhaps it would be aimed toward something that everybody can agree on, and at the same time something that is so minimal that it isn't really worth disagreeing over.
just playing devil's advocate friendo

Judges (and thus a government) would be needed the same, insofar crime WILL exist

Anarchism is the only "ideology" that requires an impossible condition to happen magically in reality

That's not Anarchy m8. Not even Ubuntu Contributionalism is that naïve, and they are working towards a future without money at all.

perhaps they feel that people will naturally organize into smaller groups, which would then police themselves. the groups then would have sort of an agreement amongst themselves to chip in their respective little bits.

>anarchism

that's even more retarded than being a commie

it's just a label, at this point. perhaps they mean that they're taking the perceived essential parts of anarchy

There is nothing preventing the tribes from aligning together and creating a nation

Anarchists seem to believe that tribes ceased to exist for no reason whatsoever, when the reality is that all tribes benefit from a centralized authority that can regulate things like health laws, prevent foreign invasion and standarized measure systems

Grand scale projects like creating a standarized electric grid for a population of 10 million would be impossible under anarchism

anarchists are just ashamed communists.

They don't want to admit they are just as bad as the Bolsheviks, they pervert words so that their violent revolution is viewed as "self-defense". It's pathetic, idiotic, childish.

As an An-Cap I am all for it. However it can only be actively implemented after the physical removal of all leftists.

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>I feel that anarchy is a good way to retry society, with some ideologist starting communes to try their ideology under their own principle.
We did that already. Everyone universally said Anarchy was stupid and gave up on it.

I'm slowly getting into Anarchy but I'm not convinced yet. Primarily because of the amount of chaos that would arise as a result and the fact most anarchists are social awkward fags. What authors have you been reading OP?

Left wing anarchism is an oxymoron since it requires agressive force towards anyone who doesn't comply

Anarcho capitalisam doesn't exist

you faggots wouldn't survive a single day in an anarchist area
grow up being edgy is shamefull pass 16

How would an anarchist society protect itself againts the might of a modern army?

perhaps they feel that contemporary society and it's grand technological achievements has caused more harm than good to the human being and the environment, and that a relatively simpler way of being is best.
i agree that actually going ahead and creating a nation seems to be the missing piece there. also it is of note that a people has rarely gone back to a hunter gatherer society.
perhaps the different tribes would still feel as if they had a reason to distinguish themselves by living apart from the other tribes, but still close enough to them either in proximity, race or culture that they are naturally moved toward cordial relations. something along the lines of how the european countries, before the centralization of the nation state, was comprised of many different kinds of nuanced "french" and "german," with many different languages, customs, etc. perhaps there would be a number of different "anarcho communisms," along these nation lines.
perhaps the "communism" part of AC would be the things that can all be agreed upon, except that these things would be in place not by a top down mandate but rather mutual agreement and cooperation. perhaps this would give one group the power to opt out of certain things that they feel the others have gotten wrong.
the decentralized nature of this style of human society would both allow for these different nuances in a cultural people to exist and for the different groups to have their respective representative say in how the world is, seeing as how the world is made up of people and this would give each group of people the means to live in the way that they see is best.

Anarchists are fucking stupid, murder, theft, and rape will run rampant with no laws. With no government there's no control over what happens and people will take advantage of it. Terrorism will be far more widespread and will be constant. It would be absolute chaos, riots, terrorism, and murder on every street. Anarchy is fucking insane.

>Arrested
by what authority, retard? The guy with the biggest guns? The most water? Food? Hell, gold?
It doesn't work. It always devolves, because people are stupid, just like you.

I used to think that all Amerifats were stupid ignorant sheeple. But recently i saw the US black block and i was really happy seeing people waving the black/red flag, and not totally propagated. Greetings from Greece! (A)

Ha. What is the Spanish civil war?

> Greece supporting unworkable political programs

No surprises here

The one that they not only lost, but got cucked by their own allies?

Never mind that they DID establish a government even if they retardedly refused to call it one

If there were no niggers committing crimes them anarchy would be feasible.

Anarchism cannot work. People naturally want a leader

Moronic.
People with the most resources will become the new government in some cases, and the mob and its ringleaders will become the new government in others. Other countries with a functioning military will be able to whatever they want to with the husk of your country.

LoL i don't even know your country. Also OP has no valid reasons why and how anarchy would work but anyway...

Their resistance to a professional army was symbolic and nothing more

Its pretty bad when you lose your empire, your monarchy, and of all people, your former colonies laugh at how much you cucked yourself

the only real anarchy is right anarchy. anarchocapitalism/minarchism/even libertarianism are the only way human beings can achieve freedom.

>achieve freedom
Some. Most will become slaves.

nothing wrong with that my serbian friend.

>center anarchist
What the fuck is that?