Charles Murray: Genius? hack? or plain-old huckster?

I just finished reading Coming Apart, and I'll be damned if it didn't say exactly what I have been thinking lately about class in America.

I also believe that years from now, The Bell Curve will come to be seen as a true Galileo-moment, a time when someone had the nerve to speak an uncomfortable truth that the establishment (and society) just wasn't yet ready to accept the ramifications of.

So what do folks here think of him and his work?

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The ironic thing about 'The Bell Curve's' is that Murray and Herrnstein deliberately restricted scope of the analysis to whites. They went out of their way to separate race from the issue, and just look at white population data, and everyone lost their minds anyway.

We don't live under fucking dynastic feudalism like most leftists believe. Your IQ is what determines your grades, which determines your GPA, major, degree, and subsequent salary. Different races in the US have income gaps that correspond exactly with what you would think they would be because of their IQ gaps.

Watching the scientific community abandon what will someday come to be seen as the "unified field theory" joining biology with anthropology and sociology is still painful for me to think about.

And he's right on the money about how class is stratifying along genetically-driven intellectual lines in the US. As someone from an upper middle class background who lives and works around a lot of working class people, I see the reality that he cautions of every day.

Murray is an honest scholar.

Lots of people laud him and Hernstein as geniuses, but their great achievement wasn't intellectual - it was moral.

If every social scientist shared Murray's devotion to truth for its own sake, we would live in a much more just and beautiful civilization. The real lesson from Murray's career is that it doesn't take a grand unified theory to forge a legacy. You simply need to be willing to follow the facts wherever they lead.

Despite his conservadad and libertarian cuck tendencies, he should be applauded for his guts.

He's very brace

The media has been surprisingly welcoming to him, given his history. Whenever his more recent work warrants mention, most media sources don't incessantly deride him over his past. It's fascinating how he 'almost' became a pariah, but recuperated over the years and has a snug little hovel in the political mainstream. All without renouncing his beliefs, he now just keeps them hush hush (but will still speak candidly when prompted)

Eh, IQ doesn't determine it, as IQ is probabilistic not deterministic. However, it is a very good predictor of success, something like 1.5-0.6 in academics.

>true Galileo-moment

More like a Copernicus moment

Racial equality vs Race realism in increasingly becoming like the old Ptolemaic vs Copernicus systems in Astronomy

The Ptolemaic system (geocentrism) had to keep creating more and more complex and bizarre explanations for retrograde planetary motion before scientists had to discard it and replace it with heliocentrism (Copernicus)


I think the "white privilege" nonsense is our "geocentric" moment where everything gets so complex and illogical people simply have to drop racial equality.

I didn't read any of his books, because I doubt they're available in Poland and I won't pay too much money for some foreign books

But I've been listening to interviews with him and reading reviews of his book and this guy is one of these people working in the field of humanities that should be paid even by tax payer money

Because this guy writes on important things, not some ideologized, marxist, gender whatever bullshit

>IQ predicts your GPA

God, wish. My cognitive psychologist-administered IQ test back in middle school scored a 145, and my SAT was in the 1500s (which also correlates with an IQ in the 140s)

I've always been incredibly bored in school, which in combination with my rampant ADD has meant that my grades have always been a mess, though I test incredibly well.