Redpill me on Eastern Orthodox. How does it hold up compared to Catholicism? I'm atheist but I'm thinking of converting

Redpill me on Eastern Orthodox. How does it hold up compared to Catholicism? I'm atheist but I'm thinking of converting.

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Excellent. Be sure to join and make sure to visit and support Russia after

t. KGB

Byzantium didn't have no KGB, leaf

Shameless self bump
Any Russian or Greek bros?

greek ortho reporting in

Ironic statement considering you wrote "How does it hold up" in the O.P.

Nice. Tell me about Orthodox and how it deals with science and human nature. Catholics and their flip flopping turn me off
Yeah I guess it isn't too popular

heretical and schismatic

you are joining a religion because of a Sup Forums meme

they were excellent pawns for the USSR during the cold war

God did not create a xenophobic nationalist church to be his one true church

Russian church was recreated by the KGB after they wiped out the original church. A bit sad but it could be worse I suppose.

I don't necessarily want to join orthodox. I just want to weigh my options. I'm thinking of Christianity as a whole

>God did not create a xenophobic nationalist church to be his one true church
Russian church is a propaganda arm of the state. Although the church also demands things from the state in return. It works like a symbiotic relationship.

You are just butthurt because you can't understand the history of the church and how it is currently in a state of crisis

You know jack shit about Christ

You should probably start by reading the Bible or going to mass first before you start throwing stones at a religion you know nothing about

You are not even going to be able to find an orthodox church because you live in america

When you go to said orthodox church to "convert" you will be an outcast because you aren't eastern european and you don't actually know shit about God

You want this thread so some orthodox faggot can stroke your dick about joining but ill give you a month tops before you stop going

westerners who go orthodox are fucking traitorous scum and whats worse your defecting because of the orthodox Sup Forums meme and you like that the patriarchs are racist xenophobes

just be a nazi and stop pretending to be religious

>converting
Are you white?
If yes, take the pagan pill.

If you are not white, all those semitic religions are perfect for you.

Might as well consider Islam because the Pope says they are pretty much the same thing.

>"It is true that the idea of conquest is inherent in the soul of Islam," he said. "However, it is also possible to interpret the objective in Matthew’s Gospel, where Jesus sends his disciples to all nations, in terms of the same idea of conquest."

>Complaining about racism on Sup Forums

Give Islam a shot bro.

Christianity religion is only on paper. No one actually practice it anymore, even if you followed one, you will be a lone druid in this world. There's no chance to meet a grill that practice.

I mean... why strong Christian grills dress like whores?

I converted and have never been happier. Our community is patriotic and typically intelligent and we don't just make up rules and then go be assholes like protestants.

It's like joining something amazing.

>pagan pill
Already happening in white culture with furries, sex orgies and the worship of food.

Think OP wants none degenerate religions.

Orthodox is interesting, and probably closer to the true Christianity in a lot of ways, but if you're an American just become a Catholic

>I mean... why strong Christian grills dress like whores?
Standards are on a constant retreat.

Don't listen to this moroni

"Heretical and schismatic"
Odd he says this, as everything orthodox has remained untainted since the time of jesus and the westerns left our church.

>paws during USSR
The orthodox church was almost whiped out and heavily regulated duringsoviety union, in Russia, but, survived everywherhe else. Now it is on the rise again and being given free will by russia.

>xenophobic/nationalist
No, the church inheritatly pushes national identity and protection of christians. There is no xenophobia, just understanding that we are different groups and must defend our nation over other groups.

Russian, greek and serbian orthodoxy are very different, russian is more depressing and "epic" if you want, in many ways.

>none degenerate religions
so you mean child abuse, mass murder, constant source of war and beeing a cuck and tool for jews is more the things he should look for? Then yes, Christianity is the best you can do then. Doesnt matter if it is Orthodox or not.

And paganism has nothing to do with orgies of any kind. Thats just the lie of the Christians who try to cover up their crimes against the pagans in Europe and Ireland.

What about Islam?

>Redpill me on Eastern Orthodox
>How does it hold up compared to Catholicism?

>be roman empire
>adopt Christianity
>split in latin (west) and greek (east), among other reason for better handling of political things
>church splits as well, ("catholic") west has pope, ("orthodox") east has patriarch
>catholic think church should be just one, and unite nations, think pope is infallible
>orthodox think church should be dealing with the problems of each state, think patriarch is glorified priest
>catholics do witch hunts, enslave people. they generally think the church should be evolving
>orthodox can't decide if icons should be a thing, get enslaved. they generally think the church should follow the canons (the bible)

sofiaglobe.com/2015/09/25/bulgarian-orthodox-church-tells-government-dont-admit-more-refugees/

pappaspost.com/greek-orthodox-churches-become-makeshift-shelters-for-refugees-on-lesvos/

the reason slavs converted is because the christians made it iligal to take christian as slaves, also the monarchy wanted better political relations with the empire
also the orthodox created the cyrilic alphabet (and glagolic), to unify slavic writing, translate the bible into it, and thus teach them
legend goes the russian monarch who converted his people to christianity only did it because everyone else was converting to an abrahamic religion for political relations, but islam didn't allow the consumption of alcohol

What if I'm asian? Join an Asian Orthodox Church?

Greekfag here

We've got alot of orthodox red pilled priests, who speak out against the new world order / freemasons etc.

But unfortunately the "leaders" of the Greek Orthodox church are freemasons

Islam is a meme religion

Islam is a abrahamtic religion and therefore nothing for white people.
At the moment you are on the winning street. But the Jews will destroy you. With the help of the stupid Christians.

Many asians are part of the Syriac church.

but the nazis/fascists were supported by the pope

Yeah brother, my church here in USA broke off from greek and was allowed to merge into the Russian church due to our refusing to give up old calender and accept "new " things

More than that. Catholic Priests ran Fascist states, such as Slovakia.

most bulgarian muslims drink alcohol, don't speak arabic, and probably eat more pork than me

I'm Chinese and didn't know what you meant. Looked up Syriac Church and found out the first Christian mission in China was led by a Syriac monk. The more you know.

>More than that.
MORE?
Is there anything more you can achieve but support the glorious National Socialism?
I dont think so. Sieg Heil!

Dont fall for the Christcucks. They are the tools of the jews.

It's more based on nationality/ethnicity.
The Eastern Orthodox are generally dominated by the Emperor/Czar/State.
Many have a wrong understanding of the Blessed Trinity (denial of filioque).
They deny the jurisdiction of the supreme pontiff (very important for the unity of the Church, as a consequence, "Orthodoxy" is not really one united Church, but a bunch of self-run, "autocephalous" churches, which are usually dominated by whoever is stronger politically, and today that means Russia).
They allow divorce and contraception.

A good side is they have preserved their ancient liturgies, which is often not the case in the western Catholic Church after Vatican II.

>It's more based on nationality/ethnicity.
also on language
>generally dominated by the Emperor/Czar/State.
priests from ours openly say on TV they want the monarchy back

don't listen to this muslim shill user
white man=christian

Old calendar priests are pretty based. In my opinion the only true Christians left on earth.

They basically represent whats Sup Forums about :
Family, religion and homeland. And they are against the jewish new world order

Much better than cucktholics

Not all Christians, Orthodox still not cucked yet... also I believe someone who believe on an idea can never lose. "Jews" are atheists actually, specially inside Israel. The real Jews are on our side actually.

For protestants... I think soon or later we will get on a conflict... those guys are the goyim slaves that Talmud talked about. Who asked to be enslaved by choice...

But being not for white people, it clearly state that it isn't for one part of people as the Abrahamic religions before... it's for everyone...

Bulgaria was really oppressing Islam to it disappeared there...

But if you know the history of Islam it disappear sometimes but get back after with an Islamic revival.

Saudi as an example, at some point they stopped worshiping God and started worshiping dead people in graves. People who were "special" in their lives.

Turkey is another example in the modern world. Even my country is... my generation is way more religious than the one before... it's a new Islamic revival going on again...

Yeah, Jesus was blonde and had blue eyes and Paul was a cuckold.

>it's a new Islamic revival going on again...
imo created by the USA, to counter the soviets. (afghanistan, bosnia, kosova, saudi, turkey, etc)
i don't think they'd keep them around for long after they balkanzie russia

White man's culture was build on christianity and we throwed up your muslim asses a couple o time out of Europe

>imo created by the USA, to counter the soviets. (afghanistan, bosnia, kosova, saudi, turkey, etc)
How can US create that. It happen in real world, in street, not in social media or by campaigns.

For US, they published a modified version of Quran years ago but it didn't worked out...

C O N S T A N T I N O P L E

For you, pic related

Deus Vult

>How can US create that
financing, sending weapons, helping radicals politically, etc

no warmongery; no dark ages ;nationalistic-the church saved our nation's identity when we were conquered by the ottomans, christians chose to literally lose their heads instead of converting to islam it also helped in our freedom uprisings against the ottoman ;redpilled,; actually follows the bible and does not make its own interpretations of it like catholics;more true to original christian practices; managed to convert african shitskins and muds without any forceful conversion; beautiful monasteries

that's orthodoxes
Catholicism is the true way

>Claiming Eurabia is yours
Rly...

The only thing that helped is internet and available books.

Who?

Orthodox were the only worthy enemy.

Well it sure as hell isn't yours, roach!

Who are you?

The only think your cunt achieved in history is trans and cuckolds. Sorry you don't worth my attention Jews' slave.

I'm on mobile, what even is your flag

I'm Catholic dumbfuck

Deus Vult

Morocco

hes morocco

>trans and cuckolds
that's atheism, on the other hand your people have some interest in goats

"Hurr durr christianity did baed stuff tho!" Compared to every single religion on the planet, Christianity has helped more scientific ventures (ie the big bang theory and bioscience) freed more cultures from destitute self destruction (see pre colonial Hindu practices of India) and has served your precious "white people" far better than heathenry and barbarism ever has (see charles martel and the reconquista)

When you have no argument you use a meme.

The meme her say white women have sex with dogs. Is it real?

And worst... reality telling me 4% of westies are not their father's son but raised as they are unknowingly. And it's frickin rising.

Reality make you wish the meme was the real one, amigo.

>The meme her say white women have sex with dogs. Is it real?
Is this really a meme in Morocco?

>being this butthurt

Are you faggots still mad that we refused to acknowledge your stupid pope leadership idea after 1000 years?

>Islam
>redpilled
>literally holding a warlord as a highest example for all to live by

Uh no thanks.

It is. Its origin is from porn in early days...

If by defending yourself after been fought and gotten out of your home make you a warlord, I am one.

That sucks then.

>meme
yeah right
liveleak.com/view?i=1fa_1378174653
>hurr western man
I don't give a fuck about them here everything is okay

cool story, thank you for sharing that

it's only between teens. Not like our adults silly enough to bla bla about such a thing...

Poland = Okay...

a country known for porn stars... glhf...

Shame about your life sucking. Don't think that makes you a philosopher

>If by defending yourself after being fought and getting kicked out of your home makes you a warlord, I am one.

Well, he did defend himself, which in those times, would be considered necessary or "just". But, what about the fact that Muhammad actually named his swords, and took war booty? Isn't that a tad unnecessary?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possessions_of_the_Islamic_prophet_Muhammad#Swords

And what about the Crusades? It wasn't just

>hurr christians did bad shit too

But it was a response to 400 years of Seljuk aggression and interruption of pilgrimages because they couldn't remotely handle the fact that other religions existed in the Middle East. Don't mean to start an argument, just want to make sense of everything.

>a country known for porn stars
what? we have like one shitty studio here and a few skanks abroad
says country known for scum that even the turkroach hates

It's very nationalistic, which is good. This does mean if you're not Greek, Russian, Serbian, etc. then you'll never fit in if you convert because you'll always be 'that Irish guy who wants to be a Slav.'

Sup Forums doesn't seem to realise this largely because they never go outside or understand how human interaction works.

so he as Irish should become catholic, even in west you will priests like this one
youtube.com/watch?v=Hakb6S0IpgY

This. Try and find a church that's more universal. As said, if you aren't Greek or Russian, you're pretty much fucked. I think OP might like Traditional Catholicism (e.g. the SSPX).

Here's a link to their website: sspx.org/en/locations

It's set to the district of the USA, so you can find traditional churches in your area. Also, it's like a go-between for both Orthodoxy and Catholicism. They have the beliefs of Catholicism (except for every Pope after Vatican II being illegitimate) and have the emphasis on tradition that Orthodoxy has. They also do mass in Latin, which was the traditional mass for 1000+ years until Vatican II.

?

Here's War in Islam 101:
>Do not fight in a war
>Until you are being attacked
>And getting out of your home

>If they did, and you gone in a war
>They should pay the cost of the war since they forced you on it

Or just how wars work today, expect you go invade a country for no reason, then make it pay in oil for it.

Scams? how?

Greek reporting. Born and raised Roman Catholic. The Orthodox priests constantly constantly constantly use Litourgy for an opportunity to condemn the world and its custom every single time I roll up to the Orthoodox Church. Pappou just passed on Friday and even then Fr used the service as an opportunity to reproach the diminishment of the father figure and his importance in Western society. I freakin' love you orthodox. Catholics very rarely have the gumption to say something meaningful. Usually hokey bullshit.

It's such a shame that we're not in communion. We need you guys.

>If they did, and you gone in a war
>They should pay the cost of the war since they forced you on it
Don't quite understand what you mean here.

One more question.
Also, what about verses like:

>"Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant. And when they listen to the revelation received by the Apostle, thou wilt see their eyes overflowing with tears, for they recognise the truth: they pray: "Our Lord! we believe; write us down among the witnesses. What cause can we have not to believe in God and the truth which has come to us, seeing that we long for our Lord to admit us to the company of the righteous?" And for this their prayer hath God rewarded them with gardens, with rivers flowing underneath,- their eternal home. Such is the recompense of those who do good. But those who reject Faith and belie our Signs,- they shall be companions of Hell-fire." S. 5:82-86

Which are quite respectful (at least to the Christians anyways), but what about the change of course in this passage, for example:

"The Religion before God is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book dissent therefrom except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of God, God is swift in calling to account." S. 3:19
"If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to God), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost (All spiritual good). S. 3:85

Can you explain this to me as well please?

I have some important family in the church. For example, I am a not-so-distant cousin of the Patriarch of Antioch.

I left the church as a rebellious teenager, but now have been going back every now and then for Vespers. I want to go back, but I'm feeling kind of ashamed, especially since I probably forgot many names of people I'll see again.

I have to say, the priest is a wonderful man. I believe Orthodox priests are generally educated in fields besides theology, and it helps that they're allowed to have families. Good, humble people. I can only speak for one church though.

I have something you can commit to, Kill yourself bitch

>I am a not so distant cousin of the Patriarch of Antioch.

Cool! Which church? Also, don't feel ashamed. I hate to be corny, but you know that Jesus cares for you because you're a child of God and guaranteed you'll be welcome back by all. Trust me.

T. Traditional Catholic

By the way, Op, I wouldn't take too seriously the warnings about joining if you're not eastern European or whatever else people were saying.

I know a great Orthodox priest who was raised a Baptist, but converted. He told me his family thought he was joining a cult lol.

Thanks, brother. I also think a lot about the story of the prodigal son and how it relates. I think I'll go read that tonight.

As for which church: Greek Orthodox

A more corrupt and shit version of the catholic church. Their priests are basically laymen (allowed to marry and have families while claiming to be speaking for god)

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_Orthodox_Church_of_Antioch

Not that other Catholic who replied, but I would ask the priest for a Confession and then enjoy communion again.

...

Man. I did confess a few things to him informally about a year ago, but I wonder if I can get by by saying, "Absolution of 15 years of sins please!"

I'll go to Vespers tomorrow and see what he thinks.

>c0ck
Despite your ID, it's inspiring to hear your brief story user

I also recommend the parable of the Pharisee and the tax collector:

To some who were confident of their own righteousness and looked down on everyone else, Jesus told this parable: 10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people—robbers, evildoers, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week and give a tenth of all I get.’

13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance. He would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘God, have mercy on me, a sinner.’

14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

I think this is a good parable to read as well, especially when you're dealing with the "holier than thou types.

T. Traditional Catholic again (phone posting).

Also, interesting

It is the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church and the fullness of the Christian faith, as well as the most traditional and ascetic. The last "Vatican 2" of the Orthodox world happened in the 8th century. There will never be female deacons or gay clergy and marriage simply because if anyone like Pope Francis wanted to make a change to the Church, they wouldn't even know where to start. There is no central office and none of the Patriarchs have any authority over another. The KBG thing is just a meme and even if it were true it would only be for the Russian Orthodox Church and not the Greek, Antiochian, or any of the other autocephalous Churches. The Roman-Catholic Church holds many heresies and is guilty of much of the liberalism and nihilism that exist in Western civilization. The Orthodox Church is opposed to globalism and even critical of the western idea of human rights.

That's beautiful. Thanks. I'll definitely look that up as well. :)

And thank you for noticing my c0ck id, brother!

Schismatic

>KGB
don't you mean FSB?