Nationalism is bs

So why do people here like nationalism? Are they really this void of any personal success or fulfillment that they need to fill themselves with a national identity instead of a personal one?

Major Flaws:
1)Makes absolute failures feel like they have value which is clearly FALSE and they dont deserve. (See worthless greek muh heritage greekfag who might have shit life but who cares, muh heritage xD)

2)Causes pointless and utterly stupid conflict where many times innocents are caught in and suffer just cuz nationality lel.(See turkey and greece, some ppl are still stupid enough to keep some animosity because their history teacher was a hateful retard). And nobody wants more arms races, peaceful competitive capitalistic societies easily develop new technologies every day because of competition, not nationalism.

3)Nepotism but for nationality edition, people hiring local people because it feels right(aka makes them feel right cuz nationalism) completely irrelevant to the skills and abilities of other non local applicants. Aka shittier products

4)And the most obvious one being how it is literally a major tool of manipulation for any country leader. By making worthless people feel valued and good, they are more likely to trust you and support you because humans are stupid and cant into thinking.


So in light of those obvious flaws, how can anyone defend nationalism without being a victim to it aka being desperate for that good feeling and not wanting to lose it? At least compared to a singular world government where skills and abilities is the only thing that matters in going UP since after all, we are all humans.


I am happy that every day people are getting more connected through the internet and see that there are less differences between each of us and feel less connected to their shitholes.

Because most countries aren't overly indebted shitholes.

considering most anti-nationalists are cucked retards dying of student debt and the inability to exist without being offended, im going to have to call you a faggot

>it's another Greek cuck thread

Pay debnts, you useless faggot.

kill yourself jew

Thanks a lot for making feel right once again by just trying to degrade me and attack me, thought it is understandable, i dont think anyone is delusional enough to try to seriously justify nationalism after it is revealed to have terrible flaws.

And of course i am happy greece is cucked, EU should have been in control from day one. Now greece is forced to not be a shithole and has to follow EU commands.

But i get it, you are too attached to your feeling good feel from nationalism and too desperate to lose it ;^)

Fucking agreed, well said.

Globalism has its flaws as well. "Multiculturalism" has come at the expense of unity and social trust. See the Putnam study.

We have taken otherwise stable and functional democratic countries and introduced the possibility of widespread political violence.

Globalized economics have allowed us to access goods at lower prices, however the western worlds economy is increasingly built on services. We no longer produce anything of value making our economies paper tigers.

Immigration has been massively profitable. Migrants in western countries are willing to work for less, driving down wages. A greater number of consumers has improved corporate profits. The rich has gotten richer and the decline of the middle classes is the consequence.

Globalism has been profitable in the short term, and greed has ensured that every dollar that can be squeezed out has been. Our generation is now left holding an empty bag.

Nationalism is a means of counteracting these growing problems.

Nationalism>>>>Globalism

I can't believe anyone bought into the globalism meme.

You still have to pay your debts Greece. Your 'countries ain't real' spiel doesn't pay the bills.

>see a cucked leftist thread
>looks flag
everything looks normal
also niggers are not humans

OP BTFO

Because nationalism is the only realistic response to globalism, the one thing that's worse.

why do all the shit tier countries(yuropoors) look down on nationalism while all the great countries(merica) consider nationalism as an important part what makes a country great?

The same modern leftists who complain about consumerism continue to push for the globalized politics that are encouraging it.

Globalism is marginalizing unique local cultures and instead replacing it with access to cheaper consumer goods.

Then combine that with a massive focus on individualism and a decline in community trust and cohesion.

The end result is that people have nothing to live for except consumerism. The only thing you now have in common with your neighbor is a mutual desire to own a better car than the other guy.

im not really nationalistic fuck belgium,, but i just feel for ma race manngg we wuz kings and shit look at us now

Because they want the freedom of movement to go somewhere that is successful. People in successful countries do not want to accept too many outsiders because they know it is damaging in the long run.

>unity
>with someone people you dont know and you shouldnt care about
Sorry, guy living next to me is as foreign as the guy living on another country, if you believe otherwise you are simply deluding yourself because you want to feel you are being supported and unified with the people around you. Aka MUH FEELINGS

On the other hand, globalism lets people connect with people who they actually have COMMON INTERESTS with instead of some pointless place they were born.

So really, not a flaw.

The very fact that 3rd world countries exist and are abused by richer countries for labour is another problem that is solved by a single world order since rules apply to everyone and everything so shitholes cant escape with having shitty work standards.

You arent talking about single world government, you are talking about the "globalization" that exists right now which is far from a single world government.

And dealing with one half problem since technically immigration doesnt exist in a single world government system doesnt seem to justify all the terrible things nationalism brings with it.

The only reason to NOT want globalism is that you are afraid that you are not skilled or capable enough to rise up to higher posts ;^)

Because technically only losers need nationalism, intelligent people are their own man ;^)

Also nice argument for the points i gave, i guess your feelings are too precious to even bother thinking.

>Greek
>degenerate sodomite

Like pottery

I think it's more national socialism that ruins most of Sup Forums. They can't look past their unscientific views. They'll support anything nat soc even if it's a stupid belief.

The contradiction here is that multiculturalism claims every culture and people is equal in worth, and then when multiculti shit hits a nation, native cultures and populations inevitably get demolished.

Nationalism is a good thing.
A good nationalist loves and treasures his country more than anyone else's but also admires various other countries and respects every other nation's existence and their right to have their culture.

He would like to trade and negotiate deals and alliances around the world that benefit his people and in the end it has a greater positive impact on humanity as a whole.

Tourism, immigration, trade, and yes also war will still occur but it helps people preserve their sense of identity, and any psychologist will tell you how important that is.

I think this shoop has and forever will illustrate why nationalism is important.

Nationalism is preferable to unchecked globalism. Some people shouldn't be let in your borders.

>Dirty Greek fuck mad that other people actually have countries to be proud of while his is an indebted shit hole that's falling apart
:^)

Go to sleep Greece

Only read the first line, guessing you're libertarian or ancap.

Let me first say that national and personal identity are not mutually exclusive products.

Let me then say, lurk more and grow up you pot smoking faggot.

>globalism
>borders
What are you talking about?

Everyone is equal and everyone is under the government's rules.

Only your abilities matter.


Oh wait, you are too scared someone else from another place is better than you since globalism is literally the definition of whoever is the most skilled is the ones who gets higher ;^)

>national identity
>anything to do with who you are and your likes
>says that in the glorious year of 2016 where kids spend more time on the internet than outside
Woah much delusions xD

Identity gives our lives meaning. A shared identity fosters trust and empowers us to tackle larger problems than we could as individuals. It allows us to make our own political decisions, those that best befit our culture.
Globalism based on a lie, the Leftist lie that we are all the same. We are not the same, and there is nothing wrong with that.
Even the U.S. is too big. It is no wonder the average citizen feels socially alienated and politically powerless.

>globalism lets people connect with people who they actually have COMMON INTERESTS with instead of some pointless place they were born.

Globalism opens the doors for consolidation of power out of the hands of average people even more so than it already is. If you're honestly suggesting that a single world government is a good thing then you believe in the "nationalism" you criticize, only take it one step further. Why should all of humanity be subjected to existing as one culture?

>Sorry, guy living next to me is as foreign as the guy living on another country

So what you're saying is that you don't understand simple biological concepts. Got it.

1.3 Billion muslim fucks that need to be exterminated.

Yeah, I don't feel like open borders is a good deal. Too bad Greece will probably pay it's debts back by being a refugee holding tank.

you gotta learn man.

>Sorry, guy living next to me is as foreign as the guy living on another country

That is exactly my point. That is the consequence of globalism.

>The only reason to NOT want globalism is that you are afraid that you are not skilled or capable enough to rise up to higher posts.

Your assumption that I am viewing this from my perspective only as an individual again is one of the problems I have already identified. Whether or not I individually will fare better is irrelevant, maybe I will find a higher paying job, but maybe my kids will not.

>terrible things nationalism brings with it
If you look at the history of conflict in the 20th century an awful lot of it is a product of a collision between nationalism and globalism. The Yugoslav republic collapsed in the bloodiest war since WW2 and no doubt you blame that on people allying themselves with their national identities. Remember it was globalism that brought those different nationalities into close contact creating the friction.

Both globalism and nationalism had an equal responsibility in the major conflicts of the 20th century. You only choose to see one side of the equation.

>Sorry, guy living next to me is as foreign as the guy living on another country, if you believe otherwise you are simply deluding yourself because you want to feel you are being supported and unified with the people around you. Aka MUH FEELINGS

So can the guy in the other country give you some extra food if you are in pinch? Can he help you with car problems? Can he watch your kids?

In theory he could, but it is so incredibly impractical that it might as well be impossible. People who are our neighbors are more connected to us because of proximity and similar values. This isn't just "muh feelings", but an observable effect.
>On the other hand, globalism lets people connect with people who they actually have COMMON INTERESTS with instead of some pointless place they were born.

But how will someone on the other side of the globe connect with you? Via the internet? That is hardly a significant or useful connection and it is about the same connection we have here.

You also don't seem to understand that nationalities affect values and values make it easier to connect. Similar tastes in music, food, entertainment, spiritual beliefs, and political beliefs are all heavily affected by nationalities.
>So really, not a flaw.
>The very fact that 3rd world countries exist and are abused by richer countries for labour is another problem that is solved by a single world order since rules apply to everyone and everything so shitholes cant escape with having shitty work standards.

1/2

>You arent talking about single world government, you are talking about the "globalization" that exists right now which is far from a single world government.

The current structure of things (west being wealthier and having higher standards of living) wouldn't change overnight and in the west, due to the flooding immigrants there would be chaos.

>And dealing with one half problem since technically immigration doesnt exist in a single world government system doesnt seem to justify all the terrible things nationalism brings with it.

What terrible things?
>The only reason to NOT want globalism is that you are afraid that you are not skilled or capable enough to rise up to higher posts ;^)
How many seats are there in higher positions? The morally correct government the one that ensures the highest standard or living for its citizens

Go live by your self in Antarctica you disgusting individualist.

>Why should all of humanity be subjected to existing as one culture?
Because it healthy, causes less conflict, people are happier due to more common interests and a lot more.

What you are doing right now, is defending those 4 things i said in the OP just because it makes you feel good and dont want to lose your identity which is YOUR FAULT for connecting yourself to it in the first place.

>consolidation of power to few people
>it is better to have random idiotic countries consolidate power for each other and cause pain and suffering by having conflicts on all of their borders and people while also being culturally different and thus cause more damage

>So what you're saying is that you don't understand simple biological concepts. Got it.
Oh i am perfectly understanding it.
1)Connect yourself with people with common interests
vs
2)connect yourself with people who might not have common interests or likes but lel they are from the same ground and that totally makes us friends

Sorry, one is the retard choice that should be removed

>implying stupid religious people matter
They are gonna stay at the bottom, just like the people who are too afraid and not skilled or smart enough to climb up the ranks ;^)

YOu have more in common with those muslims than you think Sup Forumsack

OP name one example of a successful multicultural country.

>That is exactly my point. That is the consequence of globalism.
And nothing wrong with that.

People should get together because of common interests and character, NOTHING else

>maybe my kids will not.
So it is about your emotional feelings for your kids?

Because your kids, even if autistic or utterly worthless deserve more than a skilled person right????
Thanks for proving how hypocritical you people can be.

The only way one can deserve something is because he earned it by his skill, not because of nationalism or nepotism.

And i am talking about actual single world government globalism, not the current "globalism" where a fuckton of shitholes still cling to their "muh national identity" faggotry

>So can the guy in the other country give you some extra food if you are in pinch? Can he help you with car problems? Can he watch your kids?
We have money for those things, you hire people.

Unless you are such a cheapstake that you want to get people to do shit free for you so i really cant see this as a valid argument, i am not talking about people to use, i am talking people having perosnal connection with more deserving people due to similarities instead of muh ground i was born

>You also don't seem to understand that nationalities affect values and values make it easier to connect. Similar tastes in music, food, entertainment, spiritual beliefs, and political beliefs are all heavily affected by nationalities.
Doesnt mean it is right, it is actually similar to brainwashing really, it isnt a real connection because these people are cucked by their countries instead of being themselves.

>people are happier due to more common interests and a lot more
>causes less conflict

Keeping people with common interests and values in close proximity results in people being happier. Hence nationalism.

america, because that is multicultural, ONE culture

>unity
>with someone people you dont know and you shouldnt care about
NO YOU FUCK, UNITY WITH THE PEOPLE OF YOUR ETHNIC/NATIONAL HERITAGE, PEOPLE WHO'S ANCESTORS LIVED AND COHABITATED WITH YOUR ANCESTORS, YOUR COUSINS.

>>consolidation of power to few people
>>it is better to have random idiotic countries consolidate power for each other and cause pain and suffering by having conflicts on all of their borders and people while also being culturally different and thus cause more damage
Who are you quoting?

By ensuring competition between countries, it allows accountability. If a country is so incredibly terrible that the people want to leave and find new governance they can, even if it is impractical or requires the emigrant to change their culture and nationality.

You seem to want a government with a monopoly while viewing people having limited competition as bad. Is competition good or bad? If it is good then nationalism allows governments to compete. If competition is bad, then why should people compete with each other? Wouldn't nationalism also be the better choice since it limits competition among individuals?

What if people who have common interests decide to work together and form a nation? Which is what happened over centuries in Europe after Rome fell and there was a vacuum.

Nationalism has the flaws i said in the OP.

So why not change it to pure single world government system where people will not have to deal with stupid cultural or national conflicts and will truly like whoever they like instead of being forced to like the people who just happen to be around them.

Nobody gives a shit about ancestors m80, they can go kill themselves because i am looking out for MY life and MY future

What you are thinking of is MONOcultural. Multicultural would be many cultures working with one another such as looking at the whole of Africa or India (There are rather few multicultural places that don't consolidate into nations over time)

monocultural is the result of a multicultural society after a lot of time.

>competition between countries
way easier to have people be competitive by themselves because they strive for success

Nationalism is bad because even if it might do a couple positive things, they are completely outweighed by the major problems it brings aka see the OP.

And problems that dont even exist in a single cultural world government.

>What if people who have common interests decide to work together and form a nation? W
Because it is utterly stupid since like it has been proven, people in time will lose connection to ancestors and not give a shit.

So their initial goal to make a country for people like them would fail due to corruption within time making the whole act kinda stupid.

Op is just an edgy, idealistic teenager. Using logic, facts, and reasoning with him is pointless, as he'll just reply with snark.

>Oh i am perfectly understanding it.
>1)Connect yourself with people with common interests
>vs
>2)connect yourself with people who might not have common interests or likes but lel they are from the same ground and that totally makes us friends

No one said anything about this "common interests" crap you keep rambling on about. It has nothing to do with "being on the same ground", but everything to do with genetics, which compose far more of a person and their personality than you will ever be able to admit. Take yourself for example, Greece used to be a land filled with the most intelligent people of their era, but then it was flooded with shitskins and that's why posts as stupid as yours are coming out of Greece.

As for globalism "being healthy" because it causes less conflicts, conflict is GOOD, if there are just reasons for one side going at the other. Its what allows good ideas to trump bad ideas, and how humanity as a whole progresses. You'd seemingly be one of those loyalist faggots during the American revolution, saying "Hey guys, it would be better if we all stayed as one nation, we don't want any unnecessary conflict, and we can all get along on our common interests. Meanwhile you're getting fucked in the ass by unchecked, absolute power (I.E. exactly what a single world government would look like, except on an even larger and more intimidating scale) and the good ideas of the American revolution never come into fruition.

You're also strawmaning the fuck out of every single person you respond to. I never defended the strawmans written in your OP, in fact I'm also opposed to nationalism, the difference between you and I being that I think we should head even further in the opposite direction of globalism, not towards it.

Tldr; enjoy the rest of your senior year in HS.

It's a challenge of the modern era. Without nationalism there will be no separate cultures. There will really be no culture. Everything will look like a lower middle-class American suburb, everywhere in the world. There will be no competition or variation of lifestyle or values. The problems of monopoly will apply, but in terms of culture.

With nationalism, there will be wars. In the modern era, a single war could destroy all of humanity. That's why there's been such a big push against nationalism for the past 50 years.

With communications as they are, maybe it's impossible to avoid the combination of all cultures into a single one if not very soon, at least within the next few hundred years. That's the big problem I see with nationalism, it just doesn't seem possible considering technology.

> i am looking out for MY life and MY future

Again you place individualism above any form of loyalty. Also you seem to think that an individual is as strong as a unified group.

You were clearly raised in a bad environment and resent your family. Otherwise you would see loyalty to them as valuable.

Also your view that individual merit is more valuable than team unity suggests you are a social reject.

I guess you never had a chance.

>1)Makes absolute failures feel like they have value which is clearly FALSE and they dont deserve. (See worthless greek muh heritage greekfag who might have shit life but who cares, muh heritage xD)

It is a good thing for people to have positive self-esteem. One of the few observable benefits of psychology is self-esteem. If someone has good self-esteem, wherever the basis is, they are less likely to engage in risky behaviors such as unprotected sex, drug use, and suicidal idealization.
>2)Causes pointless and utterly stupid conflict where many times innocents are caught in and suffer just cuz nationality lel.(See turkey and greece, some ppl are still stupid enough to keep some animosity because their history teacher was a hateful retard). And nobody wants more arms races, peaceful competitive capitalistic societies easily develop new technologies every day because of competition, not nationalism.

Nationalism has long been a catalyst for competition, not a hindrance because of its tendencies for armed conflict which end up saving more lives than thought possible (Penicillin, cold war space race)

Globalism is the thing that kills competition by not giving anything to compete over.
>3)Nepotism but for nationality edition, people hiring local people because it feels right(aka makes them feel right cuz nationalism) completely irrelevant to the skills and abilities of other non local applicants. Aka shittier products

It is beneficial to hire and buy local because the money spent stays within the community for future investment. Such things allow individuals to rise to prominence
>4)And the most obvious one being how it is literally a major tool of manipulation for any country leader. By making worthless people feel valued and good, they are more likely to trust you and support you because humans are stupid and cant into thinking.

Why is trust a bad thing? Isn't having some shred of confidence in your leaders a good thing?

tl;dr you're a fag

>Makes absolute failures feel like they have value which is clearly FALSE and they dont deserve.
And I suppose you get to judge who is and isn't a failure, huh? Typical
>Causes pointless and utterly stupid conflict
These conflicts can lead to innovations and revolutions in industry and technology. That doesn't seem pointless or stupid. 'you have to break a few eggs to make an omlete'.
>Nepotism but for nationality edition, people hiring local people
Loyalty to your community is a good thing. It help gain favor with your neighbors in case of crisis.
>And the most obvious one being how it is literally a major tool of manipulation for any country leader
But isn't this also true of the elites pushing for a one world govt? They are using you as their tool, a useful idiot, to push things don't understand.

I would also like to point out you called people failures, irrelevant, worthless, who live in shitholes. Your bias is showing.
Also, by definition, individuality and equality are mutually exclusive. Seeing as how we are a planet of 7.3n individuals, what does this tell us about equality?

Well it has more to do
>This causes problems and has flaws
>How about we completely change it for something superior
You know, instead of trying to argue that "this is fine".

Obviously completely from a theoretical standpoint since such a process takes ages

>MUH GENETICS
sorry, i am more into discussion and open mindness instead of "absolute things that rule your life while you have no choice"

Not a cuck to be into that :\

Conflict is bad, a mono culture has less conflict, people live better as long as they are skilled and competition between companies leads science to go forward.

But i guess science isnt as pretty as big bad nuclear warheads that make you feel strong and powerful right ;^)

>(I.E. exactly what a single world government would look like
Why would a government that has organized everything start using fear and intimidation to control the masses even though it has been proven that it only leads to its eventual collapse?

The government needs the people to be good just like the people need the government.

>i am opposed to nationalism
>but i support nationalism

>loyalty
>family
You do realize those are more about emotion and less about logic right?

Because it is NORMAL to feel that way doesnt mean it is right or good :P

Team unity is good when it gets together for a goal, not ebcause it is lumped together because they are the closest people nearby

>it is good to people to have delusions which lead to false confidence and can even hurt others because of it because they think they are superior

>Peace totally doesnt progress science because science is all about weapons and stuff and right now there is no research done other than military research. No competition or science departments around the world at all

>It is beneficial to hire your autistic worthless son instead of actually someone who will provide quality service

>leaders are good, totally not sociopaths and i believe them

I'm a nationalist because my country isn't garbage like Greece (despite its many problems).

Resisting ad hominem(you're a fag btw) whoops...
Anyways,
Nationalism doesn't encourage you to ride on the coat tails of muh heritage. Nationalism is the idea to homogenize the beliefs of people within a region to attain an effective workforce through unity. The perks of nationalism include: resistance to cultural invasion(from cultures with undesirable traits/principals), vigorous anti-corruption, a government that respects it's people as much as the people respect its government.
I'll grant that nationalism blurs the line when it comes to determining if the government reflects the people or if the people reflect the reigning government.

Ultimately national socialism teaches you that foreign influences are not always good, cultures need room to breathe, and that the individual's standard of living rests solely on the effectiveness+ efficiency of that society(which is thanks to homogenous principals)
I don't understand why lefties hate national socialism, it's basically as commie as it gets without bending over backwards for impractical standards of equality or copious amounts of hedonism+ vanity.
It literally teaches you that the whole is more important than one individual, and all individuals should realize this one truth. So that they may strive to help one another and preserve the principals that guide their flourishing society.

You just sound like someone who's butt hurt about national socialism and have not read too much into it.

Oh and people are insanely different. I'm pretty sure that's the only thing the Internet really teaches.
People are driven by the same needs, but their decision making is based on wildly differing principals.

You should probably look into both sides of national socialism before stating your feels. Your feels only prevent you from looking at things in a bias way.
Also, all of those examples you gave are shit-tier national socialism. You should look into what hitler's dream for Germany was. It was pretty spectacular.

Loyalty to your family is entirely a matter of logic.Unless you want to live your life banging rocks together and eating berries we need other people, we cooperate and fare better as a result.

The relationship with the family can be thought of as a kind of insurance where people watch out for, and help each other for mutual benefit.

Provided it is a two-way street loyalty is entirely beneficial.

>family
You know you can always get a partner for that right? Why waste time with babies

>>it is good to people to have delusions which lead to false confidence and can even hurt others because of it because they think they are superior

What type of delusions ? How do they hurt people?

Also the phrase "fake it until you make it" is very true. People who believe they are a good person, or at least can do good things, are significantly more likely to do so.

>>Peace totally doesnt progress science because science is all about weapons and stuff and right now there is no research done other than military research. No competition or science departments around the world at all

Who are ye quoting?

War leads to more developments than peace yes. Although peace does lead to some progress, it is not nearly as quick. Europe dominated the world due to their propensity for conflict with each other that developed technologies that gave them an edge such as, advanced naval techniques, improved food preservation, understanding logistics for travel, medicine so soldiers don't die. The fact that Europe, a nationalistic area with some traces of overarching cultural values left in the wake of Rome's fall, is empirical evidence of the value of war and nationalism.

>>It is beneficial to hire your autistic worthless son instead of actually someone who will provide quality service

Who are you quoting?
>>leaders are good, totally not sociopaths and i believe them

Actually because there isn't a 1-world government I can choose the government I wish to live under for the most part. So if I don't trust my leaders, I don't have to stay under them.

You would have to believe in leaders being pathologically good to argue for a 1-world government because of how they could treat everyone as replaceable fodder.

>quoting someone
>using words and arguments that the person you quoted never used
>not killing yourself for being retarded
This is the juvenile mind of a libertarian.

Exactly, that you for pointing out how selfish you are.
What about MY future? What if I don't want a one world government.
You liberals are also so fucking self centered with the Me me me me bullshit, it's nauseating.
So what if the current nationalist structure isn't perfect, exactly what are you basing your one world government views off?
Oh wait, nothing, because it's never been done. Just a fantasy.
How are you SO sure it'll work?
Also, what happens when if a comoletly incompetent leader gets in? What exactly are the ground rules for this idea of yours?
So far all I've really seen out of you is,

>durrr no wars because no nations so why war
>hurp I can have so many friends because all one world
>hurrr durrr what are you scared of competing with the world lel.

I'm sure you sniff your farts in the morning with all that smug. You probably think you're the smartest person on the planet.

>everyone is equal
no, no they are not. Why not put full blown retards in charge of putting together rockets and space shuttles? Because they are not equal to the people who have the capacity to do it.

I mean, you out out quite a fantasy but you have zero evidence of it working.
Maybe on your next DMT trip, you can find this fantasy world and explain to us HOW IT WORKS.
And spare us the hippie hugging bullshit.
Worlds not fair, deal with it.

>What about MY future?
Are you skilled and smart?

Then you will succeed, if not then you simply arent worth it.

wow Sup Forums was completely BTFO out on this one, someone should screencap this thread and post it everyday on this bigoted board!

I'd tell you to read the thread but I realized you're from Portugal.

What an eloquent post. Bravo

i don't use nationalism to fill some void in my life. i just think it is a better alternative to globalism. a nation that doesn't put it's own interests first is bound to fail.

>only losers need nationalism
By that logic the Greeks should be ardent nationalists

Nationalism is more democratic than globalism. The people have less say in their own communities the bigger, more bloated and inefficient a government becomes. We should strive to decentralize government if we believe in the principle of democracy at all, not try to make it more top-heavy for the sake of bureaucratic control freaks who crave more power at your expense. I believe people know best how to run their own lives, and they are more free to do so when there is less government.

>Are they really this void of any personal success or fulfillment that they need to fill themselves with a national identity instead of a personal one?

Nationalism is an expectation of greatness, not an excuse me mediocrity.

Greek used to be great, now look at you, you debt ridden whore, you should expect better of yourself, that is Nationalism.

excuse for*

We need alternatives too. Self-determination is fundamental to democracy. One-world government offers no alternative for those who don't feel that the government represents them (and it most likely wouldn't, being so far removed from local communities) and who want to form their own sovereign communities. Nationalism offers at least some room for sovereign diversity and self-determination for sizable groups who share common values.

>competition between companies

Some companies already have more power and resources than some nations. The future might not be countries competing for power and position, but large companies. No countries, just companies, with everything facilitated by a one world government that the largest of the large companies control.

Not the best, but enough of both to have carved out a good life for myself. But I wouldn't be so arrogant to think I would automatically be fine because I am now if we were to implement it.
So it seems as if you've put a lot of thought into this, so let me ask you.

>How do you know if will work (from what I've seen you haven't answered that
>What are some one world policies
>How do you tax the people in mid huts (or would there just be a culling, in which case, your theory loses its ploish of niceness and equality
>Who runs the world (I guess you could say that since it's a one world government.
>How does one become the established leader of the world.
and
>How to you make people comply
This is the part of your theory that scares me, it's almost as if you expect that everyone (or at least most) will welcome it with open arms.
Contrary to popular belief and "mainstream" culture. I don't think everyone would blindly walk into this thinking it's going to work, aside from retards on Facebook and current college campuses.
I think the majority of us don't want this, but people on your side have a higher online presence then us since we have shit to do other than post about how cool things would be if everything was equal.

I wouldn't say BTFO, but they certainly are holding up.
Most of their posts are strawmen and barrel rolls. There are too many fundamental questions in regards to a one world system that they just can't answer. A lot of posts should have btfod the Op, but read above
>strawmen
>barrel roll
>mental gymnastics

OP's points are flawed to begin with, in my opinion. The manipulation and nepotism would absolutely be amplified under a globalist system. It would have to be because a larger, more convoluted bureaucratic system would be required to run it, and the oversight of such a top-heavy system would be inefficient.

Real world example: The European Union.

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Just a protip, don't add "in my opinion" to things. It makes your points sound weaker.

Also it is redundant. Who else's opinion could you argue from?