Anarcho-capitalism Thread

ITT we talk about Anarcho-capitalism.

Anarcho-capitalism is a political philosophy that advocates the elimination of the state in favor of individual sovereignty, private property, and free markets.

Wiki:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarcho-capitalism

FAQ:
ozarkia.net/bill/anarchism/faq.html

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Careful son, you'll cut yourself on that edge.

>horde water
>charge retarded amount
>kill on sight while citing non-aggression
Fails for the same reason communism does, kiddo.

I like anarcho-capitalism in theory. I'm just skeptical as to how it could be implemented. Perhaps we could work to deregulate everything and slowly work our way towards abolishing the state entirely.

It's just feudalism

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If parents would start spanking their children properly we could move towards a minarchist or anarchist type system. Government was infinitesimally smaller when parents employed strict corporal punishment against unruly children.

Now children are bootlicking statist cunts who worship the State and crave socialism because they were never taught proper discipline or fealty to the family first.

Anti-spanking = Statist Indoctrination

>Literally the most common thing on Earth
>there are now devices that pull moisture out of the air, producing 5-6 gallons of water a day

Kill yourself

>water
>food
>air
anything fits. Without a state, there's nothing stopping me from stealing IP.

Peasants can't tell kings no.
You can leave a voluntary contract any time you want.
You're dumb as shit and you should feel bad

Nope

Contracts are contracts. You are obligated to follow them until they expire otherwise there are legal problems

Government was infinitesimally smaller because people were much less connected to eachother than they are now. cities and townships were much more independent, however, we have the internet now, and thus, must have a government that enforces laws across multiple jurisdictions.

>How is this ideology going to hold itself together? How is it going to prevent itself from reverting back to statism? The answer is simple; it will not. The anarcho-capitalists believe that with the economy dominated by the totally free market, the discipline of this market will prevent a state from forming, even in the long term. This, bluntly put, does not make any sense, not from a misunderstanding on my part, but from a true logical inconsistency. Where there is a free market, there is the ability for social classes to form, no anarcho-capitalist would disagree with this statement. Anarcho-capitalism is a politically decentralized system, with social classes and the ability for the lower classes to labor for the upper classes in exchange for a good or any seemingly agreed upon payment. What the anarcho-capitalists do not realize is that this ideology already existed, and already failed, it was called feudalism. Anarcho-capitalism would eventually revert to a form of oligarchical feudalism. Feudalism is “the system of political organization prevailing in Europe from the 9th to about the 15th centuries having at its basis the relation of lord to vassal with all land held in fee and as chief characteristics of homage, the service of tenants under arms and in court, wardship, and forfeiture”

>air is even more common than air
>food is fucking everywhere

>First, the relation between lords, vassals, and serfs. In modern society, the class distinctions are no different, and therefore will be no different in anarcho-capitalism. The upper class being the lords and vassals, and the serfs being the lower (working) class. The first two are understandable, the rich in anarcho-capitalism will be similar to the lords and vassals of feudalism, because they will be at the top of the chain in this society, just like the lords and vassals of feudalism. The serfs being the proletariat may not make sense on first thought. The proletariat in an anarcho-capitalist society, first and foremost, will have to exist. Capitalism cannot exist without two things, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie, the bourgeoisie is there to create the businesses and the proletariat is there to work at the businesses; not everyone can own a business, this should go without saying. The proletariat in an anarcho-capitalist society will be tied to the land they are on, economically forced to stay in one place, under one noble, for centuries. This is due to the drawbacks of an absolute free market (something anarcho-capitalists tend to ignore). For starters, moving costs money in capitalism, this much is understandable. With the absence of government in capitalism, as said above, there will be no minimum wage laws. Workers can be paid pennies by their employers and there is very little, if not nothing, that can be done about it. They will not be able to move, as they are spending their hard earned money on survival.

Property is a construction of the state. Without a state enforcing contracts, your "property" is just what you can physically stop others from taking

>“If the workers do not like their pay, why don’t they go find another job?” A proletarian will not be able to just find a different job because it should be infer-able that if one employer is paying his workers pennies, they will all be paying their workers pennies. In owning a business the goal is, and all capitalists agree, for the business owner to make a profit. It is not that in the absence of labor laws very few employers will treat their workers immorally, follow the thought to conclusion, none will provide humanitarian conditions to their workers as their profit would increase if they did not have to offer their workers minimum wage, or insurance, or sick leave, or anything else. The proletarian will be tied not only to the land he is working on, but the capitalist he is working for. Anarcho-capitalism is at it’s very core a set up for feudalism to reoccur. What is the problem with feudalism? It has been explained that it pays absolutely no mind to the lower classes. Where feudalism seems fair to the upper classes, there is nothing in feudalism that is good for the serfs. Paying mind only to those who have more than others is not a free system, rather a set-up for total slavery. Considering the only part of anarcho-capitalism that does not fit the definition of feudalism is the very first part of the definition, “system of political organization prevailing in Europe from the 9th to about the 15th centuries”, mostly because of the specific time period applied to feudalism, it is fair that a movement should be started to formally rename anarcho-capitalism to “neo-feudalism”, as it should have been called originally, in the very first place.

Ever heard of the Rat Utopia Experiment?

That's what happens when numbers increase but have a population too stupid to adhere to strict discipline.

The Rat Utopia Experiment ended in degeneration and disaster because rats can't spank, can't use corporal punishment to train their young to resist degeneracy,

theres nothing wrong with this picture

Not really, you wouldn't have a manorial system, wage labour would be all encompassing, private property and land would be protected, people could move around at will for work rather than being bonded to a certain location, money would be a means of exchange rather than barter.

I'm not an an-cap but it's clearly very different to feudalism.

you must fantasize about being a serf

the land owners can implement any system they want

It's THEIR LAND

>In an unpublished article written by Murray Rothbard for the periodical Faith and Freedom, he somewhat redeems himself, and says that anarcho-capitalists simply are not anarchist for a variety of reasons. He finishes his article with “We must therefore conlude that we are not anarchists, and those who call us anarchists are not being on firm etymological ground, and are being completely unhistorical” (Rothbard, Libertarians).Where Murray Rothbard seemingly redeems himself, other anarcho-capitalists do not. Rothbard is correct. Anarcho-capitalists are, in fact, not anarchists; the “anarcho”-capitalists should follow their leader, as they are clearly content with having one.

I would be a king, faggot.

Lol, sure you would

WE

this reality is ruled by force.
if some has more force than you, they are your master, whether you like it or not
fucking hippie.

Without any systems in place to perpetuate its own existence it will inevitably end up morphing into some other social structure.

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This is actually the most reasonable theory I have heard in a while.

t. mexican intellectual

Thats true. But humans are rational beings. Its why civilization was developed. Eventually people realized that coorperating and trading with each was more productive than continually attacking each other. Its what enabled cities to form.

What ancap ultimately is, is a network of agreements between individuals to cooperate rather than fight. These agreements can grow complex enough to evolve into an organic legal system that reflects the nature of the agreements in the network.


Thats why ancaps are opposed to the state. It is a monopoly of violence that destorys organic nature of a rational human's preference for trade and cooperation instead of constant violence.

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pic related: it's anarcho shitters like you who think this fairy tale bullshit would ever work

stick to playing fallout 4 you fucking idiots

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"People are so naturally corruptable that freedom of association is an unstable idea thats why if we get rid of markets people will the state will figure out how to use central planning to magically defy the laws of economics.

Then we will have a percectly eglitarian society without any oppression and we won't need pesky things like markets to efficiently cycle through the trials of civilization"

t. retarded feudalist

>eglitarian society
>feudalism
>egalitarian

KEK
EKE
KEK

Nah. Those are the kids that turn into liberal cucks. They are so far out of the sphere of fornicating humans that they will eventually degenerate to white knight beta males.

The only exeption is the kid in the yellow cutoff. He clearly will have an alpha future because he has a strong male figure in his life that makes cutoffs look cool. That kid won't be a liberal cuck and is likely the only one that would have a chance of adopting red pilled ideals

How are courts handled in anarcho-capitalist place?

hopefully you have cancer.

>kek liberals are so dumb with their silly fantasies
>in MY fantasy utopia government will magically not exist though

>anarcho anything

leave retard

kek you're funny.

Im just pointing out that the steorotype of ancaps as beta fedora cucks is retarded.

At the very least a requirement of being a right wing male is that you understand masculine values and reject leftist cuckery. That something the faggots in the fedoras will never be able to do

why is it always a leaf?

Yes look at how masculine ancaps are

you can only collect the water that is on your property (unless contracted with someone else) you dumb nigger

The Austrian/Rothbard school of ancaps are pretty funny really.

They all try to be Rothbard incarnate.

THE ONLY BUSINESS OF THE STATE IS TO FORCIBLY REMOVE LEFTISTS AND CRONYS FROM OUR SOCIETY

THEN AND ONLY THEN WILL A GIVEN COUNTRY BE ABLE TO PROGRESS TOWARDS TRUE LIBERTARIANISM

>hurr we will keep leftists and immigrats out without a functioning system

I dont understand why people equate fuedalism to ancap. Fuedalists extracted taxes and held a monopoly on law via violence. It clearly is not what ancaps are advocating for

In Ancapistsn you dont have to accept degernate leftists into your community because there will be no state enforcing leftist will and PC culture. If everyone in your community rejects degenerate cultures they cannot join because there won't be a state to siphon resources to them.

read the thread

In ancapistan you will have to do what the monarch wants

if he wants leftists he'll bring in leftists

That's how the jews came to Europe in the first place, the lords brought them in.

I saw this shit and its irrelevant for exactly what I said. You need to read the fucking thread senpai.

The monarch extracts tax and enforces his monopolized legal system via centralized violence. This is literally what ancaps are trying to gdt rid of

read the rest of the thread