Why was Yugoslavia the only Communist country with a rich and good music scene? Alternatively, why were other communist countries lacking in the music department?
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Why was Yugoslavia the only Communist country with a rich and good music scene? Alternatively...
Dominic Myers
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Tyler Ross
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Michael Baker
slav vaporwave? hell fucking YESSSSSSSSS
Asher Torres
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Ryan Anderson
Get the fuck out faggot. This is good music. Tie a fucking rope around your neck you piece of piss. I sincerely hope you die for derailing an actually interesting music thread that isn't le death grips meme. I hope to wake up to the headlines tomorrow seeing some guy killed himself over a Sup Forums Sup Forums post.
Kayden Sanchez
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Jacob Sanders
Disciplina Kičme, I'm impressed. Some of the most revered bands in Ex-Yu.
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Haustor too. One of the most consistently creative bands.
Eli Hall
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Isaac Martinez
i honestly want you dead dude. and your parents too.
Liam Walker
A couple of jazz fusion, progressive rock bands:
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Kayden Kelly
>the only Communist country with a rich and good music scene
oh fuck off with your stupid exaggerations.
yugoslav music was irrelevant in comparison with the ussr
name at least one significant yugoslav composer
Angel Hernandez
>Alternatively, why were other communist countries lacking in the music department?
not true btw
Charles Thomas
Just stop. Some of us are actually trying to have a discussion and not a shitposting rampage.
Kevin Kelly
Yugoslavia was one of the only independent communist countries. They split from Russia and weren't under Chinese influence. That was probably a factor, bringing them closer to the west.
Gavin Torres
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Connor Thompson
Poland had a pretty good scene as well
Brayden Smith
no.
Aaron Clark
dude this isliteral vaporwave 30 years early
Eli Williams
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Brody Lewis
if youre not going to post music leave
Jaxon Moore
...
Eli Richardson
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Aiden Jones
>homophobia
Nazi punks fuck off!
Nolan Sullivan
dude what
Eli Roberts
...
Hudson Murphy
Anti-Communist OP
Homophobic and violent inciting posts ITT
Fuck you fascists.
Nathaniel Cooper
Collegium Musicum was a pretty GOAT-tier band from Czechoslovakia
Brandon Reyes
>anti communist
this is bad? i thought it was called being a normal person
This is fucking dank.
Logan Ross
how many layers of irony are you guys on
Benjamin Watson
there is no irony, bud
fuck off back to
Jayden Bell
But Yugoslavia wasn't even Communist, it was state capitalist like all """communist""" countries
Brody Taylor
>LARPing this hard
Leo Smith
Stop discussing politics and let's salvage this thread.
Michael Cook
>Want to discuss cool slav music
>Go back to pol
>Fucking fascists
Guys we don't have to be this way.
I'm interested in Balkan folk music. What can you guys recommend me?
Jackson Kelly
Homophobic and violent inciting posts ITT
Anti-Communist OP
maybe start your post without Sup Forums content next time
Fuck you fascists.
Angel Wright
>name at least one significant yugoslav composer
roki vulovic
Jordan Ortiz
>Stop discussing politics and let's salvage this thread.
>Homophobic and violent inciting posts ITT
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Oliver Wood
Well Soviet Latvia had some pretty good synthpop.
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Also in the 90s Tornis was an independent label in Latvia. It ended in 2010. It had some good bands, altrough it was all recorded pretty lofi.
Check this channel out if you're interested in Latvian underground.
Xavier Morgan
literally who
it still counts as ussr, you know
Jose Collins
Every fucking time.
Not everything is fucking black and white.
Stop being a control fucking freak.
Joseph Gray
Communism doesn't allow critical thinking and self expression. That's why.
Gabriel Sanchez
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Listen it. This from USSR.
Lucas Allen
because music requires individuals to stand out
Levi Ramirez
>it still counts as ussr, you know
yeah, I live there.
is that a good thing or a bad thing for you? the ussr part not the part that I live there.
Jayden Gomez
wat?
I mean, it counted as ussr when it was ussr, lol
Andrew Ortiz
How music like this was able to get behind soviet censorship though?
Jayden Parker
>1988
huh, it had two years left
Julian Martin
Brandon Perez
thanks
John Baker
It was underground and you seriously underestimate how hated were commies
also in this case in 1988 everyone knew it will collapse soon
They didnt know that there will be some moron faggots that are worshipping that retarded system even after it have fallen
Gavin Jones
>make communism one of the central aspects of the OP
>WAAA! Why is everybody arguing about politics!?
Are you retarded?
The thread was beyond salvation as soon as OP clicked on Post.
Justin Parker
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guess who wrote strangers in the night
Tyler Cook
You pretend to be a commie one day and then an ancap the other what are you dude
Juan Williams
I have never been an ancap nor a commie, I'm not retarded, sorry.
Nathaniel Robinson
The thread kind of shatters the whole "communist countries were all cultural wastelands" premise that you and people like you love to repeat so often so not really.
Brody Moore
Culture of communist country almost entirely focuses on hating communism
Isaiah White
No, this thread is the actual proof of the whole thing. Just because they were cultural wastelands doesn't mean there were not some exceptions (because that's what they are, exceptions).
Asher Torres
>some exceptions
...which in turn disprove the whole original argument. Try to keep up.
Parker Myers
T. Cuck
Juan Gomez
It didn't. It spread through Magnitizdat. This was sort of illegal.
Benjamin Russell
The original argument is that those countries were cultural wastelands (they didn't produce much art), and this is true. Unless you claim that to be a cultural wasteland you can't provide ANY art, in which case you are right but on ridiculous grounds.
Robert Kelly
So can anyone answer the OP question on what made Yugoslavia a more special case? Since albums with risky content were issued on official state labels instead of being distributed via underground connections like in the USSR.
Nolan Diaz
Yugoslavia wasn't a communist country and the music that came out of it didn't really start to get interesting until the 80s(in my opinion).
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Yugoslavia was also fairly liberal and open towards the 1st world's culture and influence despite its collectivist and authoritarian tendencies.
By the 80s it became pretty normal for even underground US/UK bands to tour here, often to highly receptive audiences. IIRC Sonic Youth's first tour of Yugoslavia went down in like 1984, for example.
Eat shit and die, commie.
Joseph Ward
i know this came out when yugoslavia had already been pretty much done for, but it's still technically yugoslavian (fr yugoslavia, not sfr yugoslavia) and it's underrated af
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Jose Howard
>Laibach
>Disciplina Kičme
I'm glad at least these two are getting mentioned and praised here.
Angel Wright
Was Yugoslavia even communist? They weren't a superpower like the USSR. They weren't in the USSR. Maybe they had less to worry about since they weren't as big as the USSR.
Carter Cooper
Can someone give me a rundown on GrOb? I'm confused as to what are their studio albums and what is not. Can someone make or link me to a splitting of their discography into main studio albums, live albums, demo albums, re-recordings, etc.?
Jackson Ward
It was a socialist federal republic ruled by a communist party. Technically speaking there has never been true communist state
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but they were as commie as any of the commie states.
Camden Green
yugoslavia started out as a soviet-backed communist state after wwII, but quickly distanced themselves from the warsaw pact and alligned themselves with the west while preserving their communist image. they soon adapted a nationalized free-market model, which meant that companies in yugoslavia were state-owned, but competed amongst each other and in the international market. the model also incorporated partial worker's self-management, which meant that the the companies were partially managed by the workers themselves, instead of the government or a capitalist. also, the borders were very open for a communist country, so yugoslavs traveled around and brought western influences into yugoslav culture (coca cola, western music and fashion, capitalism...)
the country fell apart due to nationalist tensions and economic struggles during the late 80's/ early 90's. before this period, the government was pretty strict and authoritarian when it came to nationalism and seperatism, while yugoslavia's economy was supported by both the east and the west through post-war financial aid programs, but when the berlin wall fell and america stopped financing govenments beneficial in the fight against the spread of communism, yugoslavia was fucked.
also i might add, even though yugoslavia was de jure a communist eastern bloc nation, it was de facto a non-aligned semi- capitalist one party socialist state that equally benefited the east and the west
Robert Myers
Unbelievable that such a band came from ex-Yu.
Oliver Myers
UZ MARŠALA TITA, JUNAČKOGA SINA
NAS NEĆE NI PAKAO SMEST'
Ian Roberts
HAUSTOR - TRECI SVIJET GOAT
Josiah Anderson
Oh, yes. Seeing Darko Rundek later tonight.
Ryder Morgan
Rundek is one of the rare guys that never sold out, never took sides, always made great music, unlike many of his contemporaries.
Bought his latest box-set, really nice packaging, love me some Rundek.
Sebastian Smith
I was at his soundcheck last week and even though they didn't play full songs, it was better than some live shows I've seen over the years. I wanted to record a good part of it, but I was unable to do so, because their violinist played octaves and I couldn't pick up my jaw from the floor. Can't wait to see them tonight.
Matthew Baker
I'm not Yugo-nostalgic by any means, I'm not very fond of the music scene from that time (at least most of the yugoslavian records still sold on the streets nowadays, rare shit is rare for a reason), but there were at least few records that stick out imo.
Luna - Nestvarne Stvari (1984)
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Idoli/Elektricni Orgazam/Sarlo Akrobata - Paket Aranzman (1981)
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Laibach - Opus Dei (1987)
Mizar - st (1988)
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Den Za Den - st
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Gori Ussi Winnetou - Addio Pola (1988)
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Haustor - Bolero (1985)
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Time - st (1972)
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I could go on and on, there are a lot of great albums made in between, probably missed a lot of great albums, but that's what I can think of for now.
You're gonna have a swell time, I tell ya that.
Aiden Murphy
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relevant channel.
this might be my favourite:
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I think quite good communist era albums get overrated because of context.
I have a friend who likes listening to Cambodian surf rock but I think the music itself isn't particularly spectacular, more a novelty.
Zachary Thompson
>relevant channel
Thanks, needed something like this.
Adam Thompson
if you havent explored the meme of balkan war songs there is also this channel
Brody Perry
I have actually, funniest shit ever.
90s were not a good time for the Balkans, and I'm lucky that Macedonia had no bloodshed in that time, it was a desperate place, but not as desperate like the rest of it. It's a damn shame.
Aaron Martinez
The states generally supported individual composers as well as jazz and traditional pop ensembles while taking a harsh stance against bands practicing western degeneracy and rock music, forcing some of those bands to go into the deep underground where theya'd develop cult followings amongst people in the know, and eventually become popular cultural icons during the 80's Glasnost and Perestroika eras.
At least that's how it was in the Soviet Union, in the GDR and North Korea things were apparently much stricter which is why you barely hear anything from around those parts.
Brayden Collins
How accurate would you say this list is? I saved it a while ago and always wondered if it was true.
James Turner
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saw this in a movie called "Pretty Village Pretty Flame"
fuckin banger for sure. The movie is well done if you're interested in the shitshow that is the Serbian and Croatian war
Justin Young
Pretty accurate.
Grayson Smith
Sparks and AC/DC confirmed altright
Brayden Foster
And Julio Iglesias too nice
Eat shit /leftypol/ we have the best music
Henry Jackson
Tito was a fan and a friend of America and he hated Stalin, that's why. He imported a lot of American stuff to Yugoslavia, both economically and culturally
Ian Torres
>Kiss
>Nationalism, Violence
>Village People
>Violence
Josiah Gomez
Contributing some stuff from commie Hungary
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Mostly 80s and 70s, but my favorite stuff is the folksongs that don't really fit the tone of the thread
Ian Thomas
All these comments yet no Bijelo Dugme???
Matthew King
They're not really that much loved anymore, especially since Bregovic's side projects and the band's direction as a whole, not to mention plagiarism.
Josiah Smith
How can you fags forget this one????
Alexander Rogers
Any non-folk Bulgarian music? I don't know any and 50% of my ancestry is from there.
Lincoln Flores
Chase Cooper
Oh god wtf
Cameron Ward
Aspid - Extravasation is one of the best thrash albums I've heard and it's russian
Blake Powell
Jeremiah King
what are you mixed with halfslav
Logan Anderson
We don't approve those talentless hacks here.
Xavier Wilson
You want an answer? I'll give you one...
Tito