School frustrations thread

school frustrations thread
>that older student that always interrupts the professor
>the middle aged student that has to remind everyone shes a mom
>the teacher that thinks shes "hip" and calls it the interwebs
>the teacher that drops the project an entire letter grade for every day its late

>that teacher that wont allow computers in the class because they are distracting
>all the class work is posted online
>the website is a mismanaged shit show because the professor doesnt know how to to use it properly

>the teacher that drops the project an entire letter grade for every day its late

I fail everyone who is even 1 min late. You had the whole fucking semester and you decide to hand it in 1 min before the deadline? Not my problem some bozo was drunk and tore up your paper, while you had a accident and your mother was you-know-what while you broke your printer and your mac didn't open this or that file.

>that teacher who gave me a passing grade even though I never showed up to a single class

Just graduate

>The students who think they're entitled to an "A" even though they haven't completed the necessary work to a standard befitting an "A"
>B-b-buh muh med school!

what if its multiple, small projects that are do once a week

>the cute girl you sit next to in class, thinking of a way to stir up conversation
>after class you see her run and hug some other guy in the hall

>teacher said you're a loser from the elementary
>graduate in high school (GPA 2.9)
>you're free to go
>now people said you're a loser because you don't have a bachelor degree

>that one kid who keeps cracking jokes but his banter is actually pretty funny so nobody minds

Tu eres un peredor

>the high school art teacher that said you wouldnt amount to anything because you couldnt paint or draw
>tfw going to school to be an electrician
eat a dick Ms Josephine

wtf is this, secondary school? I will never ever do small projects that need marking. Marking is work.

nope, college. Some prick of a professor wants a 3 page paper at the end of every week, which I dont mind doing but then he pulled that rule out of his ass and remails us about how awful students we are if we miss the deadline
fucker is like 80 though and a real jerk

the one kid in you group that actually cares about the project, does the work on time or in advance and sends it to everyone
Ive only had 3, ever

>OK CLASS, LETS ALL GET INTO GROUPS FOR THE ASSIGNMENT

I took Biology at A-level (UK schools age 16 - 18, roughly equivalent to high school.)

Within two weeks, the teacher had unashamedly bullied out any student who was clearly not going to make it, or was not putting in the effort. I actually respect her for that a lot. Society has trained us hard to not be this honest with people.

Really, though, try to picture this scene, as it's as awkward as they come: We get hit with a surprise pop quiz just one week into the course. To see who's been paying attention. Right in front of everyone, she told everybody who failed that they need to take a less difficult class. It was every bit as humiliating as you can imagine for these poor kids. But they needed it.

I posted this and I agree with the teacher's approach you mentioned. This is especially true in college. Why waste your (or more likely, your parents') money taking courses where you will poorly perform and walk away from without learning a damned thing? Focus on something that you are more suited for. I don't want to trust my health to someone who barely scraped by medical school with a C- average.

He must be both sadistic and masochistic at the same time, or else he really likes power tripping over marking.

I'm the guy that does all the work. Fuck you lazy faggots.

>that art teacher with combed over hair from his neck giving an A on a shit drawing of the girl who aces her other courses not to stain her score
>that student with the Ché-t-shirt
>that student that always mixes two foreign languages
>that teacher that loves to give his students presentations instead of teaching and testing
>that teacher with the standardized test you always get a C with
>that girl that mourns class solidarity because she has no friends in her class

>those books you read in mandatory literature course
>that commie teacher
>that student you vote to be class rep so he/she has to spend an additional hour in school every week

>that one teacher who gave you a B+ even though you should have gotten an A.

>that class that has no relation to your major but you have to take it anyway and it requires several hours of work seven days a week

>Single mom's who let everyone know how hard it is to do minimal classwork and have kids.
>Old people who act like it's difficult to use technology.
>Anyone who talks about themselves, it's a shitty class, get though it -- don't make it about how unique and interesting you aren't.

>That substitute teacher that talks slowly because she's fucking retarded
>That teacher that lets a black kid eat but not a white kid eat Cheetos
>That teacher that takes your book away while you're reading it, and she has to screech "It's distracting me"
>That cafateria bitch that gives more French fries to the black kid and less to the white kid

Yeah...tough shit. You EARN grades. You're not given them. And, it's up to the teacher's discretion on whether or not to round your grade. Sounds like you didn't deserve that "A".

Interesting thread.

What's your opinion on students that teach a few lessons during their internship? Do you have something like that in Murica?

welcome to the working world. no one cares. just do your fucking job and do it on time.

Do you mean students who act as "student teachers" in elementary/secondary schools while undergoing their undergraduate education? Or, do you mean students who act as instructors while undergoing graduate training?

Teaching Assistants usually try harder in mid and higher academia, some of the best and most enjoyable lessons I've sat though came from students.

>it's up to the teacher's discretion on whether or not to round your grade.
No it's not, dipshit. You sound bitter as fuck. Most teachers are less than brilliant, emotionally or intellectually. They're fallible. Established guidlines, that don't allow for certain""discretions"" on the part of the teacher when it comes to marking and testing are in place for this very reason.

Put tacks covered in aids blood on his chair

Yes, it is up to the teacher's discretion. Some choose to institute a no-rounding policy (aka you get what you get). Others do round grades. Totally up to an individual teacher/professor's discretion, at least at the college level.

So the money they already paid for the class was a good spend right? Not like they now have to Shell out 2000 for another class

>Biology A level
What a joke. Your teacher sounds like a sadist, and you've got to be a bit of an idiot for defending their actions. Biology A level is piss easy. It's learning by rote. Any teacher worth their salt should be able to get most any sixth former to a point where they're succeeding at it.

Is there a good site on the web/deep web where I can torrent college books/textbooks

So if I understand you correctly: it's a teacher's responsibility to make sure a student succeeds, not the student's inherent responsibility to succeed?

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students who are studying themselves to become a teacher. at least in germany, we have some internships, where those who study on becoming a teacher are send to schools for an internship. they usually teach some lessons then (they dont give grades, though)

>it's a teacher's responsibility to make sure a student succeeds, not the student's inherent responsibility to succeed?
They're not mutually exclusive. Your teacher is incompetent and more than a little wacko if they feel they have to kick people out of Biology A level, of all things. The fact that you think this is impressive, and seem to be in awe of this loser's personal power trip, is sad.

I hated working in groups with any one in their late 40s-50s. They either overcomplicated what the assignment was, didn't have a clue what the assignment called for, or did every fuckin thing to the 10th degree

I don't have a problem with students who are themselves studying acting as a teacher. How else are can these students be expected to acquire relevant, on-the-job training if they don't actually teach a class. And yes, this does happen in the US, primarily in elementary/secondary schools
I highly disagree. I think you believing that having students waste their time in a class they either are not interested in/unable to succeed in/or both is completely counterproductive. Those students could instead be focusing on classes they enjoy and excel at, much less classes that potentially teach them other valuable tools like a trade. Your insistence that this teacher ease off and pass little Billy, the class idiot who everyone knows can't add 2+2, only serves to perpetuate the attitude where individuals who can't make the grade expect to by sheer entitlement. Here's your participation trophy, Billy!

>walk in to uni class on first day
>some literature class i was taking to fill an elective
>desk are prearrange in to groups of four
>nope
>360
>dropped

>Your insistence that this teacher ease off and pass little Billy, the class idiot who everyone knows can't add 2+2, only serves to perpetuate the attitude where individuals who can't make the grade expect to by sheer entitlement. Here's your participation trophy, Billy!
You have major comprehension issues. I never once said, or even came close to implying, this. I stated that Biology A level is simple enough that anyone, provdided they put in a modicum of effort, could at least achieve an A with a decent teacher guiding them. Your teacher seems to be under the false impression that they're teaching something highly specialised and intellectually demanding. In reality, A level Biology is a bog standard subject, studied nation-wide in every school, that would rightly be regarded as facile by most working scientists today. Their reaction to not passing a pop quiz in something that is, in essence, based around memorizing a series of interconnected facts and little else is nothing short of insane.

That is exactly what you are implying when you say
>Your teacher is incompetent and more than a little wacko if they feel they have to kick people out of Biology A level, of all things
Let me ask you ask you a serious question - do you have a job, and if so, what is it?

>mfw not utilizing the many websites that allow you to hire people to write your papers for you at little to no cost
Get gud at college idiot.

'Scuse me partner your pre dubs are showing

I'm a consultant psychiatrist. You've got lost somewhere in your thinking; that is not what that statement is implying. Again, what I am saying is that your teacher's actions are unwarranted, wildly disproportionate, and oddly malicious, given the ease with which the subject can be both taught and learned. This is an A level subject that can be condensed into flash-card tier rote learning. No real intelligence is required. If they can't get this across to their students, and have them at least attain a passing grade in the public exam, this speaks to their incompetence. Kicking someone off a "Simon says" course doesn't make you a great teacher. It makes you unhinged.

You seem to have me confused with the user that made the initial post.
>No real intelligence is required
So, no real intelligence is required, the students didn't memorize the required material (otherwise, if they did [and according to your logic], they would have passed the quiz), and they still failed. Do you know of any job situation where your supervisor can provide you with the necessary materials, require you only to memorize them, you fail to adequately perform your job, and yet you STILL keep that job? A simple yes or no will suffice here.

Im from med school, we are absolutely entitled most cases we dont get a A in college or school are petty reasons. It creates an unfair situation where future med students have higher grades because of different teacher

In synthesis the only kind test that should count to get in med school should be multiple choice ones

Because all of medical school comes down to multiple choice, not your ability to complete prolonged and complex tasks where performance is cumulative. Where do you live and plan to be employed? I will look for healthcare elsewhere.

Except it was a pop quiz, i.e. the students had no real idea of the requirements prior, and this was used as justification for having them kicked off barely a week into the course. Insane behaviour.

So, if you were a supervisor who randomly happened to stop in and check on an employee, you'd continue to employ that person who can't complete a rote task requiring only memorization, even if you provided them with all the materials they need to complete said task?

>to complete prolonged and complex tasks where performance is cumulative
That comes after, in actual med school were the best differentiates from the rest
No to mention how flawed the system is, more intellectual high school students being at a severe disadvantage just because they didnt took HS serious even though they reach the higher schelon of scores in sat/act and mcats

High school grades shouldnt matter for college or university, its a flawed system. I wasted my teen years because of this. Get A+ on this get on that club, play that shitsrument idgaf about, take AP classes, take honors. Looking back i regret it profoundly and makes me really bitter. Sure im on the top of pyramid now but my youth was wasted away

ps i dont think you would be able to afford me anyways

>to complete prolonged and complex tasks where performance is cumulative
That comes after, in actual med school were the best differentiates from the rest
No to mention how flawed the system is, more intellectual high school students being at a severe disadvantage just because they didnt took HS serious even though they reach the higher schelon of scores in sat/act and mcats

High school grades shouldnt matter for college or university, its a flawed system. I wasted my teen years because of this. Get A+ on this get on that club, play that shitsrument idgaf about, take AP classes, take honors. Looking back i regret it profoundly and makes me really bitter. Sure im on the top of pyramid now but my youth was wasted away

ps i dont think you would be able to afford me anyways

I wouldn't want you considering your Gollum-like tendencies to argue with yourself.

So you go directly from high school to med school?

I mean, if you were a shit student in high-school it puts you at a disadvantage to get in a good college which in turn puts you at a disadvantage to get in med school

Not to mention the fact that if you didnt take high school serious even despite high grades in college you are at a disadvantage

High School shouldn't count or influence your future career

Usually the deadline for knowing that stuff is the exam. As long as you understand what's what by then, I see no reason to kick anyone out. One week into class is just stupid, and serves no purpose.

You're not answering my questions. Are children being prepared for life, or some imaginary world, when in school?

So, now your high school grades, despite good grades in college, still hold weight for your acceptance into med school?

All med students who lived it all before agree with me. You are an outsider and have no idea

Your opinion doesnt even matter, you are a inferior pleb so of course you dont care.

You keep making these assumptions, and frankly, they look really bad on you.

Yes, they put you at a disadvantage
High School is for kids, let kids be kids and drop all this competitive nonsense from it
I wasted my teen years away to get a med school decent high school resume

Whoops. Now you at least have the experience to mentor the next round of symptomologists.

I'm not the original guy were responding to. In my experience, the "real world" doesn't quite work the way you think it does. When my employer says they need something ready on Friday, they won't kick me out for not having it on Tuesday.

>that girl that always takes her shoes off
>tfw nobody wants to sit near her for it so theres always an open seat next to her

Sounds like your employer enjoys looking bad by not meeting deadlines and losing money because of under-performing employees.

>symptomologists
I see that you are bitter towards Doctors for some reason (jealousy?)

No, I'm a real doctor, not a symptomologist.

What? If the deadline is Friday, then the work is expected to be finished on Friday. Any sooner is of course a bonus (or a result of shoddy preparation), but not in any way "underperforming". I have no idea how you can view it like that.

My mistake. When someone writes:
>When my employer says they need something ready on Friday, they won't kick me out for not having it on Tuesday.
I interpret that as meaning you missed the Friday deadline.

Yeah, I meant the Tuesday before Friday, not afterwards. Naturally continuously missing deadlines is grounds for termination.

>the old teacher that needs helps bringing up youtube videos an somebody has to go up and help him

Fair enough. We're on the same page there. However, back to the point at hand.

Say you have this project deadline on Friday. The entire thing has to be good to go. In order to get to that point you need to complete certain aspects/components of the project. What if, when your supervisor stops by, they notice a flaw (maybe a huge one) that would ultimately undermine the entire project. Do they have a right to be worried and voice concern?

They have a right to be worried and voice concern, sure, but IMO there is no grounds for termination until those problems persist past the deadline.

anyone complaining about highschool is a joke. highschool was a joke. I understand all the extra curricular involvement that the admissions clerks like is bullshit, but as far as the standard courses that you're required to, and should be taking - all a fucking joke.
>those professors that constantly deviate from their lecture to try and give you life lessons about a bygone era

Even if that flawed project component requires something as simplistic as regurgitation of memorized information?

Yes, but termination at that point is pretty excessive. Especially if we're talking about an easy ass project, such as A levels biology. Any decent company would also at that point make sure that the project is completed, instead of firing the employee. If the problem is recurring, sure.

Then again, I would also refrain from making too strong comparisons with school and professional world, as in the former you are first and foremost responsible for yourself, and the teacher is basically your employee, helping you to learn whatever it is you are learning. When you're working, its vice versa. You need to provide value for the employer.

Im 100% certain that you aren't

Yes. There's nothing precluding that employee from learning on the job, just so long as they'e able to get their work done when it's needed to be done.

Of course, you should tell HR about the hiring process that got an employee who appears to have gaps in their prerequisite rote knowledge, but considering termination a week into the job when there hasn't even been a deadline yet is unreasonable.

They'd be an idiot to fire you for lack of performance before you're required to perform.
Does that mean they can't put someone else with you on the assignment to monitor/help you not completely make them look stupid when you fall thru? No, in fact they should cover their own asses and assess how much it actually took to cover your ass. If it ain't worth it then you get fired.

It would be like if you had a shitty GPA and your teacher banned you from the class bc they thought you were a shitty student and didn't want to lower their class averages. But that would never happen, most professors I know take pride in knowing students can't do what they're teaching. It gives them a sense of being greater than they are, or ahead of their time, even though they're fucking teaching.

I can't say I agree that a teacher is "basically your employee". If that were the case, why don't all teachers always give their students "A"s? I do agree that you need to provide value to your employer, but if you're unable to complete simplistic tasks without error, how much value do you provide?
Just another false assumption on your part. user. This is really beginning to look like that ill-fitting dress you wear on your special nights and keep stuffed under your mattress.

>that teacher that wont allow computers in the class because they are distracting

That bullshit, like dude, what year are you from? Computers are literally everywhere saying you can't use them is crippling your students and yourself you useless old fuck

I think we have very disparate experiences in regards to our professional worlds. Fair enough and I respect your opinions.

Saying that you can't use them only cripples the students who would use them for learning in the first place, as opposed to Facebook.

Granted, my job does not directly involve life-or-death situations. That would be a big exception to everything I've said above. But for the vast majority of employment (aka what high school is designed to prepare you for), I stand by what I said.

Fair enough - and you've made a legitimate point about life-or-death situations. Keep that in mind should you ever seek healthcare from this individual:

It wasn't joke back then though, it was life