What do you think about Antifa?

What do you think about Antifa?

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Intersectionality meets antifa. Brown antifa has turned on white antifa

It is the nature of the left to cannibalize itself.
Not toeing the party line hard enough? You're a closeted racist sexist ableist etc. etc.
The most predictable result of the left's race-baiting non-stop is that they will eventually convince the ethnic people of the lies they are telling, and then they will turn against whitey no matter who they are.

Antifa are a bunch of commie scum with the kind of mindset that makes them easily manipulated. Its people like them that would have been Nazis during Hitler's rise to power.

Depends of the group. I fight against fascism, but in the ideological level, showing them as the racist homophobic bastards they're. I've deal with antifas that only go around in groups to catch them and beat the shit out of them, and it's too useless. It only makes nazis organize and do the same to left oriented people.

Still, I'm from Spain, here the fascist are trying to show themselves polite and honorable, since after 40 years of dictatorship they're not well seen (in some places, other people follow their ideas as if Franco was still alive).

Whities haven't seen anything yet

"commie scum" :')

The problem is, many people are categorized as nazi and fascist while they are NOT. Fucking only group that uses fascist tactics is antifa.

Sterilize or kill them all.
Problem solved.

That symbol tells a lot about them.

Not the only group, but I get what you mean. Tactical smear campaigns in order to avoid interacting with people who hold different opinions and meeting out violence upon them the modus operandi of Antifa.

Absolutely fantastic and a group we can be proud of.

I think this thread belongs on Sup Forums

And the oligarchy, but antifa is mostly associated with the #Resistance, provably a Soros operation anyway.

>doesn't want to play a game where I'm the winner and I get to tell other people what to do because muh game
>t.cuck who thinks he's a bull

Maybe in Muricah, pal, although those confederate KKK you've there looks pretty nazi to me. In my country, they're organizing themselves in "white label" colectives, denying help for immigrants and making actions against muslims. Besides of that public stuff, there have been homophobic attacks and some stabbings to left side activist.

I think their overly reactionary to the point where any good in their cause is lost under all the outrage.

I'd say the exact same thing about anyone screaming RED MENACE COMMIE SCUM KILL THEM ALL

Antifa = fascism,
Ironically true.

>Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce

I mean they're a bit violent and not good at taking on ideas that challenge their world view, but that's not really what fascism is user. Use it a buzzword and it loses all meaning.

Antifa are REAL Americans.

Lincoln and Washington would be anti-fascist were they alive today.

No. I mean they're technically doing what nazis did and nazis were the primal form of fascism.

...not really.

You're actually free to say this, in contrast of-
I'm sure you'll get it at some point

How so? Saying things you don't like and smashing a few people's heads in? Sure they might be a bit thugish, but that's nothing like the Nazi's rise to power at all. Read a history book or something.

they all are degenerate cucks and mentally are niggers (and not only mentally, if speaking about antifa niggers).

I'm not smart, but i am fully objective in political structure~ discussions

I'm not a fascist, but I started to read history and must say that I deeply admire Franco. Spain was a lucky country to have such a man in charge.

Antifa is an organization that existed in other western countries before making its way to the U.S. Also, you have no fucking clue what George Washington thought, and you have even less of an idea of what he would think now. Take your baseless rhetoric and shove it up your ass, if you can dislodge your head from it first.

(You)
And they're the closest thing to Nazis.
Just watch the fucking videos, you won't need other data to clarify this

:^)

No, I will need something to clarify it because you made a baseless statement. If you can show me a video of them seizing a factory for the motherland I'll agree they're fascist. Otherwise, I'll stick with Antifa are thugs and you're overly reactionary like they are.

See, underage, you're making shit up again. Never heard of Mussolini?

Except not.

Are you too much of a shallow edgelord to look at actual political ideology rather than behavior? Fascism has always been anti-communist. Where exactly is that in antifa?

No, they are fascists. Technically most of them are Marxists believing that Marxism will lead to Anarchy, but also still fascists.

Marxist believe that communism will lead to anarchism, but communist are by their nature nationalists. The AntiFa are also dictatorial, and attempt forcible suppression of opposition. The only thing missing is the control of industry and commerce part. Any doubt they would if they could? Remember their communists after all.

This is stupid.
Antifa is fascist.
Get over it, antifakers.

All opinions can be discussed by the way, which comes in contrast with their ideology, no?

I think that user just conflates the effective behavior of communists with that of fascists. The two may be on opposite sides of the political spectrum, but their actions make them almost exactly alike in his mind.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE = discussion

>communist are by their nature nationalists
What? Where?
>The AntiFa are also dictatorial
Be careful that you aren't conflating the sjew contingent that took up the antifa flag as cheap anti-trumpism with actual Antifa.
>their communists after all
Stop screeching, autist.

>Reeeeeee
Weird way of looking at this, but, oh well

Fascists are usually socialists, which differs functionally from communists more in doctrine than in operation.

The fact that Mussolini and Hitler didn't like Russia hardly means that fascism is anti-communist in nature.

>and attempt forcible suppression of opposition

Not the definition of fascism but I get your point, they don't like being challenged.

>The only thing missing is the control of industry and commerce part. Any doubt they would if they could?

Yes, because they don't have any economic ideals. It's different political views with anti-fascism as a shared goal. Also missing nationalism. So all in all, not fascist. To call them so is reactionary.

See above, not liking other opinions and smashing a few heads isn't fascism.

Smashing heads based on political differences, is part of fascism as historically seen

I like Antifa because they beat the shit out of Trumpkins

>Fascists are usually socialists, which differs functionally from communists more in doctrine than in operation.
>can't tell the difference between rhetoric and policy
Just shut the fuck up you baiting crackwhore.

>assertion assertion get over it != REEEEEEEE
weird way of looking at it but oh well

Opinion opinion != reeee

Most people define an ideology by how they treat the ideologically opposed. In that regard, communists and fascists are very nearly the same. I find the main differences between the two ideologies to be that of their motivation. Although it is difficult for me to really pin down the motives of either because I am an outsider to both.

And so is nationalizing railways and a working water system. Whats your point?

That antifa is fascist and that is the most dramatic irony of today's world.

>opinion != REEEEEEEEEEEE
Arguments are actually worth something. If you want people caring about your worthless opinion/asshole, go to a trap bread.

>Most people define an ideology by how they treat the ideologically opposed
No, they treat them by what they will do for the general interest. Stop making up stupid shit, amerifat.

Communists are by their nature nationalists. Yes it's true. the more communistic a country is the more closed they are to trade and the more tightly controlled their media is to present the proper image of the state to the people. Can you provide an example of a communist state where foreign companies are allowed to compete against state run companies on an even playing field?

Are you denying that AntiFa is populated primarily with Marxists and anarchists? Or are you saying that Marxists aren't communists and that communists aren't dictatorial? Please clarify for me.

But you've not established that they're fascist yet. You told me they were, and stated that violence is fascist. By that logic, the US is fascist for using police against protesters. Hitting people you disagree with is usually taken with more context than 'IT'S FASCISM CASE CLOSED'. So I'll ask again, what makes them fascist rather than violent?

But, i don't care about them being worth or recognized, i'm not virtue signaling
(I do hope my english vocab is rich enough, since - eurofag)

Just another plague in the sea of bullshit.

Protesters using violence?
Not accepting(by any means necessary) political differences is the basic attribute i'd say.

antifa threads belong to

Those fuckers left us here with all the newfags, may the triforce help us

Ok, well 'I'd say' isn't really the same as 'it is'. Fascism is the state controlled crackdown on dissenting ideas among other things, not a few thugs hitting people who counter protest. That's been a part of protest (especially this kind of reactionary protest) forever, it's only being framed as fascist in this example because of who they're protesting against.

>Communists are by their nature nationalists
Talking complete shit again, I see.
>the more closed they are to trade
No, the more closed they are to trade for the sake of trade. Foreign absentee landlords hate that.
>the more tightly controlled their media is to present the proper image of the state to the people
The USA demolishes your argument.
>foreign companies are allowed to compete against state run companies on an even playing field?
Explain how selling off the country to foreign jews is a good thing for that country. Neoliberals need to be killed, not coddled.

>farting worthless opinions into the air for no reason
>not virtue signalling
Why the hell are you even blathering, then?

>white people holding "against white supremacy" flag"

No, this scale of "protesting" is amazingly getting close to fascism getting rid of political opposition which doesn't really matter who that is, but it should be free to express, not to oppress

Because /b, faggot.
New here?

I'm speaking from experience talking to other Americans. I suppose I should have qualified my statement with "most people who are uneducated on the minutia of political ideologies," but I have by no means made up the observation.

AntiFa is made up primarily of Marxist and anarchists. And those anarchists largely (and mistakenly) believe the way to anarchism is through Marxism. So to say they wouldn't control industry or commerce is untrue.

Also I did make the point about communists (aka Marxists) and statists. Don't bother telling me that Marxism and communism isn't the same thing. Call it what you want, but if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...

(You)
Discussion == optimizing thought process

kek... there are actually people who think antifa aren't pro communism.

>No, this scale of "protesting" is amazingly getting close to fascism getting rid of political opposition which doesn't really matter who that is, but it should be free to express, not to oppress

So you're saying Antifa is close to assuming control of the state police force and rounding up dissenters into the Gulags? Or are you saying they're planning a sudden surge into nationalism? Are they planning to seize the economic infrastructure too?

I pray daily they will attempt civil war so I can shoot tgem openly and make a scalp belt. These commie pansies deserve a slow painful death.

oh sorry m8 thought I was on Sup Forums with all the political groupthink trolling going on here

If they could, they would.
That's why it's /ironic/ towards their creation "roots"

oh man, jeez

>AntiFa is made up primarily of Marxist and anarchists. And those anarchists largely (and mistakenly) believe the way to anarchism is through Marxism

Two assumptions; 1 is that they are primarily of such leanings, the other is that those leanings are Marxist by nature. Please feel free to provide some proof and I'll take them as fact rather than baseless assumption.

Them and their enemies are fun entertainment. Hope they both kill each other

rich kids larping as revolutionaries who don't understand hard work

If you don't see communists as nationalists, who are nationalists? Can you define it AND give an example or two?

(You)
Gotta add this for reference
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I mean they're not, by nature. In Europe they've been active for some time, and even at lefty political events they've been pretty diverse in political belief when I've interacted with them. Feel free to prove me otherwise I guess, should be pretty easy to prove if it's as obvious as you infer.

>If they could, they would.
So no then? They're not fascist then I guess. Glad we reached a conclusion.

As big of a cancer as BLM or islam

You're trying too hard user, this is subjective based on your thinking structure

Pure LARPing. They are frauds. So are the wannabe Nazis. I've debated both groups. Neither of them even knows what Nazism is, beyond the little details they like/hate.

This is all part of reboot culture. Today's young generation has no identity of their own, so they try to steal gravitas from older identities. Without even understanding what they fully meant.

There are so few people who think of themselves as "white supremacists", why even put that all over banners and march through a street.

I've already posted my opinions, but this is accurate too

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Just searched really quick for these, there's tons.
Cancerous dogma

Here is the evolution in a nutshell for you...
Capitalism leads to socialism leads to communism leads to classless society leads to stateless society.
As for proof of an ideology? Or proof of the link between communism and anarchism? You have google right? Do you see the link between a classless society and anarchism? I mean you're just trolling if you can't see that right? and the link between Marxism and a classless society (or at least the promise of one).

It's really difficult for me to explain something that should be this patently obvious to anyone who's done even a little research on AntiFa's origin and makeup.

Ah, so maybe "people who drink the indispensable two-party koolaid", who really ought to be re-educated out of that mindset by means less violent than were used on Chilean left-wingers.

I ask you to look up the phrase "socialism in one country" to see just how Marxists felt about nationalism.
Nationalism: the seeking of sovereignty over a putative homeland by members of a society or culture who claim rights to it
Examples: Israel/Palestine, some European nativist movements particularly Germans

>walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Nigger logic.

>implying anarchism is bad for anyone who doesn't define themselves as better than others and entitled to gbp just for being so

What do I think of Antifa?
I think it really funny that almost everybody involved with them are huge fans of CRASS, and yet they don't realize that the song "White Punks on Hope" is about THEM!

Just google the lyrics.

Antifa are the people they claim to be fighting against.

They claim to be fighting racism, fascism, etc. but they are self defeating with their tactics and strategies.

Starting to look that way. I'm ok with it.

That first video says everything about the people associating with this label.

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Could be worse. Could be Nazis, white supremacist, racist dick holes.

Every time I read Marx I find yet another bit of dumbassery of mind boggling magnitude.

Regardless I agree with your definition of nationalism and would add that anytime you see a country that has to erect guard towers and shoot people to prevent them from escaping, there is a decent chance that there is a fair amount of nationalism being practiced by the government there. Like say, Cuba, China, Old Soviet Union, and everywhere else that has proven the failed ideas of communism and socialism.

Also I didn't imply shit. If you want to feel guilty for being a leach on society that's on you Sup Forumsro

Kill yourself, neoliberal.

Just admit that you're too much of an indoctrinated dipshit to understand any system more complex than a thermostat and that you're unqualified to opine on anything to do with the collective action problem.

Agreed

They'll die off eventually, either by being run over or being triggered to suicide.

>What do you think about Antifa?

Complete asswipes.

Wow, did I hit a nerve talking about your boy Marx? You know when he got married his wife brought a personal maid with her into the marriage that Marx would often not pay for years on end? That he also had a child with this woman.

Yeah your hero was effectively a slave owner.

Oh another thing this guy who had no credentials what so ever for writing a book on society and government was regularly so broke that there was only one pair of pants in the whole family. Seriously, only one person could leave the house at a time because between the 6 of them there was just 1 pair of pants. The pawn brokers had the rest of their clothes, except on those occasions when his family or Engles would bail him out of the financial hot water he kept getting in.

Karl Marx was a fucking leach.

Soros globalist funded group used to cause civil discourse and unrest. Agenda is to erase history rewrite it and shut down free speech. should be labeled domestic terrorist group.

No, you didn't hit a nerve. You're just a repetitious shill projecting your own crimes against humanities on others. In other words, a typical amerifat.
>hero
See what I mean? Only right-wing conservatards with daddy issues, an insatiable need to be a cuck, and absolutely no character of their own need heroes. Marx wasn't a hero or moral exemplar or anything like it. He was just a writer who nailed your rationalizing bourgeois ass to the wall.
>there was only one pair of pants in the whole family
>implying Jesus had any pants
Your (((Ayn Rand))) fanboy lack of perspective is duly noted. Now get your bitch ass out into the fields and shut the fuck up like a good little nigger.

You just brought Jesus into this?! Oh shit Sup Forumsro my sides they just went into orbit.

I love how often you use the word nigger on me. 'Cuz you know Marx was a nigger. Marx was THE nigger, and Engles that man was the original white-guilt-makes-me-do-stupid-shit liberal.

Oh yeah Marx there talking all his shit about how the man be keeping him down and how 'one day weze all gonna be free' and Engles with his mill and his workers supporting Marx.

What a fucking pair of cocksuckers. A perfect model for modern progressives neither one with enough self-awareness to know when they need to fart or when to shit.

You didn't think influential people could be poor, so I decided to provide a counterexample. A few men of science in the 19th century underwent the same fate.
I think it's time for you to shut the fuck up about liberals and leftists, since the only thing they mean to you is "muh THEM" meaning anyone who isn't inheriting mommy and daddy's business and playing vidya with other people's lives.

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Marx didn't 'fall on hard times' He was the original welfare queen. The guy wrote for newspapers and he did so little of that almost every thing he ever published, mostly newspaper articles is listed in his Wikipedia page.
The fact is Karl Marx only had one close friend, Fredrich Engels and that was because Engels kept giving him money. Marx was a purely unlikable person who would take money from you if he could and borrow it from you if he couldn't.

I like them, they may not show the proper persistence, but their goals and motives are good