Hmm... really makes you think

hmm... really makes you think......

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Sup Forums will defend this

I agree. Goverment regulation has strong armed a cohesive system, where the rich can adapt and slip through any regulation, while small business owners and working joe are crushed.

Abolish the Social welfare, Goverment intervention, restrictive red tape, bureaucratic corporatism, and embrace both freedom and free markets.

What is income mobility?

free market caused the inequality you dumbo

At what point did conservatives stick up for big business? It wasn't always like that.

>Implying that money has wealth in itself.

a meme like trickling dow

I honestly dont understand it either

Maybe the working class should focus on getting a good education and getting decent paying jobs

There are people earning millions because they kick against a ball, why aren't you complaining about them?

We live in times with the most number of high educated people in the whole history

religion of the special snow flakes.

>hmm... really makes you think......
should be autob& you faggot

Its almost as if there is a very small percentage of very motivated and talented people that are hell bent on making the most money possible. Hmm. Maybe we should create an environment for them to be able to master such a skill, as it seems, 90% of people just lack the drive. We should assign roles to the people most fit for the job. This roll being "wealthy".

They are part of the problem too

Lel, no it's not.

At age 18 I made 23k a year, and at 25 I make 93,000 a year because I grew my skillset and acquired connections.

You're a fool.

We can complain about both

>muh 1%
>more government hand outs fueled by them pls

You lying fucking shill.

How can it cause it, when it hasn't even existed in any recognizable state in the last 50 years?

How about you go to Venezuela? I promise their economic distribution is more to your liking.

What is a wealth? How do you measure this?

>no true scotsman meme

>muh singular example proves broad cultural ideas
gonna have to back that up a bit more faggot

Yeah, there really is a lot of Jews in the US. Nothing new.

huh? what does that even prove? That you were lucky your parents were rich enough to raise you properly with a good education?

Laws are spider webs through which the big flies pass and the little ones get caught.

>rich people have the highest work ethic
lol, you have no clue

Go read some of Sowell's writing on income mobility then, dumb ass.

What would you prefer, a society that takes from those who contributes and gives to those who do not?

My parents are broke as fuck and I dropped out of college.

Try again.

Income mobilty is a meme just like trickling down economics. It doesn't exist.

Sup Forums will deny this is a problem because the only feasible solutions to it are left-wing and that causes too much cognitive dissonance for them.

Don't you know the richest people in the world couldn't have become rich without nations of people and armies of workers helping them? Why do you accept the status quo that they get such a share of the benefits that is massively disperportionate to the work they're putting in? Obviously somebody working 80 hour weeks should get paid more, but are you going to accept this disparity because of some memes you read on a mongolian crocheting board?

Production is wealth. Not money in itself. Money is just a means to get goods. Now we are selling cows for milk, and are dependent on banks to give us money. We take loans we cannot physically pay back and we just go in debt. We use the "free money" to buy stuff from consumerist corporations. They get richer. Taxes rise because of the debt from the loans we took. The less we produce, the less wealth we have. Any money we have that does not come from production is just debt.

>he thinks this says anything about the information presented

Makes me strive harder to be wealthy.

Whats the problem here?

There is not enoguh data that we can judge and I don't even care. We're takling about broad cultural ideas here. I make more than you yearly btw

I will never understand why Sup Forums shills for neoliberalism

This.

WHY ARE THERE SO MANY NEOLIBERAL SHILLS HERE?

Because they're well trained and conditioned class cucks.

>fuck the 1%
>but lets have open borders so we can bring in more poor people for them to exploit

>a Communist implying Scotsmans

>Sup Forums doesn't agree with the solutions
>that means it is a problem
Perhaps Sup Forums doesn't agree with the solutions because they don't see it as a problem.

the 1% are the ones who shill for open boarder you dumb

I didn't say that. I said they were the only ones motivated enough to build entire nations. To endlessly search for resources. To build and build and build. To make vast armies. To create things that have never existed but suddenly we need them. Only special people are able to do this.

Kek look at how mad you are, frog. Why would I care if you make more than I do? I'm perfectly comfortable in life.

aei.org/publication/tracking-the-same-us-taxpayers-over-time-shows-significant-income-mobility-from-1996-to-2005/

hahahaahaha ebin XDDDDDDD

The poor don't have any less money than they used to, but the rich have more now.

Why is this a problem? The poor are still poor, and the rich get richer, causing our country to improve overall. An average poor person 100 years ago could barely survive, nowadays we're forced to take care of them. We give them free shit 90% of the time, and they're guaranteed medical care in emergencies.

The extremely poor's lives may not be nice, but there's two important points about that:
1. The poor are still able to survive. This wasn't always the case.
2. In this country, people are able to pull themselves out of the shit and rise to at least middle class if they try hard enough. I've seen it time and time again, from individuals who have drive and motivation. I've also seen a lot of do-nothings who sit around and complain about who poor they are. Over twitter.

Those who are intelligent and motivated get far in this country, and those who are not fail. For some reason this is seen as a bad thing now.

I'm not a frog, your lack of education about my flag is proof to me that there is no need to even discuss broad ideas with you because you're low IQ

Lack of competition in the marketplace creates these wealth inequalities. Only large companies are equipped to maneuver through complex, bureaucratic laws.

>hurr dur really makes you think dont it//??

For fucks sake these threads are fucking cancer

Remind me again why anyone should care about income inequality?

>Rich people have more money than poor people

News at 11.

>I don't need to prove my point, you just need to believe it
Yeah OK

>The poor don't have any less money than they used to, but the rich have more now.
What is high inflation? What is higher living costs? What is low interests on savings?

How can people like you even spout such bullshit?

Are you retarded? Countless geniuses and innovators lived and died (and still do) in grinding poverty.

We've already implied solutions in this thread that aren't Left wing.

Lurk a thread before you bullshit.

Congratulations, you addressed one point of my post, and failed to talk about the ones which disprove all the garbage you're posting.

Fuck off cunt.

So I don't get it. Sup Forums defends Hitler but also defends this wealth inequality? Make no sense.

>le move to le [insert shitty country] if you like [strawman ideology] so much you le faggot

I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why income inequality is a problem or something that anyone should care about.

>a shitty bumbfuck country is the reason why the middle class in the western world should suffer more and more

It's fucking remarkable how every single response in opposition is a strawman.

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You're talking BS

bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-03-10/ecb-cuts-all-rates-as-qe-boosted-to-80-billion-euros-a-month

They defend National Socialism but ignore what Gottfried Feder said, which influenced Hitler greatly. He explains wealth inequality and debt well.

Because that money is being siphoned from you when that previously wasn't the case. America could be a very different country if wealth were more evenly distributed.

I'm already in the red, don't care.
My money, not yours.

>muh communism

>thread is about american business
>european sources about europe
Yeah OK

yeah but you get called anti-semetic if you point out the jewish population ratio.

>it's another europeans try to tell america how to be successful thread

Sup Forums has Libertarian leanings as much as it has National Socialist.

The inherent genetic differences between peoples is much as a reality, as the fact economic redistribution of wealth is always a disaster long term.

How these Commie pricks keep getting away with changing a imperfect system, into a smoking hole in the ground, is absurd.

because a stable middle class is the pillar of every civilization

Name 1 Capitalist, free market leaning county, that people flee through jungles, mountains and fences to escape from.

Protip
>you can't

>kick against a ball
I know how ridiculous that sounds but you have to break it down and it makes sense.
People come from all over to see that person kick the ball. They buy tickets to see the person kick the ball. They buy food to eat while they catch the person kick the ball. They grt hotel rooms to stay in after they see the person kick the ball. They go have dinner after they see the person kick the ball.
The amount of money the man who kicks the ball brings into the city is enormous. So people want to make sure he kicks the ball for their city and doesn't go somewhere else.

>it's an Americans defend being forced into accepting peasantry thread

>suffer
Your delusional if you think people in the Western World are suffering economic problems that aren't of their own failings.

>money is being siphoned
What money? How?
Do you mean taxes? Because I'm all for lowering taxes. In the same vein I don't agree that taxing people just for the government to redistribute the revenue to poor people because "muh equality" is in any way the right thing to do or even morally upstanding.

Rich people and corporations aren't coming to my door and stealing my money, the only entity that does that is the government.
I give absolutely no flying fucks how people got rich or why or through what methods. I'm focused on earning my own wealth in life and I don't feel the need to steal from rich people in order to get there.

What does that have to do with income inequality?

Nobody cares about your failing currency, and your article is totally irrelevant since this thread is about American economics/politics.

It's also irrelevant because it's talking about the euro overall, (and managing interest rates by anywhere between 1% and a whopping 0.1%) and not the rich/poor distributions of your failing continent.

What makes you think that your pissant countries have any ground to stand on when talking to the richest nation in the world on the matter of economics anyway?

Well it's not a problem if you're the one benefiting from it.

Which is why nobody cares that the US is wealthier than other nations, but people do care that people that live within the US are richer than them.

Income inequality is also inefficent to an extent because despite what Sup Forums says about the poor spending their money on tattoos, grills, and ghetto-blasters, $1000 spent on a dishwasher goes a lot further in improving productivity than $1000 spent on a gold plated ass scratcher for a rich dude. The biggest economic boom in the US came after the GI bill ensured returning veterans would be able to purchase all the modern conveniences of the day.

High inequality tends to lower social cohesion increasing crime, decreasing happiness across the board, and having other negative effects. Countries which are notably equal tend to have low levels of crime.

Employers have an interest in keeping their workers healthy, happy, and educated. Inequality tends to result in stupider, less healthy, and less happy workers.

>implying the majority of people aren't cattle that can talk
>implying feudalism with a rational king is bad

>Abolish the Social welfare
I think you meant corporate welfare

Not taxes, it's an elaborate scheme involving multiple methods of siphoning wealth from all but the top 1% and it's been going on since the late 70's.

Just because they're not coming to your door to take your money doesn't change the fact that you're being fucked over. You are wicked submissive.

middle class people want to retire with their savings, which they worked hard their whole life? PROBLEM!!

wealthy 0,0001% cause economic meltdown like 2008? LETS BAIL THEM OUT!!!

>being this much of a cuck

>thinking that's not a historic valid eyeroll

>The rich dodge drafts and taxes and Sup Forums sucks their cocks for it because they're essentially celebrities for the white male
You guys are like the lowest common denominator of society fawning over the kardashians, it's pathetic.
We wouldn't care about this if they were paying their fair share in the first place but they haven't been, cause money is a bigger rush than any other drug, and they're addicted.

I mean both.

>implying i'm not a noble or knight

Can you explain any of it to me or are you going to just keep saying "trust me bro it's getting siphoned and the only way to avoid it is to wear a tinfoil hat"

yeah lets make negative interest rates on savings, it will surely help the common people

you dumb

Yeah I am implying that the guy I'm talking to on Sup Forums isn't in the top 1% of income earners in the US.

Don't forget celebrities

youtube.com/watch?v=XCZLhEOJ8XA

youtube.com/watch?v=wQxia_M-NkU

Theaters supposedly only make money from concessions

>Rich people and corporations aren't coming to my door and stealing my money
HAHAHAH AHAH AHAHAH

THIS PERSON REALLY THINKS THIS!

>he is arguing against socialist stupidity
>he must support bailouts!!!

Lol, there's a lot of talk about strawmaning in this thread, but here's one if I ever saw it.

maybe the middle class should stop being suckers and stop giving all their money away buying bullshit like $600 cellphone and $2000 tvs that are made overseas.

Fuck off corporatist licker

lol you cuck

Outsourcing, keeping minimum wage low, inflation, surely some other methods. Regardless of all the methods being used, it is most certainly reality and it wasn't by accident. Trickle down was a scam.