>tfw Steve Albini and Ian Mackaye BOTH became "le feminist allies" in their old age

Hilarious. Now that I know this I can finally retire their retrospectively lame careers from my library.

>Ian Mackaye is a leftist

NO WAY. LIKE, NO, NO WAY BECKY, NO FUCKING WAY

i know albini was a huge misogynist. was macaye?

There's a difference between a leftist and a modern day identity politics liberal. Anyway, he was never that much of a leftist in the first place. He was, and continues to be, more of a person who stays out of the political realm in obviously partisan ways.

Either way it doesn't matter, He's a complete brainlet (listen to him speak for more than 5 seconds in any interview) and hasn't made good music in over 25 years.

>guy who wrote the white pride anthem of a generation
>anti-drugs, anti-degeneracy
>leftist
lol nope
If you were around at east coast hardcore shows back in the day you'd know there was a HUGE national socialist element and even the bands that were leftist cucks had to play it down or else they'd get beaten up.

MacKaye was one step away from full 14/88 but now it just sounds like he's another bluepilled old man.

Steve Albini may be best known to many as a prolific recording engineer and producer, having worked with such hallowed acts as Nirvana, Cheap Trick, PJ Harvey, The Stooges, The Breeders, and more. But he’s had an impact as a musician, too, through his participation in such bands as Big Black and the minimalist rock trio Shellac. Australian musician and feminist Evelyn Morris has been heavily influenced by Shellac, finding that the anger in the group’s songs gave her an outlet for her own long-suppressed rage. She opened for the band at some Australian shows and was gratified to be treated as a peer by her musical heroes. Following a traumatic incident of sexual coercion in her own life, Morris found that she was having an extremely visceral reaction to “You Came In Me,” a satirical track from Shellac’s 2014 album Dude Incredible. Morris decided to talk to Albini about music, feminism, and other topics in a detailed interview at her own site,

Prepare for further cringe. And keep in mind Albini's second band was "Rapeman"

In the interview, Albini talks thoughtfully and at length about the sexism inherent in rock and the world in general, and how he and Shellac have addressed that through their music. “You Came In Me” is a parody of a particular kind of male thinking, as is “Prayer To God.” For now, Albini is relieved that the band’s music has not been tragically misinterpreted. “I am pleased that as of yet nobody has pretended we are championing this sort of thinking, as in the creepy-as-fuck Men’s Rights type shit,” Albini says, “and it has sparked some interesting discussions like this one.” He adds, however, that “sooner or later, I’ll have to answer for the protagonist in the song.” Though he says he’s tried to be “an ally in feminism,” he does not try to write from a female point of view, saying that to do so would amount to ”minstrelsy.” He recognizes, too, that his lyrics can have a traumatic effect on listeners, as they did for Morris. But it’s a risk he’s willing to take:

I appreciate that some of this is playing with fire, and if I’m going to do that, I am obliged to do it in a way that is both responsible (respects the truth) and worth the risk (not capricious, not frivolous). If these defenses of offensive material are going to have any meaning, I should be specific. I’ll outline the sexual/power content of several songs, what was on my mind when we wrote them and what I think about them now.

>ian mackaye
>became a feminist

Do you know what Suggestion is about you fag

Yes, and it was always a pathetic song. However, one song isn't indicative of an entire worldview and lifestyle, sweetie.

nice interpretive bias my dudes

along with lyrical content and such arent there many examples of albini saying misogynistic shit and him being creepy towards women? i swear ive seen pastas on here.

all the shittiest bands were nationalist socialist, all the great bands are or eventually became leftist (Black Flag, Fugazi, MacKaye). This is true across the entire spectrum of music.

just admit nazi hicks/right wingers in general have no culture and are retarded at art

Albini did nothing wrong, and what he said about that was the best response he could have given. It was on the girl for overreacting.

who knows, maybe it'll happen to you in the future

lmao. that pathetic basement dwelling frog poster will kill himself in a few years.

Albini isn't fooling everyone with this 180 routine. Anyone who knows Albini knows that he hates everyone in equal measure. He is too edge to fucking care and if he does claim to care about these nauseating third-wave tumblr feminists it's only to spite the right-wing groups that are politically opposed to them that he happens to loathe even more.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend type shit. That's all this is. Guaranteed he is still the same grump he always was.

Why is the volume in Excellent Italian Greyhound so low?

M-my band shared...

I couldn't imagine Albini being a fullblown one after all the shit he had to put up with from feminists during his Rapeman days, but it doesn't surprise me. He's strangely PC for a man who spent half his career singing about the darkest things he could think of.
MacKaye's not surprising at all, he wrote suggestion, he produced for Bikini Kill, not surprising. I also doubt he's a raving radical about it, he seems too nuanced in all of his other views to be.

Albini can't possibly be a SJW. He called Odd Future a bunch of niggers like 3 years ago.

>"[Odd Future] piled on to the shuttle late, after finally getting corralled by their minder," Albini wrote on his studio message board. "They piled in, niggering everything in sight, motherfucking the driver, boasting into the air unbidden about getting their dicks sucked and calling everyone in the area a faggot." During the 40-minute ride, the rappers and their entourage allegedly heckled the driver, harassed passengers, and demanded to be taken to McDonalds.

>"Interspersed with the McDonalds requests were shouted boasts about how often they masturbated and fucked bitches nigger and got paid like a motherfucker fifty grand like a motherfucker," Albini continued. "If the whole thing is a put-on, a bit of Vincent Gallo life-as-theatre for the benefit of whoever happens to be sitting next to them, that's no excuse ... I am quite happy none of them engaged me directly, because at least one of us would have regretted it."

why are black people like this everywhere they go?

>He called Odd Future a bunch of niggers like 3 years ago.

You'd fit right in Buzzfeed, your word twisting skills are remarkable

>niggering everything in site

Let's break this down.
>Niggering everything in sight
What did he mean by this?
>Motherfucking the driver
What did he mean by this?

...

As in "let's go to McDonald's, nigga", "suck my dick Albini, nigga." Hence also what "motherfucking the driver" meant.

culture

he fucked the driver's mother

>says he doesnt nigger everything in sight
>proceeds to act very niggerish

What Is With Black People And Capitalizing Every Word?

desu tyler is a lying nigger. their manager already apologized to albini for what happened

True Germanic Master Race. We Wuz Kaisers.

of course. there are usually two sides to a story but i always believe a white person over a black person in situations like this

If one side says something happened, and the manager of the other side admits it happened and apologises, I'm inclined to believe it happened

>people actually think the guy who led Fugazi and wrote The Argument isn't a hyper leftist
>people think Albini didn't use violence and startlingly offensive lyrics to make a point and paint a picture of the underbelly of middle america
This board pains me

>babbys first separating the art from the artist
if you can't enjoy any art made by liberals you may as well bin your entire library tbqh

Ian yeah you're retarded if you didn't see that but Steve does not seem like a feminist lefty at all.

If you listened to them with zero knowledge of Albini, who they played with, when they played, etc., i guess that's a conclusion someone may come to, but in this day and age there's no excuse for that

Punk and post-hardcore is shit music for angsty teenagers

That's emo

word, all that matters is if the musics good. well unless the artist is a trump supporter that guy is literally hitler

emo is post hardcore

the problem isnt that tyler was acting immature or childish. (i'm not at all surprised for like 2011 era odd future or whatever) but that albinis response was racist and and bigoted... you can complain about someones actions but it seems his main problem with them was that they were black

This. Also he used hate speech.

Point out where he indicates his issue is that they're black
btw, "niggering everything in sight" meant that they kept calling everyone and everything "nigga" not that they were blacking up the place

>Steve does not seem like a feminist lefty at all

Hahahaha you can't fucking possibly believe this in current year. Look who he's produced for, look at his quotes

Still hate speech that he has no right to use.

>he has no right to use.
Wrong