Transgender bathroom debate

I had a pretty shifty day so I'm hoping some of you can really make me laugh with your crazy and outlandish beliefs. I'd love to hear your thoughts!

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Shitty* day. Gotta love autocorrect!

I think gay people should all be stoned to death

The butthurt is going to be great after McCrory gets reelected. Fuck liberal feelings.

That's so interesting. Tell us more! Like how you came to feel this way etc.

Who?

Our governor

Oh that guy lol. Man the south is so backward. I feel embarrassed for those guys :/

Are you underaged?

No I'm in my 20s and fairly well-learned. Why do you ask?

I thought summer started in June

You sound underaged. Defending LGBT nonsense. There is no reason for men to be in the women's restroom.

I don't see the point in pandering to .5% of the population t bh.

The people sincerely wanting to use women's rooms are not men lol. It's hilarious to me that places like North Carloina lose their shit and spend all this money passing discriminatory and unenforceable laws to the detriment of their citizens and the conservative party as a whole.

This shit is so entertaining xD

>planting piece
>plants division

Yea sounds about right

I'm part of a massive liberal conspiracy that involves laughing at your ridiculous opinions. Honestly you have no idea how deep this goes.

If you were born with a penis, you aren't a woman. You can't change your biology. Cutting your penis off suddenly doesn't make you a woman.

Please, tell me more about who and what I am. We're so lucky to have you Sup Forums experts around to set us straight

Please explain to me your biology credentials. You're still a man, you still have the physical capability to overpower most woman. Your a gay man who likes to put on dresses and wigs to play dress up in. Are you planning on having your penis removed?

Homosexuals make less than 5% of population. Transgendered people way below 0,05. Why should a concept as well established as public bathrooms be bent to the will of such a small group?

It really depends on how feminine the penis is

Trannies should be shot

So stunning and brave. You truly are the woman of the year. You can relieve your boipussy from diarrhea in any bathroom with my female relatives.

I'm not a man. Doing hormones and everything :)

No plans currently for SRS but we'll see what the future holds. It would make it easier to wear certain clothes for sure lol :)

Because a decent society does what it can to meet the needs of everyone in it. And we face actual discrimination and all kinds of shit so it's the right thing to do.

Homosexuality and gender dysphoria are mental illnesses. Get help.

Burn in hell sodomite

The Oklahoma state legislature declared a "state of emergency" over trans bathroom use.

Quick, everyone panic!!

1. Take credit for flight which you didn't create or innovate

2. Sow the results of that plagiarism.

Karma sucks, huh? Maybe them Ohio boys at Picketts Charge didnt learn you tar heels well enough.

don't tell me what to do

You're a man if you have a dick, you can't just deny nature you degenerate

>completely ignores the biological aspect of the argument.

I've been baited, boys.

the needs of many are more important than needs of few

what about urinals? Will they have a place in a """"non-gender-binary-specific-spectrum""""" toilets? I'm pretty sure you can imagine that men whipping their penises out in the open aginst the wall would make women feel uncomfortable. On the other hand taking them away would be a huge inconvenience for 50% of population. Such a thing would not be fair, considering that the only basis for this change would be "muh feelings"

I really hope you are a troll

But this is an emergency ;(

*denies nature*

hmm seems to work just fine

Your argument is shit and not worth replying to. I'm convinced you guys don't even completely understand what you're trying to say when you talk about biology. Because I'm not denying my Y chromosome or anything. How exactly is biology involved here?

If you have XY chromosomes inside, you're male. If XX, you're female. If you don't you have a disability. If you identify otherwise you're a retard. If you "transitioned" you're an abomination.

Stop using smileys you schmuck

>not saging in a fag thread

most people would just tell you to hang yourself, i care enough to suggest you get help.

Do you consider yourself to be a woman? If so, you're wrong. At best, you're a male-to-female transgender, at worst, a man wearing womems' clothing.

Biologically wise, you are not female.

Change is hard, but humans are innovative and great at solving problems. This is a pretty shit reason for holding back progress lol

I'm a real life trans girl who is currently trolling people with laughable beliefs on a shitty web forum

I'm biologically male, psychologically and socially female. Still don't get the biology argument desu

xD

Thanks so much for your concern but I love my life lol. Have a sexy bf and everything :)

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If you think that it's all about biology you're retarded. Our judgments about others are based on how we percieve them, which isn't rooted in facts it's rooted in our beliefs. It's possible to get facts from this, but when you judge someone you get more than the facts of their characteristics, you inject your own beliefs and biases and make other inferences. If someone looks like a girl and you would percieve them as such then why force them to go into the mens room? And they don't look like a gorl objectivley, as there is no "objective" when determining male or female based on appearence, you look at physical traits and assume what those traits suggest. Trans people will try and correct their male traits, but there will always be things they can't get rid of. Many women have traits that appear male, and if you were judging by those traits you could categorize them as such even if it's wrong. While you may see someone and know/think they're trans there are other people who will think/know they are cis.
The point is trying to bar people from using public restrooms based on appearence is infantile and brain dead. There are going to be trans people that appear as their new gender flawlessly and there are cis people who look androgynous. What we will see and have started seeing is that cis people will be descriminated against because they look trans. Before this bathroom bullshit these problems weren't here, we didn't have people pretending to be trans to get into bathrooms and trans people used the bathroom they were comfortable with. This worked fine without regulation and I'm pretty sure it's a small number of you who would even see a trans person in the bathroom. Wanting to insert some government into here because you don't like tranies is fucking retarded and will come back to bite you when your taxes are raised and bathrooms have fees so the government can pay for your chip identifying you as your gender to use the bathroom.

whether you get biology or not doesn't make it wrong

it just means you're an idiot

hope you kill yourself when you turn 30 and realize what an ugly freak you've become

if women and men are the exact same, then how can you be born with a male or female brain?

get over yourself

>set your clock back 100 years
they literally want to return to last years conditions for admission to bathrooms by gender

How is it progress if it makes things more complicated? In what way does it benefit majority of people?

Besides, why did you call it a problem? Do you not realise how silly you sound?
How is taking away man's most natural and efficient way of defecating "progress"?

By "I don't get it" what I really mean is that I've yet to see a rational argument invoking biology that makes sense as a basis for anti-trans beliefs. It's like you guys are inventing liberal arguments to attack with "biology" when in reality you're missing the whole fucking point.

p funneh

See? Like this guy. He thinks being trans means I think there are no differences between the sexes, for some reason.

He is wrong, yet amusing. I love this board.

Lol

I don't understand why trans "people" don't just use the disabled bathrooms that most places have. You have men, women, and people who are [mentally] disabled.

If you can't only let in passable traps don't let in any traps desu. Shemales / sickos / perverts not encouraged. Just makes people uncomfortable.
A guy in a dress

Lol. Why do you think your opinions are right?

This guy is confusing defecation with urination. Confirmed biology major ;P

Teach me, oh wise one.

Post boipucci.

>psychologically and socially female

How can you say you're "psychologically" female?

That's as delusional as otherkin saying they're "psychologically" a lion.

You can only pretend and project what you THINK a woman thinks/feels/etc.

Anyone with an opinion on this is retarded.

where does it end? transsexuals and transvestites allowed into female sports teams, allowed into female prisons, given de facto female quota rights for hiring? what you assume is right is actually quite socially destructive.

>inb4 your boyfriend finds out you're a trap, rips your body to shreds, and dumps you in a swamp

Not surprised coming from Britain. When are y'all gonna go ahead and get the cctv's in your homes? More Government is better right ol' bean?

Faggots don't understand common sense like that.

bathrooms are segregated by sex for good reasons

transexual people shouldn't be allowed to simply choose whichever bathroom they want to use for the same reasons that straight cis-men are not allowed to

you're absolutely correct, i made a mistake, this happens at 3:30AM

however, instead of refuting my point you simply pointed out a mistake. Well done.

It means you are not nor will ever be a woman

We "wasted money" protecting the property rights of citizens from retarded pandering city councils.

And please, explain how it's discrimination.

you will be first in the chamber you hon piece of shit

We could debate the legitimacy of subjective experiences, but I feel like that would very easily devolve into a meaningless conversation about literally nothing.

Maybe a better question to ask is why does it matter if some people think they're the opposite sex?

My boyfriend is well aware of my penis.

Your point really wasn't.

Lol k

LOL

I didn't say anything about the state tho, just what I think would be good

boypussy or gtfo

I don't make the rules I just enforce them

tits too

Just make all bathrooms unisex so we can end these retarded hermaphrodite bathroom debate. We don't need shitty special snowflake signs.

Also lol at the faggot on the left with the obvious razor blade marks on his arm.

>This worked fine without regulation
Why don't you tell the Charlotte city council that?

>wanting to insert some government intervention because you hate trannies
This shit was started by pro-tranny pandering.

Why don't do some fucking research before you spout off with a wall of text full of bullshit?

he's ugly as fuck m8

>'self harm' scars
says it all really

Haha you're dating a faggot.

Maybe the reason why you aren't getting many serious replies is your cunty tone? Holy fuck, I can see your problem glasses through your typed words.

>Lol

Good response, you sure proved me wrong. I've completely changed my mind due to your thoughtful post.

Maybe someone can fill me in on how the brains of dems work, because I honestly don't get it.

Obviously you don't think bathrooms should be separated because of the biological differences between the sexes. So then, why? Why do you think there is a need for separate bathrooms at all? Or is the next step in true progressivism getting rid of gendered bathrooms altogether?

Nonsense transgender people are perfectly normal healthy people :^)

If you make a law restricting bathroom usage you're gonna need the state to enforce it. The only way to actually enforce that would be to have people guarding the restrooms checking birth cirtificares of anyone coming in. This is expensive and would make public bathrooms universally terrible. If you don't want to check borth cirtificates you could have them check genitals, which would be considered invasive and most people wouldn't like that, and trans people who've had surgery would still use them. If you base it on how the people appear then there will be cis people who can't use the bathroom because the guards think they're trans, and trans people that pass will use the restrooms they want.
There is no way to enforce this and it is a non issue considering it was fine before without regulation. Inviting the government to police bathrooms is short sighted and idiotic. If you support this you're as bad as any liberal who changes their opinion on issues when they effect them.

This is what I want. I'm tired of having to walk all the way to the other side of the building because some retarded designer put the woman's restroom and the men's restroom on the opposite sides of the building.

So because liberals want to do somthing retarded we should do somthing equally retarded in the other direction?

I'm better than ~95% of the people who post here. Which is not hard to accomplish lol. And I'm here to entertain myself above all else. Coming here is like reading the crazy letters people send in to the local paper about how Obama is a Muslim and trans people are actively looking to rape our women and children. That's the section I always flip to first.

Comedy gold :)

If someone wants to try to make an actual argument that could be interesting, but so far you've all been pretty disappointing. So trolling you with minimal effort (and maximum entertainment) is what it comes to :/

Red pill side effect story:

>be me
>enter burger restaurant today (yeah yeah whatever)
>order burg
>waiting for burg, have to take a piss
>walk to bathroom
>sign on door says "Bathroom closed for maintanence, please use women's room"
>immediately feel I am being tricked into some LGBT protest thing
>knock on women's room door, no answer
>slowly enter, waiting for someone inside to scream RAPE
>bathroom is empty, take a piss and leave, no big deal
>eat delicious American burger

I really though it was a some kind of trap at first senpai. Like the company was protesting the NC law or something by making men use the women's room.

Have I swallowed too many red pills?

>well-learned
oh my kek

the bolstering of intellect by leftists is still appaling to me, oh how often they have to project their "intelligence" as being above others

>are not men
yes they are, you fucking moron

just because you feel you are a woman, does not make you woman, youre still not a woman if you get sex reassignment surgery or take hormones for life, you are XY as a male,deal with it

.5? its even less than that

>fine before without regulation
Look, another person who has no idea what he's talking about.

Charlotte started this with an ordinance that would keep businesses from preventing people from using whichever bathroom they chose. The state law prevents a municipality from infringing property rights in this way. It wasn't some "lol, we hate trannies, let's make a law to show it". They had a damn good reason to make the law.

again, your feelings and "identity" dont mean shit in the objective reality we all live in. just because you deny it does not make you special

How is protecting property rights equally as retarded as infringing them?

Bathroom laws are literally retarded. If they can't pass they'll wait till they get home anyway.

It's all a set up so the feds can pass an invasive ass law, then we're fucked

I've got a question. Is there a difference between gender and sex? I've heard that your gender is what you feel you are and your sex is what you biologically are.

Is this true? Would that make a manwoman's gender female and their sex male?

>would make public bathrooms universally terrible.
Public restrooms are universally terrible already.

I'm convinced that OP is a massive troll but in case I'm wrong answer this.

If you actually read the NC Bathroom Bill you'd notice they recommend installing more private bathrooms in public buildings to accommodate these "special people" so why not just use those if you aren't comfortable with using your biological pre-determined bathroom?

There needs to be a law against having to pay money to take a shit. Like those bathroom doors with coin slots.

Gender and sex are interchangeable. SJWs conflate gender with gender roles.

>100 years

Try like 10?

Because those bathrooms are almost never convenient. There are less of them around, they're usually further away than the normal bathroom, and also they're pointless. I pee where I want and no law is going to stop me lol.

Like I said, without regulation it was fine. It wasn't until people stsrted making a big deal out of it and started making laws that it became an issue.

Businesses should be able to choose weather or not they want trans people in their bathrooms. If they want to waste money keeping trans people out they can do that. No one ever did before because that's retarded. The government shouldn't be policing those things though.

just use the disabled restroom

The ones that say "out of order"?

But the law aims to fix this problem? How is that a bad thing?
>I pee where I want
And I hope that thinking gets you arrested for voyeurism you little faggot.

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10 or 100 or 240 it makes no difference, our stance on "lgbt rights" is the same now as it always was; namely: they have the exact same rights as everyone else.

>better than ~95% of the people who post here

*at taking dick?


Yes sir, but not all of us share the same life goals

Again, tell the Charlotte city council that, since they were the ones who started trying to police bathrooms. Place the blame where it belongs.

>well-learned
I am so glad to meet another educated Individual in this intellectual wasteland. Well met, m'trap.