Name a better way to govern a country

Name a better way to govern a country

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Literally any other system. Even straight-up fascism is better-- at least they're not lying to themselves and everyone else about the nature of their system and its results.

unless applied wordwide, communism is doomed to failure
take over the planet, kill roughly half the population, then start the golden age if humanity

Capitalism

Capitalist democracy
EZ

> then start the golden age if humanity
Is this a YLYL thread? Cuz I just lost

anything other than what op posted

Hi Dimitri, I don't have anywhere to live, so I'm going to live in your house. Hope you don't mind, but if you do, there's nothing you can do about it

>take over the planet, kill roughly half the population, then start the golden age if humanity
Even then, human nature will fuck it all up. You cannot make a system that relies on humanity achieving utopia in order to work.It will fail every time, most likely in a horrible way. (e.g. literally every case of real-world communism/socialism that ever existed).

Capitalism mixed with socialism and governed by a democratic republic.

Capitalism for the innovated, socialism for the complacent

In a perfect world Communism would be the best, its the greed and corruption of faggots like you that ruin it

>starving 100's of millions of citizens
>better
inb4
>b-but it hasn't been done right yet

Literally anything else

It's one thing to kill other people in other countries to survive, its another thing to kill your own people to survive

In a perfect world *Insert_ism_here* would be the best, its the greed and corruption of faggots like you that ruin it


And what a boring, complacent shit hole a utopianistic society would be for humans.. We aren't even close to that level..

Greed motivates progression, it's a double edged sword.

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Communism isn't a form a government so OP and everyone else in this thread are stupid in addition to being faggots.

>Capitalism mixed with socialism
There is no such thing. They are mutually exclusive; capitalism relies completely on individual ownership, socialism relies completely on state/public ownership.You probably mean capitalism with social welfare programs.

>public service announcement: not even Scandanavian countries consider themselves to be remotely socialist. There has never been a single successful socialist government

>capitalism with social welfare programs
what a nice way to sugar coat it, good job user

Violent Despotism.

>implying
I never said what system I prefer, just that ANY system that relies on some bullshit utopian ideal to even begin to work is fucking retarded.

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>Greed motivates progression, it's a double edged sword.

Ugh, I have to agree with this.. Humanities "7 deadly sins" produce the worst.. and the best.

I'd call the it the 7 natural obsessions of man.

>Communism isn't a form a government
>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
In political and social sciences, communism is the philosophical, social, political and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society
What the fuck do you think a government is, you tumbling, tumbling dickweed?

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technocratic feudalism, duh

Where are you so I can punch you?

maybe

in my bed

How big is your bed?

Liberal welfare capitalism.

If you fucking suck at life, the government will keep you from dying until you can learn to stop sucking at life - and if you don't suck at life, the government will leave you the fuck alone and let you do your thing. There are laws to stop you being unfairly screwed by businesses, but also, the government doesn't have any surplus or production, so they're ultra-reliant on the support of the electorate and thus find it more difficult to abuse their power.

See: Japan, UK, Canada, Switzerland. Not bad places to live.

>capitalism with social welfare programs
Yes, social welfare, like literally every government that ever existed has provided. Don't confuse economic models with welfare: an economic model dictates the market/industry, social welfare promotes societal integrity. Is this really that far above your head, user?

>socialism:
>public ownership of the means of production
>an idealistic utopia that cannot exist

>social welfare
>ensuring some of the basic necessities to the public
>running a country based on the reality of imperfect political systems

If anything it would be opposite: Communism works better in smaller settings, like local communities/villages but not much larger.
A facet of human nature is greed, so there will always be people who strive for enough influence or standing in a society to ask for extra (see protectionism, fiefdom, inheritance, and other lasting concepts from all of human history).
Communism works best when the distribution is as equal as possible, which becomes harder to do the more people there are to consume resources

Monarchy

Man, I'm so tempted to go out with a swastika armband so a faggot like you tries anything and I can have the satisfaction of breaking someone's teeth

not big enough to fit your mom in it, its a double

>Communism works better in smaller settings
This.
>A facet of human nature is greed
Which is why communism only works on small levels. Look at commonwealths: they work great with no more than 2k people. That's because if Joe Schmoe gets 9483 extra sheep, and overworks the land, the rest of the community will shun the fuck out of him. if you have millions of people, no one even knows who Joe Schmoe is. The only way to prevent greed in these situations is for everyone to know everyone else. So there is a societal pressure to not be a douchebag.

Benevolent socialist dictatorship. Working for the good of everyone but without the bureaucratic nonsense of democracy.

My mum barely fits in a queen what yo talking about

OK, wait, don't do that, That it is only wrought this thing, which is found in the small of communism levels. See public places: how big of 2k. This is what gets you out of Joe Schmoe (9), 483 sheep and overworks the ground, and the rest of the company will suck it out of him good. no one knows who the thousands of men are, yet if Joe Schmoe did it. It is because it is only in this way covetousness, let it not even in these situations, every, every, another to know. From the social pressure, great in the anus so that he would not be a douche of a bag.

Yeah. they surely picked the right way to govern a country. No geopolitical mistakes there, no siree. No draconian domestic policies designed to detain and suppress public dissent. No executions to maitain public order, no need for a secret police to spy on and abduct citizens. No climate of fear and oppression, just a happy fantasy land for all and sundry. No military coups to try to usurp the Leader, no grumbling discontent met with the iron fist of a totalitarian regime, no loss of lives due to disasterous wars of aggressive expansion. Just a long and glorious legacy of success and happiness!

GOOD JOB BOYS! A+ FOR EFFORT!

You have never lived in a country run by communism have you?

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have you?

我住在中國

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Just killing yourself

wanna be a communist?

then join a commune, you fucking poser

First off, Stalinism has nothing to do with Communism. It's just another form of autocracy.

I, for one, am a big fan of this thing called democracy. I think we should have as much democracy as possible. And I think it should extend to the workplace. I think those who work in the factory should decide how the factory is run.

The western system of Capitalism is also just another form of autocracy, where some wealthy and remote "owner" is given absolute power over so many lives.

Ok Yes. You can also read your own country with numbers. It is not geopolitical, it is not wrong, it is not your Majesty thank you the war is over. The state's strict plan is designed not to deter dissension but deliver us from evil. There were no executions to protect those who were executed, forced to be released to the Maya secret police as armed civilians. : Violence and the fear of God in heaven fools all men with sock puppets and tape, and all men, as though it were on earth. They try to get the people's possessions by the sword like a kabob and meet you with their fists. The greatest absolute government substitute for the soul of a coup, the dangers of general disaster and disease at risk from war. Lions have many glories, happiness, latex joy!

Boys! Effort +? is fine

Unless you lived in Catalonia in 1936, nobody has.

Socialism without democracy is not socialism.

Self governance /thread

>And what a boring, complacent shit hole a utopianistic society would be for humans.
If you're so broken that you aren't internally motivated to make anything better for yourself or actually interact with people to get work done, I don't think we're the defective ones.

Then the problem is that countries have been allowed to get too large, such that a group of citizens can't go beat the shit out of the head honcho when he's being a dick.
>A facet of human nature is greed
No, that's purely social. If it were natural people wouldn't need to be repeating it all the time and drilling it into children's heads in school.

Indeed. You should look up Anarcho-Syndicalism :)

>Don't and say you did then talk about it after other guy does that it was your practical stock management that he coat tailed off of. Opinions be damned.

Anarchism

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>Then the problem is that countries have been allowed to get too large
The limit to personal recollection of specific human identity and interactions is about 2000 people. Are you really advocating that we should cull the human population that low, user? Or limit government sizes that low? It's either going to be completely evil, or completely useless.

>No, that's purely social.
>implying that social interactions such as greed are not part of human nature
Greed exists in literally every society, of every size. It's how societies deter greed that is different.

Under capitalism, man exploits man.

Under communism, it's just the opposite.

You're a wise guy aren't you?

People need to stop associating national socialism with genocides, just force unwanted people the fuck out and live peacefully in a natsoc nation.

Yes, on the obtuse situation when never questioned want though appearances otherwise might be similar.

No, I'm advocating that we should split up. Trying to get 350 million people to all believe the same shit is a mistake. Groups of two million seem sufficiently functional, yet not so big as to require an overnight trip to give the ruler a piece of your mind.
There is literally no need for population growth that doesn't arise out of usury. A steady-state population will be fine, or if it comes down to it, newly oversized states can split up.
>Greed exists in literally every society, of every size. It's how societies deter greed that is different.
Alright, but the expression of greed is more or less deterred, or in the case of liberal capitalism, encouraged.

This is made into a state of dull or acute, on being questioned, that there was no other way it is clear that, despite the similarity.

>what is corporatism

It is not I, so that I do not delay asking questions was cut up. 350 million trying to get all of them, it is a mistake to the dung of those who believe in the same.
A steady state population will end, and that is it possible states have recently cut an oversized questioning.
> Desire in the letter every society, in every size. Other than greed discourage the partnership.
Formerly it was possible, more or less deterred, or covetousness, let it, but in such a case, however, since the expression of the liberal capitalism, went on to encourage.

Ikr Soviet Russia is trash.

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>pro-tip: you can't

Damn youre such a faggot.

>Do not do that. Do not tell me what you said after someone else did it. It was your practical stock management. Commit opinions.

>groups of 2 million
>population of Earth: 7.442 billion
>total governments of 2 million: 3721
We can't even begin to get a bit over 100 countries to coexist. Splitting up into groups of 2m would accomplish nothing. Cities would be split, large land resources would be managed horribly. It's just not feasible.

I had the idea of making sub-governments of 2000 people at the lowest levels. Then each group of 2000 would elect a representative, and that representative would be part of a larger committee of 2000 groups, etc. You would have three levels of government, worldwide, where representatives could interact on a level where they know everyone. It's a thought, but it would change the nature of government completely.

>implying that mistakes invalidate ideologies
>implying that the capitalist empires didn't simply export their fear and terror to the hinterlands
You got a lot of capsplaining to do.

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GET OFF DISCORD FAGGOT

COMMUNISM DOESN'T WORK FAGGOTS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA if a bunch of men who are willing to kill millions couldn't make it happen what makes you think a group consisted of feminists, shitskins, and sjws will do it right? Being this stupid HAHAHAHAHAH

Communism doesn't work because people like to own stuff.

Why are you even on this site? Fuck off already it's obvious you're only here after the presidential election.

>Don't and say you did then talk about it after other guy does that it was your practical stock management that he coat tailed off of. Opinions be damned.

>workers of the world unite
LOL it always ends in an authoritarian govt with one main dictator. b-b-b-but this time we'll get it right huh guys? Oh what's that?
>oh what's that buddy yeah Cuba is suffering and barely has internet and has ppl leaving by the thousands But hmmmm you know they have healthcare and free edumacatyyyyionnnn

greed manifests in the hearts and minds of every communist leader.

Greed is greed, you just have the audacity to claim your greed is more of a righteous quality than mine and you're willing to kill me over it.

Contrary to popular belief, communism isn't incompatible with private ownership.

>We can't even begin to get a bit over 100 countries to coexist
You know why this is, don't you?
>Cities would be split
It's not as if there's not precedent for that already.
>large land resources would be managed horribly.
MBA student spotted, arguing for his own job. I don't see how this would be the case, at all.
>I had the idea of making sub-governments of 2000 people at the lowest levels. Then each group of 2000 would elect a representative
Decent idea, but the actual number of people that one can be acquainted with is 150. You still have the problem, well, I think it's a problem anyway, of this representative of 2000 representing only the 150 that provide him the most sex/money/service/whatever. If this dude's away socializing with his own chosen class, how is he representing the people other than nominally?
Direct democracy is where it's at. Hierarchy a shit.

>feminists, shitskins, and sjws
>literally neoliberal market and competition fetishists
>and you think they want to create communism
>being this stupid

That's learned, not innate. Children grow out of that, eventually, except for americans apparently.

Shouldn't you be the one going back to le_donald?

but it's exactly the opposite
families are inherently communist, because they're the only example of people you care enough about to work like that without the expectation of immediate compensation and simply to see them do well
nobody is going to put in that kind of labour for some smelly commie they've never met

This comment made no damn sense you retard. What the hell are you trying to say.
>black girl
Yup most likely the faggot who cries about trump on here and supports antifa I'm already calling it

I don't go on plebbit you fag. And why are commie gags even on this site? Go to fucking r/anarchy and join your faggot antifa circle jerk.

>greed manifests in the hearts and minds of every communist leader.
>leader
Communism is stateless. The problem with the proletariat is that they don't kill their leaders often enough. The same could be said of liberal governments of the west, tbqhfampai. Statecraft is a problematic art/science.
>implying that the moral argument for capitalism isn't based upon the artificial righteousness of greed

>not American
Quick question where are you from?

>That's learned, not innate
>the desire to posses surplus for ones self is not natural
for real tho why do you bother, not even Sup Forums is dumb enough to fall for this tier of agitprop

"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time"

-Winston Churchill

>Fascism
>not lying
You're from pol aren't you kek

Took you long enough for muh no real comunism

>feminists, sjws, shitskins, beta males
Yes that is what your side is consisted of

Kill yourself, jew.

>making no arguments
>but criticizing everyone else without any stated reasons
>using ad hominem as if it's a legitimate tactic
what are you even doing, user?

Leftists don't revolt because their ideology systematically strips everyone of the discipline required to be capable of revolt and the family and community ties required to be motivated to revolt.

People do their hardest work for people they care about - that's why nobody's ever worked hard for a smelly commie they've never met ever in history

See then theres the people that dont realise that we wont even be working in 100 or less years, what then? it surely wont be capitalism. The human race is guaranteed to move away from capitalism because it simply isnt for the many but it benefits the few.

Literally just genociding the entire human population, because it gets to the end result of communism quicker.

US, but I didn't drink the koolaid.

>winston churchill
>right-authoritarian
nah

neoliberals are not leftists, jewnigger