2017

2017

>not owning a gun

why?

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Because I have 17 guns.

Canadian

When are you going to post a gun OP - all I see is trash.

problem solved

Cause my country I don't need one as it doesn't have a horrible gun culture due to proper gun control

That's not a gun, it's a hand remover

Let me guess? A Glock?

What does gun culture have to do with "need," and what makes it "horrible?"

You're not one of those socialist communist depressing yuropoors are you?

>using yuropoors
>doesn't know why
You probably heard that at walmart and know you repeat it here because no one irl wants to interact with you. I bet you have never left the USA

"proper gun control"
you mean you are a subject to your statist regime with no possible recourse as a populace... and somehow this is "proper".

Since owning a gun but not practicing often literally makes me less safe and I have better things to do with my time than spending a couple hours a week maintaining my skills with a weapon.

I've never been to Wal-Mart but I have been to several countries. Have you been outside your oppressive, over-taxed tin pot dictatorship?

One 9mm, one .45. I'm not full on operator, but I can go full on perforator if I need to.
Oh, they're not that bad. The original Ravens were cheap but solidly built pocket pistols, easily of equal quality to the Italian and German models that were banned for import in '68, creating the niche the company was founded to fill. It was just everything that came after--Jennings, Jimenez, Bryco, Phoenix, etc--that were hot molten bullshit.

The Raven .25 was a perfectly serviceable piece for what it was meant for.

no possible recourse as a populace... yeah right. against government forces, a personal weapon is a poor choice.
Poison, propaganda, IEDs and information are what you use in asymmetric battles-- if you think a gun will help -- your right-a gun will help them identify you as the opposing force, dumbass

you are only proving my point.
the citizen doesnt have enough power, and you are arguing for even less.

>Over-taxed
Tell me about your healthcare and your freedom please

>have been in several countrie
>doesn't know a dictatorship looks like
lol, you couldn't be more american

I own that gun bro. along with many many others. love the Raven aesthetic though

All these fine guns to choose from, and you pick a Raven "Niggamatic".

Just live in a country where 7 kids don't die from guns a day, stoked about it too

hey fucker they're charming as fuck and certain people like the vintage Saturday night specials. myself being one of them

Probably all the inncoent deaths make it horrible but that's just me

Not living in 2018............ Fag

>Just live in a country where 7 kids don't die from psychopaths a day, stoked about it too

fixed it for you.
if someone wants to kill someone else bad enough, they will find a way.

Ain't hating. Cheap gun waaaay better than no gun!

... Poison, propaganda, IEDs and information...

If I spend $100 dollars at the hardware store and pool supply store, and pass out some cigarettes to the homeless downtown, I could do more damage to the state government than 5 dudes with an arsenal

think about it

Weird that they seem to do it easier I countries where you can just buy guns though huh
Must be a weird coincidence

so lol... make guns illegal... make "illegal" explosives instead.. you unwittingly proved another point.

laws dont matter to people who are intent on killing people, the method doesnt matter.. so making a tool illegal kinda doesnt do much either.

i live in a nice neighborhood with very few niggers

I just post the Raven to get the haters reved up. Lots of people have nostalgia or the little .25 too.

amen to that. I own several nice pistols too and ARs, but there's just something about them cheap guns that i love, lol. here's another relatively cheap gun with custom grips I put on it

Name a regime that was ever overthrown with the tools you're listing, without the use of firearms. I'll wait. Go on. Even one.

Mao was right about one thing, power grows from the barrel of a gun. Marx knew it, Castro knew it, Pinochet knew it, everyone who's overthrown a government in modern history knew it. If you think you can circumvent that fact with the Anarchist Cookbook and a Crimethinc pdf, you're fucking fooling yourself.

>pool supply store
you gonna dump chlorine in the water?
>cigarettes to the homeless
The homeless have no value.

come back to me when you solve knife murders.
oh you cant.
must be cuz its not the tool, its the individual.

I have a Bersa Firestorm 380 auto. Almost identical to the Thunder.

This thread needs more revolvers

It's 'easy' killing that's the problem.

If you have the discipline and commitment to learn how to kill people like a black belt can or the knowledge of how to make chemical weapons, those skills and discipline preclude actually killing anyone casually -- those sort of folk only kill for strong reasons.

The ease of guns and easily accessible guns is the problem.

Arguments that people will kill anyway are disingenuous -- evidence of many other countries says otherwise

Nice! I paid like 250 for mine and it's seriously a great gun. I would and do trust my life to it. what's the difference between them? bersa has some fairly new pistols that look really good...in 9mm and 45,all that jazz

you are thinking war, and defeat/overthrow, and I'm thinking assignation and public opinion.

also -- did the USA achieve it's goals in Vietnam?

chemical weapons, idiot.

homeless people are very useful to cheaply keep tabs on the type people that work downtown -- like state governors and bankers

Evidence from countries with banned guns points towards an attempt to cover up gang violence using guns constantly and that more people end up stabbed than ever before. Rape, property crime, and assault are all significantly higher in countries banning firearms. What's even more sad is they don't report or underreport the statistics because the USA is the only country in the world that requires governmental transparency.

I don't blast now I make ammo move

>no possible recourse as a populace

realistically, in the US, it isn't something you need worry about... you can try to use your guns y'all quaeda style and get into stand offs with the feds over your cattle rights in nevada or whatever... and then risk getting shot or facing federal charges

aside from that it just doesn't have much use in that context - self defence is a more reasonable argument

you just voted in a 'populist' nationalist president and he can't even get his muslim ban approved even after changing it to include a token non-mulsim country


your separation of courts, congress, the executive etc.. is already strong enough to stop any would be dictator

>chemical weapons
like what?

certain cunts, have to go to prison to learn, why..

so fuck you faggot, go defend my rights

So what you're saying is, I'm thinking victory, you're thinking make yourself a nuisance until you inevitably get caught and face capital punishment? Hey, if that's how you roll, more power to you. You do you.
>also -- did the USA achieve it's goals in Vietnam?
What bearing does that have on the conversation? Are you under the impression the Viet Cong didn't use guns?

I'm not a nigger or a redneck, that's why.

Because I'm fucking poor and I'm still waiting to make money. I barely make enough to survive (literally my checking account bounces off zero every month) so I can't afford a gun.

Rest assured as soon as buying a gun won't cause me financial ruin, I'll be getting one.

Wife owns a Jimenez .32 it's a reliable little gun only complaint she has is a tough slide spring

because my country is retardet

Chlorine gas, user. He's talking about chlorine gas, hence the reference to pool supply stores. Keep up, this ain't exactly rocket science. Although it is science.

Cos long-term alcoholism gave me the shakes. Its hard enough to drink a cup of tea, let alone load, aim, or shoot a gun. Its safer for everyone involved if I just stutter at them and hope they take pity.

Nice neighborhood
Few niggers

Pick one faggot

do you even know how to make chlorine gas?

>USA is the only country in the world that requires governmental transparency

usnews.com/news/best-countries/best-transparency

yup, keep beating that drum.

As for the
>"Rape, property crime, and assault are all significantly higher in countries banning firearms"
Given what is considered assault in various counties, and the selection nature of prosecution in the USA, the few apple to apple statistics can easily be charted as "how much did that county what to spend on legal fees"

It's almost a 1:1 relationship between money spend on prosecution, and crime conviction rate (and thus crime rate) in every modern democracy throughout the world

Well sir, I pay 17.5% total tax (that includes federal income, state income, property and sales), my tax-levied Obamacare costs me another ~5.5% so I pay a total of 23% of my income TOTAL for taxes, social security and world-class health care. Which I would guess is about half what you pay depending on whose socialized health care framework your backwoods country stole their system from, as Australia, Canada and UK are all around ~55% total taxes.

>you couldn't be more american
Thank you very much, that makes my day.

I'd tell you to get on my level, but it's literally not possible for you to do, with your socialist "progressive" government stifling your creativity, income, freedom of speech and possibilities while you sit on the internet and bemoan the world's greatest and only remaining global superpower anonymously.

Cheers my dude! Maybe one day you can stow away on a boat headed for my excellent country.

>not owning a ritsu

I don't wanna be that shill, but have you ever checked out the sweepstakes where they give away guns? They take a bare minimum of effort to enter, and if you're lucky, fuck yeah, free guns. Mind you, you'd still have to scrape up the money for a transfer fee to have it shipped to your local FFL licensed gunstore, but we're talking about forty bucks.

I'm sure a lot aren't legit and are basically scams to get emails to spam with advertising, but the ones run by American Handgunner, the NRA, and directly by manufacturers like Benelli and Mossberg are pretty trustworthy. Might be worth looking into just to take your chances. Just saiyan.

I tried once, but all I got were these gay-ass crystals.

there's quite a few interesting chlorine based compounds that can really ruin anyone's day
NCCl is one

Not sure where you got your numbers from...

55% tax in Australia is flat rate for very high earners, then you start deductions and benefits and exceptions and shit and that'll drop to under 20%

Shit, I pay like 20% income tax on around 65,000 a year and I'll end up with about 15% of taxes paid being refunded.

The GST and sales tax on some items is fucking ludicrous, but everyone pays those regardless of income.

Chemistry ain't hard -- but chlorine gas is pretty weak compared to what can be made with even 95% pure reagents -- y'all think small

you fail to realize that your employer pays a matching amount for for social security, unemployment, and health insurance -- these are 'hidden taxes' that means most americans' effective tax rates are nearly double what they think they are

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life.

I don't own a gun because it would be too easy to kill myself.. it's why I have a baseball bat for protection.. much harder to kys with

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health insurance:
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fact dude. to hire someone at a $50k/yr wage costs the employer 75-80K/year

it's dumb, yes, but it is true.

2017

>owning a gun

why?

Yeah, its pretty much the same the world over. Factor in insurances, holidays and the rest of the kaboodle and being a legit employer sucks.

My employer paying business-related taxes somehow increases my personal tax burden? Strange that my bank account never noticed.

Is this how socialist governments get people to willingly pay more taxes, with this ignorant counter-logic?

don't believe in guns

Well, they don't believe in you either.

>Live in a country where murder rate is low
>gun laws are restrictive,
>gun violence is low,
>our white people arn't afraid of our own shadows
>monkeys are kept at a minimum
>only allow immigrants that develop the economy not put a strain on it.

Don't need it.

Its nice to see your education system in action. It confirms what the rest of the world has long suspected.

It is not nice to see such jealousy-driven pettiness from subjugated peasants.

If you turned some of that fire inwards perhaps you could turn your country around and in two hundred years rival the United States of America.

But probably not, they've got you too complacent on the government dole. Juuuust satisfied enough not to better yourself, but not so downtrodden that you'd consider resisting. We have the same problem in the United States with the welfare state and black culture specifically. It's disheartening to see, here or there.

Welp, I've got to get some sleep. I'm going shooting tomorrow before work.

Because my home country keeps guns away from people who would go on a suicidal rampage. It sucks because that's exactly what I'd want to do.

Because im on 5150

> I'm going to go now because I have no argument and am running out of insults. If I get the last word on an internet argument, I win.

ftfy

Living in yuropoor

god choose me a shitty nation with shitty cuckold law

2017

>owning a gun

why? what are you so afraid of, OP? what 3rd world country do you live in?