Why are you not a vegan user?
How can you still eat animals after knowing that it's the leading cause of heart disease and cancer? Not to mention it's morally retarded.
Are you at caveman-level intelligence or do you know that the modern man no longer needs to kill to survive. Vote with your wallet user.
> Not to mention it's morally retarded.
Expand on this - show your work.
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We omnivores may be more susceptible to heart disease, but you vegan fags are pure cancer.
In what context would you assume eating meat is morally acceptable for the modern man? I will elaborate and argue with you as much as you like.
I'm working on it. Land/air meat's no big loss, but fish is harder to ditch, and I do love me some cheese. I'll probably die of cancer.
I think it is you who is pure cancer.
I'm from Wisconsin. Cheese is the hardest, especially since my girlfriend can't give it up.
You lurk so hard. Also you're not American because you've slept through like 2-3 threads.
You've made the assertion. It's on YOU to justify the assertion, don't ask me to provide your logic for you.
You've said it's morally retarded.
Okay, great - now proceed to explain how.
Wisco here too. It's not like I have to have it on everything, either. I just love a bit of nice fancy cheese.
Onus is on you pal. You made the claim. You provide the information
Because they're delicious. Everyone dies some day. I'd rather die happy knowing I've eaten lots of tasty burgers.
But I don't know where your flaw in logic lies. Do you love animals but think eating them is okay?
"I Do Not Need To Be Vegan To Love Animals?"
In order to eat meat, an animal lover must be comfortable with the sexual violation of cows, pigs, sheep, goats and other beings via artificial insemination. In order to drink milk, an animal lover must be comfortable with the separation of a mother cow from her calf and with the raising of that calf in a veal crate for the few months it is permitted to live. In order to eat eggs, an animal lover must be comfortable with the crushing and suffocation of billions of male chicks per year, since males are not useful to the egg industry. None of these things are acts of love.
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Wow u relly trolld me
is it past your bedtime yet?
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That image is the most retarded thing I've ever seen. Vegans statistically are more likely to be in shape and watch what they eat, vegans make up about 1% of the population and most likely aren't overweight.
Omnivores make up the majority of America, of which is the fattest place on Earth. Being an omnivore has fuck all to do with dying of heart disease, being a fat piece of shit that eats too much of anything is almost 100% the reason.
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>but eating meat is my personal choice.
Simply because a thing is condoned by law or society does not make it ethical or moral. Looked at differently, it is logically inconsistent to claim that it is wrong to hurt animals like cats and dogs and also to claim that eating animals like pigs and chickens is a matter of choice, since we do not need to eat them in order to survive. So it is clear then, that eating meat is only a matter of choice in the most superficial sense because it is both ethically and morally wrong to do so.
Have you, though? Most burgers are shite. Like, throw some cheese, bacon and mayo on a Boca burger and I doubt most could tell the difference. Really good burgers are like 1 in 50.
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I love rekt threads yo. Looking at meat doesn't trigger me.
I ate meat for a majority of my current life.
Found the highschool newfag though. Kys.
I fought in Nam for this shit.
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In order to eat plants, a veterinarian must be comfortable with forced pollination of plants. Don't act morally superior when your food choices support plant rape.
For the freedom of opinion, speech, and choice?
Thanks man. Thanks. No sarcasm. Although America isn't perfect.
I fought your mom for this shit.
not who you were replying to, but
i don't think you could make a case for it's morality, nor do i think you could make a case for it's immorality, eating meat has been and still is for most of the world, a necessity. do we disavow our distant ancestors for the great animal genocide that happened when the african forests dried up and we had to move into the fields to hunt for food? and if meat is the primary and necessary source of nutrients for some people in the world, then it would be immoral to limit their capability to eat meat - because it infringes one of the most basic conditions of existence, the urge for survival. do you call a tiger killing and eating a gazelle "immoral"? i would call it tragic, not immoral, and by the same token, i would call our basic necessity for eating meat tragic, not immoral.
that being said, as the world progresses and we can work towards reducing tragedy as much as possible, and if we ever got to the point where eating meat isn't necessary, then yes, i think we could call unnecessary killing of animals for tastier food immoral. but until that point, it's necessary, and necessarily tragic.
And the “logical” extension of this retarded logic is All living things deserve love and protection including bacteria, insects, invertebrates, etc...
You are bitch lasagna. Please go away
>Not triggered
>kys
It's simple you faggot. I haven't eaten animal products in 37 years now. I've never been a Vegan. It's likely I'll never be, shrt of going full retard and losing my mind. Simply put, eating healthy does not require an ideology, you misguided shit for brains.
Vegan's are the worst of hypocrites in my book.
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heart related deaths are caused by clogged arteries (smoking, and greasy foods are thought to be the culprit) and a parasite which eventually stops your heart.
"Vegans draw the line at hurting sentient individuals. Plants lack nerves, let alone a central nervous system, and cannot feel pain or respond to circumstances in any deliberate way (not to be confused with the non-conscious reactions they do have). Unlike animals, plants lack the ability or potential to experience pain or have sentient thoughts, so there isn't an ethical issue with eating them.
The words 'live', 'living' and 'alive' have completely different meanings when used to describe plants and animals. A live plant is not conscious and cannot feel pain. A live animal is conscious and can feel pain. Therefore, it's problematic to assert that plants have evolved an as-yet undetectable ability to think and feel but not the ability to do anything with that evolutionary strategy (e.g. running away, etc.). Regardless, each pound of animal flesh requires between four and thirteen pounds of plant matter to produce, depending upon species and conditions. Given that amount of plant death, a belief in the sentience of plants makes a strong pro-vegan argument."
Does being vegan grant immortality? Because if it doesn't, then what's your argument?
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goes good with rodkål ...
Holy shit. Thos things are morally retarded.
Absolute pornography. God damn you.
I don't fell like being weaker than a twig
The key is always a good dry rub
I agree that if you can't go to the supermarket and buy meat or obtain it without reasonable ease (mind you- vegetables will ALWAYS be cheaper and of easier access to you. they take less water, nutrients, etc) than you should obviously eat until you are fat and happy. Otherwise if you're not literally starving or don't have a gun to your head, you shouldn't choose meat.
>Most burgers are shite.
If you're a vegetarian you probably think so.
I can enjoy an average burger. If someone wants to sell me a veggy burger that tastes as good as a normal burger, I don't have any issue with that, but don't expect me to pay extra for it.
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You haven't eaten animal products in 37 years but you're not a vegan? It seems to me you don't know how classifications work. Yes, you are a vegan, and you are also a contrarian.
If you have to wrap your tenderloin in bacon, your tenderloin's shit. And you're fine with wasting bacon.
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Answer the trips, why your picture has only one 100% scala on the left?
Because I'm not homosexual?
> But I don't know where your flaw in logic lies.
Irrelevant. You've made an objective claim: it is immoral to eat animals. I'm asking you to describe the logic that got you there.
> Do you love animals but think eating them is okay?
What if the animal dies of old age or other natural causes? What if I raise the animal myself and kill it humanely? What if I'm too poor to buy all the food I need, and supplement my diet with meat that I fish and hunt?
> In order to eat meat, an animal lover must be comfortable with the sexual violation of cows, pigs, sheep, goats and other beings via artificial insemination.
False. In order to eat meat, someone must acquire meat. Factory farming of meat is one method of acquiring meat, but it is not the only possible method. You are appealing to emotion, not to logic - "Factory farming is horrible, if you wuv the fwuffie animaws, you can't eat meat!" while you casually disregard the entire spectrum of other methods for acquiring meat to eat.
I agree with this actually, Having tried it once.
See the picture here
Most living things are incapable of feeling and/or loving oneanother.
Sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how dumb that hat looks on you.
*4 years. Was vegetarian for 6 year prior. Was an omnivote for 22 years prior.
Open your mind.
>Why are you not a vegan user?
>How can you still eat animals after knowing that it's the leading cause of heart disease and cancer?
Because I hate you and want to do the opposite of whatever you believe in.
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I'm not a vegetarian and I think so. The average burger is a bunch of salty, greasy bullshit.
there is no morality in diet.
Jesus, AGAIN you dumb PETA fuck?!?
How many times a day are you going to run the exact same thread?
We get it, you are getting paid by the libshill fags to run your propaganda here, but the least you could do is to mix it up a little.
For christsake, you literally are posting the exact same images over and over and over again that they provided to you.
What a loser you must be. Especially thinking that you or your dumbass petafags are going to change people's eating habits with threads on Sup Forums to a crowd that doesn't give a fuck about anything and posts gifs of dogs being beaten with a shovel daily.
GTFO already!!!
I created and maintained 3 gore threads today on b. Seeing meat doesn't trigger me. Do you think this is tumblr, newfag? Go back to tumblr, seriously. You will trigger the femafags there. Not here.
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I think americans are not thanked enough for making some of the best food. Everyone is taking hamburgers etc for granted and there are even people looking down upon 'fast food'.
I would end it right fucking now if I could never eat a burger in my life again. I don't care if it's healthy or not, it tasted fucking good. If you want to life healthy stop smoking, drinking and taking drugs first before you start to destroy the things you can enjoy on a daily basis altogether.
I am 79 and I still dont have column cancer while eating meat every day. Are you right?
>Maintained 3 gore threads
>Trying this hard
I think you grossly underestimate the state of poverty in this world, a starving child, a homeless person, even you if starving, would eat whatever is thrown your way. It's in your bones, you want to survive, in whatever way you can. These moral systems are quaint, but your instincts penetrate much deeper.
As to vegetables being cheaper - sure - but how much vegetables do you need to get the same amount of proteins and nutrients? Have you any study that shows the dollar per gram of protein on average?
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Actually, dying of diseases that are directly caused by eating meat are prominent after age 50.
If you wanted to live forever at this day- you would want to prolonge your life until technology caught up and could restore you to not an old, bald, ugly piece of shit. So yes. Veganism might grant you immortality. Or an early death at 50. You never know.
Faggot, that is gore, necrophilia and anibalism. Animals are humans, ask everyone.
No hats, just a beanie. But let's see here:
veg·an
/ˈvēɡən/
noun
1. a person who does not eat or use animal products
hmm. I know you don't want the baggage that the word vegan carries, but you are by definition a vegan.
Topfuckingkek user, you are killing me.
>Why are you not a vegan user?
Because I enjoy meats and animal products.
>leading cause of heart disease and cancer
correlation =/= causation
Most people don't think about what they eat while anyone that is vegetarian / vegan has to think about what they eat meaning they generally have healthier diets.
An omnivore that watches what they eat has no greater health risks than a vegetarian or vegan.
>do you know that the modern man no longer needs to kill to survive
Just because you have never done the deed yourself doesn't mean death isn't necessary to maintain our standard of living. How many shredded corpses do you think it takes to fertilize those fields of vegetables?
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Shows what you know about your own stance. Veganism is a moral and or ethical stance. It's an ideology I have no part in. I do not care about animals at all, in fact kill them often. If it wear legal, I'd kill you and feed you to a friend. Eating a so called "whole foods diet", as I do and have the vast majority of life, does not at all required an ideological stance whatsoever. Like I said, shit for brains. There's noting contrary about my position, it's a fact, I'm not a Vegan. I do not believe in what Vegans believe in.
Also, Vegans are hypocrites. I'm not a hypocrites.
Read a book faggot.
Thread from earlier ended with someone claiming a quote from Gandhi that just cause our ancestors eat meat we shouldn't because we are civilized . Here is my reply..
Fine you want to open the can of worms, that society has evolved that we are beyond killing animals because we are enlightened and it's better for us to eat plants, then it's better for the human species to euthanize the old, retards, terminal, low iq, (insert what ever), to advance the greater good of the gene pool. Welcome to fascism, Nazism.
I grew hunting, fishing, raising farm animals and crops. NOT factory farming. Pure food, grown, raised, and cooked, first hand. Eat as your ancestor's, thousands of years of ones evolutionary tweaking created a biological system designed to process the food of your ancestors, and not eat store processed shit (vegan corn syrup) and you'll live good.
Just because you have a feel good social meme (don't hurt animals they're people too) in the last 50 years, does not negate thousands of years biological evolution.
Next you'll try to tell me sexual preference equals physical gender..
Even if these statistics are true , they aren't really applicable to all omnivore diets.
There is absolutely no real evidence that proves that saturated fat is connected to heart disease. People who eat meat that isn't factory farmed or eat meat laced with sodium nitrate or any other preservative derivative or anti-biotic aren't eating the same meat as people who eat game meat or eat grass fed meat.
Also if saturated fat is the biggest factor for heart disease, then a country like France which has one of the highest consumption of saturated fat in the developed world should have one of the highest rates of heart disease in the world but they have a low rate of heart disease to other countries who have lower consumption of saturated fat and have higher rates of heart disease.
Heart Disease is a result of sedentary lifestyle and increased weight across the population and these are 2 factors that have been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt impacts the risk of heart disease. And these are 2 things America isn't doing very well in as people are fat and obese as fuck and many people live sedentary lifestyles.
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I'm going to eat a steak just for you
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I kill them often*
If it were*
I'm not a hypocrite*
bah
I love meat as much as the next carnivore, but that just looks like a heart attack in a box.
No, you're wrong, read a dictionary. A vegan is someone who doesn't eat or use animal products. You may not subscribe to Veganism, but you are by definition a vegan.
btw. I'm not a vegan, I just find it humorous that you reject your own self evident identity so strongly so you can cling to some semblance of your manhood. I don't eat or use animal product, but I'm no vegan, no sir!
Vegetarian foods are cheaper than their meat counter. Economically it takes much more resources to farm up a burger than it does to grow something from the ground. It's not only healthier but cheaper.
Veggie burgers are also tasty as shit. Try as toasted veggie patty at subway. I can't guarantee Jared won't rape your daughter, but I can guarantee it's still pretty tasty.
Nice pic. A/s/l?
Kek, since bb forum is Sup Forums.2 we can check that
That was meat/carbon vs shackes :^)
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Trips says vegan girls will always be hotter than omni uggos.
Wrong, producing vegies supplements costs about half a football field per person. But feel free to ignore zinc and iron and write a post in a year, if you can.
But being vegan can hardly be called living, can it? So there you have it.
>logically inconsistent
No... it's really not. It's programmed into our brains to not eat dogs and cats because our ancestors used them as tools to hunt and defend grain, respectively. Pigs and chickens are docile, easy to care for, etc. And our protection gives them a better life than in the wild, where they would probably meet a grisly end from an infection or predator. Also, just to make it clear, I eat meat but I don't support factory farming, which is why I say pigs and chickens have a better life. Local farms give them that.
>it is both ethically and morally wrong to do so
Ok, I've seen a lot of you faggots everywhere. You somehow can't accept that other people have different opinions. You eat plants. I eat meat. I really don't give a shit. But it pisses me off when people say "ethically wrong" or "morally wrong" in an objective sense. That is simply an incorrect fact.
And as for the evidence that meat eaters are more susceptible to heart disease, you're gonna die anyway, and heart disease usually affects older people. And I'd rather die in a few minutes from a heart attack than months in a hospital bed while my brain is slowly decaying from age.
>tfw someone doesn't understand cattle farming