Does he deserve life in prison?

does he deserve life in prison?

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When you live in a society you agree to live by the rules of that society or you fuck off. He broke the rules of his society. Selling Heroin to teenagers out of greed seems like a good reason to put him behind bars but regardless of personal opinion, the law is the law. He knew the consequences.

no probably not, if some1 wants heroin they will get one way or another

Yeah but if someone wants to purchase an illegal fire arm they can probably get it one way or another. They are illegal, you sell them and someone kills a bunch of people, you are part of the problem and go to jail for possession and sale of an illegal firearm. Killing someone is against the law, if you want to do it you can but it has consequences.

Nope I don't know anything about this but if the only thing he did was sell heroine and as long if he didn't introduce heroine to anyone and simply sold it to junkies then nah. Jury should find him innocent or his sentence should be reduced

Fuck no. All drugs should be legal for adults to buy, sell or consume.

With that said, it's conceivable he deserves life in prison if he really did order hits on people. But the whole murder for hire thing looked like it was tacked on, imo.

He ran a drug empire on the dark net that sold a billion dollars of illegal drugs to anyone without a second thought. If you think that is ok then you are seriously fucked. Society would crumble if that kind of shit was allowed.

if heroine were legalized tomorrow, very few people would just try heroine for fun

you know as well as i do he sold to people who were already hooked

Wow. Nancy Reagan, is that you?

>If you think that is ok then you are seriously fucked.
Do you realize how much money we waste imprisoning people for victimless crimes like selling marijuana every year in America? Even with hard drugs like heroin, it's the user's prerogative to "just say no" as the saying goes.

Tobacco, alcohol and fast food kill way more people yearly than drugs, but the government won't touch those because A) everyone smokes, drinks and eats poorly, and B) those industries have huge lobbies in Washington DC. People living or dying has nothing to do with something being legal or illegal. What is popular and what contributes to the coffers of fatcats on Capitol Hill is all that matters.

I just read an article where two heroin junkies sold their 6 year and infant kids for 600 to a sex trafficker. They were busted but that is what happens when you are a drug user. People drive like idiots and it always leads to more crime. I'm all for letting druggies like you turds kill yourselves but it's impossible to do without society falling down in the process.

If hiring a hitman were legalized you know very few people would hire a hitman just for fun. The ones that would hire a hitman were already going to do it anyway. Lets just make it legal. Broken logic of a user.

fuck no he doesnt, you cant throw the owner of a street in jail, just becuase people do illegal things on it. people will commit crimes, go after them instead

No but you can throw the owner of a street in jail if he willingly turns his head and allows people to commit crimes on his street. You can also arrest him for committing crimes on his street. He was guilty of both.

>I just read an article where two heroin junkies sold their 6 year and infant kids for 600 to a sex trafficker
Then charge them with human trafficking. Their decision to use drugs is irrelevant.

>They were busted but that is what happens when you are a drug user.
Completely incorrect. The overwhelming majority of recreational drug users work to support their habit. People like the case you're citing are extreme outliers. As of 2007, of the 17.4 million current illicit drug users age 18 and over, 13.1 million (75.3 percent) were employed.

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>People drive like idiots and it always leads to more crime
It's also illegal to drink and drive. That's not an argument for outlawing alcohol altogether.

>I'm all for letting druggies like you turds kill yourselves but it's impossible to do without society falling down in the process.
>I watched Reefer Madness and now I think I'm smart: the post
I've never used drugs and never will. For that matter, I've never gambled, drank, smoked or visited prostitutes. But none of these things should be illegal in a free society.

who and what

you're a terrible person mate.

If you want to live in anarchy then leave civilization where civilized men live by rules and regulations. Go to Africa and have a blast. If you want to live in a society of responsible people then put up with the reasonable laws and stop bitching. The guy is a criminal. He got what he deserved and 99% of society stands behind that.

Silk road is just like Amazon only for drugs. People are going to die from drugs, the labs would just be closer to home and your product won't be as genuine because it could be mixed with different shit. Anyone can claim to be the best. Big pharma and its ties to the crisis in addictive pain killers.

this slow clap will turn into a standing ovation

So would it be ok for me to sell kids on a site like amazon since people are going to buy them and abuse them anyway? Fuck laws and morality. We will just live like beasts? You guys need help.

Yeah from the two dudes in this thread that have mental issues and drug habits.

>If you want to live in anarchy then leave civilization where civilized men live by rules and regulations.
I want to live in a free society and believe that abolishing the so called "War on Drugs" is a huge step in that direction. This is not antithetical to living in a civilized world; if anything, I wish to live in a more civilized world, one in which the state is no longer tyrannically ruling over its citizens. Of course, this is ignoring the fact that the decision to make drugs illegal unwittingly empowers drug cartels. Legalizing, regulating and taxing every drug would put cartels out of business within a year. No one would buy drugs from a street dealer, smuggled in by a mule, if they could simply buy pharmaceutical grade drugs off the shelf at Walmart.

>If you want to live in a society of responsible people then put up with the reasonable laws and stop bitching.
Great strawman. I already live in a society where most people have no interest whatsoever in hard drugs and the ones that do have no interest in whether their habit is legal. This society would be better, not worse, if we stopped spending $60k a year to imprison a single prisoner for possession or distribution of these drugs.

>The guy is a criminal. He got what he deserved and 99% of society stands behind that.
Most of society doesn't feel as strongly about this issue as you, actually. In fact, a lot of people are smart enough to realize how much damage the war on drugs does to the most at risk Americans. The war on drugs is simply a war on impoverished, rural whites and inner city minorities. It's a construct used by the power elite to suppress the poor and uneducated. It's unconstitutional and indefensible. The only people who defend it are drones brainwashed by propaganda from 30 years ago about how drugs ruin lives. Drugs don't ruin lives; addicts ruin their own lives. And they should be free to do so, just as a smoker should be free to give himself or herself cancer.

>Basing your opinion on real world statistics rather than Reagan era anti drug propaganda makes you a terrible person


Meant to tag in that reply

>halo effect

I see there is no point in arguing with you user. I disagree with you but you are entitled to your opinion. I hope you never get what you want because it will end in your destruction and the destruction of everyone else. You are good at arguing on the internet and I don't have the willpower to counter you. I will say that you are completely void of any morality and think like a machine with no responsibility.

found the 35 year old pot smoking Shel Silverstein fans who listen to phish and are secretly disliked by many of their peers.

user put in the legwork

>thread full of angry addicts defending themselves
can't get much more Sup Forums than this

to add onto what you are saying, I believe that we as humans should be free to put whatever we want into our bodies. they're OURS. that being said, those who are stupid enough to shoot up heroin are to be weeded out from society via addiction and death. it's harsh, it's life. it's literally what natural selection is meant to be

to reply to the actual topic of the thread, I do believe this man is a criminal that deserves to be behind bars, but I think a double life sentence is undoubtedly out of place here. I would've given him 20 years + restrictions to the internet when he got out

Daily reminder than Ronald Reagan was a cuckold.

So glad I decided not to have kids.

me too. that you did, not me.

It was the responsible thing to do for their sake and mine. The future is yours and hopefully your kids.

I'm 74 years old, user.

Wow pretty old. Do you have kids?

yes. I have great grand children. I lied about my age and fought in Korea. lived through it. then Nam. 3 tours. had kids when I got back and was being spit on for what I thought was right. Legalize pot, whatever. but cut for that hophead up there to say that junkie parents selling their 6 year old child for $600 had nothing to do with their drug addiction makes me sick. however I'm going to bed. take care kid. enjoy your life. I wish you the best. I really do.

It wasn't just a 6 year old. They sold their infant daughter and the 6 year old to sex traffickers. I was the one who said it. I mentioned it because I see a lot of irresponsible behavior from junkies and the more users get hooked the worse it gets. Maybe you are correct though. Maybe there is nothing that we as a society can do. It just feels wrong, like a parent telling his kids its ok by making it legal. I do understand what you are saying though.

My dad did two tours in Nam and he fought in desert storm as well. My dad always blamed the hippy's for all of the hate he received when he came home. Broke both of his knees to. Honestly I decided not to have kids for a lot of reasons. It isn't just the drugs. It's the mentality. I do ok and will leave this earth free of my genetics. This place can burn for all I care.

this guy's in jail forever and dick cheney's walking around a free millionaire. fuck the usa.

>well thought out reply
>sources
>reasonable and understandable point of view
>dubs to top it all off

great post user

>you think like a machine because you want people to be free

how is it immoral to want people to be able to dictate their own bodies, which (obviously) doesn't harm others?
You sound like the type that is also against gay marriage etc

Your right, I was wrong to post that. Most of the comments in this thread about this dude being rightfully put In jail were from me. You guys should be free to do what you want. Life is short. Have fun.

Your logic is a slippery slope to "People are going to break laws, so why have laws?"

Also user, I'd like to explain myself a little. I was raised by Catholic parents. Most people in society today would call them moronic fools who believe in fairy tails. They tought me many things. Drug dealers were bad people. Wait till marriage until you have sex. Respect others even if you disagree. The whole bit. I was an alter boy in church. I never got molested like the movies and the news constantly report and I am glad for that. Throughout my life I have always felt like a terrorist because the whole world has always been in disagreement with me. I was surrounded by sluts and drug users most of my life. I grew up strong and got educated. I have a great career and I make about 90K a year.

I have been living in isolation for a while now. I have no friends, no love, I am the one who has become a machine and I rarly feel anything. I am the man that everyone hates. I was raised in rural America. I never agreed with the porn industry or the constant string of gang violence when I moved to the city. Even on the internet nobody feels me.

Despite it all, I don't care. I actually hate humanity and I will be glad when I am dead. You too will be glad to know that I will not have kids or bother anyone. I refuse to vote even. I don't want to be a part of this society at all. So now maybe you can understand why I am fucked and why everyone disagrees with me. Know at least that I won't stand in your way and I wasn't the one who put this drug dealer in jail.

its not all black and white you know, MOST of the times there is more to it than a single sentence.

Read the post above yours. I am the one that is in disagreement. You are probably correct that I'm retarded. Either way I no longer care to argue.

you are the reason what makes the world go downhill. and i mean literally you. its you faggot, it really is you.

Nobody forced them to use drugs. Everyone has to make his choices and accept the consequences.

has nothing to do with anarchy, quite the opposite to be honest. how can you say 99% of society if its not even 99% on here? who do you think society is? wake up faggot and look around you.

found the faggot who likes to suck dick in a hotel lobby.

Natural selection

It's ok it's not my problem and I probably shouldn't have said anything. For some reason I have seen society as something that should work together to help each but I have found that humanity would rather not live in harmony. That is perfectly fine. I guess I just think differently than everyone else.

typical american stereotype idiot. i feel so bad for all of you, i really enjoy being in the US from time to time. but goddamn there are a lot of these type of people over there. i really feel pity for the 20% that actually get how the world works outside of the US.

I understand what you mean, but you can not help someone who does not want it.

Yeah you got a point, it's probably going to be ok. If it gets worse it's not my problem anyway. No point arguing about it.

i did that beforehand, was the reason i posted.

Not life no. But he deserves a long sentence. He was a drug dealer. If he were a nigger there would be no thread about it on here ( just a nigg doing nigg things).
Just because he was smart enough to use technology, he was still a drug dealer

So what do you want from me? To say that I am stupid? Confused, a faggot? It doesn't matter user. None of it does in the end.

Yep, I am your typical American idiot. You shouldn't feel sorry for other smart Americans. I don't bother anyone. I live peacefully. This is probably the first time I have said anything in disagreement in a long time. As you can see it didn't go to well. If you feel so strongly that this man should be free you will do better attacking the system that put him jail. It really has nothing to do with me.

Justin Trudeau? Hell yes.

Did the owner of ebay get fucked when it was used to sell stolen goods?

Does the owner of craiglist go to prison when it's used to solicit sex?

No.

Vendors are the criminals, he just created a place where people could go and buy/sell without the high risk of being knifed/robbed in the street.

The only reason he got fucked is because it was profitable and the FBI didnt do it first.

Which is why they used that as precedent for attacking alphabay etc.

did you know the BTC "dissapeared"?
did you know the FBI knowingly kept trading on alpha/dream for more than a month?

it's all about money.
if DPR had moved to another country, he'd still be hosting today, and as long as he gave a cut, they could do nothing.

The whole hitman thing was pure bullshit

He didnt deal drugs.

he only set up a safe place to do so.