Calling all capitalists of Sup Forums what the fucks wrong with you...

Calling all capitalists of Sup Forums what the fucks wrong with you ? Please explain your reasoning for advocating this foul ideology

Agree--Capitalism is the worst system....except for all the rest.

Capitalism isnt a system fucktard its what human beings do naturally when free. When people have tried to deliberately engineer a society off some German sociologists theory of history just ends up in tyranny.

How about you prove whatever you're selling works better?

So your that retarded huh ?

Capitalism = Death Cult

Poverty is the natural state of mankind. Capitalism has reduced poverty by such a large degree that even mentally handicapped socialists can afford to give a shit about the poor.

Im a libertarian socialist. In b4 hurr durr thats an oxymoron the first use of libertarian was by anarchist Joseph Pierre Prodhoun

So let me get this straight, you want the people that work their asses off growing food to do it for free when the equipment they use can run up to millions quickly if they tend to grow a lot of food. Or how about homes, the people that built and paid for the homes you expect them to open them up for free to mental illness homeless people? None of these will work. Its not possible. I know i dont wanna work for free, why would you?

worked out pretty good for me.

Just accept you are not an exceptional individual.
And you would not exceed in any system no matter how favorable.

I dont want my labor to be exploited. I actually want to keep a hundred percent of it which is much different than the system now.

way to pick an ideology that is impossible to realize, Pierre Prodhoun be fucked.

Overpopulation is a major cause for lots of that. When they stop having 5-6 kids in africa the starvation numbers will drop immensely. They have had enough donated towards them to feed them for 20 years but due to socialism and dictatorships almost none of it made it to the people in need. The real enemy is human nature, not capitalism

That's a crock of shit user and you know it certain people are born with more than others just by their bloodline if we played a game of Monopoly and I started out with all the pieces and you had none who do you think is going to win the game?

Not saying our capitalist system is perfect, but are you really going to suggest that under communism/socialism that all of those people will get clean water and nobody will go hungry? Have you even researched your own ideology?

good luck trying to dictate the common good, marxifaggots. i'm sure you're more capable than every generation of self-proclaimed intellectuals that failed. read jmadison then kys

how do you feed the people and still make money. They have no money, so someone else has to buy it, who buys it then? Government? Then how does said government get money? Sell stuff they own? nope, taxes. Taxes will rise if we go to a different form of government so we will keep even less because of taking care of the poor, ill, and starving (its a good thing to take care of people, but forcing everyone to is wrong on all levels)

>I dont want my labor to be exploited.
it isn't. You are not worth much.

numale crybabies lmao

meh, I grew up in a trailer park in Oklahoma.

Now I am in the 1%.

If this was Django, you are one of the 9,999.

You called?

life isnt fair and never will be, and life isnt a game
In America you have a great chance to get out of poverty or rise up. There is no physical barrier stopping you. If youre willing to take the risk you can start your own dildo shop if you really fucking wanted to. Too many dont risk anything at all and wonder why they never go up. We have generations of dumb asses on food programs and free housing that dont bother to try cause where they live is good enough.

i like private property and voluntary association

You only say that because you're not starving. It's easy to prioritize 'your right to property' over someone else's survival when you're not facing down poverty-induced death. People are more important than things, done. Capitalism encourages human waste.

GIMME FREE SHIT NOW
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All I'm saying is that extraordinary rich individuals should pay a lot more than their average rate of 0% while the majority of Americans foot the bill for their reckless financial trickery.

>I dont want my labor to be exploited.
>not having a good enough work ethic to realize your potential and do what you want
>blaming your shitty attitude and correlating shitty wage on 'exploitation'

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OK, so explain to me why libertarian socialism hasn't been recognized and adopted as a superior system compared to capitalism.

>So your that retarded huh ?
>your

the irony hurts

Capitalism works great, in it's infancy.

But, it always leads to oligarchy, once the winners in each field have been picked and consolidated. Which is where we are right now.

Because it's all we know. What the fuck is wrong with you to think it can all be changed overnight? The way you attack people who follow different ways of thinking than you makes your cause worthless. You want people to get on board with you? Then explain yourself and your ideology sensibly, reasonably and respectfully.

I’m sure you don’t work just to have money. You work to have money to do things and have security. Would you not work directly for to have things and to have security

Also socialism doesn’t exclude markets; you just crush the really big players down so they have to complete fairly instead of letting them dominate and crush everyone including themselves.

Fuck off Ivan. Shouldn't your web brigades be trying to influence an election right now?

Ia actually work my ass off and get nothing for it. Just go "anywhere" nothings holding you back lol you sound like a child who just had the you can be anything you want to be speech we all know that the world doesn't work like that

many of them started with a leg up yes, but a big problem is foreign profits were gotten rid of when we removed tariffs. We also do not tax american companies that make billions overseas. We need to implement tax reforms, not completely different governments. Its thorn in the toe, dont chop off the toe to fix the issue

>I actually want to keep a hundred percent

great, start a business.

Kind of why green energy hasn't taken off there's people to ensure its existence

What Faggot ?

This guy gets it

>I actually work my ass off and get nothing for it.
>Not realizing you can easily find a better job if you just try.
>This is the shitty attitude i was talking about

Fuck, everyone loves to make this shit a two sided issue. We need aspects from both Capitalism and Socialism to be a successful society. How much of each should really be what the debate is over.

Paying taxes for social programs ensures that you get to live in a cushy place like the US, and not some hell-hole in the Middle East. Poverty increases crime rates. Is it fair that I have to give some of my paycheck every week to some crack head who has never held down a job? No, that's not fair, but it's my fucking duty as a citizen of a first world country.

If you have pure Socialism, you have a society that never progresses. If you have pure Capitalism, you have a society that sucks dick for everyone except the extremely wealthy. Stop with this "Capitalism is Murder" and "lul, you just want free handouts" shit and use your goddamn brains to think a bit more critically about a problem that always seems to get reduced to two black and white solutions.

You're calling someone retarded while making a 1st grade grammar mistake

If i had a dollar for every time you retards suggest opening up your own business. Some people live paycheck to paycheck asshole they have no means

>Ia actually work my ass off and get nothing for it.

because you're unskilled and worthless, why should you make more?

>>u wot m8

>retarded antifa commie gets btfo on fucking b
Lmao. Even the kids know youre a stupid faggot.

Only losers dislike capitalism. The winners love it. Guess what that makes you, you stupid fag?

>If i had a dollar for every time you retards suggest opening up your own business. Some people live paycheck to paycheck asshole they have no life skills or career goals

ftfy

Green energy hasn't taken off because it's not efficient enough to compete with the infrastructure already in place. Consider the time and costs that would be involved in replacing gas stations with electric charging stations. Now consider the difficulty in trying to convince everyone in a given country to buy an electric car.

Ya but thats not real capitalism.

Implying i have anything to risk

>capitalism doesn't work
>implying that communism does
>there has never been a single successful communist country
>there have been, and continue to be, a great deal of very successful capitalist countries

Not the guy youre replying to but youre either lazy or not willing to take a risk, both of wich are your own choices and as such you will remain poor, by your own choices.
> Ia actually work my ass off and get nothing for it.
This is 100% your own choice. Everyone here knows you're not working 100h+ weeks. You have enough time to find a better job, or learn a skill. You are just lazy; face it. Instead of learning something or finding a better job youre complaining on a mongolian basket weaving forum.

> Just go "anywhere" nothings holding you back lol you sound like a child who just had the you can be anything you want to be speech we all know that the world doesn't work like that
I've never had this speech and I am living fairly succesfully making 3x what my peers make at my age. My parents are divorced, I'm an immigrant and my mother who I lived with was left with completely nothing.

Meanwhile my peers at school chose to do dumb shit and be lazy, they have had kids at an early age, they spent their money on bullshit, made bad financial choices(and always knew it), etc..

It always comes down to your own fucking choices.

You can certainly not always be what you want but you can at least try and even get very close to it,
or,
you can be lazy, sour, and live like you;
a failure, complaining about everyone else, on an imageboard.

I know right if your family was poor and as soon as you graduated you had to work to support them and you had no educational prospects you're the one to blame right? Not the system that created you are?

You're probably just some edgy, anti-theist, 15 year old communist and has no actual understanding of politics.

Because I like food and human rights

Once again you are right wing perspective is complete b******* just like all the rest of them certain people are put in a position where they can not Thrive they only survive and the fact that you're ignorant to that you're either really stupid or really callus probably both

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Capitalism would work if all donations nationally and internationally would be illegal.

I'm not saying everyone gets dealt the same hand or that some don't get the shit end of the stick, but sittng here blaming "the system" for all your fucking problems is NOT going to solve anything. Working hard and living within your means however, may actually get you somewhere. Just because you grew up poor or whatever doesn't mean shit by the time you're in your 20s as long as you actually try to get ahead. You are in control of your own destiny, not some faggot in an office 1000 miles away.

Yes, there you go, scream, shout, cry about it on an imageboard. Did you get a better job doing this? No. Did you financial situation improve? No. Could you have applied for at least 5 jobs, online, in the meantime? Yes.

So, what did _you choose_ to do?

Exactly...

Working well for me, sucker.

This isnt the fault of capitalism. This is the fault of niggers not getting the message from God that they were a mistake that needs to be erased.

we're all waiting to help you understand
: - ) ALL

yeah cause the elephant in the room is the world's overpopulation we totally need those 18 million alive and reproducing.

>the answer to life is death. get the fuck over yourself and the fact your life is totally insignificant.

Haha. So some nigger goes to college purely because he's black and then a very educated white poor person will not go. Its not rigged though ? Ok money means everything in today's society it's a tool to be used if a rich person has a retarded child they can just put in a donation for let's say 5 grand they get in a very intelligent young person can purely because of their family's financial status that's f***** up and I'm doing talk-to-text right now and I'm really not that concerned about my grammar I'm sure all of you have noticed but you guys who say but you are in life purely by tour own choices. Its bullshit

jackpot
trips don't lie

>third world countries filled with low IQ subhumans
Survival of the fittest, commie. Free helicopter ride for you.

bait. lol do you have any idea how many people died under Stalin's communist regime? go suck a log out of Andy Sixx's asshole.

But obviously it's just physically impossible for some to thrive. You're born marked, then when you grow up people wont accept your resumes lol

Life isn't fair, deal with it, life is a temporary condition, in a very short time it will be over and a hundred years after that no on will remember you or give a fuck that you ever lived, so why get all beat up about it

Ya shitty bourgeois

Sorry, I couldnt make anything out of your ramblings. I didnt consider I was talking to an actual fucking retard.

Capitalism works for me.
But then again I'm not a societal parasite that wants other people to gib money becaus muh dic.

As I said I'm actually at work right now busting my ass so the most convenient way to post at the moment is talk to text which is not very efficient or accurate as you can tell

Wow you "work your ass off" and get literally nothing for it? You're either exaggerating or exceedingly stupid.

>"I hate capitalism!" he says while posting from his smartphone

Honestly this is what it boils down to. People blaming everyone and everything but themselves for their current situation.

And these people say you're talking like a child when you tell them they can actually do something with themselves if they just try. It's pathetic.

No I actually slave away 40 to 50 hours a week and receive barely anything for it

Oh fuck off, you ARE the system. We all are. Bitching about your perceived inequality solves nothing. It just happens to give you an exploitable excuse to do nothing and make people pity you.

Okay, lets roll with this. What do you do for a living?

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sucks to suck

How fucking dumb and poorly educated in history do you have to be to think capitalism hasn't been one of the mot beneficial things humans have ever come up with

SO FIND A BETTER JOB HOLY SHIT THIS IS WHAT IVE BEEN SAYING

>werks for me!
not everyone is able to attain a job capable of living on their own, paying for their foods and bills.
there should be government assistance to pull people out of poverty, at the very least.
minimum wage is fucking worthless

I'm a prep cook at a country club asked for raises every year I work there but the piece of scum capitalist refuses to give away with any of my Surplus value

Creating a chart with random statistics doesn't help your point.

> be me
> be leftist
> dont know what I want to be when I grow up
> go to college, dont have a good reason but whatever why not rite xd
> rake up 100K in debt, end up with a piece of paper and no real life experience
> found 0 jobs as i have 0 experience in having any kind of job
> applied for one job, offered below minimum wage
> instantly accept it
> my first paycheck
> move out of my parents place, i hate my mom xD better rent a place
> buy a new phone, make sure I dont actually buy it but have a contract for 80 a month so i can get the best phone i love apple haha
> ...man, affording rent is hard, how did this ever happen
> i know what i'll do to fix this..
> next day at work
> speech-to-text into phone; complain on a mongolian imageboard how badly the system fucked you over
the leftist brain everyone

And there you have it. a prep cook. no wonder you're such a sniveling cunt, kitchen fucks are the worst.

>Having no skills
>Bitching about your wage

You get paid little because a dirty beaner in a straw hat could replace you tomorrow with little to no change in the operation. Your situation is your fault.

Sure it would be unfair if the whole company only had these two guys employed. The ceo and the work dude. But you see, there are propably hundred of others working too. They gotta get their shares. Also profits go to the investors who allow the business happen in the first place. I live in a socialist country and this is so simple. Capitalism is the only currently working system because it hasn't failed yet.

Try to understand the concept of risk

The person who created your country club, invested money, took on a risk, possibly debt.

You are not taking on any risk by being being employed. You're paying your employed to take on risk now, or its their reward for having taken risk in the past and succesfully managed it.

You can cry "exploitation!!" as much as you like. If you want to be paid the full amount, why dont you start your own place, chef?

This goes the both way. Never work too hard for your salary. Only hard enough to beat your competetors but NEVER too much. Save it for the salary negotiations.

Like we say here: Wage runs, I don't

>Can't produce a system that doesn't descend into a cult of personality within 10 years or less

Communists don't even deserve to be listened to, the idea had it's chance and it failed. Inequity is part of the human condition and anyone who doesn't accept it is an a poisonous and immature agitator who deserves death, a snake oil salesman that just also happens to want to molest your children.

no one was giving money away so socialists left

Then find a better place that pays you more.
I fucking tarred roofs, stocked grocery stores, pushed carts, mopped floors, and a buttload of shitty jobs as I worked for a better education and career.
Also, join the Services. You get food, shelter, a bit of money, and some training that will help you in all sorts of ways.
I have no issues with welfare, providing the recipient has to either get an education or work to receive it.

>Let's convert an entire nation into communism.
>Benefits.
>Nigglets no hungry anymore.
>Drank-able water everywhere, even in your toilet.
>No one is ever going to die from a disease again.
>yay!

I like my steak medium rare to blue.

Someone has never been to a communist country.

opinions are subjective I may think that your profession is b******* but I don't come on Sup Forums and whine like a little b****

I'm sorry full-blown capitalist have the money to pay their workers so we don't have to go on government welfare

Yeah taking a huge risk with other people's money

I used to do that, then I got a skill through schooling and now I make a decent living. I had to do 80 hours a week between work and school but I did it. Very satisfying.

> Yeah taking a huge risk with other people's money
Well it's so easy chef, why don't you do it yourself?

Oh wait, youre a cuck afraid of risk. Incapable of thinking more than 3 days ahead, or willing to actually work hard for a long period of time for a high reward.

Because I'm not a thief in a suit and I refuse to exploit people for a profit you right-wing fuck