Hey niggas, can we get a kratom thread going? just dropped 7g of red borneo, waiting for the good times

hey niggas, can we get a kratom thread going? just dropped 7g of red borneo, waiting for the good times.

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Just ordered 750g. What up my brother?

nothing much. what blends did you pick up? i picked up 300g the other day, red borneo, white borneo and maeng da. shits tight.

Damn, 7gs? Do you have a high tolerance or
weak Kratom? If I took that much I would get sick for sure

i don't really know anyone who does it, but i think my tolerance is pretty high, did 4 grams before work today and didn't really feel much. just sort of chill, in a better mood than normal. so i upped it a bit tonight, we'll see. if i get sick, i get sick. and ill learn to use less in the future. s'all good.

yeah no worries

I used to take 3-5g every time I dosed, but then I took a t break for a few weeks. Now I can take a gram or less and get the same effects as I did from 3 grams.

anyone mix with weed? results of doing a toss and wash and then smoking weed?

yeah from what i read up on it, it's generally pretty safe as long as you stay under 10g. i have a scale (am weed/coke dealer) so i'm pretty accurate with this shit lol.

I love wasabi sauce

Shits nasty bro I don’t know how you guys deal with the taste

at least you aren't being a fag like the last few threads claiming it was machta. just because it's a green powder means it's automatically green tea.

is that what you children are calling it now? dropping kratom like you're dropping acid. fuck off, proper term is im too much of a bitch for real mans drug like smack so im mixing nasty fucking bitter green dirt with water and choking it down to barely get the buzz a codeine or two goves you

its perfectly safe but having a high tolerance sucks. you spend several times more than you have to per dose.

have you not overdosed yet? It feels great until you start puking constantly haha

grapefruit juice. also the taste isn't bad when you make it as a tea with some lemon juice. kind of just tastes like a super earthy green tea (depending on what blend you make it with, obviously.)

No him but I have a kilo on the way. Only $70 and you can pic l pick 4 different strains if you want. I think you may be able to split it 8 ways possibly, I don't remember.

not yet and i don't intend on it. as i said, im pretty accurate with my dosages. im sticking between 3-6 (8-10 max). ive heard of the wobbles and doesn't sound good. i was up on a bender (coke/molly/speed) for like 5 days straight, and on the last day (after i slept) i uncontrollably puked for around 4 hours (mostly blood) and it fucking sucked. will avoid at all cost.

Been wanting to try kratom, was planning to get some next week... What site do you guys use to get it? How long does it usually take? I am in the U.S. and a few months ago they was talk about making laws against kratom, which is what made me want to try it,

gel caps. no taste but they cost more.

Also sorry for horribly formed sentence, im on xanax rigt now ... lol

Heard people say the caps are no good is that bs?

Someone educate a newfag to this shit. Wtf is it

yeah there's a bit of a learning curve to figure out a good dose

it's like feeling good two different ways! of course it'll be good.

checked. im trying to chill it on the harder stuff, and i don't really know a better word for consuming a product that alters your mind for multiple hours. i say drop, because it just fits. just because it isn't harder shit doesn't negate the fact that the word works better than any other for the context.

although, as someone who lost about a year to LSD (took it once a week, easily) and have wasted crazy money on coke, speed, molly, i feel you. literally just picked up kratom to slow that shit down and not die, like my buddy did earlier this year.

some of us have to be adults. i'm a doctor bitch

Hold on let me go do crack so internet virgin doesnt think Im a pussy.

I'd say kys but the drugs are doing it for u

I got 500 of this purple 8in1 blend that im in love with and then a blend of some white veined kratom

im in canada so i used a canadian site (it was a bit more expensive, but i got it next day no worries)

in the us, there's a ton of sites that'll get it to you nice and cheap, forget the one i was looking at but it even had tablets for sale (which is fucked, because that is technically against the law) - it's not technically legal to sell for human consumption.

sure I'm a virgin but that doesn't mean i don't know real streat drugs. i have watched over 2300 hours of cops and LivePD, i think I know a thing or two about "smack" (street for crack)

yeah i want to pick up some purple, but i didn't this time (definitely next time) i've heard that shit is dope.

kratom is a plant from south asia that works as a painkiller/mood lifter. people use it to help with the withdrawal from opiates (heroin, etc) it tastes like shit but it makes you feel pretty dope. and it's legal mostly everywhere. can buy online.

wow next day shipping nice... i guess i will just make an attempt at trying happy hippo, that seems like a legit site.

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update, i just found the capsule site lol

depends where you get them. The gel caps you get at a headshop are very hit and miss, sometimes they'll be weak and sometimes they'll be just as potent as anything. If you get them online from a trusted vendor/brand you should be good. I get mine from a smoke shop so I can't recommend any sources, they literally sell it in ziplock bags like its coke or some shit.

Kratom gel caps typically have 0.6g of powder each. The cost per pill is usually the same as 1.0g of pure powder, so if money is an issue just stick with powder.

Lemon juice and sugar help with taste. You can also just dilute the tea more.

It is dude, perfect energy and body load. Although i sweat like a mother fucker on it, like standing outside for 3 minutes, and boom covered in fucking sweat

this is the site i was talking about (hunted it down in my history) it looks pretty good (and it's legit as fuck)

gaiaethnobotanical.com/

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I honestly get nothing but moderate pain relief from it, I don't see the recreational value.

also it's really easy to make your own capsules. just go to a supplement shop and buy empty ones, fillem up with powder and be careful with the doses.

so if you were to cap them you should definitel buy caps and a capping machine separately because you will get a better deal on the kratom and good kratom doesn't come in capsules. The real issue with capsules is that they will be weaker due to the extra digestion you have to do. It's worth it for people who can't handle toss and wash but I don't think it's bad at all anymore. Just get something flavorful that isn't carbonated and swish around in your mouth. easy

wat does dis shit make you feel op?

never heard of it here in Argentina

Can vouch try the purple 8in1

jesus dude. blood? wtf

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Thanks for the advice.. will keep in mind. Ill probably get 250g, in case i dont like it, 25 dollars isnt that much of a blow, and if i do like it, it will still be a hefty amount.

yeah. and it hurt like a bitch. it felt like all my stomach acid was being forcibly ejected from my body and it was ripping up my insides (blood) thought i was going to die. slept it off, felt fine so whatever, not going to do that again. dark times, manigga, dark times.

Reminder: forget the junkie slang when talking about Kratom. We want it staying legal to help combat the opiate crisis.

It's not like it's truly comparable to opis, it just hits some similar notes that make it easier to transition.

Only buy from reputable vendors, Gaia isn't my favorite, but they're okay. Liherbal is also acceptable.

I use a different couple vendors, but they're small scale. Anyone tried any fermented kratom besides some of the yellows?

update just ordered it lol fuck it

Well Sup Forums, it's that time. Finances and real life have unexpectedly dictated that it's time to quit. I've been going through 250g per 3 weeks for a while now. comes out to only about $1.50 per day, but I'm not even really getting high anymore anyways.

Couldn't have come at a more awkward pain in the ass time in my life, but I've had infinite opportunities to head things off before this. I have roughly 2 ounces left to ween myself off. Hopefully I can get down to 3 teaspoons a day by the time it runs out. I can smoke some weed I have left at least when that day comes.

It'll be nice to have my full libido back and not be pseudo-constipated all the time on the flipside.

anyone here use it as an anti-depressant? was diagnosed with clinical depression (major depression and insomnia, technically) and given a prescription for mood stabilizers. cant even remember what they were called because i threw out the prescription, fuck that, i've known way too many people who's lives got fucked by depending on those pills. anyone make light doses of tea with it and drink 2-3 a day? is it fucked that i do this? lol

It's a pseudo-opiate, so euphoria, cozy feelings, general happiness, sleepiness.


I disagree. When used in combination with other drugs (alcohol, mostly) Keaton can be fatal. It needs to be treated with respect like any other drug.

That being said, it's much closer to the harmless end of the scale than, say, heroin or fentanyl.

t. Druggie

damn, glad to hear you're feeling better. makes me feel better about my kratom and weed usage haha

just shot up 40g OP, feeling niiiiice

The lowered libido and constipation is real, but I'd have sex even less without it because of a fucked spine. Although it helps the pain a fair bit without making me feel fuzzy headed or high.

Good luck and try some magnesium oxide to ease the transition to none.

yeah, i just tell normies that it's a special tea that has unique properties to give you more energy. fair point, though.

were you addicted to something stronger before you started on Kratom, user? (as for the cost you mentioned, it is easily one of the cheapest products, compared to other stuff out there) I started to kick my blow addiction. i was spending WAY too much fucking money.

Why shoot oxy when oral bioavailability is 85-90%?

Idk I'd rather do heroin tbh

That's an absurdly high dose. Your Kratom must be awful. :(

I have sort of looked these questions up on my own, but I like hearing from you folks:

1. What are the effects of kratom like? is it like valarion root extract or kava?

2. Is it dangerous, potentially harmful side effects?

3. Addictive?

4. Anything else you'd liek to add please?

oh also, is it actually legal to purchase in the states? by mail perhaps?

You disagree with what? The case studies of Kratom fatalities have mostly been when it was cut with a tramadol metabolite or fentanyl analogues. It's still not 100% safe, but it's far safer than street heroin or a script of oxy every month.

someone either lied to you or you're about to have the worst time ever.

Kratom will make you feel happier but it's very temporary, it lasts 2-3 hours max. And eventually you build up a tolerance and have to start taking more. After taking it daily for a while you'll get addicted and will get withdrawals when you quit.

Not to sound like your psychiatrist but tons of people have had their lives significantly improved with antidepressants. You only hear about the horror stories because the guys who get better don't talk about it as much.

It's illegal in Alabama, Arkansas, Indiana, Tennessee, Vermont, and Wisconsin. Anywhere else you're golden. You can even buy it at some headshops.

It can be habit forming, but generally the dose and strain will be the determining factor of effects.

Small doses for energy, larger doses for moderate pain relief and a very mild opiate like euphoria. So mild that it's hilarious how many of these kids think it's comparable to hard drugs.

legal to buy in the states, yes, kratom community won a big battle last year protecting its legal status. the peeps who fought for it are basically heroes.

as for the effects, in smaller doses it's like a super tea, that kills minor pain and lifts your mood up (stimulant) in larger doses (and depending on the strain) it acts as a sedative, kind of like heroin (but much more mild) it gives body euphoria and sedates you. it's pretty cool how it can be both. just gotta be careful, a gram over your threshold and you're gonna have a bad time.

Nothing like heroin, lol. Wannabe druggie.

'habit forming' might be an understatement, it's not as addictive as heroin but you do get pretty nasty withdrawals if you take too much for too long. Some people get really hooked on it too and can't quit.

it acts on the chemoreceptors in a similar way, that's why it's such a powerful tool in helping people quit heroin. but fine, i'll say it acts like a mild painkiller. i basically only do uppers and psychedelics. im not a heroin addict. and im not a wanna be druggie. im the opposite, nigga.

Not a regular kratom user, but I used to be. Can't stand the taste anymore. Moved on to prescription painkillers.

Kratom is a leaf that is ground up. Has effects similar to, but not as intense as, opiates. It makes you tired, mellow, and has you feeling amazing.

Vomiting, nausea, and respiratory depression are common. It's not as dangerous as, say, heroin or oxys, just because it's not as strong. But when combined with alcohol or other drug cocktails, yes, it can be dangerous.

More addictive than weed, as you can have a physical dependence and the effects are more seductive, at least in my opinion. Of course, you can get cripplingly addicted to pretty much any behavior. But you can and eventually will build a tolerance to kratom, and if you use enough you will get some kind of withdrawal. (Addiction has more to do with the way your mind and soul work than the behaviors or substances themselves -- not everyone will get addicted to alcohol, and it's the same with kratom, or sex, or the internet. This is a complicated subject that I feel strongly about, given personal experience, but I digress.)

Try it if you want. Just know who you are. Anything can be dangerous if channeled dangerously. It's just something that exists, how you use it makes it good or bad.

I'd like to add that, like alcohol and weed, it can act as a gateway drug. Not because it's especially dangerous like heroin or meth, but because there's a social scene around it that can suck you deeper and deeper. Choose your friends wisely and be careful.

thank you. i have enjoyed taking oxy and hydro due to its euphoric feeling and nod at high doses, are you saying kratom is just a milder form of that feeling? find that hard to believe if its still legal... must be very subtle, kind of like what cbd is to thc, marijuana speaking both legally and effectively

I've taken valerian and kratom.

I've taken valerian in sleepy time tea. It works ok for relaxing me. Doesnt really cut any anxiety though.

Kratom works a bit better for me. When I first started taking it (the phoria capsules you can buy at gas stations) I'd take a lot to try to get some kind of really noticeable effect, and got slight mood improvement, relaxation.

The very best thing for me to do and the best way I've found it to work for me is 2 capsules when I wake up in the morning (about 1.5g). It really puts me in a great mood for the rest of the day. Not a noticeable high or anything, but a definite whistle while I work, optimistic mindset kind of thing.

Now I only take kratom in the morning, just over a gram (I think its like 1.27g's for 2 of my capsules). Its expensive getting it from the gas station. But I just havent tried buying it online before.

Taking the different strains (red, white, green vein) Sometimes I can tell a big difference. When I took the red vein at night, it made me really irritable and uncomfortable, but the red vein works best for me in the morning. The green and white were better for later, when I wasnt trying to get anything done and wanted a more relaxing effect. Still the morning lower dose has the best effect. And I find that any more taken later has no real effect.

if i were to get a sampler of one or two strains just to try, what should i get?

get a sampler with one red vein, one white, and one green to start off with. maeng da is a solid green.

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What's the difference between the various strains? Is one more energizing, one more relaxing, etc.?
Also what's Maeng Da mean, opposed to normal varieties?

Eh, just minorly to hydrocodone and MXE before the ban. I never did heroin because I knew it'd be the end of me, oxy is expensive as shit here, and I really hated fentanyl when I tried it. Mostly I used it as a crutch to help with uni, but I'm graduated now.

Damn that's a good tip with the MgO, thanks. Is it mostly the muscle relaxant properties? I have a bunch of flexeril laying around, but don't like how groggy they can make me feel. I have DPH and loperamide too.

I've had friends who got totally fucked up, lazy doctors giving them a prescription that wasn't perfect and had to jump from pills to pills and just kept getting fucked over with the transition.

I had a friend who was prescribed hardcore meds when it turned out he didn't even need them (doctor actually told him it was absolutely fucked anyone would give him that) and now he's addicted to them.

I just want to try to self medicate, and try to be moderate with it (not take it on days where I feel fine, take it on days when I feel I need the boost) Just curious if any other anons are doing/did the same.

Good combo and responsible doses, have a (you).

I just disagree with the idea that we need to separate kratom from other drugs.

I mean, I don't want to make it illegal, in fact I want to legalize everything and start harm reduction programs.

Sorry, I think I just agreed at you while claiming to disagree.

I don't know. I'm high on Ritalin and tired.

If you're using it for pain, reds, but if you're using it for it's limited recreational use or to get off opiates, white. Just my opinion though.

the color difference are the different kinds of the plant (green vein, white vein, red vein) are the colours of the veins from the leaves. white/green are more stimulating while red is more sedating but it really depends on your own body chemistry.

any more info for the curious:

ensobotanicals.com/kratom/

MD means "pimp's hand", it's supposed to be a stronger Kratom, that's not always the case. Stupid name aside, there are some great MD strains out there.

Kratom is a drug. It makes you feel happy. If that's all you need every once in a while then it's for you.

But it's not going to cure your depression and you can't take it 24/7. Just keep that in mind,

and maeng da is just a really good type of green vein kratom. it's really good at giving you a mood boost. honestly makes me feel like i'm happy. and i am not a happy person. so it's pretty cool for that.

I've also taken those "legal lean" and relaxation shots and "calming brownies" and all that other shit.

The stuff with phenibut or l-theanine (spelling?) really work well for slowing down my mind and reducing anxiety. But I build tolerance to those pretty quickly. The brownies (and this "sleepy drink") I got once work well to knock me out (I think they had melatonin in them) but thats it.

I plan to buy just l-theanine as a supplement soon. I think that works really well for anxiety for me. The kratom works really well in the morning for getting shit done and improving my mood and productivity throughout the day.

I'm coming off a really bad alcohol habit. So bad I made myself too sick to hold liquor down, and went through withdrawals that I was put in ICU for. Its been so bad for so long that the no alcohol plus seeing sober all the shit I've got to catch up on in my life really overwhelms me. The kratom works like magic for putting me in a great mindset. But again, its only really effective for me in a low dose in the morning.

yeah like i was doing it well before i stumbled upon kratom with weed (in the daytime) and hard liquor/blow/other drugs (at night). it was just getting expensive as fuck and was destroying my body.

You will not be dissapoint

wait, wtf? is this preworkout?

welcome, brother.

Good on you for quitting. I had serious trouble and didn't even go through withdrawal.

Just be careful to use kratom as a tool and not a replacement.

so this thread kind of amped me up a bit, and i took another 4gs (10 in total)

might puke, but eh.

Right just placed an order from Gaia, how long does shipping usually take? Also what are some of the best ways to consume this stuff?

Yeah, exactly that. It's not anything like opi WD, but the mag makes it a lot gentler and its fairly gentle to start with. If you're a heavy user you might opt for loperamide, but I never felt the need. The flexeril you could still take with the mag, but IME it's pretty painless to get off, although other people have reported differently, so ymmv. 500mg of mag 3x day for 72hrs and then 1x day for a few days is how I do it when I take breaks. Sometimes I just switch to cannabis for a couple weeks and wouldn't event notice the Kratom is gone, but even without cannabis, it's easy to get off IME.

toss and wash is the fastest and best way to get the most out of it (on an empty stomach works best)

make it into a tea, if you just want a mild boost (for productivity/regular use)

i've heard mixing it with chocolate milk is good. but it's better with something a little bit more acid (grapefruit juice, or water with lemon juice, etc)

anyways, that's how I do it.

Kratom is gay and darkens your cheeks.

It's all good, brother. I just want to raise mindfulness in people who use Kratom tea when it comes to our choice of words, especially since they're chomping at the bit to ban it. Everyone of us who take it itt are ambassadors for Kratom without knowing it.

The darkening under your eyes is a real and documented effect, but generally it only happens in long term users. Definitely don't use more than once or twice a week if you want to avoid this.

dark is cheeks and it kratoms your gay.

It makes my stomach turn just thinking about that combo, thank goodness for empty gelatin capsules.

Why don't you go drop some semen so you can get your fix, gayboi

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