Hey /b when is it when you first realised that all religions are complete bullshit? I'll admit it I realised pretty fucking late, I'm 21 now and I always had that what if in my head but now it's all clear to me for some reason that it's al bullshit, I mean just look at them and how many of those stupid fucking religions are they're all on nations civilizations all that bullshit it's so fucking clear that they're all man made I understand there might have been some need for some of them to stop people to killing each other and what not but it got to a point where it's brainwashing on a whole nother level it's just such complete pathetic bullshit to me now every single one of them.
Hey /b when is it when you first realised that all religions are complete bullshit...
I realised as soon as I realised how fucked up this shithole is, if there's a ''god'' he can suck my dick and he's obviously not a good one, and if there was one it's fucking dead.
religion is for cowards, cowards that don't realize that we're nothing more special than the dead dog next to us, there's no heaven or hell or whatsoever for nobody, Napoleon said it best, ''Religion is a man made concept to stop the poor from killing the rich.'' and it's so funny when those brainwashed shitheads tell you to go read the bible talmud whatever else they got to make you believe, that's like saying go read this comic to believe in superman, people are scared cowards and they choose to believe in that stupid shit out of the fear of going to hell or whatever the fuck.
GOD is REAL. Repent and simply believe and you shall be saved.
If not.... Hope you like it HOT !
Kek I have no idea if you're serious of not, that's how it got with this shitheads, it's like ''BELIEVE MAN BELIEVE IF YOU DON'T WANNA BURNIN HELL FOREVER YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE MAN WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE, YOU'LL NEVER SEE HIM OR HAVE ANY PROOF OF HIM BUT YOU BEST BELIEVE'' if not you'll burn in hell forever, he loves you though kek
>all religions are complete bullshit
Might be a bit of a stretch. Logically speaking they all can't be right. Maybe there is one that is correct.
>for some reason that it's al bullshit
Might be a good idea to come with a good reason. Your feelings don't mean shit.
>fucking clear that they're all man made
What makes it clear to you?
>brainwashing on a whole nother level
What brainwashing are you talking about?
You seem a little incoherent to me. Maybe your conclusion and argument is too.
>YOU BEST BELIEVE'
There is plenty of evidence in the God I believe in. You must be a denier. Look into it.
Are you afraid that you're going to rot in hell faggot? you probably just finished masturbating to some big throbbing cock tranny are you going to pray now? if not all of them are man written then tell me one that isn't, my proof that they're all man written it's because men wrote them and came up with them dipshit none of them are written in the sky, this universe ins infinite, all this bullshit is man made they bring up ficiton to attempt to explain shit they have no idea about, and it is brainwashing stupid fuck, don't do this or that will happen to you, be good or you won't suffer, don't kill this super rich piece of shit that raped, tortured and killed all his life cause you'll suffer and rot in hell, are you fucking stupid?
What religion are you?
>religion is for cowards
That's interesting.
I'd say that atheism is for deniers. Why do you even bother getting out of bed? Why shouldn't you just kill yourself?
>believe in that stupid shit out of the fear of going to hell
Is that really why you think people believe in God? Amazing.
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>obviously not a good one
How do you figure? How do you even know what is good? Your opinion or someone else's?
How does denying something that some primitive lunatic wrote in order to mainpulate people make you a coward you fucking sheep? have you ever seen anything in the sky you stupid shit? have ou ever went through anything rough in your life you fucking weenie? there is NO GOD you stupid piece of shit, believing that some jew faggot was born through a virgin woman and that ''god'' planet semen in a broad and he suddenly came to be is just pathetic or that he made some faggot named 'adam LMFAO and some bitch eve out of his ribs LMFAOOO that fucked and made kids that fucked and what not or some pedophile piece of shit named mohammed that fucked kiddies went to heaven on a unicorn LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO are you fucking blind? I'm serious man people like you fucking worry me.
You stupid pile of shit I'll reply to you for that dude, are you fucking stupid? have you ever seen someone on their bed dying of cancer? or siameze twins all kind of fucked up shit like that, or all those fucked up things that happen due to nature tornados earthquakes etc, are you fucking stupid? there's no fucking god you stupid fuck you eat shit on bread you know there's no god but you're a scared pussy and chose to believe in some fairytales to make up to your pathetic life you'll always live as a sheep.
the same time i learned what religion is
>Are you afraid that you're going to rot in hell
I'm not afraid. If I go it would be my choice. Just like it is your choice.
>man written
It is well known that the Holy Bible is written by men. Paul, Luke, James, Moses... just a few.
>this universe ins infinite
Not according to Steven Hawking.
>bring up ficiton
What fiction did I bring up?
>it is brainwashing
Is it brainwashing to love your neighbor as your self. Or did you have another on mind?
>are you fucking stupid
My IQ is quite high.
Prove it, kid.
Why does being an atheist mean you're life is devoid of meaning? If you need religion to give your life meaning you're a sheep.
>not according to Steven Hawking
>a religions faggot but believes in science
>believes that Steven Hawking claimed such bullshit
dude you're a fucking idiot, you can be a kind person and not kill hurt whatever without some made up bullshit dude do you realise how stupid religion really is? I'm serious though dude it's pathetic we could gather and create a religion and brainwash kids into believe it ourselves, do you understand that? who is moses faggot? who is paul? who is luke james whoever the fuck? did you meet them faggot did you suck their dicks/? have you ever witnessed a miracle or something? I doubt it faggot there's NO GOD.
>have you ever seen anything in the sky
The God I believe doesn't fly around in the sky. You must have a poor understanding of Christianity.
>went through anything rough in your life
Does cancer count?
Seems to me that you believe in sillier things:
Something can come from nothing.
Life can come from non-life.
The rational can come from the non-rational.
Information can be formed by chance.
Oh so where's your little god at now in your cancer bed faggot? why is he letting that parasite htat he put here eat you alive you stupid fucking sheep? you'll never see anything in the sky unless it's created by nature or something man made flying, you were bragging earlier about how the other user claimed about life being a shithole and said just cause his is a shithole he shouldn't point in plural now you have cancer, it's starting to sound like you're writting a new bible yourself you stupid faggot.
Really? You think the argument from evil disproves God? The only thing that it proves is that you can't understand God.
That stack of evidence for God is so great that even if your one argument made good sense it would fall in the shadow of the arguments for God.
how do you understand god faggot? do you speak with him? do you fuck him in the ass? how is me saying fuck thor in the ass zeus suck my dick odin lick my nutts evil? DUDE CLAIMING JESUS IS JUST LIKE CLAIMING POSEIDON AND BULLSHIT LIKE THAT YOU DO UNDERSTAND DON'T YOU?
>tfw i will never be this mad
>tfw i will always be comforted in stressful times by the warm hands of Jesus Christ
>atheist mean you're life is devoid of meaning
Ask Camus and Nietzsche for starters. If you are just a glob of cells on a rock in space the only thing you could hope to have is relative purpose and so does everything else.
God is far to anthropomorphic not to be man's creation.
look bro if you really do have cancer I hope the best for you I really hope you beat that shit if you really mean it but what i'm trying to say is that there's no jesus mohammed none of that shit man there's levels to brainwashing and that's the highest man RELIGION IS THE FIRST TYPE OF LAW CREATED do you understand what i'm trying to say?
ask this ask that dude do you listen to what you say? you don't even think for yourself when you say you believe in jesus is the same exact shit that you just said now you're a SHEEP. also what religion are you I'm really curious you're christian right? if so explain hell, why would god make anybody burn in eternity forever but he loves you, why do we sin with our thoughts without even wanting to, why even those small little sins that we make up in our heads would set us to burning in hell for eternity, explain you stupid shit.
dude you're so full of shit if you were such a devoted christian and believed you wouldn't even visit /b you're really full of shit and you're the proof of belief out of fear.
> kind person and not kill hurt
Sure. But by who's opinion are you relying to be a kind person and that killing is wrong? Your's or someone elses?
>>believes that Steven Hawking claimed such bullshit
"All the evidence seems to indicate, that the universe has not existed forever, but that it had a beginning, about 15 billion years ago. This is probably the most remarkable discovery of modern cosmology. Yet it is now taken for granted." Steven Hawking
>a religions faggot but believes in science
God gave us two revelations. A general revelation which is nature. A special revelation which is the Bible.
>brainwash kids into believing it ourselves
Just like you are brainwashed into believing that something can come from nothing? Sometimes the evidence is overwhelming.
>who is paul? who is luke
Who is Alexander the Great. Who is George Washington? I've never met them either. Find me one serious historian who doesn't believe Paul wrote parts of the New Testament.
>witnessed a miracle
The greatest miracle happened when the universe began. After that, miracles aren't that hard to believe.
>little god at now in your cancer bed
I don't know why I got cancer. Just like I don't know why hurricanes happen.
How can you even explain why cancer is bad?
You are incoherent.
But faggot your stupid bible claims only those planets that you know and that's it even if the universe wasn't infinite it still is to us it's something that is so huge we'll never reach and it expands constantly THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT INFINITE just cause it all started from something it doesn't mean some mistical faggot existed before anything by himself beating his dick just waiting around then decided to make it all truth is we'll never really know but all that we sure know is that religion is stupid bullshit made up by faggots as a first form of law and there's too fucking many of them each one more pathetic and dumber than the other.
>DUDE CLAIMING JESUS IS JUST LIKE CLAIMING POSEIDON
You think so? Jesus is a historical fact. If you don't understand that, you are really a dumbass and you get what you deserve.
Well I don't know why cancer is bad? maybe cause it's fucking eating you alive and you're going to die from it? but your sweet little unexisted god gave it to you so you're assuming it's a blessing? how does it feel knowing that that's all you'll get from this shitty life after you prayed for so long to that faggot and now you're going to die and be nothing nothing at all just like when you sleep without dreaming, how does that feel faggot?
Thanks
>no jesus mohammed
Its a lie to think that these two people didn't exist. "Mohammed" was a false teacher and prophet, but real.
there are many more faggots like that faggot jesus, jesus was nothing but a stupid lunatic that died like a faggot on a cross, he was nothing more than a mental piece of shit.
but what makes that pedophile faker than jesus? what did jesus really do? if god was real he would have done something incredible that would have really give people faith i lost all my faith in that good old samaritan bullshit it's just pathetic to me now oh and mohammed claimed jesus was real so that makes him fake aswell right?
>you wouldn't even visit /b
Dude. I come here for people like you.
okay dude so apparently you're a dude dying of cancer that see's it a blessing that wastes his time as he dies slowly on /b for people like me that thinks other people are crazy for not believing in a fairytale, you sum up religion in a nuttshell perfectly bro if i burn in hell you can laugh at me faggot but if you're going to just die like i will i won't be able to laugh at you since we'll both be maggot food at least I can enjoy fucking underaged girls in the ass and doing whatever the fuck I wanna do since sins don't apply to me.
>you don't even think for yourself when you say you believe in jesus
How do you figure? I can look at the evidence like anyone else. The evidence looks good to me.
>why would god make anybody burn in eternity forever
God doesn't make anyone burn in hell. It's simple. It's your choice to be seperate from him or with him. It would be evil to make you be with him if you didn't want to be.
> those small little sins
Sins won't make you go to hell. It's not having loving God and believing in him that will make you go to hell. Your sins can be forgiven.
Highschool religion class. I asked why there were no penguin fossils from the arc to Antarctica. He said "have faith". Solid religion class. But in all honesty it's always been a way to control people through out history. People now are "woke as fuck" so it's getting better lol
so if i keep raping little girls in the ass but pray and believe in god will i be alright my man? alright fuck it let's put it this way so what if god doesnt exist and it really is all bullshit how would that make you feel after believing and feeling like you were right all along?
Good for you user I was 14 when I learned this
Around 14 I became an atheist. The world feels a lot safer if there's a god or set of supernatural rules. Its just a part of romantic emotional human culture. At thisbpoint I've pretty much heard all the arguments for god or the supernatural. I think the provlem is that the believers are nt take the time to critically think about all the aspects of their claims. especially the religions with omnipotent or omniscient gods.
>WHAT MAKES IT INFINITE
Dude, it seems you don't know what "infinite" means. Words having meaning. Our universe is not infinite. Ever heard of 2nd Law of Thermodynamics?
>just cause it all started from something it doesn't mean some mistical faggot existed
Whatever created the universe had to be very powerful. Outside of time and space. And able to make a choice. Sounds like God to me.
>by himself
The Father, The Son, and the Holy spirit.
>all that we sure know is that religion is stupid
Christianity is coherent, we know this for sure.
I was about 9 I think.
I asked my mom "if God exists, why are there so many starving people in Africa?"
She had no response so I completely gave up my religion right then and there.
I was Jewish, by the way, and my mom understands and supports my choice. She actually doesn't believe anymore either.
Lol it's probably cause you had a huge imagination in a good way man, it would have been more believable if they said God is an almighty creature that really has no fucking idea on what he created and that he got lost somewhere infinite universe that's growing on and on and doesn't know how to came back and that he's obviously a huge failure but he's still trying or that he probably died somehow in the process, I mean come on man it's honestly sad it's not even bragging about being an atheist cause I don't even want to call it that it's just being logical man.
>maybe cause it's fucking eating you
Why is that bad? I'm just a glob of cells.
>god gave it to you
God didn't give me cancer. I'm pretty sure of that.
>nothing at all just like when you sleep without dreaming
Pretty sure that wouldn't be the case.
We all die, dude. I'm just not afraid of it.
religion culture all social contrasts, those people that invented those things were geniuses for their time, it's all a huge mindfuck that happened eversince it's like a bunch of us that are smart gathered and made up shit they probably did it just for the keks
>jesus was nothing but a stupid lunatic
All except that part where he rose from the dead 3 days after dying. That messes up your whole theory.
Oh you're afraid of dying faggot I know that for a fact you're terrified of dying faggot we all are, DUDE YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED IF THERE'S A HIGHER POTENT BEING THAT'S MYSTIKAL AND IS GOOD HE'D HEAL THOSE DISEASES THAT ARE PATHETIC TO HIS POWER AND HE WOULDN'T ALLOW HANDICAPED BABIES TO BE BORN YOU STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
Superman rewound time by flying super fast around the world. That's much more impressive.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Personally I find it egotistical to think that, in our possibly infinite universe, that a powerful being would care whether or not i follow 10 rules.
Also, I feel like alot of people tend to gloss over the old testament of the Bible. The part of the holy book that states to stone your wife for disobedience, or how to own slaves, or the fact god litterally killed every one in a flood.
The main reason I don't believe in religion is because of the hypocrisy in the Bible and other texts. If it was a book written by God, then why are there incorrect facts, contradicting statements, and outdated practices. And before you say "it's up to interpretation and it's not all litteral.", That makes it even less of a book to base your life on.
Because in the end, it's just a book about a dude that people said did some cool shit. Same as any fictional story written ever. Not gonna pray to Harry Potter tho.
>he would have done something incredible
Well, Jesus did rise from the dead. Pretty incredible.
Created the universe. Created Life. Pretty awesome if you ask me.
>sins don't apply to me
Good luck with that.
Nah, Shiva created the universe.
Born in a Roman Catholic family my earliest memorys of church was:
‘This is a crock of shit’
I used to look around at the worshippers, with their eyes shut, hands joined and kneeling. I never felt part of this I was always the odd one out.
I was about 5 years old.
No faith, never had it
how do you know faggot? did you suck his dick or fucked him in the ass the 3rd day after the scriptures?
kek
>keep raping little girls
If you believe in God and have faith, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't be rapping anyone.
>so what if god doesnt exist and it really is all bullshit
I go where the evidence is.
Do you know how many "proffits" died and came back 3 days later? Like fucking 20. Jesus was less then special.
Bro listen man I love you dude I really do as a human I really love you and I know i'm being an asshole look I used to believe in god and jesus myself but it's just more and more pathetic and I just feel stupid believing at this point WHY THE FUCK CANT HE JUST APPEAR FOR A SECOND IN THE SKY AND SAY LOOK FAGGOTS I EXIST PRAY FOR ME STOP SINNING AND IT'LL ALL BE ALRIGHT IS THAT TOO MUCH? ISN'T HE GOD? DUDE I USED TO PRAY FOR HOURS AND ASK HIM TO GIVE ME A SIGN AT LEAST IN MY DREAM AND YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD GET? FUCKING WEIRD DREAMS THAT INVOLVED WEIRD ASS SHIT
>you're afraid of dying faggot I know that for a fact
You seem to be making a lot of knowledge claims that you have no evidence for. You must be an atheist.
>HE WOULDN'T ALLOW HANDICAPED BABIES TO BE BORN
You seem to think you know a lot about this non-existent God.
As a legitimate question to you, what evidence? I would whole heartedly like to hear your side
>Superman rewound time
Scholars see the New Testament as a historical document. Scholars see Superman as a character in comic books. See the difference?
he walked on water man and he turned bread into wine want any more evidence? it's in the book man kek
holy shit you're fucking stupid dude if we had powers and made superman to be what jesus is now throughout generations of brainwashing it would be the same story the same old story was ON AND ON AND ON WITH DIFFERENT AND DIFFERENT RELIGIONS HOLY SHIT DUDE
We have video evidence of Superman. That's far more compelling and harder to manipulate than text. When people 2000 years from now worship Superman, they be more justified than you are right now worshiping Jesus.
Sounds like signs to me. I would ask how to get to a personal understanding.
Kek
dude how is a dream of being at a weird hotel where the people inside it had pig heads
>whether or not i follow 10 rules
It seems that you don't understand the Christian God very well. We are made in the image of God. We are intended to follow laws that flow from His very nature. Those 10 are just a tutor.
>people tend to gloss over the old testament
If you feel like that you should read Roman, Galatians, and Hebrews.
>book written by God
It is a book written by men from their perspective to convey concepts, laws, cultural information, to the people they were writing it for.
Most claimed "hypocrisy" is not such when carefully read and understood.
>about a dude that people said did some cool shit
I wonder why most scholars think it is reliable historical text? If Jesus rose from the dead, you should take it seriously.
>Shiva created the universe
That's not what the Hindus believe. They believe that the universe is uncreated/infinite.
I mean I could interpret that you are surrounded by dirty minded things (pig head) that constantly check in and out of your brain. You could also look at the hotel as a your body being a temple.
It doesn't matter what others do or do not believe. I know that to be true because I have faith that it's true.
dude prophet mohammed used to fuck little kids and he went flying to heaven on a unicorn, shouldn't we take that serious aswell?
>Do you know how many "proffits" died
Really? List them. Lay off the Zeitgeist propaganda.
and they get angry and there short and ugly and like the ugly people losers and there short and ugly and loser and ugly and pathatic and ugly and try to be better then people ugly way and by getting people introuble ugly way cause cant be better then me normal ugly way and the ugly people losers lie to people to be better then people ugly way and hurt people ugly way and to be better then people ugly way and but this is hell so fuck this planet and cause the ugly people losers that outnumber everybody and is short is the worsest thing in the universe and there gay to you and like you with there mind and torture you ugly way and keep trying to get in your mind and break down your mind walls and i dont know what else that ugly short bitch try to do but make me forget to whorship god and but the ugly people losers that outnumber everybody try to be better then me ugly way and killed alot of popular peoople actors ugly way cause cant be better then me normal way and the ugly people losers still try to be better then me and ugly popular people ugly way and lie to people ugly way so dont look pathatic ugly way and the ugly people losers outnumber everybody and cock block people ugly way and force people to like the ugly short bitch and the ugly people losers ugly way and they smell worse then dog shit and try to be better then people ugly way and its hard for the ugly popular people to survive and the ugly people losers is lame and ugly and try to be better then people ugly way and outnumber everybody
Learning science at 13 or 14 y.o. Things made sense.
Religion... you better beLIEve it is.
>more and more pathetic
Sorry it came to that for you. The evidence is too strong. If there is no God, then nothing is coherent. Not morality. Not love. Not logic. Not science. Not the universe. Not life.
Actually, it just came to me. Humor me by looking up Luke 8:27-37
>what evidence?
Here's just a few things for you:
The universe (Kalam cosmological argument)
Fine tuning (ontological argument)
DNA
Morality
Read:
John Lennox
William Craig
Alvin Plantinga
That will get you started.
i was either 7 or 9 or something. sunday school seemed cool until I asked one few many questions.
>throughout generations of brainwashing
Too much historical data. Read Dr. Gary Habermas for starters.
If you truly believe all that, you should leave this sin infested board and devote your life to Jesus.
okay dude this is legit creeping me out dude as I told you I used to be religious I just don't know what's what anymore man but wtf at pigs and pig heads being demons and how do you know that a hotel would mean your inner self?
>video evidence of Superman
We have plenty of evidence that Superman is made up too. It's simple logic, dude.
>I have faith that it's true
That's too bad. The faith that I have is evidence-based. Yours seem blind.
Retarded BS like the question of the existence of god is explicitly irrelevant. I don't know why you would need a "god" to have faith. It takes faith enough to believe one's reality is "real".
>devote your life to Jesus
I'm doing my part with the heathen.
Sad life you must have.
We also have evidence that humans have a tendency to invent deities to worship, since they have been doing that for millennia. That doesn't stop people from continuing to believe in deities.
>evidence that humans have a tendency to invent deitie
Sure. And we have evidence that there is one true God. It's your job to be skeptical and investigate the evidence and go where the evidence leads you.
If you want to debate the evidence, let me know.
Sure, given all the religions in existence now, and all the religions that have existed in the past, why are you so sure that you're right? Keep in mind that followers of all other religions are just as convinced that they are right.
I should clarify that I am a different person, from the well articulate one. Honestly, I'm only telling you what came into my spirit from the Holy Ghost. Hotels, houses, just buildings people dwell in speaks temples. You wanted a answer from your dream, I feel like you got it.
Christianity has been disproved time and time again. The originators of the Abrahamic Religions known as the Israelites have proven Jesus the "Christ" is not the Messiah. This Jesus did not fulfill prophecy according to this God's chosen people who are the authors of the Old Testament. The historicity of this Jesus is lacking. The amount of evidence for this Jesus being no more than a myth, keeps stacking up. The New Testament is loaded with contradictions and inaccuracies in addition to nobody even knowing who the true authors of the New Testament are. The Old Testament itself has been proven to be no more than fiction sprinkled with facts. With today's knowledge one would have to be deluded to accept any of the Abrahamic Religions' core beliefs as reality. Christians do not accept any of the other 2,869 known deities because they believe their God is the true God. Two thirds of the world's population do not accept the Christians' God and some of these disbelievers believe their God(s) to be the true God(s). The Abrahamic Religions have proven to be cancers to mankind. These religions are responsible for more deaths that all the wars combined. The truth is that we only have reality as the ultimate truth and trying to pass one's religious beliefs off as truth is insidious behavior.
>and all the religions that have existed in the past
It's simple logic to me. Here's a taste of my logic:
The universe had a creator. The universe was designed. DNA is information. Information doesn't come about by chance. Jesus of Nazareth rose from the dead, so he must have been telling the truth.
Hindus believe the universe is infinite.
Muhammad said Jesus didn't rise.
Buddha is dead in his grave.
>Christianity has been disproved time and time again
You are full of shit and not even worth wasting time on. When you have a real argument, come back.
Yahweh, Jesus and Allah are myths. The Tanakh, The Bibles and The Quran are fiction. The Abrahamic Religions are cancers to mankind. It is truly mind blowing that people still believe in these dangerous superstitions.
>The universe had a creator
>The universe was designed
>Information doesn't come about by chance
>Jesus rose from the dead
These are all claims that would require some serious evidence and justification, but for the sake of argument let's assume they're all true. Those claims would also line up perfectly in the case where an omnipotent 12-dimensional hypercarrot decided to create the universe out of boredom, and then projected an image of Jesus, Scooby Doo style, to play a prank on humanity.
>dangerous superstitions
Talk is cheap. You spend too much time watching Zeitgeist.
The real danger is when societies catapult God and embrace secularism. My evidence:
USSR, Mao's China, Hitler's Germany, Venezuela now. No God. No Coherence.