So why haven't you gone vegan yet, Sup Forums?

So why haven't you gone vegan yet, Sup Forums?

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ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474873
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929
cancerproject.org/survival/cancer_facts/meat.php
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21558046
cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57563739/study-finds-unsafe-mercury-levels-in-84-percent-of-all-fish/
shine.yahoo.com/shine-food/like-bacon--sausage-and-hot-dogs--too-bad--cause-that-stuff-l-kill-you--new-study-finds--174609721.html
nytimes.com/2013/04/08/health/study-points-to-new-culprit-in-heart-disease.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0
telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3346666/Mystery-of-the-meat-eaters-molecule.html
nutritionj.com/content/11/1/9/abstract
hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-and-milk/
news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19232475
diseaseproof.com/archives/hurtful-food-my-reaction-to-looking-at-an-oily-cheese-pizza.html
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2486444/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3251953/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677005/
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21048771
nutritionmd.org/nutrition_tips/nutrition_tips_understand_foods/dairy.html
drfuhrman.com/library/article17.aspx
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/
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news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483
pcrm.org/health/health-topics/milk-consumption-and-prostate-cancer
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forksoverknives.com/tmao-a-toxic-substance-formed-when-you-eat-meat-can-make-you-dead-meat/
cbsnews.com/news/meat-dairy-may-be-as-detrimental-to-your-health-as-smoking-cigarettes/
nutritionfacts.org/video/developing-an-ex-vivo-cancer-proliferation-bioassay/
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no reason

ever get pissed at all the meatcucks starting their "why haven't you started eating meat yet?" threads? we are SO much better than they are.

BECAUSE BACON XD XD LOL

Meat is tasty, the meat industry provides a lot of jobs, it is a lot more convenient to myself and others if I am not, animals possess no higher thought and kill each other rampantly in nature anyways, and a varied vegan diet is out of my price range.

What about the roids hes obvs injecting? they are from animals?

vegetables and whatnot are much cheaper simply because they take less manpower and resources

Not organic farm-to-table gluten free superfood vegetables

Tasty tasty meat

that's are a marketing gimmick

but who was steroids

How am I supposed to reasonably and cheaply get 60g of protein a day eating vegan?
And I don't want to eat the same dish every day, either

I was not born on top of the food chain by default to eat rabbit food. Decent bait OP

>Reply
Already have m8 =]

I'm not gay.

must be plenty of roids in those vegs

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>implying roids give you all the essential nutrients to become a beefcake

I will turn vegan when:
1. Vegan tastes better than meat. Considering my favorite foods are pig products (bacon, cured ham) and milk products (pizza, fondue), I don't see this happening in my lifetime.
2. There is a strong economic incentive. Buying fresh fruits and veggies can easily be more expensive than chicken/meat/fish.

Are you going to respond to any of the points made hereor answer the question here?
If not fuck off with your shitty memes

>because it tastes gud!
Eat plants and do a bit of research.

Is veganism this weeks meme or something? What have I missed?

Yeah, way to go, really addressed all the points there in a serious and concise manner, going into detail of why the single and most easily disputed point you addressed was wrong. Bravo

If we were to completely stop raising livestock we'd have to kill them all and eat them in one finally hurrah. Would you eat some of that meat vegan? The last meat ever?

Any time.
>but seriously, you can get all of the protein you need from beans, legumes, leeks, etc without breaking the bank, and they won't ruin your body as would meat
>research some of this on your own instead of expecting everyone to spoonfeed you what you want to know, just so you'll dismiss it once it's actually presented
>no pun intended

oats, edamame, broccoli, hemp protein, lentils, beans, etc.
60g/day can be done with minimal effort

t. psychopath

>global warming is bad so let's ride horses and revert back to the 1600s

>decide life is worth living
>start eating vegan
>live 10 more years of a miserable existence
>in the meantime you don't even have bacon or cheeseburgers to console you from the crushing weight of existential absurdity
>end up committing protein suicide
>live has never been better
>die 7 days later
Idk

More like 616 gallons for a whole cow of burgers, cut your bullshit

Fuck me.. vegans cant even identify tomatoes and lettuce.

Going vegan is a huge resource hog. Especially vegan replacement products, they use a lot of water. Look into the amount of water used for almonds.

You could've gone with nuts and cheese
>implying oats and broccoli have non-negligible amounts of protein
wew

Not a vegan, but beans can be an excellent protein source.

>implying only vegans eat almonds

this vegetables are cool but the vegan replacement products are too far (and too expensive)

You'll be having
>crushing weight
in another way, too.

Because my can of non-vegan soup costs 48 cents and a can of vegan soup costs over 3 dollars. Pay for my living wages and I'll be on whatever diet you want.

if you look into it, having a protein deficiency is super rare and more linked to cases of not eating enough, that being said nuts, legumes, grains all have a good amount of protein.
and as far as the jobs go, that's certainly an understandable concern, but the concern of vegans is not other to protect the health of the people and animals, but also the earth. around 70% of plant ag goes to animal ag, we could effectively feed everyone on the earth while greatly reducing the ecological impact on the environment, not just the ozone, but the oceans and the areas where people live near these disgusting farms that radiate shit

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When you make up lies it makes it seem like you have no argument.

So what. If I want sex with an attractive woman then I'll pay a hooked. There's really no other reason for me to be in shape. It's not like I'm running from lions and tigers or make a living in UFC. Check your privilege faggot.

Veggie stock: $1/gallon
Some mushrooms: $2
Some veggies of your choice: $2-5
Spices of your choice: $.25

Probably five meals worth of soup for under $5.
>learn to cook

Damn son, show me where I can get my hands on some of them vegan roids. I bet they don't even shrink your package either, cuz vegan food is like magical or some shit, everybody keeps telling me.

i kekd

I have yet to here any argument that would ever compel me to stop being vegan, all the science and logical arguments are on the vegan side.
There's a reason why it is growing so rapidly and more and more medical institutions are starting to acknowledge whats animal products do

Of course, you just want to get winded from climbing a flight of stairs. Go right ahead.

You vegans should learn to be a little more greedy and eat something with meat in it.

"Winners look to dominate their environment, losers look to merely adapt"-George Washington, 1854

This is a good point to drop some knowledge on these meatcucks.

Effects of a long-term vegetarian diet on biomarkers of antioxidant status and cardiovascular disease risk. [Nutrition. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474873

Vegetarian diets and the incidence of cancer in a low-risk population. [Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2013] - PubMed - NCBI
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929

Meat Consumption and Cancer Risk
cancerproject.org/survival/cancer_facts/meat.php

Red meat and colon cancer
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21558046

Study finds unsafe mercury levels in 84 percent of all fish
cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57563739/study-finds-unsafe-mercury-levels-in-84-percent-of-all-fish/

Like Bacon, Sausage and Hot Dogs? Then Beware: They May Raise Your Risk of Death, New Study Finds
shine.yahoo.com/shine-food/like-bacon--sausage-and-hot-dogs--too-bad--cause-that-stuff-l-kill-you--new-study-finds--174609721.html

Study Points to New Culprit in Heart Disease
nytimes.com/2013/04/08/health/study-points-to-new-culprit-in-heart-disease.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

"Neu5Gc elicits an immune reaction that might contribute to a whole spectrum of human-specific diseases"
telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/3346666/Mystery-of-the-meat-eaters-molecule.html

Restriction of meat, fish, and poultry in omnivores improves mood: a pilot randomized controlled trial
nutritionj.com/content/11/1/9/abstract

Harvard School of Public Health » milk is NOT the best source of calcium
hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium-and-milk/

Eating less meat and dairy may help reduce osteoporosis risk, Cornell studies show.
news.cornell.edu/stories/1996/11/eating-less-meat-may-help-reduce-osteoporosis-risk

Milk--the promoter of chronic Western diseases
PMID: 19232475
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19232475

Why is there so much vegan shitposting all of a sudden?

If a vegan diet is healthy, then that same diet with meat added is also healthy. Slapping the term "vegan" on a diet does not magically make it more healthy than a normal person eating a balanced diet.

No vegans in any of these threads will acknowledge this fact though, so I'm not sure why I'm wasting my time.

Due to measured levels of dioxin that exceed safety standards, the National Academy of Science has for years recommended that people avoid eating a diet rich in animal fats.
diseaseproof.com/archives/hurtful-food-my-reaction-to-looking-at-an-oily-cheese-pizza.html

Change in quality of life and immune markers after a stay at a raw vegan institute: a pilot study
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2486444/

The role of diet and physical activity in breast, colorectal, and prostate cancer survivorship: a review of the literature
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3251953/

Interindividual differences in response to plant-based diets: implications for cancer risk
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677005/

An impact of the diet on serum fatty acid and lipid profiles in Polish vegetarian children and children with allergy. [Eur J Clin Nutr. 2011] - PubMed - NCBI
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21048771

Effects of a long-term vegetarian diet on biomarkers of antioxidant status and cardiovascular disease risk. [Nutrition. 2004] - PubMed - NCBI
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15474873

Vegetarian diets and the incidence of cancer in a low-risk population. [Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev. 2013] - PubMed - NCBI
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23169929

Meat Consumption and Cancer Risk
cancerproject.org/survival/cancer_facts/meat.php

Understanding the Problems with Dairy Products
nutritionmd.org/nutrition_tips/nutrition_tips_understand_foods/dairy.html
1. Osteoporosis 2. Cardiovascular Disease 3. Cancer 4. Diabetes 5. Lactose Intolerance 6. Vitamin D Toxicity 7. Contaminants 8. Health Concerns of Infants and Children

Nutrient Density of Animal and Plant Foods:
drfuhrman.com/library/article17.aspx

I can find 4 of those things locally, and 3 of them will be in cans or heavily processed and packaged. I really don't see a lot of variety in terms of the types of meals I could make, either. Also, I feel like I would still have to prepare and eat a whole fucking lot to get 60 grams out of them in a day, to the point that the time spent prepping and eating and the money spent on quantity would far outweigh how I eat now.

Nutritional Update for Physicians: Plant-Based Diets (a summary)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3662288/

Acne, dairy and cancer (PMID: 20046583)
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18398033?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=2

Hormones in milk can be dangerous By Corydon Ireland
news.harvard.edu/gazette/2006/12.07/11-dairy.html

Pork May Raise Your Risk of Death, New Study Finds
shine.yahoo.com/shine-food/like-bacon--sausage-and-hot-dogs--too-bad--cause-that-stuff-l-kill-you--new-study-finds--174609721.html

Milk consumption: aggravating factor of acne and promoter of chronic diseases of Western societies
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19243483

Milk Consumption and Prostate Cancer
pcrm.org/health/health-topics/milk-consumption-and-prostate-cancer

Dairy Linked to Acne Development
pcrm.org/health/medNews/dairy-linked-to-acne-development

youtube.com/watch?v=yfsT-qYeqGM&feature=player_embedded[Open]
Celebrated Cornell University professor T. Colin Campbell Phd, presents the overwhelming evidence showing that animal protein is one of the most potent carcinogens people are exposed to.

TMAO: A Toxic Substance Formed When You Eat Meat Can Make You... Dead Meat
forksoverknives.com/tmao-a-toxic-substance-formed-when-you-eat-meat-can-make-you-dead-meat/

Meat, dairy may be as detrimental to your health as smoking cigarettes, study says
cbsnews.com/news/meat-dairy-may-be-as-detrimental-to-your-health-as-smoking-cigarettes/

Vegan Blood Fights Cancer 8x Better
nutritionfacts.org/video/developing-an-ex-vivo-cancer-proliferation-bioassay/

I love how according to veggiecucks, eating meat equals fast food and being fat.

You can make meat based dishes at home you know? With quality ingredients and proper cooking. In an unbelievable set of circumstances, you can even fit it into a diet that doesn't make you fat.

Crazytalk, I know.

Yes, that is all I want all day. Beans.

Nigger I haven't been to the gym in 10 years and am pushing 300lbs and I don't get winded climbing three flights on the daily. Get on my level you skinny vegan bitch

vegan master race reporting

if you haven´t watched this vid yet, you should
youtube.com/watch?v=es6U00LMmC4&t=7s

None of those shitty copypasta links you keep posting say that a vegan diet is better than a well balanced diet that includes meat.

It's all statistics that include the general population that has horrible diets of mostly fast food.
Eating healthy will make you a more healthy person, period. There's no requirement to cut meat out of your diet, there are healthy forms of meat.

Fucking this, don't worry though, they'll just ignore you

Watch the veggie cucks ignore this too

alternate between eating beans and socking cock semen is a great source of protein

>implying I'm not

>this meme again
Any diet can incorporate the healthy aspects of a vegan diet and still eat meat/eggs/dairy. Slapping the word vegan doesn't magically make a diet healthy, the same way taking the vegan label off a diet doesn't magically make it healthy.

Washing your brain, one vegan post at a time

youtu.be/SrkiHo2Ivc4
Honestly this guy has all the facts. At first I thought this whole vegan craze was stupid, but then I watched this video and realized I wanted to be just like this guy

>pushing 300lbs and I don't get winded climbing three flights on the daily
You lying Majin Buu-looking fuck, lmao

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Nigger I look sexy for 300lbs

Damn, Hungary.
>Guess you really are, "hungry."

meat is tasty? so are many vegan meals .. its not all salads you know

meat industry provides lots of jobs? so does the war industry .. this fact doesn't justify it

more convenient? just a matter of habit .. do a google search, see how many vegan places are in your city, they may not be infinite but you dont need that many

animals possess no higher thought? definitely enough for feeling pain, fear, joy, and many other things .. you should see videos of cows getting their calfs stolen, see if they notice ..

they kill each other rampantly? not a fraction as cruelly as we do, trust me .. not a fleeting chance, we're just too sadistic for nature

varied vegan diet out of your price range? learn to cook then you fucking lazy excuse of a human .. since when is convenience a good excuse for killing indiscriminately .. do the right thing, not the easy one

This.

>according to veggiecucks, eating meat equals fast food and being fat

Shit you just made up.

Show proof.

This is pretty good. He tells it like it is a lot better than these vegan shills.

Cutting meat out of your diet provides no benefit.
Eating a well balanced healthy diet provides the benefit.

Because it's another agenda by multibillionaires to get the peasants back to a mostly vegan diet.

When the majority of multi billionaires eat only vegetables, then so will I. Until then fuck off you fucking sheep.

so articles about meat/dairy causing cancer, heart disease, bone diseases don't imply that avoiding meat will make you healthier?
I really hope your trolling
I cant wait to be old and have a functioning penis since I wont have clogged my arteries with bullshit, have fun stuffing hypertension meds with you Viagra if anyone will even have sex with your fat slob of a body

The problem here is that semen isn't vegan unless it's from a vegan.

Means the protein in vegan semes also has to be from a plant.

So it requires at least one vegan to eat beans, the others can drink his semen.

Daily reminder that having a good body will put you above most other men. Being vegan will passively give you a good body if you eat healthy foods even if you're too lazy to go to the gym.

Vegan bodybuilders spend hours managing thier diet and vitamins, and eat so many shakes and other compressed veggies that they have a bigger impact on the enivoerment than meat eaters ever did.

perfectly true

now remember that producing meat is many times more inefficient than producing vegetables, since cattle needs tons of space, water and food to grow

also, remember how rising chickens in closed areas, cows in confined spaces, pigs in jails, and other atrocities, generally strike you as highly inmoral (just picture your dog there, see if you like it)

health is not the only reason why people go vegan, you know ...

Provide me a source to your claim that all meat is unhealthy.
You understand that meat encompasses a very wide variety of foods with completely different nutritional values, right?

I will stop eating meat after Armageddon when we are asked to stop eating meat by God.
Until then, He allows it so I enjoy the yummy goodness.
If God allows it vegan guys, why are you so hell bent on going against His laws?
You are only making yourselves look petty and in need of justification of your views by 'converting' everyone. Just like atheists. It's not a good look anons. You enjoy your life and we will enjoy ours.

Gigantic monster bodybuilders probably eat 6,000 calories per day. That's three times as much resources from their food. But their food only uses around 1/100 the resources. Vegan bodybuilding is the future.

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damn I hate those shitty MS Word graphs without any real information.

youtube.com/watch?v=8r-e2NDSTuE

because animal suffering is the only way I can get hard anymore

someone just posted a bunch of sources. maybe read them? or go to nutritionfacts.org, lots of links to studies and medical articles

Do you think simply having more food in the areas that produce food means starving people will get the extra food? Also, protecting the earth still doesn't solve the problem of the jobs lost, it doen't matter where concerns lie. And as someone who actually lives near those disgusting farms, it really isn't bad. If you were actually concerned about environmental health effects on humans you should look at the amount of smog in cities, or the amount of BPA in packaging.

I'm not vegan because my diet is comprised of mostly vegetables with the occasional meat side dish. It's healthy and affordable. I like the taste of meat. That's enough justification for me to eat it. If it was illegal I wouldnt stop. Just as I download pirated movies and games and pay no heed to my moral obligations I too don't care about animals. I don't care about animals as much as I don't care about starving children in Africa. You're free to do as you like but it you try to make it my problem then I'll make it your problem.

dumbest shit I've read today.

How do you adequately address the "point" "meat is tasty." That's not a point hardtard, "tasty" is subjective.

I never said I approve of factory farming.
Factory farming is the reason most meats are bad for you.

The idea that meat cannot be healthy is absolutely ridiculous, especially when the US has such a huge population of wild game animals like Deer and Elk that can give you 500+lbs of extremely nutrient dense lean meat for the cost of a hunting tag ($25-$75)

guess ill just kill and eat you then

Steak is incredible. I plan to bbq throughout the winter as well.

None of those sources says that no meat can be healthy.
Have you even read them? Or did you just grab a bunch of shitty links from google.

>Veggies and grains don't need to be processed or transported, or require items that need to be transported to the sites they are grown to grow them, which are by far the most extensive use of fossil fuels in the process of raising livestock.

meat is good, fuck off faggots

It's really not that hard, I feel like people just want to make out like it is because they want to blame some reason other than their own apathy for not going vegan. It's cheaper, it's healthier, it's not hard at all.