There is a real inefficiency of our species, built from evolution, of course...

There is a real inefficiency of our species, built from evolution, of course, it is the fact that men are cucked completely by their cocks, and that women are completely too emotional, we live in an age where sexual mates are abundant and so conserving this sacred act of conception is pretty irrelevant, unless you're having kids.

So how do we solve this issue of biology getting in the way of our pure intelligent spirit? I think that hormonal treatment into androgyny might help, men should take estrogen to become less sexually interested and women should take more testosterone to become less emotional.

Would this help in organising an efficient, scientific society?

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>bioLOGy

Your science is bad, and you should feel bad. Contemplate upon these glorious mountains and find salvation.

Hormonal imbalance often leads to asexuality, sexuality is the tool of the animal, we are more than animal.

You did not spend long enough contemplating the peaks. Observe the swell and retreat of rock and sky, and see in it the exchange of masculine and feminine. These traits are inherent.

The essence of gender is brought from hormones, which in turn shapes sexuality, that's why kids are agender and asexual until puberty, and then distinction and heterosexuality is spawned, manipulating this primordial act of chemistry would inturn change the essence of humanity.

>men are cucked by their cocks
the fuck does this even mean
>women are completely too emotional
spoken like a basement-dwelling faggot who has never actually spoken with a woman

This reeks of Rick and Morty almost as much as it reeks of b8

i r8 0/8

An efficient scientific society may be achieved by homogeneous affects such as these it won't happen anytime soon, we'll never know.

Also as a human being I think you're retarded

Manipulating our species to be other than it is would be perversion. We are meant to be sexual. If you are unfulfilled sexually, seek enlightenment.

i am a woman, and by men are cucked by their cocks i mean that they are slaves to their sexual desire, thats why theres so much rape comitted by males and more depression in females, you can't just refute this with muh neckbeard xD

obviously we have to suppress it
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I am purposefully not being spiritual about this, I have explained, in this material realm, science is the tool of divine manipulation, I intend to utilise it.

Then you are a slave to a false hypothesis. You seek to remake the world into sexless drones because you, yourself, are a sexless drone. The hormonal treatments you propose aren't even viable, they would not do what you intend.

Travel to the high places and regather your mind.

>I am a woman
I don't believe you.
>slaves to their sexual desire
So THAT'S why modern technology is better than it ever has been and only continues to improve!

>thats why theres so much rape comitted by males and more depression in females
I'm not gonna argue that men don't rape women with surprising regularity, but if you're gonna say it's because they're a "slave to their sexual desires" I'm gonna need literally any fucking evidence to back that up.

As for why there's more depression in females, you don't know how depression works, do you? Depression doesn't make you emotional. It's a numbing, soul-crushing void that makes you fail to see motivation to even live your life.

tl;dr: go do some fucking research about what you're talking about and THEN come back and keep shitposting.

My mind is shattered, I cannot gather the pieces old wise one, tis true, I am not of your humanity, I have rejected the game you play called society, I only wish to impose my ideals onto yours as to seek control of it, I am subliminally manipulating your world through these methods, and I don't intend to stop.

I'm sorry to hear that.

Healing exists in all places, although it is most easy to seek in the high mountains, where the wind and the cold and the free air will strip the hurt from you.

What is it that hurt you and drove you from the tribe?

Scientists are generally asexual or have an unavilability of sexual mates, that's why they can innovate, you're being way too defensive of my obvious statement of men being horny all the time, its the general trend in males, maybe you're different, and yes, I know what depression is, and that is the depression I am talking about occuring in females.

My heart was broken, I saw to escape reality in order to pacify my pain, I am still drifting aimlessly in the void, I am dissolving into it, I WILL be consumed by it.

That isn't possible. The void is like an ocean, and even if it swallows you, you leave behind the current of your life.

The world is harsh, and frightening. But why not focus on yourself instead of wanting to re-engineer society?

You are worthy of happiness, and I'm sorry someone took away your ability to feel whole. But you are still here.

Climb.

I have become an observer, not an actor, I am outside, not inside, I am transparent, not opaque, my self-help is being able to survive comfortably, I don't have aspirations of a greater future, just an eternal content present.

Also, I just saw the hormonal adjustment bullshit you're proposing, so I guess it's now relevant to the conversation to say that I'm a trans woman, so I've done a significant amount of research on the effects of hormones on the human body.

The problem with messing with our hormones is that they are absolutely necessary for having our brains and bodies function properly. Too much of the wrong set of hormones induces what is known as dysphoria, a depression-like state partially caused by estrogen/testosterone imbalance. A complete lack of sex hormones causes a breakdown in bone density that can lead to several medical conditions. It is important to keep proper hormonal balance, or you risk serious mental or physical damage.

The "general trend" of horniness in men is partially due to cultural expectations. As for the inherent component, scientists who have an unavailability of sexual mates would be horny MORE often, not less, no? That kinda makes it seem like arousal and ability to perform scientific study are unrelated.

As for asexual scientists, asexuality is a common side effect of autism. As is extreme intelligence. It stands to reason that there would be a greater than average correlation of high-functioning autistic people and scientific achievement.

You're looking at a whole lot of correlation and calling it causation.

Oh ok then. I'll just go build myself an apollo program of my own to be a part of. One guy in the world did it, therefore anyone can.

>kids are agender and asexual until puberty
lol wat

And yet you are not content. You are in pain and terribly unhappy. Even I can see that, through skeins of distance and miles of wire.

If you live the rest of your life as an observer, you will see others attain the happiness you wish for. If you climb, and fight, your will find your own happiness.

I have fought, and killed, and died in more lands than you can know. I am still here. I want you to be happy again, because you deserve it.

Climb further.

Men are the depressive sex.

I didn't say it was easy. Life is an incredible struggle. Don't mistake struggle for impossibility.

I suppose I'm seeing autistic people as my ideal of a workforce, perhaps my ideas of transforming non-afflicted people into these biological machines would be improper and inefficient. Thanks for helping me see that.

Happiness to me is to live unconditionally, but I feel that I must be approving to my peers, to mysefl, mediocrity is worse than being shit because there's nothing for me to endlessly analyse and criticise and seek to improve, I am wrestling with empathy, I don't fee fit for this world, I need drugs to make me better, I can't do this alone.

We already solved this problem (kind of) with birth control pills, plastic bottles and porn.

Yoooooo, not op, what if I don't know how to climb, metaphorically speaking.. Where do I start. Also, literally speaking I live in an area devoid of mountains and don't have transportation, so... Any sage advice wiser one?

We are human beings. We do not change ourselves to suit the enviornment, we change the enviornment. Apparantly now we need to change the environment back in some ways to support natural gender roles but to a degree that does not infringe upon individual freedom, so allowing some women to work and stuff cause circumstances or whatever maybe she just wants to, but not encouraging it in society or hiring too many females. With jobs where men make enough money to support families.

Or we could genderbend by artificially adjusting ourselves hormonally? That's fucked. Human body doesn't even work that way anyways, side effects and shit long term especially on a mass scale. Not to mention fucking with humanity at this level of basic behaviour and there's no telling the consequences.

No OP stupid idea

The greatest inefficiency in our species is having the technology to more than cover the means of production and comfortably reduce the workweek from 40 hours to 12, freeing everyone up to focus on more rewarding uses of their time, benefiting their mental and physical heath. Instead, the outdated 40hr workweek creates labor excesses and shortages all over, creating a worsening destabilizing effect on employment numbers and in combination with the lack of a centralized job/skill bank, we've got hundreds of thousands of people who are no good at their jobs working in each other's positions being unproductive and performing a maximum amount of mediocre unproductive work, instead of being placed in the the positions of interest where they do less of far higher quality output and the entire society is better off for it.

What is the more?

Yeah. I don't know whether or not you're autistic, I'd guess you're asexual, or more likely this is bait, but the problems that arise from anything that would get you to the world you envision are much larger than you think they are. That's the problem with most easy solutions; there are hidden costs associated with taking a path that make it infeasible or immoral.

What in the fuck are you on about? Neat pics btw, I'm too scared of mountains though because of bears. I like the beach.

There is a duality of man - body and soul

>There is a real inefficiency of our species

yeah, its a little something called incel

Always seek self improvement.

Open your mind to the opportunities around you. Train your body to be strong. Train your mind to be agile. Read and think.

Take time to be alone, under the sky. Think about the past. How did you arrive at this point? Draw an arrow from the quiver of your memories and aim it at the future you desire. Where it lands, climb there.

I am autistic, asexual and a transwoman if that gives any understanding context to my ramblings.

One of the hardest things about the human condition is that we are a bundle of contradictions.

But, I think you have a conception of what you really want out of life.

If you pursue it unconditionally, others will follow. You will be a great man. Like this stream, always roiling on the surface, but placid beneath. Content in cutting your own course through the unyielding rock of the world.

Some people will not output high quality work no matter what job you give them.
People should have the choice to work more if they want to

Authoritarian policies where the state decides what hormones are legally mandated to be forced into your body? Individual human sovereignity over our own fucking bodies superseded for the sake of your farflung bullshit half baked control freak population control plot? Really?

To cut odwn on maintenance and pointless jobs by having an efficient economy would mean that the population would have to be lowered in order to accomidate the distribution of wealth given from corporations, which is why some idealists believe that UBI will be an inevitability with the rise of technology.

I never said that it would be the state which would enforce this social contract.

Quite a bit, actually. The trans part also contextualizes why you're on this site in the first place.

The unfortunate fact of the matter is that even if there weren't massive disadvantages your idea straight up wouldn't work. Hormones simply don't play as big a role on science or progress as you think they do. It's just sexuality, which can easily coexist with progress.

I like you user, thank you. I wouldn't mind talking to you for a while, I could use a friend. Do you mind? One of the hardest things for me has been willpower, and I don't know how to change that.
Every time I've started to climb, started a new routine, a new workout, a new diet, a new job, I fall. I start up that mountain, but then I find it so much easier to lay down in the snow and not even bother with climbing to the peak. I hate it because it's gotten me in a very bad place, but I can't seem to get up, get up and resume the climb and not lay down. I've thought about it and can't come up with an answer, which spirals me further down....

That is because we dream. And our big dreams end either where they began, or in ashes with the rest of our lives.

I have yet to meet a woman who dreams big.
>what do you want in life?
>car, house, pool, outfits, country club membership, bigger bewbs than my friends, hotter husband than my friends, kids, you to pay for everything I want, you do do all the work
>how about you
>I'm trying to learn conversational french and Italian at the same time, designing an underwater habitat for my vacation property, planning a snowshoeing trip across the Denali for next year, I'd like to get a handle on Epicuriansm, and finish putting my company and product plan together, so that keeps me pretty engaged and busy.
> why would you want to do all that. That's not normal.
> :|

lol

oh brother
Still stuck in that medieval drek

Most people fall into that description now.

They should have the choice. More than 12 hours & you're on overtime.

Something tells me you have yet to hold a conversation with a woman longer than it took the odor from your fat-flabs to waft to her nose. Those "excuse me" moments that keep happening to you are because you're weird, not because she got busy.

Something tells me you're a child. And that something is the dumb crap you wrote.

Imagine a man who is very cold. If he lays down in the snows of the mountains he will die. Death is sweet, and slow, it is the sound of snowflakes on your eyelashes. Do not die.

Wake. Rub your hands together. Set numb fingers to brittle branches and kindle a fire. Warm and rise. And then... descend.

If you could not make the climb alone there is no shame. Return to the valley and seek friends. It is very, very hard, but please try.

Approach the man in the gym who works out alone, ask his advice to become stronger.

Go to the temple or church of your choice, seek a man of the cloth to hear your worries.

Go back to your family, and tell them you love them, if you can.

Gather your strength to climb further. It will be easier with so many hands pushing you upward.

Something tells me that not only did I hit the nail on the head, but also that you crave validation and the best way to get that is to anonymously rag on women over the internet because the thought of a woman being as smart as you is the most terrifying thing you can think of. And that something is your response to what I wrote.

Or how about you discuss with your employer that you only want 12 hours a week. If they decide not to hire you that's their choice, and your choice to stick with it.

As well, you'll only have so much money - but that's also not a problem. You can easily live like the 1950s with only 12 hour work weeks. We won't miss you on Sup Forums, user. Go do it.

Is the summit worth it? Why climb, when at the top the only thing left is a bigger mountain? Rise, warm myself, and then Climb for others? Climb for myself? At the end, the mountain is nothing more than a grain of sand on a beach more vast and infinite than we can imagine. Why not join it? I appreciate your kind words user, and there was a time when i'd agree with you.. But I'm struggling now, the snow seems so inviting and the chill not as harsh

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You are correct. If you want to stay content you have to keep climbing. Thaz's actually scientifically proven. The human brain releases dopamine and other reward neurotransmitters when it detects that it is moving towards a desired goal. So I would advice to set a serious goal and pursue it. Sure you may go astray time to time but it is worthwhile to pursue your goals because nothing else will make you feel like your life is worth anything. If you have been laying in the snow for a long time it might seem like you lack the power or you don't believe there is something to be gained from life. But that are just your freezing limbs and if you start to move them again you will start to feel again.

Damn this thread is bad and OP's ideas are so bad.. it's not even reductionist when it's so ungrounded in reality.

You're right user, if I didn't want to be here I wouldn't be.. If I start moving again I will thaw out. Any practical advice? For example I want to start running, but I know that after I'm done talking to you I'll sleep the day away, and when I do wake, do in essence, nothing. I'll make excesses or forget.