Can you name 5 genres that were started by women?

Can you name 5 genres that were started by women?

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1 Vaporwave
2 Riot Grrrl
3 Vaporwave
4 Riot Grrrl
5 Vaporwave

Every genre since the people who started them needed to be born from a woman

lol

Whoa. White men btfo

literally can't think of a single one

But Oneohtrix point never is a man

Vektroid, Chuck Person is proto-vaporwave

wtf i hate men now

She identifies as a woman, you queerphobe.

There's a whole interview in Pitchfork with Lopatin talking about transgender issues.

vektroid is a transexual. guy dressing up as a woman. not a real woman. also riot grrrl is exclusive only to women so it doesnt count

holy shit theres actually 0 genres invented by women

Post Punk
New Wave
Indie Pop
Dream Pop
Noise Rock

source for all of those

The Internet

use the internet idiot, I ain't doing the research to establish well known facts

Oneohtrix Point Never is a man who identifies and presents as a man

>transexual. guy dressing up as a woman
you've got to be joking right? unless you're some weirdo Sup Forumsack i refuse to believe you're stupid enough to think that's what a "transexual" is

neat, actual women in our presence

Ok, its a guy who chops his dick off and dresses like a woman. Happy?

no, gender is not the same as sex

oh so you're one of them
The_Donald
>>>stormfront
kys

>tfw the transphobes are outnumbered

feels good

hate to break it to you but hating trannys is a lot more common than fringe internet fourms also 45% lol

>post punk
Pere Ubu
>new wave
Blondie (4/5 men) or Nick Lowe
>Indie Pop
Just no
>Dream Pop
You could argue that TVU did or Lori & The Chameleons
>Noise Rock
nigga what the fuck

none of these are correct

But were talking about "transexual", where did gender come into this

Nice generalization. Not everyone who disagrees with you is a trump supporter or white nationalist

op here, meant biological females

Patti smith pretty much predicted the entire course of punk and indie rock so it is.

the idea of gender is one that can be changed where sex is biological the term was made up by a man who raped children and drove a child to suicide by convincing him he was a girl through abuse

no because no genre was ever invented by single person you fucking mong

wrong

>also 45% lol
what 45%? nigga finish your thought before you press 'Submit'.
>trannys
it's 'Trannies'
t.tranny
>hating [anything] is more common
only in some hillbilly shithole in USA or in a third-world country, people everywhere else live and let live like they should, don't hate anyone for no reason and don't give a shit, like they should.
>were
it's 'We're'
>"transexual"
it's 'Transsexual'
>where did Gender come into this
good point, Transsexuals change their sex, they get a sex change, Gender is a different concept, but almost all Transsexuals are also Transgender.
>Nice generalization
Nigga i don't care if you're a trump supporter or a white nationalist or not, if you disrespect someone's existence for no reason then you're just as bad as those groups and deserve to be grouped together with them. That's why nobody likes you and nobody respects you, you gotta learn to respect others first. Take this advice in grammar and life and i hope it helps you on your way back to your containment board.

the 45% of transexuals that kill themselves you dipshit theres also a lot more mtf transexuals that die because their 'pussies' are literally open wounds that you have to dialate

shut up tyranny

>what is chuck berry
>what is the velvet underground

>Nigga i don't care if you're a trump supporter or a white nationalist or not, if you disrespect someone's existence for no reason then you're just as bad as those groups and deserve to be grouped together with them. That's why nobody likes you and nobody respects you, you gotta learn to respect others first. Take this advice in grammar and life and i hope it helps you on your way back to your containment board.

hold on there user, I didn't allow you to be mature and reasonable on the internet, especially on a Sup Forums board.

>the velvet underground
>single person

lol, pansexual tranny faggot is upset

tvu predicted patti smith's entire career. whats your point?

yep, its a troubled existence

What bothers me the most about "gender identity" is that people who insit it exists, only reinforce the idea that "blue is for men, pink for girls" by buying into this gender dichatomey. Sex is a simply a biological identifier, gender doesnt exist besides a bunch of arbitrary lablels created by the people who claim to want to free people from labels.

>browses Sup Forums
>"BOOHOO YOU NEED TO RESPECT PEOPLE! STOP BEING MEAN!"
Jesus, is summer almost over yet

suck my feminine penis

>nobody likes you and nobody respects you
Nice projection

Without women, lou wouldn't have been alive, checkmate fuckface.
Gender identity is a social construct, of course if fucking 'exists' idiot.

Sex is also simply an arbitrary label, and like all labels, is justified by its usage.
>reinforce the idea that "blue is for men, pink for girls" by buying into this gender dichotomy
I don't get it, a trans man can still behave feminine if they feel like it. The rule that men can't like flowers or whatever is a conservative thing.

>>nobody likes you and nobody respects you
>Nice projection
nice projection

it blows my mind that people like you exist. honestly can't fathom it. always thought the severe delusion was exaggerated but apparently not

It has a special sociologist name by the way. "Gender essentialism".

And feminists used to absolutely rage against it up until the 00s. Where they suddenly flipped without any explanation of contradicting an entire generation argument against their new position.

Blondie invented Rap

right, but what he's saying is that he thinks people cherrypick which aspects of the social construct they want to play into while bashing other facets of it

i don't entirely agree but i do think that why GNC / nonbinary people are the master race lol

even if you isolated men and women from gender/sex differences caused by social constructs they would still, on average, behave very differently from the opposite sex. this is a fact you will never be able to overcome

>who is Pigmeat Markham
>who are The Last Poets
>who is DJ Kool Herc

you are dumb
Blondie is also 4/5 men btw

>sex is also simply an arbitrary label
No it's not, it's a useful means of categorization based on science.

>a trans man man can behave feminine if they like
Which is exaclty why these "masculine" and "feminine" lables are fucking retarded and convoluted. They serve zero purpose.

>the 45% of transexuals that kill themselves
the what? who's redneck ass you pulled that number out of? lmfao, suicide ATTEMPTS are at a way lower rate than whatever statistic you twisted to get that number.
> also a lot more mtf transexuals that die because their 'pussies' are literally open wounds that you have to dialate
nobody dies from that you dumb nigger, unlike you, people usually don't shove dirty shit up their vagoober, regardless of whether it shits out babies, and thus they don't get infected, but it's understandable you didn't know that, third world countries can't into medicine
i'm sorry trent
u too
>implying being pansexual isn't the next step in evolution
lol, christian Sup Forumsack is upset by liberals on a chinese child porn board
>not taking pleasure in BTFOing Sup Forumsacks and educating their asses and sending them on their way back to their containment board
you're not autistic enough for this website anymore senpai
not projection, deduction, it's like if you said you smeared shit on your face before going outside, from that i could deduct that nobody would respect and like you, same situation here, it's not hard, i'm sure with some adderall you can into deductive reasoning too

good night Sup Forums and remember, women invented genres, trans-women invented genres, muslims invented genres, niggers did
only Sup Forums hasn't

>women invented genres
what genres

>Anyone being scared of a transgender person
Gets the noggin' joggin'

Can you explain to me why countries with the least amount of difference in 'gender identity' end up having the most feminine women and most masculine men?

>mfw people think blondie is just debbie harry

come on guys

Im confused, are you a Sup Forumstard or SJW?

>implying an average trans-man couldn't beat your ass
those niggas get ripped just to feel normal

feel kind of sad for this person they are gonna chop of their dick and then realize why the 45% statistic is a thing

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer

>Gender identity is a social construct, of course if fucking 'exists' idiot.
It exists only a social construct, and an archaic one and regressive one. Theres no need for "gender labels". Its a fucking idiotic concept that only pushes people towards fitting in certain boxes

>uicide ATTEMPTS are at a way lower rate than whatever statistic you
not him but see pic related
neither i'm just studying genetics. its just funny when i see people completely mull over the genome and think that men act manly and women act feminine purely because of social constructs. you are woefully ignorant of basic biology if you think this is true.

it's a meme, newfriend

>he thinks proof that gender is not just a social construct equates to proof that someone's gender always matches their genitals

imagine having THIS low of a verbal iq. please dont go to law school.

So, anything other than riot grrrl? (which doesn't really count)

no. the sjws who acknowledge this fact are trying to move the goal post by saying it's a 'stupid question' or 'no one invented a genre xD'

>No it's not, it's a useful means of categorization based on science.
Ah christ. So, you're under the illusion of objects, which is essentially that you perceive something like an apple to be an object separate from the air around it, which is a distinction which your brain has fabricated because of its usefulness to your survival. The reason why this is relevant to talking about human sex versus gender is that when considering the definition of a thing you must also consider its utility or reason for existence as a concept. If it were not for the utility of the concept we call sex there would be no need for the concept we call sex and with the dissolution of the concept goes its understanding to us as reality. This is also why distinguishing objects defined by their properties in space lacks fundamental difference from objects defined by the interaction between the systems that constitute consciousness in human beings. Your perspective takes place in your head, but let it not be misunderstood that it is somehow unreal. The existence or being of thought is at least understood by the thinker.

>while bashing other facets of it
No they only bash the conservative belief that gender identity is entirely intrinsic and unalterable.
And yes, cherrypicking is perfectly ok since it's basis is shaky as fuck.
Well I respect your opinion but I don't hold to it personally.
In my mind it's similar to socialism/communism, just because something once served a purpose through class, doesn't mean that everything needs to be uprooted and destroyed.
Do you expect a single person to find what you're saying to be persuasive at all? We've seen it all and it's bullshit.
Doesn't it get old eventually when the thrill of angering anonymous people slowly die away?

My entire point is that the concepts of femenine and masculine are pointless. Sure there are trait behaviors of men and women, but divorcing that from biological sex is pointless.

For example, a man can claim to present as "femenine", but how does one quantify or measure if they are actually "femenine" and not just claiming to be?

I have nothing against acknowledging behavioral differences between men and women, but the labels themselves are complety BS.

>you can only be one of two things
this is what it has come to then huh
> why the 45% statistic is a thing
but it's not, and the real statistic for suicide ATTEMPTS shows a definite improvement after SRS
>chop their dick off
oh fuck off Sup Forums, me and you both know the only people that chop their dicks off or parts of are jews/americans at birth, trans people aren't barbarians like them
>guy forced to become grill cuz muh american circumcision
>guy doesn't feel right being a grill
>changes to be what he wants
>this is basically what trans people do
>people still deny gender dysphoria
it's like climate change at this point, you have to be retarded or have an agenda to push so shamelessly that you can't even try being realistic in what you say
i could type shit in a word document too, jackass, try a real source next time, from a credible unbiased study, then explain me how that study is done, and if you can't prove that the study is in any way a reliable source of information (has a big enough sample size, proper scientific practices and methods etc)
only then i will say that it's thanks to oppression and hatred that trans people are more prone to be suicidal and that the depression that comes with gender dysphoria is more nurture than nature
> you are woefully ignorant of basic biology if you think this is true.
next you're gonna talk shit about how women and men have different brains and how apparently an immature science like biology can explain intricate psychological behavioral patterns that we most likely will never understand

>but how does one quantify or measure if they are actually "femenine" and not just claiming to be?
you fucking can't obviously, you can't quantify and measure everything, especially when it comes to messy shit like humans, thinking you can scientifically explain everything is the least scientific thing you can do

So you agree that Sex isnt "arbitrary"?

Mate, the statistic doesnt magically apply when you chop your dick off. This effects transgender people of either sex. You're actually fucked from birth.

sex isn't any more arbitrary than california

This is actually a genuine question that was never brought up.

For transgendered people, do their suicide risks increase AFTER the operation? Or do they kill themselves more likely before they get to that point?

>you fucking can't obviously, you can't quantify and measure everything, especially when it comes to messy shit like humans, thinking you can scientifically explain everything is the least scientific thing you can do
Yes, which is exactly why picking a gender to identify as is fucking stupid. When you get down to it, gender identity is nothing more than a fashion choice

what are womemes good for, anyways? what do they excel in other than childbirth?

>do their suicide risks increase AFTER the operation
Sup Forums wants people to believe that because they love dickgirls and traps

bump

Actually its less arbitrary. California is defined by humans, sex exists naturally

They are more affictionate and emphathetic, this can make them better psychologists/teachers.

true, but society isn't perfect, and as much as it is stupid, males and females are treated very differently, which sets of the social aspect of dysphoria for trans people
and then there's the physical aspect, body features, genitals etc, in a different world, trans people would also be really different too, but we're stuck with a heavily gendered society, for now anyways

>Do you expect a single person to find what you're saying to be persuasive at all? We've seen it all and it's bullshit.
I posted a screenshot from a study done by UCLA. I'm not trying to be persuasive. It's a verifiable fact that transgender's are significantly more suicidal than nontransgender people. Idek why you're trying to dispute this point.
>Doesn't it get old eventually when the thrill of angering anonymous people slowly die away?
Again, why are you assuming I'm trying to "anger anonymous people online"? I'm just tired of you people parading around like you got all the facts straight when you're as ignorant as the bigots you purport to oppose.
>Sure there are trait behaviors of men and women
Yes, this is my only point. I think the labels are necessary. Why do you have such a virulent reaction to labels? It's not like little girls are being forced to buy dolls.

>toy company sees that the customer base for barbies are predominantly female
>therefore they advertise towards their target demographic because it's more profitable

There isn't a 'secret agenda' by 'angry old white men' trying to keep women feminine and men masculine. These corporations that leftists claim are 'oppressing them with gender roles' literally don't give a fuck about masculinity or femininity, they just go where the money is. If out of the blue all barbie purchasers in 2018 are done by males then they become the target demographic.

You people underestimate the power of the genome. These traits are millennia in the making. Women are going to act feminine and corporations are going to box them into target demographics to make money off their interests for years to come and there's nothing you can do about it in the name of 'justice'
>i could type shit in a word document too
its a study done by williams institute published on UCLA's site. it explains in great detail everything you're requesting

So you're telling me that the human definition of sex would exist if human kind was, say, wiped clean from history by magic?

nigga
are you self aware?
did you ever think, when writing that whole block, how much of a waste of time all of this is?

The labels and words we use to descibe it would be gone, but the phenomenon of sex would still exist. If the human definition of California was wiped, then California would cease to exist entirely. Jesus christ post modernists are retarded

have you ever asked yourself that question about posting on Sup Forums in general?

>Or do they kill themselves more likely before they get to that point?
this, most trans people sudoku before or during transition, while post-operation suicides are a thing, and transition itself isn't a cure (not yet anyway) cuz it's not perfect, it's a treatment that does show significant improvement, regardless, any study on trans people is biased in one way or another, or is just too unscientific to be correct

>its a study done by williams institute published on UCLA's site. it explains in great detail everything you're requesting
which proves nothing, like most "studies"

>It's a verifiable fact that transgender's are significantly more suicidal than nontransgender people. Idek why you're trying to dispute this point
Oh sorry I was responding mainly to the 2nd part of your post.
Otherwise I agree that people with dysphoria have higher suicide rates, for numerous reasons including bigotry and social discrimination which trolling, which is exactly what you're doing, just leads to more bigotry.
If you truly cared about our health you'd follow the advice of experts who have done the research and not try to pass of your high school understanding of science and psychology off as 'just being facts' or 'basic biology'.

no
>which proves nothing, like most "studies"
unbelievable. it's literally commissioned by the american foundation for suicide prevention

>Literal statistical data
>haha its just one of those "studies" that are never relevant or have any meaning
You really showed him

The phenomenon of sex referring to? I hope you aren't merely using phenomenon as a synonym for being or something. That'd be sneaky sneaky.

damn...

>If you truly cared about our health
i dont

Yes, but suicide rates are still high for people that don't even reveal their label as transgender, thus they cannot be bullied.

Trans people literally have higer suicde rates than American slaves did. How can you be so certain that the only contributing factor to that is social discrimination and not a side effect of gender dysphoria?