Do people who jack it to loli porn legitimately believe that they're not pedophiles or do they just not care...

Do people who jack it to loli porn legitimately believe that they're not pedophiles or do they just not care? What do you think Sup Forums?

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they're pedos. no debate

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that's 100% pedo
should be illegal

I used to like loli porn, though never the toddler/child looking shit. I liked the ones that were skinny little teenagers, probably because I was a skinny little teenager

if loli porn is keeping small children from being assaulted by these sick deviants isnt it all worth it

Oh yeah the pedos.

It's justifying the habit

i like loli and pizza, don't really care
ppl who say liking loli doesnt make em a pedo are fucking liars tho

Where are these normies coming from?

Something tells me they aren't content with just pictures. It's like if i REALLY wanted some ice cream but all i had on me was a drawing of it. Am i gonna be content with that or am i gonna go get some actual ice cream?

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They probably reached a certain point where they thought, "fuck it, this is what I am, I probably couldn't change even if I wanted to."

I guess that depends ... does real ice cream come with a lengthy prison sentence?

i asked my wife this when i saw a loli thread last night. we both agreed its fucked up but it should be legal. better to jack it to loli and get your fetish out instead of diddling kids irl

If you haven’t been on Sup Forums, loli threads have been here for ages snowflake.

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that's assuming too much user, but it's not entirely wrong. But I agree more with the other guy, it should be legal and in fact there are people now making child pedo dolls for fucking. I thik that's even better than jacking it to loli, if we follow what you say

And fapping to loli porn doesn't have it's consequences? It's illegal in some countries and you'll be completely socially excommunicated if you're caught by friends/family. Pedophiles don't care about risks.

Lmao

Those trips confirm this statement

True but wouldn't it be more important to try to rehabilitate pedophiles rather than let them feed their horrible urges?

Are the people that fap to rape fantasy porn rapists? Also as loli is drawn it's clearly fake but there's probably more difficulty in telling if a rape fantasy video is "real" or not. I can't speak for everyone but I don't just fap to loli and nothing else, I find fully grown women attractive in real life but the thought of a real child repulses me.

Of course. Why would pedos be concerned about risk?

i just dont care tbh

Yeah but you don't NEED to hurt anyone physically and emotionally to get ice cream. That's really comparing apples and oranges, more like apples and the fucking moon

A rapist isn't someone who is attracted to the idea of rape. A rapist is someone who has raped someone else. A person who likes rape fantasies isn't a rapist because they haven't raped anyone. A pedophile is an adult who is attracted to children, which is what lolis are. You're comparing two different things.

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That honestly sounds even worse, because you are dealing with a lot of 'ifs' there, specially because pedos (in one way or another) aren't exactly rare. One 'if' would be what if the pedo doesn't rehabilitate? another would what if he fakes being rehabilitated? What else, you throw them in or put them down even if they haven't done shit?

i honestly think the issue needs to be approached differently, and the pedo sex dolls honestly feels like a good choice for them to have. they'd still need to be careful of getting caught buying them anyway, but that's better to overcome that having them fuck kids

Same. I'll occasionally look at it and stuff but I can't stand children

I don't care as long as they're not hurting real childern.

No, they're drawn lines on a picture. Nobody is being traumatized and saying that it somehow encourages real pedos to commit rape is like blaming video games for violent crime. I've played videogames my whole adolescent life and I'm the last person to kill someone in cold blood. If someone can't tell fantasy from reality or right from wrong it means they're the ones fucked in the head. I have no desire to commit any crime. Just like how I can play as Trevor Phillip from GTA5 and not desire to kill people and smoke meth

fuck off snowflake

What if the child sex dolls don't do anything for pedophiles because it isn't the real thing?

What if it only creates new pedophiles from stupid people trying the child sex dolls for fun?

You could think of a million what if statements. And i'm not saying pedophiles should be locked away. You can't thought police people like that. I'm just saying that people who like loli porn are pedophiles and that loli porn isn't the correct way to deal with that. It's like trying to deal with a meth addiction by doing a little less meth. Like yeah, that's better but it's still not good.

Yes but pedophiles are fucked in the head. They're pedophiles.

sometimes its kinda acceptable because in hentai/anime everyone looks really young, but when its blatantly like 1-6 year olds its disgusting

>It's like trying to deal with a meth addiction by doing a little less meth. Like yeah, that's better but it's still not good.

Holy fuck your retarded.

Snowflake my ass libcuck

>Slippery slope fallacy
Fuck off with that shit, unless you can link causation and REAL cases where someone was perfectly well adjusted until they saw DRAWN loli and the degenerated from there that argument has no merit

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If I was a child-fucking reprobate I'd deny it too.

I fap to loli porn just as i fap to tentacle hentai, and i do not plan of fucking either a kid or an octopus any time soon.

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I never said that loli porn could turn a normal person into a pedophile.

>from stupid people trying to the child sex dolls for fun?

>it's sick but I don't care what people fap to
>socialist

I think loli/shota is fundamentally different from CP.

I think there's a transformative quality to the artwork that people don't really consider. Like... picture the Powerpuff Girls for a moment. Now imagine that they were real with bodies exactly proportioned the way they are, with eyes the size of fishbowls. Like how quickly does that image fall straight down into the uncanny valley?

So, no, I'm not convinced that just because someone jacks it to cartoon shit they'd actually fuck a child given half the chance, just like I don't think someone beating their meat to furry porn is necessarily more likely to leave their house and then try to go fuck their neighbor's dog.

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Pedophile does not equal child rapist. Pedophiles are simply attracted to children. Lolis are children so people attracted to them are pedophiles, but not rapists.

^with this user^

Daily reminder that are loli browsers are fucking pedophiles and should be incarcerated.

Pedophile equals someone who'd rape kids if they weren't afraid of being caught.

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Nope, again pedophiles are people who are attracted to children sexually. Most pedophiles don't want to rape anyone and feel horrible about their attraction to children.

what risks lmao, use a vpn and clean your history research and you're good to go

I've fapped to loli doujins 2 or 3 times and I'm not even attracted to childrens, that's just what you do when you're a sick fuck that want to test his limits because vanilla porn became boring. That's a real fucking thing, too much porn and sexual frustration, with a lack of a sense of social well-being, makes you insane

And personally I'd rather hear that pedophiles fuck childrens in virtual realities than in real life. Deviants will never change. Foot fetishists will never change. Not yet. We just don't have the knowledge required.

That objection is precisely the reason I mentioned the transformative quality. They're not necessarily attracted to the *idea* of fucking a child. They're attracted to the artwork itself.

Like how do I explain this concept? Like have you seen some of the neon-colored shit in some of this porn? There's not a fucking dog, cat, or manatee colored this way at fucking all and yet they fap to it. It's the art they're fapping to. The subject matter is more of a flavor if this at all makes any sense. Probably doesn't.

Quads speak the truth, mind your own fucking business. As long as nobody real is getting hurt (against their will because some people actually get off on that)

I get what you mean but the artwork is depicting a child. So if they're fapping to the artwork, they're fapping to the child.

The problem is that this could lead to them hurting someone real easily. Would you rather a pedophile fap to loli shit and potentially feed his addiction to the next level or would you rather him get actual psychiatric help that he needs?

Not accusing you of anything dude, just saying that few proposed solutions are reasonably made, i wasn't implying that those are the methods you'd apply personally.

Of course the pedo doll could fail in the sense of 'treatment' but that is not a strong enough argument to discourage its use. That's why NUMBERS have to be produced out of research using IT because as far as I know the current proposition of treatments aren't really that effecttive, why? because you'd have to first know the pedo is a pedo, and it's not like they walk with shirts stating so... except that fucking dumbass on youtube, lol

I'm fine with research that proves that the dolls help in the majority of cases. It should be extremely heavily tested before it can be released to the public though.

funny you should mentioned that technique, given how many countries are in fact stopping illegal heroin use with *legal* heroin use.. very effective programs. hmm

The subject matter is a cartoon of a child, sure. However it was drawn with intent to be sexually provocative. If this same artist used the same or similar technique on subject matter that is of age it would most likely produce a similar effect.

Like, I guess it would be one thing if a person *exclusively* jacked it to loli/shota, then okay, sure that guy's probably wack. If that is just a facet of their porn library... I'm far less convinced it's because the subject matter is a child and more convinced it's the art technique.

You might be right but i can't imagine myself fapping to some shota because the art technique is really good.

>rehabilitate pedophiles
I don't think that works, just like it doesn't work trying to turn gay people straight.

They're set that way, it's not changing.

Get out of my board fgt

I hate pedophiles. I've hated them for as long as I can remember and that my friends, well there is reason behind that. The common idiot these days will just say they hate something without truly trying to understand why they hate it but me. I have all the reason in the world to hate those bastards. I had been getting raped by my uncle for 3 years until my family decided to listen to me and get me pulled away from him with the help of child services and the school district. It was rough but I pulled through, but that's why my hatred is so amplified so far to the point where I took the life of my uncle but in a way that I was able to get away with it. I fed the poor old bastard partially raw meat, his fucked up rotted taste buds couldnt tell the difference. Died of an fbi eventually. And it didnt matter to me because of what he did to me. These sick bastards dont deserve mercy when they gave their victims none. We need more justice, and I hope there are people who feel exactly like me

who gives a fuck lol fuck you nigger

It might not even be a "really good art technique" then. Maybe it's an art technique that just... hits the right notes for somebody... ...maybe? I don't fucking know.

real kid
That's making a lot of assumptions, and it's just as fallacious as the video game violence argument where you could say "If someone plays violent videogames they might escalate to real violence because it feeds their addiction" not all people that fap to loli will actually commit any crime and probably the majority don't due to the fact that it's more widespread than actual CP so the numbers would be higher and the causation clear if it had that effect.

Can you rehabilitate the gays? sexuality isnt something you can change, its like the social form of aids, it destroys your social life and it either puts you in jail or kills you. I mean do you think none of these people are ashamed or hate themselves for what they are

Honestly i guess it's too much of a blanket statement to say that everyone who likes loli porn is a pedophile. Maybe it's just the people who fap to it specifically because it's children in a sexual situation.
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Daily reminder that loli porn has been very close to illegal countless times- in many countries, including the US, and with said legislation would have come a lot of prison time for a lot of people.

It would have been fought. The United States prison system can afford imprisoning thousands of people because they watched a naughty cartoon

*can't

The single most-watched Olympic "sport" is girls' gymnastics, with over a BILLION people watching. Do you really think a billion human beings have a burning interest in amateur gymnastic sport, or do you think it's a lot more likely that the men on this planet enjoy watching teenybopper nymphettes writhing around in tiny, ass-hugging spandex unitards?

>What do you think Sup Forums?

That you are new here.

You could also say that FPS games promote violence and could be the trigger for someone becoming a murderer. In my opinion it all exists for a reason, games and porn to vent your frustration and as long as there is no physical harm done to anyone, everything is a-ok.

pedophilia is alot more of a non-issue than people think, largely in part to a few misconceptions.

1. As far as i know people are born pedophiles, and its just a fetish, possibly one of many.

2.Being a pedophile doesn't mean you would rape anyone. Many pedophiles are disgusted with themselves, wouldnt rape people in general, or otherwise wouldn't want to take the high risk of being caught.

People fear pedophiles because children are "easier to rape", but in truth if a rapist is determined to rape and not a moron, you can rape adults almost as easily.

Any other issue with pedophiles really just applies to sex criminals in general and not particularly people who jack it to lolicon.

But to answer OP's question lolicon is literally pedophilia, people to jack to non-real images just dont care because there is literally no significant consequence aside from thought crime.

Its fun to overreact and virtue signal, and so most people continue to fear the pedo boogymen.

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am I a pilot if i see a drawing of an airplane?

am I a smoker if i see a drawing of a pack of cigarettes?

It’s so annoying hiding a loli thread every 5 minutes. They are pedo scum and that’s all.

I like shota more than loli. Does that make me gay?

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>do they just not care?
This one. Ask my girl what she thinks of me. Tell you what, I care more about that than I do about what you think of me.

>hiding

Sup Forums+ was a mistake. Go to Tumblr if you need a fucking safe space from things you just can't let yourself see.

yes.
you're looking for dicks specifically.

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Ass mad faggot got touched by his uncle

Jacking off to lolicon makes you as much of a pedophile as playing GTA makes you a mass shooter and criminal.

It doesn't.

You just want to feel morally superior to people that like things you consider taboo, even though no one is getting hurt by it. You and your thought process (or lack thereof) are what's wrong with the world.

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I just don't care anymore.

Kill liberals. Perferably in "gun-free" zones.

Have you ever fucked a petite girl? Like all Loli are basically petite girls, although there is moderation. If someone specifically only enjoys loli and nothing else then I'd be scared for them.

First and foremost, Does it matter? Pedophilia is the desire towards pre-pubescent children, but it doesn't automatically mean you fuck little kids. Loli porn is a way for them to sate their desires with no one becoming a victim.