Did the Jews really stab Germany in the back at the end of World War I or is it a meme?

Did the Jews really stab Germany in the back at the end of World War I or is it a meme?

"Stab in the back" implies they were loyal and dutiful before that point.

>inb4 404

The Nazis were so butthurt about getting utterly devastated they had to tell themselves a lie just to live with the knowledge that Germany lost a war. It would be sad if it wasn't so hilarious.

the wiki article says it's a myth but the only real argument is that the war effort was doomed anyway

Of course it was just a meme, goy.

Ever read a holocaust book or go to a museum and learn about how Jews hid jewels and gold in they're homes before they were sent to the ghetto? Hmm in Europe's poorest country at the time I wonder how they kept all that wealth

It literally saying they have no answer but it was doomed anyway

It's a complicated question. What is true for sure is that a group of predominantly Jewish bureaucrats organized a coup. Note that in Germany only 0.5% of the population was ever jewish, although they were hugely over-represented in banking, finance, academia, the media, and the professions.

But there are two questions: one, did the jews genuinely believe that the Allies would give Germany Wilson's "Fourteen Points" in the peace treaty? If they did, they were maybe incompetent traitors, but they didn't intentionally destroy Germany. Second, what would have happened had Germany continued to fight?

I think broadly speaking, when you coup a legitimate government, you have to accept responsibility when you lead your nation into disaster; so yes, Germany was taken out of the war by a Dolchstoß. And yes, it was a jewish coup, so broadly speaking the jews stabbed Germany in the back at the end of WWI.

Jews were not targeted randomly.

People ask how could the German people have done that to the Jews, but they dont ask what the Jews did to the German people.

On a collective level it was justified, on a personnel level it was still murder.

The allies were no better.

What happened in US media during the war in Iraq was basically a copy of what happened in Germany during WWI, minus lots of communist propaganda.
You decide if that was bad for the morale,...

What if the allies would've started treating Germans as a 2nd level citizens after the war the same way they treated jews?
How come allies were no better? They rebuilt the whole country

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nazis rebuild germany
credit where credit is due

How is the Third Reich REALLY viewed in Germany?

in general: as a gigantic tragic fuck-up, a descend into madness that not only did tremendous damage to our europe and the jews, but also to germany.

Everything about this image joke is wrong. Germany didn't start WW1, and they certainly were not against the entire world.

>What if the allies would've started treating Germans as a 2nd level citizens


you mean like giving Poland and Czech inhabited German territory, restricting the German military, declaring war debt that is nearly impossible to pay,...
Ever heard of Versailles? Better check your Finnish vitamin D levels, they can influence your intelligence

>restricting the German military
>Germany ignores the restrictions
>invades all of Europe

Seemed justified desu.

>Seemed justified desu.

How did this humiliation work out in the end? Versailles was one of the biggest arguments of Hitler, without it he might not have been able to convince that many people!

It's a meme. Ludendorf was shouting down everyone for throwing in the towel then three months later he was on a boat to Sweden wearing a disguise after ordering the surrender himself. Funny thing is he didn't even have the nerve to order the surrender. He and Hindenburg passed it on to the Kaiser who refused but eventually had to pass the buck to the civilian leader. By then people were declaring Soviets. You never wait until Soviets are declared. Poor form.

Anyway, Jews were a largely disloyal bunch. No one trusted them in the first place which is probably why they didn't get drafted at the same rate. Jews weren't in high civilian or military offices. It was only during the communist uprisings that Jews played a role and that was after peace broke out.

Thats exactly what they did?

>coming from the US

What a tard

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>Did the Jews really stab
The answer was already yes.

Germany declared war on Russia because Russia mobilized. I haven't heard anyone say that Russian mobilization wasn't a threat to Germany but still you are technically wrong.
Germany then declared war on France and to get to France the declared on Belgium and Holland.

Failing to make one strong, reliable alliance such as with Russia was entirely the fault of Germany.

After that failure they were obligated to mobilize against everyone the moment Austria and Russia mobilized.

Russia was mobilising, it wasn't mobilised. The whole point of the declaration of war on the Soviets was to attack while their forces where still unorganised

We are talking dub dub uno.

>soviets

>Russian Patriarchy

More of a meme really. I'm sure you can draw lines between some jewish organization. Jews fought on the frontlines as germans though.