Left or Right Sup Forums. Wwyd

Left or Right Sup Forums. Wwyd.

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Wwyd? Its wrong

>monarchism??? what's this the XVII century
>also nazism is the retarded cousin of fascism and way more radical

Anarchy is neither left nor right. Its just like ultralibertarism.

Monarchism is the only way to reach a true utopia

This.

You cant stand 100% behind any political concept. Every system has it's flaws. To think we'd be any better with another system is stupid, because we cant realize yet which flaws will surprise us with another system.
There is more than just left or right.
Everything is based on emotions. But mostly the wrong thoughts and emotions drive us to do things. If everything is cool we wont need to change anything. But if everything isnt cool, and there are a few things that could be better, and we try to change anything (as movement or individual) it will only lead to deconstruction.

yea this anons right, Anarchy would be not on the line at all. it's a lack, an absence. a "none of the above" option. and anyway the correct answer is: halfway between republicanism and socialism.

>clicked wrong post
>ffs abandon thread

monarki has nothing to do with that spectrum.

Nazism is a left-wing political ideology. It literally means "national socialism".

First off, "nazism" doesn't exist, and it's a far left political stance tardo

Just a name. It's right wing af.

Uhhh, replace conservatism with libertarianism and then we'll be golden

>ultra-nationalist, socially conservative, anti-egalitarian and fascist
>far left
Choose one

It's not retard. Obviously this post was made by an uneducated american inbred

Now

No, its not fuck off nigger

nazism is just hitler's fascist party
fascism is about consolidating power (social and economic policy as opposed) to a dictator who has complete authority.
at least at the moment consolidation of power is a pretty republican idea. In many departments it is the correct option. bureaucracy is a grave hindrance and should be eliminated where/when possible. fascism is hyperbolic extreme of this that we won't really get anywhere near anyway. balance is key!

snopes.com/2017/09/05/were-nazis-socialists/

sure kid

>b-but they have thre word socialist in their name bloohoohoo

OP, that pic is retarded

In many cases there is a mix of different ideologies built up through the last two centuries. Many north-west european countreis have a mix of a monarchy, socialism and liberalism.
Nazism and facism used to go with socialism before, and during wwII.

Global Fascism is the only choice.

I hate when people try to use the fact that it has socialist in the name as evidence that it's socialist. Like North Korea's official name is The Democratic People's Republic of Korea, but I think we all can agree that it's in no way a democratic republic.

anarchism slavery? wat

I can call my cat a dog, doesn't mean it barks

If government fail we would have all these tribes that would enslave people. Trust me i've watched this documentary called The Dead Walking, or something like that.

youtube.com/watch?v=EnXaZTbdyd4

For horseshoe theory to work people have to pretend that far left ideology is the same as far right. They do this by not reading anything about the ideology or it's principles

Heil Hitler

>Anarchism = slavery
What??? Im right wing and even I think thats absolutely ridiculous. It's like the opposite of slavery basically.

Is the implication that people will take slaves because there are no rules stopping them? Because that's unproven for one, and also a whole lot different then saying anarchism = slavery

>ultra-nationalist
Nationalism was created by the left. See the French Revolution. Just because Marxists today see things in terms of class rather than race doesn't change that. Ironically 200 years ago seeing things based on class would have been a right stance as Monarchs saw themselves inherently superior to their people and for instance a German prince could become the monarch of Greece or Mexico because nationality didn't really matter.

>socially conservative
True Hitler made a lot of concessions to appease the Prussian Junkers, come on the Nazi state was trying to re-shape German society with its ideas of eugenics, socialism, and neo-peganism, it didn't follow traditional conservative traditions.

>anti-egalitarian
They would argue all Germans are equal. In an ideal Fascist state all people work together for the betterment of the state which in turn protects the people. Although like many socialist regimes they stripe power away from the traditional establishment (nobility, businessmen) and give it to their own party bureaucracy. Because they believe they know best.

>fascist
Isn't far right, people who say so can only point to its militarism (which isn't right or left) and its nationalism (which again, isn't either and was traditionally viewed as left). While fascism rejects communism, it sees itself as socialist. The Nazis were the nationalist SOCIALIST party and the short lived Nazi Italian puppet state was the Italian SOCIAL republic. Nazi Germany had state owned time shares which all its citizens were entitled to go to for vacation. A pretty progressive social security which admittedly they inherited from the German Empire.

Let me guess: You're American? The first thing you learn about Hitler is literally that Nazism is right-wing and they only put "Socialist" in their name, to bait uneducated workers, who were fucked at that time. Jesus Christ.

en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nazism&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop#Position_within_the_political_spectrum

>all Germans are equal
>except all the Germans in death camps

the swastika is on the wrong side. National SOCIALISTS are not right wing.

Holy fuck you're dumb. Nazism is fascism.

>Being this fucking stupid.

Eat a snickers Jesus

>Far-right themes in Nazism include the argument that superior people have a right to dominate other people and purge society of supposed inferior elements.
That's not even a right or left issue.

>A major inspiration for the Nazis were the far-right nationalist Freikorps, paramilitary organizations that engaged in political violence after World War I
WTF Antifa is far right now


Most scholars especially those who are going to study the Nazis are clear Marxists. I went to grad school, although not for WW2 research, professors are apologetically Marxist, they aren't going to label the Nazis as left.
Also for much of its existence the Nazis were at war, it would be like judging America based on its policies during the Civil War and WW2.

Also like how the USSR failed to deliver on a lot of its goals you still have to separate it from what the ideology of Socialism actually is. As I said Hitler had to make a lot of concessions to the conservative Prussian Junkers, but if you read what Nazism preached, its pretty clear it wasn't right wing. Unless your definition of right wing is nationalism, militarism and things you don't like.

fascim to the right of nazism, of FFS go study history ameritard.

kind of. Hitler was inspired by Mussolini and they are very similar. But they aren't reading from the same book like all socialist states are. And I would say Nazism has a racial component that Fascism doesn't have.
Mussolini didn't believe in the idea of a pure race. And his goal was to make his subjects Italian through education and propaganda. Whereas Nazism seeks to get rid of people who aren't German and let Germans take over the now clear land.

Nazis were socialist (National Socialist Movement) so.... yeah.

Libertarian and Nationalist but that's not put there.Fuck off faggot.

No, they weren't. State institutions were still left from previous monarchistic governments. National socialists (especially in Germany) privatized immensely.
Forced labor became a factor in later war time, as in pretty much any country in war times.

Learn history, Amerifat.

Whereas Nazism seeks to get rid of people who aren't German and let Germans take over the now clear land

No,that's not what National Socialism was, German reich government worked with other governments and states

>Mussolini didn't believe in the idea of a pure race
Mussolini also didn't believe in idea of mixing and importing people from colonies

False dichotomy, the thread.

Did a 4th grader make that spectrum? "Left" and "right" are terms in political philosophy denoting the size of government with respect to its role and pervasiveness in the affairs of the state, and also marking an inverse relation to the extent of individual freedoms. Thus, anarchy, libertarianism are right wing, while fascism, socialism, and communism are left wing.

This is kindergarten basic political philosophy, folks.

Niggers and faggots need to die

Id create a pseudo-liberalist democracy while actually being a fascist ruler controlling everything by myself. I wouldnt be a dumbass and overtly attack my people, just have a secret police to make their presence known in every area. I wouldnt focus on expanisonism, but cozy up to China

Why does literally no young person admit that fascism and nazism was all left wing politics.

Because they are told it's the same as being conservative by kikes. Welcome to earth, faggot.

Trying to measure political parties in a linear fashion and not a whole fucking essay on their history.

Happy Birthday Comrades

what a goofy fucking spectrum. You forgot completely about theocracy.

also none of these forms of government relate to each other in such a way. The nazi's were facist and the communists are fascist. There's also been fascist Monarchs.

Fascism can occur under any system of government.

Hitler LITERALLY MURDERED the ENTIRE SOCIALIST WING of the Nazi party.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives

He kept the world "socialist" in Nazi to gain working class support, but there was nothing socialist about the nazi's, nothing left wing, or liberal, they were a hardcore rightwing fascist dictatorship through and through.

This. Uneducated trumpanzies think "state socialism" is left wing. Shit's hilarious. Stupid people get confused easily.

99% of leftists are 100% goy, faggot. They hate Israel and hate religion, unless it's Islam.

Unless you face your real enemy, you will never defeat them. Cowards make stawmen to fight.

How dumb of a faggot are you? It was left-on-left violence that Hitler undertook against those ON HIS OWN SIDE in order to consolidate power.

STALIN DID EXACTLY THE SAME THING

blogs.bu.edu/guidedhistory/moderneurope/laura-hill/

This is what happens when state power is increased to maximum: DICTATORSHIP.

Dumbfucks like you are useful idiots in the service of tyrants, the very first to get a bullet between the eyes.

Yeah, haha, fuckin hilarious as shit to think anyone would mistake Lenin as left wing, Lenin being an advocate of state socialism. Fuckin hilarious to even consider "state socialism" an empty ideology which denies human nature and inevitably collapses to full tilt Marxist socialism, and thus constitutes little more than a trap for the intellectually feeble.

Fuckin hilarious, dude. Bong rip!

>Clown to the left of me
>Jokers to the right
>Here I am
>Stuck in the middle with you

The only acceptable form of government is a Finnish sharp shooter from the winter war.

Hitler killed his conservative enemies, too. Read the article before you link to it. You've outed yourself a dumbshit, faggot.

This. The rest of you are faggots.

center. in every time a country votes it will swing from one side to the other with as equal extrem

nazism is left-wing you dumb shit, they're both authoritarian though nazism is more on the right

All branches are just Royal Hufftingtons Sniffing Paint

why would anyone be a socialist? theyre literally raising red flags.

Why is nazism on the right doesn't it stand for national socialism