Is donald trump a good president or not...

Is donald trump a good president or not? I'm too tired to do my own research and I get the feeling a lot of his hate is from retarded liberals, so it could all be unjustified

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Yeah actually his administration has been fantastic insofar as what it can control.

He is good but have to act retarded because the population demands scapegoats that the corporate owned media has been rilling up since forever.

you would have to be almost completely delusional or ignorant to believe he is.

So go ahead.

You want your political information from Sup Forums? Retard.

The least you could do is ask for important links.

He's doing well. Economy on the improve. He's a lot better than I expected. Just you'll never hear it on the news because they're only interested in his social media posts.

Ex Berniefag here. I've made my peace with the situation. Am pretty glad Hillary didn't win it.

The only president in history who has dined in the imperial city is definitely worth something. Buttblasted dnc shills don't even deserve the time of day

Typical left argument. ie none to speak of

He has no one working for him. They all get fired and go to jail.

He's not even a smart business man. He made money in real estate and hotels. Bottom of the barrel thinking required there.

There's only two types of folks that like him. Insanely rich folks, and the new breed of white nigger.

Everyone inbetween hate his guts.

hes a moron and will start nuclear war

You honestly can't believe that rhetoric. Do you just watch cnn all day? Step away from fb and make up your own mind dude

>He has no one working for him. They all get fired and go to jail.

All of his companies would say otherwise.

>He's not even a smart business man. He made money in real estate and hotels. Bottom of the barrel thinking required there.

How is that not smart since he's clearly making money that requires little to no work?

>There's only two types of folks that like him. Insanely rich folks, and the new breed of white nigger.

And the silent majority of Americans that don't go out and literally destroy small businesses because they're upset.

>Everyone inbetween hate his guts.

No, it's just popular to hate him. Most of the people that take issue with him are college age non voters, which coincidentally are the most prominent on social media.

In what way?

you need to stop viewing/reading:
CNN
The New York Times
The Huffington Post
Buzzfeed
AJ+

It's not rhetoric. You must watch fox news all day. It's the only media outlet that is blatantly spewing Trump propaganda like he's one of their contributors. Oh, wait...

With who? He's practically neutralized relations with Russia and China. Something king nigger did his best to destroy

Presidents don't really have an effect on the economy in the short term (definitely over the course of years though) and its been on the upswing for ages. He's been incompetent enough to not pass a damn thing even amongst a government completely controlled by his party. He's doing a good job of crippling the US' international standing. He's mostly considered a laughing stock and officials prefer not to deal with him. Also on a personal level I think he might genuinely have dementia. He can't hold a coherent thought for more than a sentence and he seems to have good and bad days.

Former lib here, but have since opened my eyes.
You know what the difference between the left and right media is?
The right has the BALLS to acknowledge their political biases, while the left cower behind their viewers, virtue signaling and bullshit identity politics, whilst in their delusions they actually think of themselves as morally superior and unbiased.

Not him but that's an ad hominem fallacy. You shouldn't assume what people do and watch. Stick to actual arguments.

>His companies.

We're talking about politically and why he's shut as potus.

>How is he not smart.

Having money doesn't equal intelligence. Listen to him speak and you'll realize he's an idiot. Or you're one, too..

>Silent majority.

You must not know how numbers work. A minority of Americans vote in trump. The rest voted against him or not at all. You're a minority. Learn how numbers work. 1/3 isn't bigger than 2/3rds. And this is a simple numbers analogy that will fly right over your head.

>College age propaganda I belive from fox news.

I'm 32.

Get off buzzfeed dude. Sorry, I meant buzzshit

the paedophiles over at Breitbart seem to love him

They don't at all. I used to gobble up all the anti fox news propaganda but when I actually looked for myself i found they have journalists with more integrity than most.
Not to say it still isn't an MSM dumpster fire but I'll take their reporting over msnbc any day.
Get your news from proper sources and don't be a mindless consumer

He's okay. He hasn't fucked too much up, but also hasn't really done much. I personally think the biggest plus has been the end of rule by the letter (still hasn't gone into effect yet so) and the biggest down side has been this war on obama care. Personally, I think he's kinda meh, and unless something really drastic happens, like an actual nuclear war, he's probably going to stay an meh president.

No. I don't watch TV. At all.
When I did watch Fox news last they were pretty against Trump. Shephard Smith and Megyn Kelly wouldn't shut up with his attacks on him. Charles Krauthammer and Juan Williams hated his guts. Chris Wallace is one of Foxes biggest faces and he's a registered Democrat.
When someone takes cheap shots at Fox saying its a far right network I know they're either blatantly lying or still think its 2004.

Never been. I'm Australian, just pointing out what we see from here. Our leaders talk like he's a child completely out of his depth and you need to work with the people around him.

What's funny here is you're mad about something he was doing, but directing it at me.

Sorry, it's obvious when someone gives a Fox News opinion you can, literally, find nowhere but Fox News and I call them on it.

That's not how you spell that word. Go be a britfag somewhere else. Provided you don't get run over by a truck of peace

The only things we hear about it these days are a lonely Hannity making a fool of himself bending over backwards to suck Trump's cock.

America in general has stepped back from being the "leader" of the world. We're no longer #1 in major international conversations, whether they be on climate, economic, or any other. He's allowed the US to move to the side lines.

Depending on your point of view that's either exactly why we elected him or a catastrophe.

His administration has more open vacancies than any other in recent memory. He's fired more people and had higher turnover, in less time, than any president in recent memory. He can't fill long-standing positions like embassy jobs and people who have had those jobs for decades are choosing to step down.

Depending on your point of view that's either exactly why we elected him or a catastrophe.

He doesn't care whether or not anyone thinks he's a catastrophe. He's marching by the beat of his own drum and damn the consequences. He has total faith in himself and doesn't need or want any one else involved in government unless they're willing to follow his lead.

Depending on your point of view that's either exactly why we elected him or a catastrophe.

So what's your point of view OP?

Stop watching Fox News. You're naming off every other media agency there is and showing how trained and stupid you are.

It's the fucking truth. He's been in office for 10 months now and dozens of major positions within his cabinet and executive agencies are still unfilled. The State Department is a fucking ghost town. And it's not even because he's too fucking incompetent to get those posts filled. It's because no one wants to work for that fucking dumpster fire of an administration other than the woefully underqualified or the batshit Nazis or both.

>one full year
>zero major bills passed
>russia

If you look at either the top or bottom of this page you'll potentially find a a link to a board titled Sup Forums.
Welcome to Sup Forums kiddo. Fyi this board is 18+

You sit there, staring at your screen watching for Russian propaganda about Hillary. You should get off Sup Forums.

>We're talking about politically and why he's shut as potus.

You specifically said "working for him" that implies that people work for him

>Having money doesn't equal intelligence. Listen to him speak and you'll realize he's an idiot. Or you're one, too..

No but making money the way he didn't isn't a sign of stupidity. He's outlandish yeah, but not dumb.

>Or you're one, too

Nice ad hominem argument you have there.

>You must not know how numbers work. A minority of Americans vote in trump. The rest voted against him or not at all. You're a minority. Learn how numbers work. 1/3 isn't bigger than 2/3rds. And this is a simple numbers analogy that will fly right over your head.

Kids voting vs adults voting, there is a reason our country isn't called the "United States of California" but I guess Kentucky isn't as important is California in terms of voting power right?

>I'm 32.

So because you're 32 does that mean everyone is 32? Just because you're 32 doesn't mean everyone is 32.

What is your real argument about Trump, list some actual issues that are caused because of Trump. In what way has your life been so dramatically affected by Trump that you feel the need to vent your anger? Use actual arguments instead of scapegoats.

Like Don Lemonparty, Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer and everyone on cnn didn't polish Obamas and Hillary's cocks?

I was sad when Hillary lost. But in hindsight I see it was the best thing for this country that she didn't get the top job.

tough times for a right-wing cathlick like Hannity

his Pope is a Liberal and his President is a faggot

I don't watch Fox or CNN, you're assuming this. I'm just saying your persuasive rhetoric is weak because you're using ad hominem and assuming what people think and do.

Want an argument, hows that tax plan going to rape us? Go look it up your fucking self I'm not arguing about it again. But please go look it up your damn fucking self.

Are you retarded?

I'm not seeing any numbers or links so your argument is weak. You're not convincing anyone here unless you can provide an actual argument.

If he ever managed to get anything actually passed, it'd be shit. All the proposals I've seen were fairly moronic, plus his GREAT BIG WALL is stupidity on a stick. But y'know, if the rest of the government can keep a hold of his leash another three years he might manage to remain a perfectly normal below average president

Is that a real response? That's disappointing. I expected a little better.

>Or you're one, too.

Filed and forgotten. White niggers annoy the shit out of me.

>Kentucky.

Further backing up my white nigger, moron suspicions. The country is sick of trash like you. It's going to hurt when you believe Fox News about just how many people don't like your kind, and the type of people they are.

Trump = not fucking sociopath Hilary Clinton

I have never met a smart, honest socialist. If you want "free" stuff, you are a moron voting in favor of raising your own taxes wasted on bullshit campaigns, brainwashing and identity politics.

Illegal immigrants are a human pest. Cheap labor services they provide are not a safe vent for economy and it's not moral to become a citizen only because your preggo mum pushed you out of her vag on other side of the border.

8 years of sand nigger Obama messed up minds of youth pretty hard. Some praise communism openly and are not jailed for it because freedom of speech protects them but it is them who want to take the same freedom from others.

White guilt "allies", feminazis, SJWs, Islam praising cucks and other psychotic vocal minorities have taken over too much political space to be ignored. That's the underrated reason why Trump won - he does not divide to conquer putting people in some deplorable socio economical baskets. He grabs them by their pussies and they allow it, everyone wins with Trump even if they keep screeching at the sky unable to live the best timeline to the fullest.

Motherfucker are you incapable of reading........go look it....up....your....daaaaaaaaamn.....self.

It wasn't an argument but a plea for you to do some fucking work, if i provide links you will not like the source so whats the point, you will find a way to shit on the sources no matter where they are from (note: not classical libtard agenda sites btw but you'll still shit on them). Therefore to avoid my last 3 hour waste of time I'm pleading for you all to actually find the information yourselves.

That's what you're actually doing. Then projecting it.

You have yet to say where you get you shining, golden information. Yet. Here you are, visiting from Sup Forums.

>hows that tax plan going to rape us

It's not? Don't argue politics if you haven't the faintest clue what you're talking about. Tax reform is long overdue and if youre one of those bottom feeding leeches who relies on government handouts neither I nor the american public at large have any sympathy for you

I am not a "trump supporter" but, I do think that despite his being privileges and having the same demeanor as every drunkard redneck in my neighbor hood he is a good president.

He is unsympathetic towards hostile entities, seems to openly delegate tasks towards other people which makes me assume he has leadership skills, and is willing to do things that his advisors decided will be best for people despite the people disagreeing publicly. These things lead me to believe he is using logic and not doing things because it makes people like him.

I dont rely on government handouts asshole. I just think it goes against his arguments for the middle class. I probably pay more in taxes than you, not to mention the shitloads of interest the feds make through my loans. (Yes i elected to have them, no I'm not saying get rid of it, I'm just saying uncle sam has and will have me by the balls for a sweet old time).

I always love whenever people say that socialism=free stuff, because it reveals that they have no fucking clue what they're talking about. It's really cute.

I thought kasich was the best candidate but he just quit at the first sign of resistance.

>please post evidence so that I can ignore it and pretend I won the argument
>if I find the evidence myself I'll won't be able to claim that the source is biased, and I might have to face the fact that I've been wrong in the past

>Hrrr drrr drr I don't watch Faux News.

If you didn't spew their opinions, maybe you wouldn't get called out. Then you wouldn't have to lie about watching faux news.

>Further backing up my white nigger, moron suspicions. The country is sick of trash like you. It's going to hurt when you believe Fox News about just how many people don't like your kind, and the type of people they are.

Ok you're clearly not getting it, I'm not from Ky I was using it as an example to question why you think California should be more important than a state with fewer people. Also I don't watch Fox news or CNN, you're using ad hominem arguments and not actually stating what you have an issue with. You're persuasive and argumentative rhetoric is pretty weak. You're not convincing anyone to follow your position. Literally all you're doing is saying "Trump is a bad man" and when someone asks how you assume that they're a Trump supporter or ignorant. What logic is there in that?

>.go look it....up....your....daaaaaaaaamn.....self

that's not how arguments work you fucking retard. It's YOUR argument, it's on YOU to back it up. We won't do your homework for you fucktard

Economy has grown EXACTLY as much as it did almost every quarter under Obama. Trump is complete garbage, and has had no impact on the economy whatsoever.

If you're going to make a claim then back it up with facts instead of your hurt feelings.

> bottom feeding leeches who relies on government handouts

You mean millionaires and big banks

When billionaires can no longer use tax shelters to avoid paying hundreds of thousands (each) every year then I'll start crying about $5000 a year going to some poor family.

You're not wrong but you have a retarded sense of perspective.

It really is the number one way of telling whether somebody does their own research or just parrots politician's talking points thoughtlessly.
>I dont know what socialism is but I sure do know that it doesn't work
>Ted Cruz told me so

Also yes no shit its long overdue, but just like fixing healthcare........
If the fix is fucking shit its not really a fix at all
Aka
We fixed healthcare.....aka no more Osamacare........by fucking millions over....nice
We REFORMED tax law.........to make america great again.......by continually growing the income inequality gap and giving little sprinkles of relief to the middle class

It wasnt an argument you fucking idiot cant you read?

>You have yet to say where you get you shining, golden information. Yet. Here you are, visiting from Sup Forums.

I never claimed anything so I don't really understand what you want. You're the one angry about trump. I'm just asking you to explain why. Also how am I projecting?

Ok well im interested in alleviating that tax burden even for cucks like you. Do you hate money or something? Uncle Sam doesn't have you by the balls the democrats do. No time like the present to uncuck yourself fuckwit

nah man you need to check your facts

If you make a claim then you should back it up with facts instead of getting mad at everyone who doesn't immediately support your feelings.

exactly, free for me = nobody had to work for it

that's how you create a class of parasite bottom feeders, promise them to take away from morally corrupted rich predators

poor will not only remain poor because of some structural barriers but also for the contempt they keep for the wealth perceived as unpure = Bernie voters

the best part of the Trump presidency is seeing Trump dragged around to all these gook countries

hope he pulls a Scalia

fortune.com/2017/08/30/donald-trump-springfield-mo-3-gdp/

>I'm too tired to do my own research
And so you will be fed sweet lies like a good little faggot. He's great, he has the best words, he hires the best people. He's going to Make America Great Again, he's going to drain the swamp, he's going to buy American and hire American.

Shit, are you ready for the Cut Cut Cut Act? That's a great name.

Donald Trump accomplishments so far: saved america from Hillary

>making argument to claim it isn't an argument so i don't have to argue arguments.

What a fucking retard

I guess you're talking about something else now, because that still has fuck all to do with socialism.

Made the rest of the world realize you guys are fucking retarded

He once described the ocean as "big water"

That's a huge increase
Do you see where it started at the bottom?
That was Obama.

I'm still not seeing an actual argument against him. Literally nothing.

>acknowledged Anime Anonymous for its hard work
oh, wait!

you can keep your statistics, i prefer the magic

As long as you know you are retarded, that's good enough for me.

Yeah I'm the retard.....fuck you dude. My statement was look up the tax reform plan and lets discuss how exactly it helps the middle class and how it goes against POTUS's own words how "his friends dont like it....believe him"....

You're choosing not to see an actual argument against him. It's petty.

At least eleven of these things are bad, many just aren't true. gr8 b8

I win. Nice, vindictive passive aggression though. Hope you inform yourself instead of run around being a shit person but thinking otherwise. Try not being quite so contrived with your ego there. Psychology would have a field day with you.

Blah blah blah retarded
Way to make a point
You sure look smart yourself

>m-m-m-millionaires! b-b-b-billionaires

Have you ever invested a penny? Do you understand how capitalism works at all? No reading Marx doesn't count. /I/ have a retarded sense of perspective yet you're the one demanding high earners be forced to give away their cash to a mob.
What a story mark

regardless of your view of Trump, we can all agree that America is still much better than slav Russia

yeah, sure

real socialism was never implemented, let's try it again his time to the fullest and for real

it won't fail this time, I swear

vote for me, I'll take from the rich and give to the poor

effectively making them poor

but fuck them, socialism baby, hell yeah punch the nazi, occupy Wall Street, smash things and loot, burn the flag!

Oh man, I didn't realize you are too dumb to understand graphs. I'm sorry. I'll tell you what that shows.

It shows that once Obama took over the country from the fucking shithole that Bush left you guys with, and this graph shows the average % increase every quarter. Trump has done nothing special, and his % gain in GDP has literally not changed at all. You god damn fucking idiot.

Not as bad as he's being made out to be by the left's raging asspain; but he's sure as shit not the best president. May actually end up being one of the worst historically depending on how the next couple years go.
He's certainly the most unqualified modern president, and the most unprepared for what the job actually is in reality & how to handle it successfully to get his agenda through.
No other modern president has had his own party turn on him more or less right off the bat & get almost nothing accomplished while they're in the governmental majority; that shit may be completely unprecedented.

I didn't vote for an actual dumb idiot. It takes a retard to do that.

Wow an old man froze on stage?
No way hillary would do something dumb like that right?
youtu.be/8za9tCGirL0
Wow what a racist that guy trump
This proves it!

Yeah, 2009 was the end of the Bush era, and it's been growing under Obama. Dumbfuck.

Real socialism was implemented. It keeps the first world afloat.

You fucking ignorant moron.

I'm an conservative, and I don't really care for him. He hasn't fucked anything too badly, only saying the occasional stupid thing. He's is too divisive and does a shitty job of finding common ground with the democrats. Other than that he is okay. At least he hasn't broken anything.

So what did Obongo do that was special....

I have a good job, decent pay, and a retirement plan. So far it hasn't really mattered one fuck who the president is, and it matters less each day.
I love trump because he drives the lefties up the fucking wall, twists the medias balls into a knot, and all around give the type of massive fuck I do.

Do you know what a tax *shelter* is fuckwad? It's where you use loopholes to avoid taxes you're legally *supposed to pay*.

I say close the loopholes the big fish are using before we worry about the problems the little fish are causing. Is that so fucking hard to understand?

But no, you're right. Screaming "ur a commie!" is the most reasonable response.

Well. Someone's defensive. Insecure about our political choices?

Also if he's an "old man" that would say such dumb shit under pressure, how is he fit to lead.

Also he has people like you agreeing with him, that's a big ol' warning sign right there

Did I say he did, you racist intellectually dishonest fuck? I'm saying Trump has had NO impact on the economy, you fucking retard. Kill yourself.