An honest question for the stormfags:

An honest question for the stormfags:

So, white people are the master race and all that shit. Whatever. But why is it all the "great nationalist movements" of white men have achieved only two things in the last 71 years since the end of WWII:

>Jack
and
>Shit

I mean, you would think organizations like the KKK, Natural Alliance, World church of the creator etc would have dominated majority white America by now...or at least, I don't know, maybe have gotten key people elected, changed some laws, etc.

Instead, America and the world is going further and further away from what you want and becoming more and more "degenerate" by the minute, what with gay marriage, interracial marriage on the rise, immigration etc.

And if you are going to blame that tiny minority "DA JEEEEEWWWWWSSSSS!" that begs the question: if such a small number of Jews managed to move the planet in the direction opposite of what you want, doesn't that prove that the Jews are indeed the real Master Race? Not that I believe that bullshit, just saying.

So tell me, oh "mighty Aryan Race," why is it all you have ever accomplished is to get a few rednecks together to throw shindigs, kill a few random people and do a lot of bitching and moaning on the internet? If your ideology is so great and your people so amazing, why haven't you accomplished shit since George Lincoln Rockwell first started jerking is tiny uncircumcised cock to to the Nazi flag way back in the 60s?

Even the fucking commies have achieved more than you have, and even the anarchists are more powerful and more organized (which is ironic as hell, I admit)

Cry a bit more for us Jewdy.

I'm not a Jews, just a "degenerate" who would like an honest answer

Nationalist movements are always low-life thugs who want to blame degenerate minorities (the only group poorer than they are) for their miserable lives.

The true Master Race (the people who use influence, not violence) has won total victory.

USA is:
> global hegemon
> invented shitposting
> best place in the world for top-1% men to start businesses, make $$$$, and fuck as many women as they want.

tl;dr: OP is a poorfag.

White peoples last chance was the Nazis and when we collectively destroyed them we destroyed ourselves, forever.

WW2 veterans gloat about killing their fellow Europeans for the jews while jamal and rasheed pump their white granddaughters full of subhuman seed.

>for the jews

You're retarded. Nobody gave a fuck about the jews until after the war was already decided. People fought for fucking years before any of that came out.

You simple minded lazy little twit. Go google "basic 20'th century history" and fucking read anything that you find.

> be op
> fail to live up to Nazi virtues of physical fitness, trustworthiness, and will to power
> in fact, don't even try to live up to Nazi virtues
> just keep on shitposting
> blaming the jews didn't work, maybe if I blame other white people my life will actually get better?

op: time to Zylkon B yourself

Because this shit is hard nigga what the fuck.

Its only 71 years after the last attempt that tainted the word nationalism forever. Also some of these movements are hardcore attempts at escaping modernity, I think this is why they end up so violent but ultimately fail. The next step is really a measured humanistic look at nationalism without the LARPing reaction.

>“The State was the superstructural authority of capitalist repression. This is why Marx denounces it. But today, with globalisation, the inversion is total. Whereas the state-nation could be the means of oppression of a class by another, it becomes the means of resisting globalisation. It is a dialectical process."
The stage is set for a fight once again.

What? Nigga I hate stormfag assholes. I just want an honest answer:

Why the fuck if white people are "so great", have white nationalists never achieved shit?

Britain declared war on Germany for its Jewish master.

Now jews rule the world undisputably and your daughter will marry a chink.

> be OP
> get btfo
> repost original question with more swearing hoping for a different answer

Great white people are too busy being great to be nationalist.

Same problem with Mensa: smart failures join to feel smart.

White Nationalism: good-genetics failures join to feel good.

It's not the Nationalists' fault, OP. It's yours.

And what Jews was that? Churchill?

And Stalin was the one who won the war, and he hated Jews.

>Britain declared war on Germany for its Jewish master.
You do realize that literaly everybody told the jews to fuck off when they wanted to leave germany because of the opressive nazi regime?
People literally gave no fucks about jews getting fucked, both in Europe and America.
Stralians said 'we have no racial problem and don't intend on importing one.'
The idea that jews were masters of their own destiny or had sway over the british empire at that point is beyond laughable.

I could give a fuck about "muh heritage" or "muh white race." I make my money and STFU and live a happy life without giving a fuck. I just like triggering weak minded stormfags from time to time.

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>baby's first trip away from reddit

Still ain't answering the question, stormie

not an arguement

>white people haven't achieved anything
wew lad r u srs OP

>You do realize that literaly everybody told the jews to fuck off when they wanted to leave germany because of the opressive nazi regime?

this is true. even canada turned away jewish refugees.

to answer the OP. white people are too gullible. and are now too altruistic. too trusting of the law. Way to trusting of other people. They think that just because they are altruistic that other people would be too if only they are treated nicely.

Thats why when a group of black people in africa conquer and enslave another tribe, then sell them to arabs/jews who then sell them to a bunch of rich 1%ers in america who then get btfo by peasant white people who end slavery, you will get some jew giving speeches blaming white people for slavery, and white people still do not kick out the filthy rotten lying jew because it "has rights" etc.

Nationalism ended after ww2 smart guy

It has all been a globalist charade ever since

Now take that information and ask yourself your dumb ass question again.

shit thread with shit bait.

almost 100% of human advancement is thanks to whitey you faggot

How can Sup Forums ever recover?

So then, by your own admission, white people are inferior? Or is being gullible not a trait of inferiority somehow?

Fuck. This story is not only dumb as hell, but full of plot holes.

OP, did you plan for this to happen? It ended on a cliff hanger, urging me to click your thread. Seeing

>Jack
and
>Shit

was just perfect. I thought you were actually going to write something positive.

And am I doubting that? No. I am not bashing "white people" I am bashing white NATIONALISM.

So answer: WTF has the movement of "mighty Aryans" ever fucking achieved? White Nationalism is, by its nature, a collection of "red pilled whites" and is "pure white," so it should be ruling the world right now...meanwhile, it can't even get out of its mother's basement.

So what gives?

When you get sick with the flu, does it mean that the influenza virus is the master organism?

Either you just don't get what it means to develop and cherish a racial identity or you're just another troll.

Churchill was ETERNAL ANGLO scum.

The jews paid off his alcohol and gambling debts and he started beating the war drum in his newspaper column like the good goy he was.

Pic realted

not nationalists

sure inferior but built he society you now enjoy.
inferior but now harbor countless parasites who rely on their society they created.

You remind me of this guy i knew who thought he was a smart guy. He was bragging about how he could get free roam and board at a halfway house for a few months at a time if he pretended he was trying to escape a broken home.
He was superior to the "inferior" people working at the charity according to your world view, because he was tricking them. but i think it is pathetic.

>arguement

not a word

KEK

I wish I could say I meant that to happen but I will be something a stormfag never is: honest.

Just chance that that happened, but it is awesome. Must have triggered a bunch of stormbitches to see the question and not have an answer

desu I started out as a racist or even a white nationalist, but when I actually read Klassen's books I changed back. He was a pretty smart dude, a little funny too, but here is the problem I saw in his Creativity Movement and in all nationalist movements

>writes book supposedly telling what whites should be
>deals mostly with what whites aren't

They talk about how other races are inferior, but Klassen himself was a Russian; Russia borders countries that by his definition are shitskin, and it harbors Muslims and other unworthy religions (not sure of his feelings on Buddhism, Shamanism, etc.)

Not saying that race is a social construct, but it's wiggly. People have been fighting over what's white for hundreds of years. Nazis thought whiteness ended at the eastern border, and Britain has fought Ireland for 800 years. And the empire they all hold up on a platform, Rome, only survived historically because they incorporated the conquered territories and made them Roman citizens, treating them as equals after they took a portion of them as slaves that could earn freedom.

>muh Roman Empire
>muh Nazi Germany
>muh white skin
>muh whites never fought before

Aryan race is Persian.
Caucasians are from Chechnya.

bait confirmed! =/

What is Manifest Destiny, all European colonialism, the Roman Empire, and Macedonia?

So this society was built by white nationalist? Really?

Look stormie, just answer the question: if white nationalism is so awesome, why hasn't it accomplished shit?

>white people are the master race

German people are the master race. You would be surprised how many storm weenies are not even that.

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>But why is it all the "great nationalist movements" of white men have achieved only two things in the last 71 years since the end of WWII:
>>Jack
>and
>>Shit

Because believe it or not, even racists are more civilized than niggers.
And guess who has degenerated the general population with multicultural ideas, even if they're not based on facts? The same people who push socialism and communism

>What is Manifest Destiny, all European colonialism, the Roman Empire, and Macedonia?

Dead, dead, mega dead and uh, dead.

And still avoiding the point: what has stormfaggery achieved? I am NOT talking about white people, but about WN stormfags. Don't hide behind ancient history to cover up the loserdom that has befallen the "mighty Aryan warriors" of today.

>Manifest Destiny
Devil's advocate here, but wouldn't Manifest Destiny and rite of conquest apply to refugees, as well?

>Nietzsche said that in a world of wolves and sheep, people always protect the sheep
>He took this as a sign that the people were weak, and should aspire to be like the wolves
>Never realized that the sheep had adapted and were surviving better than the wolves but through different means

It all boils down to what a virtuous person should be, but there's no concrete definition of that.

Now you're just moving the goalposts, you asked about nationalist movements of white men and framed it within a very small period, I just expanded your period to point out your idiocy.

No, it is a very good question nobody has ever answered: if white are so great, why is it the movement of "racially aware whites" has not achieved shit in the last 71 years? The world goes one way and stormfags just whine about how it should go the other. If you guys are indeed the "vanguard of the new dawn," when the fuck are the first rays ever gonna show themselves?

Answer the question, faggot

Tbh the only thing I can say stormfaggotry has achieved is the attempt at Rhodesia or South Africa in modern-times.

Boers and white South Africans form militias to protect their arms after non-stop raids, and the actual founder of the Northwest Front (FBI honeypot and a typical hick racist) was part of the force on the ground to prevent black nationalists from evicting white farmers from their land. Of course, he failed, but every ideology fails over time.

Why do you continue to frame it this way when people have already told you that nationalism world wide is fading? Eroded by globalism, mass culture etc. The problem is double and a small cabal of WN stormfags no matter how magical you over think the concept of "white supremacy" can change that. I refer back to my earlier comment.

No, in the OP I specifically mentioned George Lincoln Rockwell and WWII. In that time, what has the movement of "racial aware whites" done other than declare a few trailer parks off limits for any but the white race?

I am not talking about some ancient "300" or any such crap which ISN'T white nationalism. Stay on the subject:

>white nationalism
>past 71 years
>most do-nothing movement
>despite being made up of "racially aware white aryan warriors bluh bluh bluh"

What gives?

Of course I know WN stormfaggotry is useless and stormfags are nothing. I'm just trying to "blue pill" these mother fuckers and having fun fucking with their tiny little minds at the same time

Apart from being an obvious troll, OP has some decent points.

I'd say they do almost nothing because of Cointelpro programs. Back in the thirties and shit, you had senators and congressman and local officials all in the Klan. The Klan was behind border patrol movements, militias, and in general suppressing blacks just enough to intimidate the "rowdy" ones. Some would call that an accomplishment, depending on viewpoint. Point is, they pushed their agenda effectively.

Then local police departments and the Feds started to plant agents in the movement. These agents would make wild claims about other genuine members members being FBI agents, or about the leaders cooperating with the police, and the members would get paranoid and leave. I know this firsthand as a photographer; I was interviewing militia members, and one of them scoffed at me and said I must be FBI. I found out later he was affiliated with an FBI front group, and probably accusing me around other members of the militia made them uneasy. If you have dozens of people doing this over time, the movement fractures.

So, there is no organized movement anymore. It's a shadow cast by the Feds.

>and that's why stormfront WN accomplish nothing
(other than joining AZOV or Misanthropic and killing Russians but whatever)

Who is Klassen?

Your post is gay. Greg Johnson of counter currents who is a guy that has literally been at the epicenter of white nationalism for years goes even farther than you in denigrating white nationalists. Even even said that a star trek convention has a better chance of building a white ethno-state than stormfront. But this just comes back to the problem of what nationalism is the 21st century and what white identity is. He does't say that this means white people aren't as smart as they think they are or whatever like you because the problem is much complicated than that.

Ben Klassen was an interesting guy, he was smuggled out of the Soviet Union as a child and forever blamed the Jews for Communism. He started a religion called Creativity, which aimed to idolize white man's 'Creative spark,' which they said made the white race unique, where all other races only copy it or try to improve on what whites have already done. As a person, he invented the wall-mounted electric can opener and made a small fortune, and used it to make a new religion with thousands of members, and a school and armed compound in the woods of Carolina. It was up there with the early days of the Aryan Nations for a while, some actually respectable people were in it.

His books actually are very interesting. I was gifted a copy of Trials, Triumphs and Tribulations by an elderly Klansman guy (he knows I'm a liberal but I'm still cool with everyone), and it's mostly him going over how hard it was to start a new religion while avoiding cultists, find intelligent typists that weren't alcoholic felons to publish his paper Racial Loyalty, or how much he fucking hated dogs. He had a sense of humor that I really liked.

because white people put a stop to it.

:^)

Gloablism. WWII was one of the last significant struggles against globalism. It also gave Jewish interests a 'get out of jail free card'.

There has never been a united struggle against Marxism since then. Many nations have had their nationalism destroyed and their people sullied.

At most, the best we have is civic nationalism, which grows weaker. Soon nationalism will give out and we will simply be humans, simply, animals.

For a nationalist movement to grow, it must be sown in the misery and struggle of the people. That's why we're seeing it grow in Europe.

Don't make the White kid angry. Once the White lion awakens from its slumber you will be at our mercy! We will crush any resistance and expel all of you subhumans, willingly or unwillingly, from our lands. Prepare yourself nigger.

At most, the best we have is civic nationalism, which grows weaker. Soon nationalism will give out and we will simply be humans, simply, animals.

You mean we will be degraded coffee colored mongrels without an identity.

What is the most effective way to kill a tyrant?
With Poison of course.

What stronger poison is there, than DEGENERACY???

Sorry, this is Sup Forums, you want Stormfront.

>So, white people are the master race and all that shit. Whatever

Here is an idea, lets find out lets see who`s the master race, im not saying its us, im saying lets have a contest, a Race-Off

Lets put everybody from the same race together in the same area, and in one generation we see what race has advanced the most, whoever that is gets crowned the master race.