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being raped by the bear would hurt more

the nigger will just shoot the bear or smoke crack and die

I think the bear would win. Those claws man.

All it is going to take is a good swipe from the bear onto the gorilla's neck and he is going to have a massive, deep gash, almost certainly deep enough to cut the carotid.

Vote goes to grizzly.

Looks like the gorrilla can throw 4 bears at once. Or bench 4 bears at once. Idk. What exactly does 'strength' mean?
Either way, whatever the gorilla can do to 4 bears, the bear can only do to 2 gorrillas.
I don't think height really means anything considering I think they have similar reach, and if anything, as in wrestling, getting lower than your opponent is an advantage seeing as you have the lower, more stable center of gravity.
Also opposable thumbs.
Gotta give it to the nigger here

Bear no doubt.

Gorillas are that much stronger than grizzlies?
Bear would still win with all that bulk and claws though

Grizzly, 100%.

Source: am Oregonian

i think that the gorilla would win just because raw strength

and meatcucks call themselves apex predators lol...

Grizzly no questions

If we’re talking about a male of the gorilla species, the silverback, then let’s also talk about the male of the grizzlies, the grizzly boar. Not that a grizzly sow would produce a different result. But for accuracy let’s keep everything equal.

A 1,500 lb grizzly boar will beat a 500 lb silverback gorilla several times over. There are a number of reasons why the grizzly boar will murder the silverback gorilla, however I’ll concentrate on one of those reasons, superior strength.

Pound-for-pound, the silverback is 3-times stronger than the average man. In absolute terms, a 500 lb silverback is 10-times stronger than the average man.

In contrast, pound-for-pound the grizzly bear is 4-times stronger than the average man. In absolute terms, a 1,500 lb grizzly bear is 40-times stronger than the average man, and 4-times stronger than a 500 lb silverback gorilla.

A fight between a grizzly boar and silverback gorilla of respectively equal weights (ie 1,500 lbs bear vs 500 lb gorilla), would be like a fight between an adult human and an 8-yo child. The grizzly boar would ruin the silverback gorilla in a complete no-contest. Even if a grizzly bear is the same weight as a gorilla, it will still have the strength advantage.

Many people make the mistake of assuming that because brown bears have a lot of fat, it doesn’t have as much muscle, and by extension as much strength, as the leaner gorilla. This is the same mistake many people make when making muscle mass, muscle density, and strength comparisons between the strongman body-type and the bodybuilder body-type.

Gorilla. Opposable thumbs and agility. Mere humans have managed to defeat grizzlies with knives.

Not to mention the gorilla is more agile and can out manuever the bear.
I make that statement based on absolutely nothing though.

nigger will win by grappling the bear

I think I can fuck up a gorilla with my bare hands

I've practiced MMA for 7 years now, boxing in parallel for 6 years, I could. Not to count strength training at the gym for 4 years, 6 ft 1 1/2 for 189 lbs.

I have an insane speed, reflexes similar to my speed. I just have to wait for him to charge me, dodge his attacks, and throw good punches to his head. I won't stop, and at the smallest mistake he does, the gorilla is finished.

You'll always have virgins from here thinking that it's impossible. First, nothing is impossible with will, my friends, and 2) that's not with your weak ass bodies that you'll do anything. Any man with a minimum of training can beat a gorilla with a knife anyway. With bare hands, that is not necessarily more complicated, it just requires technical skills.

Kek

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fck off Chuck!

This should become a copypasta if it isn't already.

>should become

Jesus shut up you're stupid as shit

Grizzlies are predators used to killing prey and fighting other bears. The gorilla really wouldn’t know what to do and how to leverage its strength to its advantage.

NOW a TRAINED gorilla that knows how to place a grizzly in a chokehold... that might be something.

It would be more fair if the fight was between 3 gorillas vs grizzly bear. One hit from the bear would destroy the ape.

I'm sure it'd be a pretty awesome fight either way, because it's gotta be pretty close in strength, but I think the gorilla would have the advantage just because it's able to move more quickly than the bear. And it's also probably more intelligent. Idk, I'm not a zoologist, but that's the way I see it.

The Grizzly wins. Bears in general are designed by nature to tear fucking trees out of the earth and to move boulders around so they can eat grubs and whatever else. It's a favor from God that these things don't crave meat on a more regular basis. The gorilla, while intimidating, is not nearly as intimidating as the grizzly.

It's not even a close contest.

What the fuck is it going to do with its opposable thumbs that gives the gorilla an advantage here? What are you even rambling on about here? Agility? This isn't boxing for fuck's sake. These are two dumb, aggressive animals that are going to charge at each other and try to kill the other. If we're being realistic, the only thing the gorilla's agility would do for this thing is help it to run the fuck away, and even then the bear probably can hit a better top speed.

Cite examples of people killing grizzlies with knives, I'd love to hear it.

Hi, I'm uneducated can you explain the difference between your "pound for pound" and "absolute terms"? Because only lb for lb makes sense to me.

The real question is, how can we set this up irl? You know, for "science"

Dude more weight goes up more fat increases in both humans and animals. Strength levels don't go up at the same rate as weight.
300 lbs bear is has more muscle percentage than fat compared to 900lbs one.

I think the bear would win. Its skin is much much thicker and it has claws as big as knives. 20 of them.

Bear nigga

Absolute is the top strength. 10 is greater than 1.

Pound for pound is the relative strength. 100 pound guy that can lift 200 pounds is relatively stronger than a 200 pound guy that can lift 300 pounds.

I think this is disgusting, as if someone would spend the time to photoshop a black person into a forest and call him an ape.

This sort of shit is not funny and needs to stop now.

Don't thank me, I'm just doing my bit to end racism by next year.

If that gorilla is seriously four times stronger than the bear, then I'd have to put my money on the gorilla. It's a tough call though tbh.

Many people make the mistake of assuming that because brown bears have a lot of fat, it doesn’t have as much muscle, and by extension as much strength, as the leaner gorilla. This is the same mistake many people make when making muscle mass, muscle density, and strength comparisons between the strongman body-type and the bodybuilder body-type.

A (fat) 160 kg strongman looks to have less muscle mass than a threaded 100 kg bodybuilder. In reality, the strongman has a lot more muscle bulk and muscle density than the bodybuilder, and by extension, a lot more strength. This is the same with the grizzly bear. Fat like a strongman, but also carrying a huge amount of muscle mass and muscle density like a strongman, built for strength.

Bears also have a particularly thick, dense skeletal and ligament structure built for strength more than the gorilla, as well as a more strength-based muscle structure and muscle type.

The reason strongmen have far more fat than a bodybuilder, is because leanness and muscle bulk are mutually exclusive. The bodybuilder is working on aesthetics, which require him to be lean. The bodybuilder may look like he has lots of muscle mass, however he has actually given up a lot of muscle mass to be very lean.

If the strongman wants more muscle mass, he doesn’t want to be concentrating on becoming lean, as he would lose muscle mass, which is a loss of strength. The grizzly bear has a lot of fat and a lot of muscle mass both, and is even moreso built for strength than the gorilla is.

Make no mistake, despite the fat, a grizzly bear is HUGELY, MASSIVELY muscled. Huge thick dense muscles on a huge thick dense skeleton, fused by huge thick dense ligaments and sinews.

ecks dee

That gorilla is not seriously four times stronger than the bear.

Yeah that didn't seem right but I was just going by OP's stats.

Are you guys forgetting the gorilla has thumbs and can jump? It be so easy to just grab onto there head or arms of a bear and avoid the claws. The bear is restricted to attacking from the front and swiping can only reach to the side so much. A gorilla can pivot like a nigger in basketball around thay bear and ride or rape it bashing on its head

But their percentage can't grown EQUALITY with weight.

Human that has 300lbs is not 2 times stronger than 150lbs guy is the smaller guy has much higher percentage of muscle mass.

Larger Bear 900llbs will be stronger of course but his strength will not be exactly 3 times as 300lbs Bear

K,looked it up. Haven't heard of it before.

The bear can lick it's own anus dipshit

Don't come at me bro. I'll claw the shit out of you and eat your face off.

not even the same user, but you smell of a newfag. that pasta is nearly half a decade old now

dose no one remember go to the zoo on a field trip and asking ?'s one adult male silver back gorilla can rip off a man's arm with just a small jerk of his wrist and when angered the gorilla would just plummet you to death with his fist's he is nothing but raw strength and could easily kill a grizzly bear.

Are you trained in gorilla warfare though?

>comparing what a gorilla could do to a human then saying it would do the same to a fucking grizzly bear

jesus christ, you two are stupid

this

gorrila's are slow and stupid, i could defeat one with a basic kiting strategy. It wouldn't be fast, but I'd slowly chip away at it's hp until it was dead

How long do you need to be on here until you ain't a newfag? I joined around this time in 2015.

Bear, thick skin, and fat layers. He'll go for the niggers throat and it will be game over for the nig nog.

LOOK AT THESE FUCKING CLAWS

WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THUMBS

Sure, but does a gorilla know this? If you watch fights they tend to just run into their target face first.

This man is onto something

Jokes on you, I'm trying samefag
Boy I bet you feel pretty dumb right now

>dem jaws
>dem claws
>dat thick as fuck hide
>dat reach advantage
>dat weight advantage

how is this even a debate? grizzly ftw no doubt

Are you guys forgetting that niggers cab only fight bravely in packs? Bear will fucking curb stomp that jungle bunny

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Winner, big cats.

Cougars chase grizzly bears out of their caves and jaquars are known for hunting gorillas.

Grizzly in a single swipe.

Gorilla goes down like a bitch.

FLOYD MAYWEATHER would beat both Grizzly and Gorilla

HE IS TRAINED and they aren't. He has shoulder roll and and skills that those beasts don't posses.

A silverback could rip of the grizzly arms and beat him to death with them.
Gorilla hands down

The gorilla will win but not unscathed

Just go to http:/ /www.gorillavsbear . net

I listen to this guy on satellite radio sometimes. Never visited his website though.

The grizzly would win, he's the biggest predator on land and knows how to kill. The silverback is both old and a vegetarian friend of all living creatures except other sexual competitors.

I could take both of them.

Not this again

you've clearly never seen a bear in real life

what? biggest predator on land? what about tigers, gators and pissed off hippos?

grizlord ez

bear would win. how do I know? I am bear. I have won.

also, kommodo dragons effectively 1 hit kill anything, including the elephant who cannot be beaten by bear, gorilla or tiger.

Pretty sure I could fuck a gorilla up.

Saw a black bear in the distance one time. It was kinda just running around on all 4s at the time.
I don't think any of us have seen a gorilla or bear at full fight capacity irl

Tigers and gators are lightweights, and hippos are vegetarians like the silverback-puppet. But polar bears are heavier than grizzlies, I guess.

So, the grizzly can beat a gorilla, but what about a rhinoceros?

>kommodo dragons
wouldn't survive an angry grizzly.

I'm not convinced a komodo dragon could get through the elephant's hide since (as far as I know) it doesn't hunt anything with particularly tough skin. I welcome any proof otherwise, since they're awesome as heck.

i really don't think a bear has a chance in hell against a tiger. it's like a human trying to stand tall against a shrapnel grenade
>human is heavier
>human is smarter
>human has opposable thumbs
>grenade still wins

We are you fucking retard, we have invented multiple devices to kill both of these animals with ease. Fuck, we don't even have to be present to kill both of these cucks or even vegans for that matter.

Looks photoshopped, i doubt this was even taken with them in the same room. probably not even a real size comparison

bro more more people die from hippos than shark attacks. those fuckers can run up to 30 mph and bite at 1900 psi. doesn't matter if they're vegetarian, they will fuck you up nigger.

yeah, it happened on the 'Life' documentary series at some point, the komodo bites the elephants leg and then runs away. then it proceeds to follow it for close to a month, letting the bacterial infection fester, until the elephant can no longer keep up with it's herd(?) and is left behind. then it becomes KFC mega bucket for the komodos.

A snake would have been a better analogy as a snake is a smaller predator that possible could kill a person and isnt a FUCKING MAN MADE KILLING WEAPON THAT IS DESIGNED FOR KILLING HUMANS YOU FUCKING RETARD

Probably not, but I'm pretty sure a full-grown rhino is considerably larger and heavier than a grizzly bear.

marry bear, kill gorilla

It has long been pondered whether a lion or a bear would win in a fight. However, there is an answer because Californians tested it during the gold rush. They used to pit grizzlies against bulls, but the bears always won easily by using their paw as a club. Tired with the lack of suspense, they shipped in African lions to raise the stakes. The lions had a reputation for rushing fiercely into the attack and looking very promising at the outset, but in the event the grizzlies killed them as easily as they did the bulls.

The bear’s edge lies in deploying its enormously strong bone density against the thin skull of the lion (lion strength is more muscular than structural). Lions and tigers bring down their prey by applying a windpipe lock, but they never got the chance to use this technique as the bears would flatten them with a hammer blow first.

taken from the QI tv show website

actually i was trying to think of some whirling, knife-wielding, automatic, spinny dagger shit. because that's effectively all you're going to feel the moment a tiger pounces on you.

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> ' The real question is,
> .. how can we set this up irl?
> .. You know, for "science" ' ;

It's already been done - by the psychopathic entertainment industry of the first century Roman Empire.

Grizzly Bear ripped a herd of Hippopotamuses & Rhinoceroses to pieces :

Mature male Silver-Back Gorilla bludgeoned a herd of African Elephants into submission.

Decider at Colosseum :

Gorilla triumphs by two falls and a technical KO.

..... struts & prances around afterwards like a cross between :

Cassius Clay; George Foreman; Mike Tyson & a Centurion Tank.

A full-grown Rhino could not even be harmed by a Grizzly. Rhinos have picked up water buffalo on their horns and walked around with them for fun.

>they will fuck you up nigger
Yes, no doubt. But I'm no bear, so it's irrelevant.

And the user above asked for predators, hippos are none. They are strong and heavy, yes, but out of the water they are already scared off crocodiles and run away.

That's what I was thinking. A white rhino weighs something like 5000 lbs. There are smaller ones, though, but they all outweigh a grizzly bear by quite a bit. Not to mention, their hide is almost like armor. I don't think a grizzly would stand a chance against a pissed off rhinoceros.

Underated post

>I think I can fuck up a gorilla with my bare hands
>I've practiced MMA for 7 years now, boxing in parallel for 6 years, I could. Not to count strength training at the gym for 4 years, 6 ft 1 1/2 for 189 lbs.
>I have an insane speed, reflexes similar to my speed. I just have to wait for him to charge me, dodge his attacks, and throw good punches to his head. I won't stop, and at the smallest mistake he does, the gorilla is finished.
>You'll always have virgins from here thinking that it's impossible. First, nothing is impossible with will, my friends, and 2) that's not with your weak ass bodies that you'll do anything. Any man with a minimum of training can beat a gorilla with a knife anyway. With bare hands, that is not necessarily more complicated, it just requires technical skills.

Made me chuckle.