Why does white 50s music suck so fucking bad?

Why does white 50s music suck so fucking bad?

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It doesn't
Stop listening to Pat Boone

>When OP posts a pic that disproves his point

Wrong

Strawman

God, you're arguements fucking suck

Will none of you retards challenge me? Guess I win

>you are arguments
okay kid

Buddy Holly wasn't white

Probably because you're brown and have a deep resentment for white people and will then shit on anything and everything in attempt to make yourself feel better for your shortcomings. OR you're white and under 30 in America and therefore have been taught to be self-loathing from the day you were born.

>inb4 muh strawmanggg
It's likely one or the other.

Why do you think it sucked?

>leddit spacing
argument disregarded

or maybe he's just a troll fishing for attention because he gets none in real life

Bill Evans Trio, Dave Brubeck Quartet, Jim Hall

This. Just another scheme by the whiteys to bring the kangz of music down.

Wrong on both you stupid faggot. I love plenty of white music from literally every decade after the 50s. It's just the 50s where the shittiest, gayest pop music is so prominent.You sound like a fucking retard though, were you cucked by a black man, what's with your stupid fucking argument then? LOL. You sound so weak and frail I could probably fuck your wife in front of you and you wouldn't do shit you old faggot. Am I wrong?

Buddy Holly was – like – proto-Jeff Mangum, though. At least according to Pirate Scruffy.

You sound like you belong there

or maybe it's just not his cup of tea you tinfoil hat wearing faggot motherfucker

go back to your shit home board with your cancerous race war fucking bullshit

better off just fucking kill yourself

>Chuck Berry
>Little Richard
>Fats Domino
>Buddy Holly
>Jerry Lee Lewis
>The Big Bopper
>Richie Valens
>Jan and Dean

I could go on and on.............

50s music ROCKS!

Ain't no genuinely tough and confident man on the face of this earth is arguing as neurotically as you are on Sup Forums, little boy.

white music has always sucked

either serious or trolling

either way its very cancerous

The Big Bopper was a one-hit wonder with an otherwise-mediocre catalog and Jan & Dean sucked in the 50's, but the rest is solid.

white people just cant make good music accept it
>chuck berry
>little richard
>fats domino
lad did you see what this is about

Vapid, gay doo wop, weak vocals, shitty weak production and sounds of instruments, whatever melody might exist. Weak subject matter and it doesn't make me feel anything, it captures images of retards living in their comfy gay town being retarded. That said I love lots of 60s music that doesn't do this, and the rock, blues, and jazz (including Bill Evans of course, but he's not pop) made by black guys and women from this era is always fantastic to listen to.

Read my FUCKING OP
>white 50s music
Of course Berry, Domino and Richard are good, I wasn't talking about them

Evans isn't pop

Disagree brother

If I'm a little boy, then does that mean I'm arguing with a child? Get bent cunt

Didn't the fucking King himself debut in the 50's? Goddamn you guys are idiots.

>muh king
I always liked Little Richard better

'50s music was "gay" because they weren't posturing nerds.

>Evans isn't pop
Who said anything about pop?

Chuck Berry single-handedly saved popular music

Basically all music subject matter was vapid until the mid-60's. If you care that much about lyrics you had may as well listen to poetry recitations. "Weak production" is subjective; I find that nearly all modern music sounds overproduced to hell.

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You can like whoever you want better but you still gotta give the man his props. Elvis was fucking awesome and still is to this day.

Did you read the fucking OP? I said WHITE 50s music you dumb tard

because all white """music""" sucks

To be fair production in popular music didn't gain balls until Phil Spector came along

Honestly that debate has been game over since the Renaissance. White music will never be topped.

Preach it brother

There is lots of not-overproduced modern music

Okay I meant to say 50s rock and pop, and tried to exclude jazz, but I forgot, I agree whole heartedly that there are many great 50s jazz guys

Music doesn't need to be 2deep4u, sometimes they can just be about everyday life.

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Because white people have no soul.

people didnt know about psychedelics yet

I didn't say music had to be deep, but it's the particular 50s variant of being both safe and weak with no transgression or defiance that makes me not even care. But for example there's lots of white 50s rock that I would love if they gave a shit and tried singing with soul and gusto, like Little Richard, instead of trying to sound respectable for their audience

It's rhythm. White people have no rhythm.

I'll give you that this isn't bad though

You gotta understand the 50's in a historical context. First there was the Great Depression, and then WW2 right after. But the war was won, the American way of life was saved, and it was time to soak it in with convertible cars, mowing lawns, drinking milkshakes and dancing with your gal at the diner to the songs on the jukebox. And that's what the music was all about. They weren't worrying about too much in that decade.

The uptight "good old" Victorian attitude of the pre-war white culture was still there in the 50s.

Man, you're retarded. For the time, guys like Elvis and Jerry Lee Lewis WERE singing with "soul" and "gusto". Fuck, they sang with more than Fats Domino or Chuck Berry did. Rock 'n' roll musicians or either race were singing about staying out late and getting in fights, which WAS seen as transgressive and defiant.

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Elvis/Jerry, I dunno bro, I just don't see to much in them, they're alright though
>more than Fats Domino or Chuck Berry
yeah fuck off retard
>that Link Wray
Pretty good, no singing though

I guess

I love Fats Domino but he was the most uncharismatic vocalist ever.

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Ahhhhhhhh so you just like Motown.... there was a major difference in music between 50's and 60's. Even then 50's doowop was made by a lot of blacks. I guess you're just a liberal who just wants to associate anything having to do with white people as bad. Take your racist opinions to Sup Forums.

You must have never listened to Johnny Cash.

Something tells me OP isn't a fan of country music. Almost every white rock 'n' roll musician of the 50's started out singing country.

Clearly not. Most vocalized music came from hymns sung in church and became popularized over the radio. The Carter Family are exceptional in terms of classic country from the 30's and 40's.

It also played a big role in the development of rock 'n' roll. Perhaps not as major as R&B, but there's no denying a connection.

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Not an argument

Because all the good 50's bands were fronted by African Americans.

this song fucking rocks tbqh

what real mofos listened to was Burl Ives and stuff like that

why are brown people so bitter lmfao
like, who pissed in ur cornflakes

i didnt

inferiority complex, and the only way they can get over it is to try to feel superior by putting others down.

Half of country music is as you described. And most of the rock si gers that started with country were singing songs like that. Either that or the black gospel types maybe.

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>gay doo wop

what the fuck

Because they hadn't come to the point where they could openly steal from the black music scene without becoming ostraziced from the mainstream music scene. Except in jazz, of course, where it was more a matter of white musicians risking to be ostraziced from the black jazz scene for being white.

Calling 50's jazz "white music" is kind of a stretch no matter how you put it.

kino rock n roll is
>Buddy Holly
>Chuck Berry
>Eddie Cochran
>Elvis up to 50,000,000 fans
>Ricky Nelson
>Duane Eddy

Well put.

They needed some shit to be fucked up(Vietnam war) to make them passionate about something before they could make anything good.

"I rather liked the music of the '50s and think it's better than a lot of what's out now (1979). To me, one really good, heartfelt song about a guy breaking up with his girlfriend is worth more to me than twenty albums of English rock put together."

>he doesn't rate the Killer
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Dave Brubeck Quartet was just the Dave Matthews Band of the 50s-60s, that is to say safe, bland white people jazz for college fratboys.

OP, you made one fatal slip.
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You know that Gunfighter Ballads is a meme album, right?

How ignorant can you be? Have you ever even heard Strange Meadow Lark???

Are you FUCKING INSANE?

shit slaps, f4m

Refute me then, show me ONE white 50s singer with as much power soul as Little Richard
Pro-tip: you cant
>inb4 Elvis or Jerry Lee Lewis

The best rock n roll, rockabilly is raw, primitive, primal, immediate, - its literally the peak of pop music. The beatles are already decadent. Euripides compared to aeschylus

bill evans says no to op.

I'm not sure what the OP is trying to argue, but he sounds like he's underage.

does this count?

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read the thread

>Who is Santo & Johnny

That came out in 1961, so no it is not a 50s song.

a) vocal power isnt the be all and end all of music
b) your point was not that white 50s music lacked Berry's "vocal power" but that it "sucked fucking bad"
c) Elvis
d) Hank Williams
e) Buddy Holly

Not at all, what are you on about?

Boo Op. Post based white 50s stuff

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That would be Herb Alpert. He made the safest most bland jazz ever.

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Your post is bad and you should feel bad

>power soul

why skew the argument

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Shit counter. Unimpressed.

You know he was a huge nostalgiafag.

Buddy Holly is good. You just hate rockabilly music because some other subculture you identify with deemed it not cool.

The only non-jazz music from the 50s I like has this quality as the main focus. It's the most important thing

Sup Forums doesn't to listen to Country: The thread

This board is depressingly pleb.

YOU ARE ONE FUCKING SORRY ASS PLEB ASS NIGGER

>muh power soul
>muh soul power
>muh negro songs

Let's go over your pathetic argument in a form that won't go over your ant sized head

>implying Elvis, Buddy Holly, and Hank Williams (lol) are as powerful and charismatic as Richard
I expressed mentioned Berry as an example of good 50s rock, not necessarily for his singing, for singing I gave Richard as the example