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Well, Sup Forums?

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Words get around that the bartender served the men poison. The bar goes out of business and the barman is ostracized from the community. Him and his family die penniless in the gutter.

>She thinks Libertarians are against regulations
wewlad

A bar with no living customers can't remain in business because it's unprofitable

And how would regulations prevent this?

Exactly.

muh roads

Wow, what a happy ending! I sure can't wait to live in a world governed by Paul Ryans and Rand Pauls.

>libertarianism means there arent any rules of any kind ever

next you will tell me direct democracy is the only form of democracy LOLHOWMUCHOFAKEKAREYOUANYWAY FAMPAI?

Holy shit
>Ayn Rand Paul Ryan

>drinking the hydroxyl jew

>Liberals try to go to a bar
>Followers of the religion of peace rapes and kill them because alcohol is haram

That's one crap joke.

Because in this case liquor production is regulated, preventing tainted liquor from ever being bottled & sold in the first place.

Summer is coming in full force, I see. How'd school go this year, kiddo?

Karl Marx, Nicolás Maduro and Bernie Sanders walk into a bar. There are no bartenders and no alcohol because the economy has collapsed. The mob outside storms the place and hangs them.

See, two can play that game. I dislike libertarians though.

>liquor production is regulated, preventing tainted liquor from ever being bottled & sold in the first place.
People die or are sickened by tainted food and beverages constantly though, right now, in the real world where everything is regulated

The market responds. The bar goes out of business. There are no more deaths.

TO be clear, the bar wouldn't want to go out of business, and they wouldn't have served the tainted alcohol.

Anything else I can clear up?

Oh so prohibiting murder means that no one will get murdered?

>Summer is coming in full force, I see. How'd school go this year, kiddo?

Not an argument

MUH NON AGRESSION PRINCIPLE YOU FUCKING STATIST SCUM

Did anyone else notice that their names link up?

>No one ever gets poisened by refulated good ever in [[current year]]

Kill yourself.

Why are you defending a man who murdered three people through negligence?

>implying Paul Ryan is a libertarian
>implying Rand gives a fuck about state level health regulations
>implying Ayn Rand isnt fucking dead already

Liberal women are the worst

I smiled.

>implying bars open the bottle just for you when you order a drink
plenty of time to poison it or piss in it if you like m8

of course you're an american teen so you've never been to a bar yet

Wait, why Paul Ryan? Guy's not Libertarian. He's anti-abortion, voted in favor of the Patriot Act, voted against pot, and has always taken a hardline against the mojados flooding across the border.

why doe your pic only show u.s. stats? are you not aware that the worlds standard of living skyrocketed under trickle down?

>The state arrests the bartender because poisoning someone is still illegal in a libertarian regime and a functional law enforcement/court system still exists
>The families of the victims sue the bar owners civilly and they go out of business

Wow that sure was hard. Very few detractors of libertarianism actually understand how it works.

Small government =/= no government

Hell, its right in the name- libert-arian, liberty.

If you poison a man you deprive him of his liberty. The purpose of a libertarian state is first and foremost to preserve individual liberty and enforce contracts.

No waiiii, the bartender serving cheap poisonous beer earns a lot of cash doing it, buys media, assuring everyone there is no poison but rather their poor lifestyle choices that killed them off

Do not underestimate money or American ability to eat propaganda

>economic policy is one man

I guess this explains quite a bit about trumplets/convervacucks in general. I'm sure you love reality TV too.

of course they do, but organizations like the FDA arose for a reason. I'm not saying they are perfect/not overreaching in many respects, but to suggest that having no regulation would be safer just screams "I AM UNDERAGE FAGGOT WHO HAS NEVER HELD EMPLOYMENT OR LEFT MY MOM'S HOUSE"

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Hashtag naked bloody savagery. I felt it was important to visualize the savage being naked and covered in blood.

>it happens again anyway because people are savages and huge fucking morons, nothing prevents these stupid fucks from ruining society because there's no regulations in place to stop them nor enforcement to keep them from continuing

the government regulated alcohol so good that they sold poisoned batches to people and made them go blind

woo! that'll teach em

>Paul Ryan

wtf

Because liberals have no fucking clue what libertarianism is.

The bartender would be directly responsible for the death y negligence. He'd be in jail even in a libertarian society.

So is the fact that people die anyway a valid reason to rescind murder laws? Are you completely and utterly retarded?

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>Keynesianism
>Started in 1947
>Not with Hoover
>Ended
Kek
Also
>Thinking ASE is Monetarism

this is worse than muh roads

its not even difficult to form reasonable opinions against libertarians so why do they always stoop to this level

And he got rich how? By killing the people giving him income?
Retard

the invisible hand of the free market will save them

Im-fucking-plying that under communist rule there is a place for booze. That shit ain't needed to live muhnigga. 100tbhfam

>Keynesianism
That shit doesn't work. Germany had its biggest economic growth after the war when it removed most of the regulations and allowed the market to grow.

Once they introduced Keynesian economy politics in 1969 the debts started going through the roof and the economy grew slower., cause its core ideas that the state somehow needs to regulate cyclic market trends is based on Freudian hokus pokus and has no basis in reality whatsoever.

I like how anti-libertarian shills have to move the goalposts lightyears back into anarchy before they can even begin to pick apart libertarianism. That should tell you something.

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>we can't get rid of the government otherwise meanie NWO globalist corporations will run rampart with no regards for people, elections or regulation!

>of course they do, but organizations like the FDA arose for a reason. I'm not saying they are perfect/not overreaching in many respects
that is you, admnitting your argument is shit

>but to suggest that having no regulation would be safer
and thats you admitting you don't even understand your opponent.

things can be regulated without taxing everyone and having bureaucracies skim off the process

except you know, the GIANT bar that never serves poison alcohol at cheaper than the poison start up bar

>liquor production is regulated, preventing tainted liquor from ever being bottled
This is what statists actually believe

There were a bar near me that sold alcohol mixed with gasoline. No one died though.

This already happen, and this isnt a ancap society

I visited an island last year that had this exact problem. No regulations were enforced on the island so bartenders made their own shit cut with methanol. Several tourists have died at popular bars from methanol poisoning over the years and nothing has changed. The bars are still in business and popular. Tourists go there unwittingly because the deaths are largely unpublicized.

If there were no regulations I would still avoid serving tainted liquor. Would you just go on a killing spree?

No one would go to that bar because they serve shit and they would go out of business.

I dislike lolbertarians but this is pathetic bait.

'Heh, I personally wouldn't go on a killing spree, so murder laws are totally pointless! Libready!'

I'm fairly certain Paul Ryan isn't against lifting all business regulations. He's just against the US govt becoming 40% of GDP and our business environment looking like that of France

it still gets regulated by the company in order to keep their status as a reliable and safe company, otherwise they lose business

Who is going to rescind murder laws? Since when libertarianism has meant no laws?

>Are you completely and utterly retarded?

Not an argument.

>create one huge strawman
>I AM UNDERAGE FAGGOT WHO HAS NEVER HELD EMPLOYMENT OR LEFT MY MOM'S HOUSE

You should try harder.

After drunk you don't care about what the bartender serve anymore.

You would even drink parfum thinking it's vodka

lol why did you visit britain?

Lets see how this works in a true, libertarian society:

>Every motherfucker in town knows that the bar serves poison
>The families of Ayn Rand, Rand Paul, and Paul Ryan file wrongful death suits
>Bartender can't handle this amount of legal action AND bad press, and racks up a massive debt after the legal settlement
>Bartender goes completely under, family is penniless, so he must work off the debt in a debtor factory over the next 20 years (basically prison).
>Every bartender in the country gets a puckered asshole; it could happen to them!
>Bars throughout "True Libertarian America" massively raise their standards, both on suppliers and on employees
>Suppliers, who must now shoulder the burden of higher prices in the form of higher standards, invent new ways of enhancing both the efficiency of their liquor production processes and their ability to screen out contaminates; otherwise they are going out of business
>Eventually, an enterprising young chemist creates a private alcohol inspection company, to make sure that the product is uncontaminated at all levels of production
>Soon, other similar startups happen to take advantage of this new market, and the competition between them means that they are constantly trying to improve their processes, reliability and trustworthiness

Meanwhile in Statist paradise:

>The families of Ayn Rand, Rand Paul, and Paul Ryan file wrongful death suits
>Bartender can't handle this amount of legal action AND bad press, and racks up a massive debt after the legal settlement
>Bartender goes completely under, so he files bankruptcy. He loses alot of his assets and his wages are garnished, but he doesn't go to prison
>All liquor regulations are handled by the state; maybe next session of congress a liquor regulations bill could be hidden in an omnibus, but probably not
>Because the government sets standards, there is no incentive to improve until government wills the standards higher
>Nothing else happens

>the only stopping people from breaking the law is the government
>bars would knowingly sell bad alcohol to people
>>>>>>>>implying

>economic policy is one man
What? Someone gave you a response that detailed the repercussions for killing someone through negligence in an AnCap society (not Libertarian), which was exile essentially. This is somehow more cruel than locking him away in a box for the rest of his life?

>libertarian
>laws

extremely arbitrary line

Underrated bantz

Do those on the far left think there's something special about the water in the US that leads the country to be the source of virtually all technological and consumer innovation?

I don't think it can be more obvious that a business friendly environment leads to innovation. It's literally one of the clearest economic links out there.

>Everyone would be murderers, rapists and evil people if the state wasn't there

Literally the exact same thing that the average devout religious person says about his God.

NO DRUGS
NO ALCOHOL
NO TOBACCO

We told 'em, didn't we?

I don't get it.

The NAP applies. Bartender gets life in prison for murdering three people.

The only time thier was a mass poisoning from alcohol was by the goverment during prohibition


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Damn it really makes you think, looks like I'm #Artillery4Hillary now

>libertarianism means no laws

Top kek

Statists believe giving someone even a modicum of control over their life is anarchy.

the bartender gets no customers since his bar gets a bad reputation and goes out of business

Why would you go to a bar when you can make it at home with no intervention or taxation?

Wew libertarian are really retarded.
They think in libertarian society every individu will become a perfectly reasonable, educated human being who constently research self improvement.
Literaly communist tiers ideology

Libertarianism is not anarchism. I'm sorry if English isn't your first language but you should really learn the meanings of words before using them.

modicum of control

like in the current system?
your distinction between laws and "le evil regulationz" is completely arbitrary and your ideology is anti-intellectual

We tend not to like Jewish globalists and their stooges here. Relevance?

And the first victim?
And if the bar is next to a highroad, so no local reputation?

The bar closes because no one wants to drink there any more. Invisible hand of the free market wins.

>Invisible hand of the free market wins
by killing three people you nigger

this much more efficient than a law that forbids murder

There wouldn't be an alternative. Only the educated would survive.

Karl Marx, Vladimir Lenin, and Iospeh Stalin walk into a bar. The bartender serves them water because there are too many regulations, and no grain to brew alcohol from. They die fighting in a war about which of their versions of socialism is best.

People still die under regulations, but now they are less subject to competition.

>mfw this edgy 14yo fedora thread

youtube.com/watch?v=3EJ_QarIUqI

grow up & get a job

>accidentally tainted water
>murder

Pick one

>People still die under
yeah but quantifiably and substantially less you dumb nigger

Impossible.

This would be a violation of the Non-aggression pact. This violation does not do not occur in a libertarian society.

>Well, Sup Forums?
well what? A good chunk of Sup Forums myself included isn't libertarian.
I know this is giving bait thread another reply but mods and jannies seriously need to start deleting/banning these
>really makes you think (image of tweet)
>well Sup Forums (buzzfeed article)
>X BTFO (Facebook post)

yeah wow, really makes you think huh

You are the childish one

Can someone explain what exactly is non-agression principle?
It seems to be assumption that everyone will be nice to each other beacuse... reasons?

Every philosophical framework assumes rational actors. You cannot make assumptions otherwise and still have a coherent framework. Rational actors are assumed because it prevents dumb counterarguments like "well, what if somebody's just stupid and acts against their own interest for no reason?"

Your post doesn't actually refute anything in that post you quoted though. The system around the events still enforces the desired status quo. The bartender in the first scenario is still punished for his negligence and the bartender in the second scenario less so.

So edgy user, survival of the stronger.
I'm practicly sure you can't do even 25 push up.

During the french revolutionstarving peasant decapitate the most powerfull men of the world and start to kill every noble the meet in all the country, why do you think it will not happened in your situation.
Everybody have gun in your country.

It's not really edgy, I'm assuming that pepole would act in their best interests because they'd have to.

That's not what he said, Frog. A libertarian meritocratic system encourages and demands rational, self-interested actors.

How much less, and can that be weighed against the benefits that a competitive industry brings?

wtf i hate libertarians now
i am #cruzmissile