>In 2003, the Smithsonian Institution in Washington DC was about to put the newly restored Enola Gay on public display for the first time since the war. As a survivor, Keiko Ogura was invited to witness the plane's unveiling.
>It was an opportunity for reconciliation and understanding. But that is not what happened.
>"Many American people said to me, 'Congratulations, you could come here thanks to the bombing! Without the bombing you would have to do hara-kiri, you know, commit suicide.'
>"That is a very awful excuse. We do not blame the Americans, but they should not say that thanks to the bomb so many people could survive."
Probably the most terrifying thing the American public has ever been brainwashed into believing (we're talking cosmic horror levels of terrifying) is that the atomic bombings, which killed hundreds of thousands of civilians, many slowly and painfully due to radiation poisoning, "probably saved lives and are something the Japs should thank us for."
This is literally ISIS logic, the idea that you can sacrifice hundreds of thousands of women and children who had no say in the matter for a presumed "greater good."
Americans really are literally the worst people who ever lived.
The japs wouldve never surrendered untill their entire Island was occupied causing far more deaths on both side than 2 nuclear bombs.
Luis Clark
fuck off ladyboy
Connor Sanchez
do you not know what the greater good is gue'la?
Cameron Baker
We didn't drop those bombs to save their lives. That's not how we roll.
Aiden Johnson
We gave them some freedom
Just happened to be a lethal dose
Jackson Harris
Careful thailand, better not speak up unless you want some radioactive liberty dropped all over you
Dominic Morris
This.
Thailand seems to be asking for some freedom, too.
Camden Morales
Most Americans have no idea that international Jewry won WW II and that ZOG (Zionist occupation government) now controls the US Armed Forces and NATO. Jews have been behind the scenes pulling the strings for at least 100 years.
Austin Torres
Japan was trying to negotiate for peace but Merica decided against it.
Asher Ramirez
>Just happened Nah, they knew exactly what they were doing
Which Jews?
Lincoln Stewart
Why is it every time these atomic bomb threads are posted its always by a country that had absolutely fuck all nothing to contribute to the war.
If I ever see one of these threads posted by a Japanese I would at least take it seriously.
So go away ladyboy
Liam Phillips
Americans are no different to the next door sandnigger.
Robert Wilson
You saying something about your brothers Muhammad?
Jack Kelly
>Americans are Pure Evil Tell us something we don't know.
Cameron Jones
>brothers >assumes everyone is Muslim Look, Jamal, adults are talking. Shoo.
Leo Diaz
Almost all americans are brainwashed with propaganda.
Oh how they keep insisting that the states is the best country ever. The most democratic place in the world, where anyone can get rich.
Ironically enough, the american dream is more of a pipe dream than anything plausible.
Your government is corrupt and your democracy is a joke.
But keep shouting that america is no 1, because if you say it enough times, it has to be true.
>sweden is not much better, but at least we arent completely delusional when it comes to our freedom >freedom to be rapefugeed.
Mason Ward
>This is literally ISIS logic, the idea that you can sacrifice hundreds of thousands of women and children who had no say in the matter for a presumed "greater good."
It saved American lives in the prospect of avoiding a ground-invasion of Japan.
And in War all that matters are the lives of your own people.
The Japanese didn't surrender either when it came to ground battles. Objectively - far more fucking people would have died.
Benjamin Fisher
>americans >people pick one
Wyatt Cook
The Americans let the Japs know beforegand they were to be bombed and to get tge innocent cuvs out. Their envoy even witnessed a test of the abomb and brought back deets. The generals refused to let the emporer surrender nor evac the civs. Japan has America to thank for saving many more lives you dumb fuck. Go visut the memorial and educatw yourself.
>of note, P.O.Ws were also nuked but the Gubbaments wanted to hude that face that "Human shield? Dumbass this thing will remove the shield AND thise hiding behind itb Fucking surrender already!"
Xavier Lee
So very not true
Zachary White
T. 100 million dead russians
Cameron Cruz
>t. tanned german
Adam Turner
The bombings were a mere extension of the strategic bombing campaign. Instead of 1000 bombers they used 1, big deal. The firebombing of Tokyo was worse and besides the Japs deserved it. They killed 15 million chinese, let alone the torture and murder of allied prisoners.
Fuck em.
Ryder Fisher
Yeah typos like a mofo. Phone typing, whatchagunnado?
Christian Parker
Except we freed them from being imperialists scum with no rights and no human value. They were puppets for an emperor to use and now they're citizens. Asians don't grasp this concept naturally
Hudson Myers
you should be thankfull to them
If they decided to throw a pair of XL sized americans they could have sunk the island under the waves, instead they just used some big bombs killing a few thousands
Oliver Anderson
source now
Nolan Butler
You're next
Wyatt James
they were at war, what do you expect? candy give away?
Jackson Robinson
That's something a lot of Western media doesn't seem to get (or purposefully misunderstands), that most Japanese wouldn't see the point of an "apology" for dropping a bomb on them, because unlike libcucks they realise that war is war, not some silly game where you think twice about a chance to whack the enemy good and hard
Angel Reed
Pretty sure the Enola Gay was on display before 2003. I distinctly remember seeing it with my own eyes in middle school.
Josiah Allen
>waaa tose ebil nook bombs
yfw the fire bombing of jap cities killed more than either nuke only reason you fags care about the nuke is because its an "ebil nuke weapon of mass destruction"
the losing side doesn't get terms when surrendering
>On July 26, Allied leaders issued the Potsdam Declaration outlining terms of surrender for Japan. It was presented as an ultimatum and stated that without a surrender, the Allies would attack Japan, resulting in "the inevitable and complete destruction of the Japanese armed forces and just as inevitably the utter devastation of the Japanese homeland". >On July 28, Japanese papers reported that the declaration had been rejected by the Japanese government. That afternoon, Prime Minister Suzuki KantarÅ declared at a press conference that the Potsdam Declaration was no more than a rehash (yakinaoshi) of the Cairo Declaration and that the government intended to ignore it >Japan's willingness to surrender remained conditional on the preservation of the imperial institution; that Japan not be occupied; that the Japanese armed forces be disbanded voluntarily; and that war criminals be prosecuted by Japanese courts.
If you truly want to look at objectively CRUEL fucking shit. Look no further than what the Japanese did to the Chinese during WW2 in terms of biological weapon testing + experimentation.
>"Infection of venereal disease by injection was abandoned, and the researchers started forcing the prisoners into sexual acts with each other. Four or five unit members, dressed in white laboratory clothing completely cover the body with only eyes and mouth visible, handled the tests. A male and female, one infected with syphilis, would be brought together in a cell and forced into sex with each others. It was made clear that anyone resisting would be shot." >Frostbite Testing >Vivisection >Prisoners were injected with inoculations of disease, disguised as vaccinations, to study their effects. To study the effects of untreated venereal diseases, male and female prisoners were deliberately infected with syphilis and gonorrhea, then studied. Prisoners were also repeatedly subject to rape by guards.
>Prisoners had limbs amputated in order to study blood loss. Those limbs that were removed were sometimes re-attached to the opposite sides of the body. Some prisoners' limbs were frozen and amputated, while others had limbs frozen, then thawed to study the effects of the resultant untreated gangrene and rotting.
>In other tests, subjects were deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death; placed into high-pressure chambers until death; experimented upon to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival; placed into centrifuges and spun until death; injected with animal blood; exposed to lethal doses of x-rays; subjected to various chemical weapons inside gas chambers; injected with sea water; and burned or buried alive.
Leo Carter
They made some overtures, but not towards peace, they wanted some sort of half assed peace with conditions. They started the fucking war, they don't get to choose how it ends
Nathaniel Sanders
>Except we freed them from being imperialists scum with no rights and no human value >An American says this
Justin King
>raping the prisoners that you KNOW were infected with diseases, since you watched the injections that sounds pretty dumb, famalam
"I was against it on two counts. First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, and it wasn't necessary to hit them with that awful thing. Second, I hated to see our country be the first to use such a weapon." Dwight D. Eisenhower - Newsweek (11 November 1963), p. 107
Jordan Richardson
A bomb was gonna get dropped somewhere.
You give humans way too much credit if you think the whole nuclear deterrent thing could've worked if no bombs had been dropped at all. We're not very smart. We need to see the devastation for real.
Now, it probably would've better if we saved the bomb for mudslimes, but WWII-era Japan wasn't the worst target either.
Wyatt Bailey
>First, the Japanese were ready to surrender, Except they offered the surrender (Postdam) and they refused.