How/Why has the Alt-Right gotten so big recently, especially on Sup Forums?

How/Why has the Alt-Right gotten so big recently, especially on Sup Forums?

Or rather, how did you get into your conservatism Sup Forums?

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>alt-right

stop using this lefty meme

there are conservatives, and there are neocons

there is no extreme fringe group called the alt-right

Ignorance, desensitization and memes.

Sup Forums adapted itself to Trump in order to boost his campaign.

Thank you.

Hi, alt-right here,

we've gotten so big because we are masculine

there are tens of thousands of people who literally refer to themselves as altright

alt right is just a catch all for reactionary underage retards like the species you mostly find on Sup Forums or in the breitbart comments section.

they overlap pretty heavily with "white power" types and the religious right though, since both groups have inconsistent/hypocritical ideologies and deserve to be exterminated.

lastly, protip: referring to anything to dont like as "lefty" is a telltale sign you are part of one of these faggy groups.

>Sup Forums adapted itself to Trump in order to boost his campaign.

ya i was listening to trump and he was bragging about how after every debate he was #1 in the online polls.

i lol'd softly to myself when i was listening

The populist Neocons are totally different than the ideologies from say Sup Forums and My Posting Career

It's a lot more ironic, frustrated, and racially-charged. You didn't see words like normie, lefty, meme, cuckservative, or SJW in political discourse until super recently. It's definitely a whole lot different than traditional Republican, Libertarian, or just "Conservative" views.

I just want to know how it suddenly got so big.

Me personally? I just realized more and more than typical leftie arguments didn't hold up whatsoever to any scrutiny. I was a normal lib up until I was around 16 and my family are more or less entirely NDP voters from BC.

I argue sometimes with my family, but surprisingly we all agree on most issues. Recently my aunt and cousin were hospitalized after being brutally assaulted by their neighbour (with an axe) and my aunt might never fully recover (though she is OKAY, as in she can walk and talk and seems normal enough now). The guy who did it is a repeat offender and he's going to be in jail now for maximum two years. Everyone agreed that's totally ridiculous but nobody seems to notice that voting NDP every election might be part of the problem when it comes to punishing criminals.

Also my mom worked for years as a teacher on a native reserve and is pretty redpilled about the kind of shit that goes on there. She and her friends who taught on the reserve often make jokes about "FUCKING WHITE PEOPLE" because of how often that kind of stuff is thrown at them by natives. None of them think white people are the problem and I think most liberal/NDP voters do not hold those views, it's just a tiny SJW minority.

So yeh I think liberal views are usually due to good intentions combined with a fair bit of ignorance and apathy regarding learning why and how things work.

He also called out Ted Cruz's father being involved in JFK.
That was from another chan, they brought it up first.

Richard Spencer coined the term cuck, but I prefer Greg Johnson's term New Right because we are the future of the right wing. It would just be confusing to too many people to try to call ourselves conservatives because American conservatism is essentially (((Buckleyism))) which really isn't very right wing at all, but is what everyone perceives as conservative.

As a general cultural trend it's arisen as a result of two major factors:
A) The left is in power nearly everwhere and most young adults have grown up with leftists as the major political figures of their times. See Obama in the US (an 18 year old will have had the entirety of their politically-aware lifetime under the Obama administration) and Merkel in Germany. Therefore, the alt-right is the "counter-culture" of the moment, the group that is most opposed to the current status quo. Young people, particularly young men, are highly attracted to this. The alt-right by nature accentuates this because it goes much more against the grain politically than standard conservativism, it's 'edgy'.
B) In many places people have become completely fed up with the neo-con/neo-lib status quo. It has become clear to nearly everyone that the current political parties in power are owned by corporations and serve only corporate interests. This, combined with large youth unemployment and general mistreatment of young men by modern leftist culture, creates a ton of unemployed, unmarried, angry young men. This has historically been THE demographic that starts revolutions, protests, et cetera.

So basically people are fed up of getting fucked by the current system and the alt-right presents itself as different, decisive, and 'cool'.

Liberals have gone insane. I was a moderate libtard before they went off the deep end.

>Me personally? I just realized more and more than typical leftie arguments didn't hold up whatsoever to any scrutiny. I was a normal lib up until I was around 16 and my family are more or less entirely NDP voters from BC.

>Now I'm a 17 year old NEET and am well on my way to being a psuedointellectual lifer on Sup Forums

So how's your wife's son doing?

I don't know what you could be reading in my post gave you that impression. The fact that I have some conservative views? I didn't really say anything about myself amigo.

>how did you get into your conservatism Sup Forums?

I don't even know, I was as happy leftist as anyone. Then for some reason defending freedom of speech makes me a nazi now. I guess I'm just Cntrl-right.

Conservative is a trademarked term. I hope you have express written permission from Glenn Beck, Dennis prager, and mark Levin to use it.

yea but the core gop leadership aka the RNC is a bunch of rhino faggots who endorse mccains daughters faggotry and want beaners to do all the grounds keeping at the country club. they are composed of neocons

>how it suddenly

the only thing that changes in degrees is heat, until the water suddenly boils

i'm not saying their emergence is good, it's just that it and the emergence of a socialist counterpart on the left are inevitable, given the state of things

It's reactionary to the anti-masculinity movement, makes people (including me) tribal because we are targeted as a group and feel the need to retaliate.

Or it could be that now that progressiveness is becoming more mainstream being conservative is newly edgy and we aren't used to seeing conservative edginess

I'm not alt-right but I went from liberal to libertarian between two events.

This SJW protest:
youtube.com/watch?v=iARHCxAMAO0

And liberals' irrational reactions to Sandy Hook.

Who the fuck is Richard Spencer and what the fuck are you talking about?

Cuck came from raids, newfag

>they overlap pretty heavily with "white power" types and the religious right though, since both groups have inconsistent/hypocritical ideologies and deserve to be exterminated.

this is how I know you're being manipulated by the media

you're already of the mindset that anyone who holds strong conservative beliefs must be associated with redneck racists and bible thumpers

as if there's a "nice" conservative group (neocons) that are more level-headed and reasonable

it's all manipulation, the neocons are desperate to paint themselves as the smarter, moderate choice because they are losing their power and distinction from the left

Retarded Brazilian doesn't realize that story was reported on in a major US tabloid.

Because a site centered around anime was boung to become reactionary one way or another. 2ch was right-wing before most of us even heard the word conservatism.

It hasn't, it's just been picked up by media and media work like a hivemind, giving that impression.

It was reported after it was uncovered by a chan that i cannot mention in this website.

Richard Spencer, American white nationalist, coined the term alt-right with his old website, alternativeright.com.

"Richard Spencer coined the term "alt right"" and then he called you a "cuck". English is not that hard of a language to comprehend you cuck.

I suppose I should've used a comma.

Fuck you, Sam. You are a walking dose of cancer

Who /tinfoilhat/ here?
I know this guy is.

I used to be kind of a fedora tipping cynical 'le both sides are always wrong look how above it I am' faggot. As I got older and confident enough to drop that 'believing in stuff is so le cringe XD' attitude I found myself just naturally coming down on the right on most things. I was kind of excited to see this alt-right stuff come up at first but it's already been churned down into nothing but the rightwing version of tumblr by meme-loving fucks. It's just become another way to signal to people.

This.

I've always been conservatives but a lot of people here are classical liberals or even socialists who hate the Maoists sjws and their attempt at a culture revolution in the West

Neocons are left-wingers. They are the opposite of alt right.

I think people are becoming aware/tired of the excesses on the left. Dishonesty in the media, trump-bashing, white-shaming, male-blaming, and almost religious commitment to their ideas, totally unwilling to discuss, review, or analyze anything they believe in. People are voicing their discontent, but much of the left has become so extreme that it sees even centrist views as "far right."

I kept seeing Jews at the top of most industries so I googled some shit and ended up seeing an occidental observer article on Nietzsche's Antichrist. Never looked back since.

considering the alt-right meme was created by the media, it's not that far of a stretch leaf

>why is the right getting more popular when the left have been shoved down our throats our whole life, even if we never asked for it

Hmmmm, I wonder where this reaction comes from...

Being able to change continents just by taking the local train. Kek

youtube.com/watch?v=LnGcpYl8zdE

You are indescribably stupid.

Bill Kristol is a liberal?

Hello CNN

Cuck is a centuries old term limp dick
>pic related

I'm just a college sophomore, been on Sup Forums since like '09

But it's not as if moderate conservatism is growing, instead it's this strange kind of ironic and meme based reactionist thing

I spent my first few years of life until 6th grade in the ghetto in Newark, then I moved to the deep south and actually made friends with people who somehow thought like me, liked the things I liked, and wouldn't act like animals.

Its something that comes from genes I'm sure, since I didn't have a dad to teach me to be how I am, yet as soon as I met other white people I instantly fit in.

Down here, the dominant culture also overrides the base one of blacks, which is why the southern blacks are more well behaved and friendlier than the northern ones that are allowed to roam free without consequence, since northeners are pussies that wont give them the smack down if they act up.

what is alt-right

alt-right is not conservatism, it is a reactionary backlash against unchecked feminism.

>instead it's this strange kind of ironic and meme based reactionist thing
Just the age we are living in.

idk, seems like the new "thing"

neocons are literally just liberals that want military intervention and pay lipservice to the religious voting blocs

they started as a fringe from the progressive liberals from the 60s era hippie bullshit

now, they just fool everyone into thinking they're harmless old patriots

The feminism stuff is just a small section of the alt-right. I think RamZ paul describes the alt-right the best. The manosphere or whatever is called, is on the fringes of alt-right. Its not inherently political until you get into less mainstream sites of that manosphere.

Watch Ramz paul videos on youtube, I don't think there is anyone that describes the alt-right better than him.
recently he's lost subs(even my own sub) because he shifted his perspective again. But really, that just makes him the real alt-right, since he has no ideology to cling to and adjusts himself how he sees fit.

Because we have many funny memmes lol.

Because liberals are trying to fast track "progress" with fag, tranny, and nigger rights and are scaring everybody.

>Go to his blog
>"BLM is a domestic terrorist organization, funded by George Soros, that shuts down speech that they find objectionable through the use of violence"

Isn't that a bit of an overstatement? Yeah, I think BLM is a bit oppressive at times, but I'd hardly call it a "domestic terrorist organization".
I guess the inflation and over-emphasis is what confuses me the most. Like since when is people being dicks the end of the world? Why have these kinds of petty qualms been the primary concern of alt-right?

I'm just puzzled, is all

this is interesting.

I will always listen to Ben Shapiro because even though I don't agree with him on many issues, he is sincere and consistent in his beliefs. Watching these fairweather people blindly following anything that is parroted to them just to fit in to some populism as a way to make money or belong to a movement makes me very uneasy. It's the same way children act at school, wanting to buy the coolest shoes or have the latest gadget. I remember when Pokemon cards were huge in like 7th grade, and people traded their lunches for them and would obsess over getting holographic or shiny ones. I did not expect to see the same thing in the adult population, but there is an effect of extreme dumbing down that the internet has had on most people who use it.

It's like you're skimming books in the library, and you don't have time to learn anything, so you just look at 3 pictures, write down 1 quote and then pretend like your entire life philosophy can be summed up by it. Then next week you change it to something else.

People seem to no longer think about anything other than money and a sense of unearned self-worth. Maybe that was always the case, but society was structured in such a way that there was a sense of common decency and responsibility.

I don't know if it's letting women be more vocal, or if it's letting religion fall out of favour, or if its growing government or increase communication technology and lowering the barrier and credentials required to communicate.

It meant something in the early days to get on radio or television, you had to have something to say and be somewhat reflective or engaging. I see a distinct lack of critical thinking in the Western world, both towards personal and antagonistic views, it seems like intellectual empathy died and some kind of inferior emotional reactionism took root.

>both groups have inconsistent/hypocritical ideologies

Lefty projection right here.

because libshits have gotten more combative and crazy lately for some reason, which is converting more people into the mindset that opposes them. This has been labeled "alt right". This group is mostly people who don't want to call themselves conservatives because they associate it with neo-cons.

There are billions of people on earth

a terrorist group is one that uses violence and intimidation to advance a political agenda

BLM does that, so yes, it could be considered a terrorist group. just as the KKK would be called a terrorist group

Jesus Christ reading the comments section of this Ramzpaul guy after he basically advocates using ex-soldiers as muscle to protect free speech because Hitler did it and saying 'dindu' to refer to niggers and basically saying that BLM will get what's coming to them, and all the comments are just ridiculous shit from neo-nazis supporting him....


What the fuck. Neo-nazi's were a tiny presence online, mostly of dissatisfied closet homos who spent their entire lives in abject poverty and rejection, often with criminal backgrounds, prone to violence and with very little education...

Because young women are more picky these days and want a man who takes care of himself physically and is a good earner, it's created this massive backlash?

I never thought the Sup Forums NEETs would evolve into neo-nazi nationalists, but now the SS's incredible homoeroticism starts to make sense. The obsession with male perfection and physical beauty and strength, the uniforms, the leather, the eugenics.

>our side
>pure states
>payback time
>White men are being exterminated
>tribal in group preference
>When violence is necessary use violence
>I blame jesus

These beta faggots are going to destroy the free world.

>conservatism
fuck off
There is nothing to conserve left

>implying increase in nationalists is caused by women being enabled to be more selective by welfare state
>implying it's not caused by diversity from third world flooding into white countries and causing huge spikes in interracial crime and massive debt from social programs to fund them, along with jewish media humiliating and pushing the destruction of white race for years

Sup Forums is a board of peace

In the broadest sense, sure, but then I guess we'd have to start defining hockey and soccer riots as 'acts of terrorism' as well.
Terrorism is far better defined as violently defying establishment and working, largely, external to law. BLM seems to generally work within society's defined limits, trying to change the system through the constitution.

I don't really align myself with them, but it seems like a stretch to put them, Al Qaeda, and the KKK on the same level

Also, hello CNN.

Alt-right just means you're iffy about Jews and love Trump, despite what Milo will tell you. Sup Forums has always been alt right.

>gotten so big

Yeah, in a few more years, they might have the power of a Mexican municipal official!

Sam isn't funny. He had one funny bit pissing of sjws in that comedy club place. Everything else he's done is utter shit. The anime thing was a little funny I guess though.

to me BLM doesn't even seem to know what it wants though, it just seems like an 'organization' made up of opportunistic, bratty blacks that use senseless shouting and violence to get attention.. police do not disproportionately kill blacks, blacks are arrested more but it's because they commit more crimes. read/watch jared taylor's 'the color of crime' for more info. the whole movement is just hysteria and lies.

I saw a screenshot of what I thought was Sup Forums when I was browsing Sup Forums one day. I think people on there had incorrectly attributed it to Sup Forums when it was actually an Sup Forums thread.

It was the thread where a Japanese guy was getting roasted by a Korean about doing nothing but suckling American dicks all day.

So I came to check out Sup Forums and I realized this is what I was looking for the whole time I've been on Sup Forums. Relatively intellegent conversations, and dank meemees, and current events

I was always right wing, the only thing that changed is that I make my opinions known nowadays whereas I didn't in the past

The most redpilled answer I've seen in a while

It was Gloobergate for me, the perfect entry level movement for anyone who hated the lefties but didn't know what to do with it.

Moral of the story, unhappy young men make change happen

Aren't you slightly overreacting? Europe has always allowed mass migration, it just used to be eastern Europeans moving north and west.

have you personally been affected by:

>interracial crime
>massive debt from social programs (the debt is from the wars in iraq and afghanistan, and a failing social security system)
>jewish media humiliating you
>the destruction of the white race

I've never met a victim of these things. Are you or do you know of a victim? Is the average white person in a western country unsafe or at risk? Can you be specific in your examples.

I can read on the internet that the world is flat, that doesn't mean it's flat. It means the people who are trying to convince me of that have an ulterior motive, often to invoke a grand global conspiracy to hide information from the general population. In a day and age where even the most secret government information is leaked to the media and online to the people...

This is a little hard to believe. So are your (numerous and well sourced no doubt) stories of HUGE SPIKES and DESTRUCTION OF WHITE RACE.

Yeah a spike from 1 robbery in 1000 to 5 in 1000 is a huge spike, it's 400% percent increase. Does that mean everyone is getting robbed or raped or murdered? No. It means poorer immigrants are more prone to violence and require programs to educate and accommodate them into their new environment.

The people you are fighting are so militant because they belief in the goodness of human beings and want to create equal opportunities for everyone to succeed. You believe in looking out for yourself, a slightly less noble and more reactionary position. Are you really being oppressed?

>the emergence of a socialist counterpart on the left

already happened. or did you miss how general SJWism massively blew up over the past 5 years?

The stuff that gets publicized, yeah certainly. It reminds me an awful lot of the occupy movement.
It's confrontational but it lacks any kind of established process of change.
They're more about being heard than legislating.

Same, I got off the train once equality was reached

I used to be a big libtarded californian.
Then I got a job in state government, and lived and worked in Oakland for 8 years.

Nothing will make you hate the nigger more than being forced to clean up their bullshit and lazy mistakes for 8 years, and watching them be promoted while you're passed over because they're black and you're white, and no matter how much you document their insubordination, dereliction, and actual SLEEPING ON THE JOB, you will never move ahead unless you drink the kool aid and kiss the nigger ass in a nigger-run world.

yes, I have had cousin killed by niggers and there are beautiful cities in the US that you can no longer enjoy anymore because they are only 10% white and you are very likely to be mugged.
also, I feel like you're trolling when you say a 400% increase in crime isn't a cause for alarm and signals a need to address a growing problem.

Thats bullshit

T. Well kept migration records

>immigrants steal and rob
>WHITE PEOPLE MUST GIVE THEM MORE HANDOUTS!

good shitposting mate
real australian quality

also that "poor immigrants need more programs" thing... just lol. look up what a massive failure the multi billion dollar head start program has been in the US. this is just one example of many.

Which speech was this?

A rally?

Over 80 % of men do not have sex anymore, and no chance to, as well - not even in relationships, which used to be the only chance for the lower 60 %.
This frustration now - understandably - translates into fight against the fundamental contradictions of gynocentrism.

I'm sorry to hear about your cousin. was he just visiting the city as a tourist or trying to buy drugs or what is the context of him getting shot?

You need to educate them for humanitarian reasons, and to explain to them the rules of the new society. Once they are here, they need support or they won't be able to find jobs and turn to crime.

migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/briefings/long-term-international-migration-flows-and-uk

There has definitely been an increase since the EU formed, but that was it's purpose. The free movement of goods, capital and people across member states, a lot of UK immigration is from Eastern Europe, for jobs and for education.

There is no fucking way this is true. Social losers tend to have a harder time finding sex, because instead of going out into the world and meeting women, they sit alone at home and masturbate to women they could never get and complain to each other how bad their lives are. Women are attracted to a lot of different characteristics, humor, intelligence, physical appearance, social status, money, artistic ability, creativity, strength, character. This has always been the case, and no amount of gynocentrism can change it. If you believe men and women are different, then you should exploit this fact by providing women with the things they desire but lack in a female to female relationship. Young men are fickle and only want attractive women. Young women are fickle and also only want attractive men. It's called being immature...become more attractive if you want a young partner? Or look for someone more stable, experienced and mature.

being cucked this hard.
never heard of the ok cupid chart?

A lot of quality women looking for dick on okcupid yeah? My friend was ashamed to say he met his fiancee online, the penetration of online dating into average normal society is very low.

Two types of people sign for online dating- people without a social network of friends, and people who want near anonymous hook up sex.

Most women have fucked a very attractive guy. It might've been a fetish of theirs or just trying something different, a decent woman would try very hard not to get pregnant or marry that guy because it's highly likely he is an irresponsible chad who won't be a good father or even stick around.

Most men dream of fucking an attractive woman. The few who do, end up sticking to them like glue, desperate to lock them down, get them pregnant, tie them to a marriage.

This is an important distinction. Men have a higher sex drive, a higher desire for physical beauty, and poorer decision choices when it comes to starting relationships.

If you have a full time job, own your car, have money saved, are looking to buy a house, are college educated, and are not incredibly ugly or unhygienic, you will easily get laid by a woman with comparable values as you. It's called dating, and it requires you to MEET NEW PEOPLE. spending hours padding an online resume filled with lies and then comparing it to other people who did the same thing, then wondering why that didn't get you sex or a relationship.. hmm, maybe because you tried to build something on a foundation of lies and easy sex?

I like how actual conservative values are somehow 'cucked' in your mind. This is how retarded this movement is, can't wait until you eat yourselves like the left is doing.

>Sup Forums was always alt right
>Sup Forums was always right
kek

I was a militant liberal until I had to deal with niggers and socialists in real life. Now I think concentration camps might be a good idea.

>Men have a higher sex drive, a higher desire for physical beauty, and poorer decision choices when it comes to starting relationships.
All false, look at how women's masturbation habits.

OK Cupid stat is an average on society, how come even 4/10 women can get fucked easily and have access to men for relationships, but 6/10 men cannot.

> who want near anonymous hook up sex.
Yes, and men loose in this situation anytime.

The dating world is like shopping for women but they are getting paid to do so.

>If you have a full time job, own your car, have money saved, are looking to buy a house, are college educated, and are not incredibly ugly or unhygienic, you will easily get laid by a woman with comparable values as you.

EXACTLY! And the woman has to offer nothing.

I never do online dating.

You sound like a woman.

Btw traditionalism and feminism are symptoms of the same superelevation of women.
I am not conservative, I am just amoral at this point. I fuck and fuck over whoever I can. And men I know do the same. We go under if we don't.

And you said it: Women fuck way over their own standard, a guy never does.
Social, economical, symbolic and cultural capital in men have to be balanced and in total exceed a certain, now rising, level in order to compete, in order to have a good sexual market value.

Also: The last bitch I fucked was about 5/10, I am 7/10, she had sex with 65 guys, I have with 10.
And the ones before that were similar. She said she doesn't fuck as low as me when she's not drunk usually. Young women are the plague and the parasites of the earth, and the ones who truly objectify. A man will fuck almost anything, hell a friend of mine fucked a sheep recently.

>with 10
women

wow I gave you a good fundament for insult there.

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>tfw alt-left

You can't escape this ride

You have just fallen for the left right narrative that is twisted