Creates humanity

>creates humanity
>provide no evidence of his existence and creates a world with an origin story that entirely contradicts everything that can be observed in the universe
Is this a fucking joke?
People actually believe God loves them, too

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He left evidence everywhere. You're just not knowledgeable about math and astronomy.
Read a book.
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Wow, really makes you think.
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>>provide no evidence of his existence

People are inherently ignorant and selfish. All 3 abrahamic religions were created to exploit that. Google the definition of delusion. Religious people who genuinely believe in this shit, fit the description to a T

>A grown man posting on an Mongolian finger painting forum gets upset that people don't think like him and wants everyone else to know it upsets him

>trying to understand an all powerful being
It's like a ant trying to understand quantum physics

>it says so in a book so it must be true!
>I have faith!
You're retarded and religion is cancer

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You're insecure and small minded. It's okay. There are enough open minded people in the population to carry your ignorant weight. Its gross that you choose to drag children into your indoctrination though.

I have this idea that if God exists he must have created humans with the sole purpose to refute God. Because why else would he create them?

Like if you're god and create anything without conforming to any laws, you could create spiritual creatures that can do anything and know everything. But he apparently created causality and humans with the cognitive ability to understand that God can't exist. But if he does exist, then he created a massive lie because there is no causality and so he basically just tricked us all for his own joy. Religious people must believe that God is nothing more than a scientist doing an experiment. Like a sick fuck Goebells testing on humans and giving them all sorts of pain. That's basically what God would be in this scenario

God exists as just an idea, and nothing more. Godfags who claim otherwise have the burden of proof upon them. We, on the other hand, have the definition of "idea" and "delusion". Religion is a close minded system of belief. It's downright pretentious to act as if "muh faith!" is based on fact and not imagination.

Also science is not a system of belief. Science is a method of investigation, before any religious idiots try to argue about that.

It's like arguing with a brick wall senpai, except that brick wall is mentally retarded in this case.

>some books say Darwin s theories are right so they must be true !
>i believe those theories !
you reasoning is retarded and atheism is cancer

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There's evidence for evolution that we have observed. There is no evidence for God that we've observed

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'the amazing atheist'
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Go home, religion is dying in the West and nothing will stop it
Obviously you're trolling anyways so whatever

>There is no evidence for God that we've observed
kek. 'there is evidences the whole universe, the humans, animals and nature have been created by 'nothing'.

lol your question begging epithet isn't fooling anyone /r/atheism

Also stop projecting onto others

that is exactly the reason why Whites are going to disappear in a few years. Religions are the only cure to degeneracy you stupid faggot

Ah yes your all loving God that lets thousands of children starve every day and made a world with natural disasters that kill thousands. Let's not forget about the periodic mass extinction of life forms on earth too. What kind of fucked up God do you worship?

That's what revolutionary France said
Cult of reason
Cult of the supreme being

That's what revolutionary Mexico said
Calles law

That's what various communist governments said
League of the militant godless
Red guard
Juche
Khmer rouge

That's what you think
lol

Those people worship false gods. Let those 'gods' save them.

Millions of Christians have died to natural disasters over the last few thousand years you fucking idiot

Too bad then
It's still going to bottom out

And it's his will. You're foolish to question God.

>God gives you free will
>'But it was all his cosmic plan that you accidentally died'

There's no arguinf with these people OP
They choose to stay uneducated and then construct straw man arguments for the rest of their days

The meaning of life is to endure the difficulties, have faith in God.
Also, people dont starve because of God but because of humans.
he lets us do our actions so we can be judged by our actions.

This post made my day.

Nope, actually islam is growing in the west

>atheist
>being educated

They don't know any better

and people wonder why ?!
massive bullshit. In atheistic societies they re just considered as sexual objects.

Of course their is no evidence. Everything supernatural can not have any physical evidence by definition.

Every word of the bible is true, it just takes blind faith and unquestioning commitment.

Everything happens because he planned it that way though right? He planned for thousands of children to starve everyday.

How about you go back to 'developing' your communist,mental-illness loving shit-hole of a country?

Why not choose to put your blind faith in one of the other thousands of religions since we don't have evidence supporting anything? You have no way to prove your God is more real than ra the sun god

That is why I posted the pic
Because many feminist, sjw's, trannies, homosexuals and others crybully's liberals say they are atheist

shut the fuck up you primitive religous whore cunt fuck god he's a non existenct cunt fuck

Thats the faith part, retard

Observe how the atheist breaks down even further.

>Everything happens because he planned it that way though right?
it s almost right. People do their actions but it is the will of God.
> He planned for thousands of children to starve everyday.
People let other people die. We are here on earth to be tried and tested, to be judged on what we did. If he takes part of our lives, then we will all know he exists and we will all fear him. The fact is that he gave us free will : he lets us believe in him or not and to judge us in consequence. Is it that hard to understand ?

>these generations of oral and written tradition by illiterate goatfuckers are absolutely true and could in no way be false!
I'm not even bothered by people who believe in god but their reasoning is just retarded

NO U.
you re the reason the west is getting more and more fucked up.

That falls apart with omniscience. If god knows all then he knows the outcome of all actions before they are even made. God already knows who will pass and fail and had since the before he created anything. If god exists and is omniscient then he is malevolent for creating beings he knows will suffer and doing nothing to stop it. If god is not omniscient then he is not omnipotent as omnipotence allows omniscience.

wow... I'm a #CruzMissile now

>He doesn't udnerstand God and still tries to talk about God
Protip: God doesn't owe you shit.

It's very hard to understand. How can free will exist if god is all powerful. Free will would be a system outside of gods control implying god isn't all powerful and therefore could not have created the universe as there is an order greater than god which means god did not create the order of things. This paradox is resolved by assuming god doesn't exist.

Nice use of appeal to emotion fallacy

>Epicurus' thilemma
If you weren't 15, you'd know this is a fucking joke these days.

The Bible is not intended for blind faith
Read Hebrews 11
gotquestions.org/blind-faith.html

How the fuck does an omnipotent being disqualify free will? God can do anything, so this means he cannot give humans free will? Are you retarded?

Humans have no more of a capacity to know God or his will than an amoeba has of understanding Special Relativity.

KEK, god of memes, created the universe. This is true because the universe exists. If you don't believe KEK created it, you clearly believe everything was created by nothing you retard xdddd

This is a bait thread, user

>Free will

>Cosmic plan

Pick one. They are literally mutually exclusive.

Calvinists pls go

What is the system that is our free will? Does god create it then ignore it? Is he not all knowing by choice?

Refute it then.

What books are you motherfuckers talking about ?
You mean Bible ? You know that's bullshit, right ?
It features talking snakes and says that every specie was on one boat ? It also features zombie, invisible sky fairy, a Geppeto from Pinocchio (Jonah) , a bitch who got pregnant and lied about it and goat herders from Middle East believed her, one beta cuck who accepted that bitch and lots more.

You have two scenarios

God has a cosmic plan when He creates the universe, *everything* that will ever be is according to this plan. Since everything you will ever do is already known by God (he is omnipotent and omniscient), it's all set in stone from the beginning.

He knows exactly what you will do, so there's no way you could do anything else; otherwise, that would mean God is wrong and NOT all knowing. You have the illusion of free will, but on a cosmic scale, it's all been decided eons ahead of time.

How do you know what God really did? Because the bible said so? Do you have proof jews actually listened to God when they got to writing Genesis?

So either he's all knowing and all mighty, and thus no free will, or he's only reaaaally powerful and knowledgeable, but not infinitely so, and you have free will.

My stance is that the scripture says he is sovereign and the scripture says we have free will, therefore we do. I do not know how they work together just like I do not know how the Trinity works

I do not believe God's allowance of choice negates his sovereignty

> there is no Allach
> Muslim breed like crazy

> there is no G*d
> whites do not breed

yet, yet, we cannot exterminate them
that would be against the 5th commandment

our society is build on that
G*d has given Moses that commandment

deal with it!

You're confusing all knowing with all powerful. Good job m8.


It's based on the fundametally misunderstood nature of God. God is not there to micromanage his flock.

just take a look at the world that surrounds you.
If you dont think it has a creator, i dont know how i would convince you.

if God wants a human to be able to talk to animals then its will. who you are exactly ?

All powerful encompasses all knowing. It's all the same perfect entity idea. That doesn't negate the argument either.

I wish I could experience the same thing as you do. But Bible itself is not enough evidence for me. Sorry.

m8 every abrahamic religions speak about Noah.

>Can do literally anything
>Can't do a thing
This is why you look like a retard. If something is all powerful and do anything conceivable, why can't it create free will?

But how do you know Genesis happened the way it did?

Wait, you really think the great flood happened. That the two penguins swimmed all across the Antarctica to get on a boat and then made it back to Antarctica ?
And dinosaurs were obnoxious assholes who thought they were always right, and didn't survive because of their sin ?

It's almost as if they copied shit from each other because they were close geographically to each other.

I already asked this but, again, what system would govern the free will beyond the absolute control of an all powerful being? Could the god also create a god more powerful than itself?

These questions aren't why I sound retarded, they're why religious people sound might sound retarded to some people.

>These questions aren't why I sound retarded
When you have to reassure people of this, maybe it's time for some self-reflection.

The point is these questions only exist because of the phenomena of religion.

so all you've proven is that logical paradoxes exist? maybe come back when you actually have an argument against God?

You're trying, bless your heart. You're only a few centuries late to these discussions yet for some reason, using the same debunked shit from back then.

It's a subset. An independent subset.

Your free will only allows you to choose from amongst your known options.

You do not have the option of surprising God, as God knew what you would choose before you were born.

God knew your last post before He created the world. He's God, and He sees the end from before the beginning.

As God does not tell you everything (or anything) that He knows about you, and as God's knowledge and foreknowledge does not impinge upon your sovereignty, you are free to choose from among your available alternatives.

It's almost like they were writing about the same things.

>be atheist
>be good goy tool to destroy bulwark against Islam and kikes and implement Marxist ideas

>don't believe in God because there is no proof
>believe in aliens even though there is no proof

athiest mental gymnastics everyone

except all the christians i know are cucks and i keep arguing with them about islam being evil

>provide no evidence of his existence

A massive and complex universe which we have no idea how it came to be?

Writing the same bullshit story over and over again doesn't make it true.

Great for making money though, just ask Hollywood.

As we develop a deeper understanding of the universe and how it works, we find reasons for what we see in our world, then we find reasons for those reasons and so on...
>macroscopic properties
>microscopic properties
>atoms
>subatomic particles
>...
Seeing how we live in a finite world, there has to be something(s) that has no deeper reason for the way it is, it just, "is". Why? Why is it the way it is? There can be no why, just the choice of a creator.

i dont know, only gods knows. But since i consider the universe and life has one and only one creator, i trust abrahamic religions and all the books.
yes i really trust it.
I don't know anything about dinosaurs. God told us what we must know, he didnt tell us everything. There are many things he is the only one to know.

With some of them it hits home that when we are talking about God and angels, we are talking about inter-dimensional aliens, some of which parade about as extra-terrestrial aliens for their own purposes.

Any Christian should be able to point to Paul's warning about not believing any other gospel than what he delivered; even if that new and different gospel came from an angel it would be accursed.

Islam denies the main points of christianity while being a christian cult.

You saying things are not true has no effect on them whatsoever.

the existence of something is not evidence that it was created, otherwise the existence of god would be evidence god was created

"massive and complex" is completely subjective. you could multiple the number of reactions and particles in the universe by zillions upon zillions of what they already are now conceptually and it would make our universe looks tiny

You saying they are has a similar effect.

Just because we don't understand it now doesn't mean it's magic.

That's the exact same mentality that caused our ancestors to respond to a lightning storm with "SKY GOD ANGRY! SACRIFICE VIRGINS TO APPEASE SKY GOD!"

These are questions for religious study and many of them have been addressed over centuries. Consider the Catholic Catechisms for one.

Also free will isn't just a question for God, there are still arguments that threaten the idea of free will. For example if our biology decides our actions for us or if the nature of time describes all events past, present , and future and implies our actions are already decidsd

People actually believe we went to the moon and left this world too.

Funny shit ain't it

Indeed.

And yet, I do not say things are true because I say they are true; I say there exists objective truth, and that objective truth can be known, and is known by God who reveals it to whomever pays attention.

Oh right. Well, if you have no points to make yourself I guess that's that.

Not making sense is good enough argument against god for me, especially since arguments are essentially all god exists as. But that's me so no offense.