How old were you when you realized that getting married is incredibly stupid?

How old were you when you realized that getting married is incredibly stupid?

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I always knew.

Have you tried getting laid?

Earlier this year, so 21.

>prostitutes are difficult to find
>men are worthless until a female vouches for him

Marriage may be stupid, but building a family with the woman you love is something important. Unless you're a selfish faggot and don't want to have kids and educate them so they can have wonderful lifes.

what is MGTOW stand for

lmao our sole purpose is to reproduce, so in a sense if you can't do that one job right then yeah

You don't get to determine my purpose.

Why do men have to have a purpose?
Are you suggesting that men who aren't useful are worthless?

Because if men wouldn't follow their purpose, you wouldn't be here to write this. I think you faggots forget that you're here because your parents had sex.

>Because if men wouldn't follow their purpose, you wouldn't be here to write this.

This doesn't make any sense. By your analogy, my father followed his "purpose", resulting in my existence. After doing that, I exist. So me not following my "purpose" would have no impact upon my existence. I'm a product of my father following his "purpose".

Are you fucking retarded?

Not him but for some reason I feel like having kids and raising them right would be the ultimate satisfaction. It kinda feels like it's a natural instinct. Too bad I'll never have kids let alone be a good father.

you can get laid without marrying someone

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about 8 years after I got married.. the first time. Kind of a slow learner

>lmao our sole purpose is to reproduce, so in a sense if you can't do that one job right then yeah

Over the entire course of human history only about 20% of men and 60% of women have ever reproduced.

The relatively recent trend towards monogamy enforced through Christianity has changed that balance so that most (but not all) have had the opportunity to reproduce.

This has produced a more balanced and civilised society (since men aren't killing each other over access to pussy), but since the "free love" movement of the 1960's this has gradually been thrown into reverse and we seem to be moving back to a society where only the top 20% of males will be getting sex, with the vast majority getting nothing more than porn and masturbation.

Will this lead to a reversal of civilisation where we end up killing each other for access to pussy again?

I don't know.

Getting married to a woman is gay.
Real men form civil partnerships with other real men. For tax purposes. Nohomo.

Nobody chooses to be born. Forcing a person into existence and burdening them with the drudgery of living is cruel.

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Stupid homo. MGTOW don't pay taxes.

Underrated post. This is a desire every mentally fit person should have.

this

Life is cruel, get on the train buddy.

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>How old were you when you realized that getting married is incredibly stupid?

I was 36 years old when i realized. 10 years too late.

Your purpose is to be a pathetic neckbeard faggot that does nothing but shitpost about your irrational fear of women

MGTOW are the "beautiful ones" in the human race ...We are doomed

It's not like most of these virgins had a real chance of getting married.

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Typical strawman argument. It's cliche at this point.

It's not like getting married is hard. Make enough money to be a desirable partner and you're done. If you're an interesting or ugly fuck you just need more money.

The hard shit is getting into it with someone you really love and then mantaining a healthy marriage while you're at it.

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the two best examples of men going their own way from films:

1: escape from new york. the cabaret show with bearded guys in dresses dancing on stage for bearded guys in the audience.

2: Repo Man, when the punks are having a jamming party behind that store, dancing about, throwing themselves at the wall, rocking out to the music.. and you realise there aren't any girls there and they are posing for each other.

MTOW is just Americans insecure about being vegetarians having to position it as 'rebelling' against something.

men going their own way is just choosing to indefinitely live the bachelor life, you fucks

>It's not like getting married is hard. Make enough money to be a desirable partner and you're done. If you're an interesting or ugly fuck you just need more money.

You seem to have mistaken the dictionary definition for "spouse" with that of "ATM".

Fuck that noise.

Been married 12 years. Going great so far. No regrets.

>16
>11th grade English class
>Questioned about relationships in class where women had more leverage and power
>fuckin mexican classmate said not hard that hard to get gf
> thought to myself that these cunts are retarded and theres no mathematical sense to go out If I have to do all the work with little to no chance of getting anything in return
>learned of mgtow senior year
>staying away from relationships now

When I was a teen but hey, people can do as they please. If I was to meet and be with the literal women of my dreams, I will be open to it. For now, I like being single and not having to compromise.

Fuck MGTOW, bunch of spiteful crybabies like the 3rd wave feminist and SJWs

It's not like I'm wrong anyways, and trust me, I hate that stuff too.
I think that marriage done right must be one of the most satisfying experiences, but I prefer my PhD more.

3. Fight Club.

About 2 months after I got married, so 24. I'm now 29 and still married.

22, which is the year I was married

This "movement" isn't as secret as you think. This mentality exists in white men fairly prominently across the planet. It the reason for the population growth crash of white males no longer participating in developed countries.

This is why they continue to be replacedby minority populations who don't need MGTOW because they still enslave their fuckmeat females and take multiple partners. AKA their women have zero power.

Jesus Christ. I can't stop laughing.

25, the year when I got married.

>It's not like getting married is hard. Make enough money to be a desirable partner and you're done. If you're an interesting or ugly fuck you just need more money.

So some cunt can swan in an take 50% + alimony and child support while using parental alienation to get my own kids to hate me?

No. I'm not putting myself through the same bullshit as my dad went through and I am certainly not putting my kids through it.

or just dont have kids, that works too.

>It the reason for the population growth crash of white males no longer participating in developed countries.
...oh my god, you think you're Going Galt sexually.

These kind of threads and the idiots in it always makes me scoff. They point out a bad marriage and go "There! See? All you'll get out of marriage is a nasty divorce and losing all of your money! You should instead go your own way and be a REAL man! Go to concerts and save your money and fuck whores left and right!"

My parents have been married and have lived together for well over 25 years now. They got married after spending time together and realizing they enjoyed each other's company, not just for physical attraction or the promise of sex like so many bad marriages. Yes, there has been fights. Yes, there has been money problems now and then. But they got through that shit together. They supported one another in their respective hopes and dreams and comforted one another when they felt miserable. They made a family together, one that they're proud of, and now own a nice house in a nice neighborhood, loving one another every day. They're going to be together for the rest of their lives, I'm absolutely sure of it.

Meanwhile, what the fuck are you "real men" going to get? A bit of pussy every now and then? Some temporary moments of liberty in your youths? Awesome. Talk to me in 25 years, when most women prefer going for the younger, more handsome looking men, while you're living alone in your crummy place, coming home from work to absolutely no one but perhaps a pet if you're lucky. Then you'll probably look at people like my parents and whine about how they're "lucky", how they're the "fortunate ones", unlike you. Because that's what my parents hear a lot from some of our distant cousins who are approaching 40 and haven't even had a girlfriend yet, that they're "lucky".

Who's the real man in this situation? The guy who owns a house and a loving wife and has a plan for the future? Or the dumb fucking dorks who think getting married is stupid and prefer living in a "YOLO" mentality?

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19 and I came to that conclusions during my first semester of in college. More specifically during the course of the culture shock that was anthropology. The prof really challenged my beliefs. Since then a part if me has died, I want to believe in love and marriage, pretty much all the core values I use to hold. But that damn faggot forced fed me our history as humans.

tits or gtfo

Men Go Their Own Way?

Thank you so much. People don't know what real values are these days. Probaply because most of them were raised in fucked up families

ITT: Beta cuck wants to justify his inability to keep a woman.

good on ya.

MGTOW = Men Going Their Own Way

Men Going Their Own Way is a statement of self-ownership, where the modern man preserves and protects his own sovereignty above all else. It isn't a movement. It is a lifestyle. It is a total rejection of marriage. It is a commitment to remaining a single man. To never put yourself in a situation where a woman can use the state against you.

MGTOW are the Viet Cong of the gender war. The men’s rights activists don’t like us because, while we agree with them on some things, we won’t be their cannon fodder in a war we know they can’t win. Pickup artists hate us because they can’t make money off us. Feminists hate us because we won’t fight them. Nazis hate us because "white birth rates" and women hate us because we won’t give them what they want.


Most men are MGTOW and don't even realize it. It is the way of the future. 70% of all men under the age of 35 are not married.
>cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/bachelor-nation-70-men-aged-20-34-are-not-married

Why is this significant? It is significant because that means the vast majority of the men in our generation became MGTOW naturally, without having to be encouraged to do so.

In female parlance, the word commitment has come to mean "up until I'm no longer 100% satisfied with my partner", at which point a woman can generally end a marriage to her husband's detriment with very little negative consequence to herself and usually with some form of financial gain and increased agency.

It isn't that we are afraid of commitment, it's that the institution of marriage has become commitment incompatible.

If you'd like to destroy western society, sure.

Not the person you're replying to, but yes, men who aren't useful ARE worthless. It's true.

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I don't know about the marriage policies in your country, but in mine you can choose if you keep your stuff appart from "our" stuff in marriage.

This is gold.

virgin

It's all part of the new world order. The more people follow MGTOW the more the growth of population will stop

around the same time I realized before the big-bang and god are the same thing
so 7ish

This. So what is the answer? Because the male and female interplay is changed when the piece of paper is signed and the rings are on.

what really blows my mind is when you see some useless whore who has had all the privileges, support, advantages and success AND still manages to turnout like a whore who has had misfortune, poverty, addiction, etc.

In America, a marriage is a merger of all assets, including retirement funds.

It's the equivalent of a restaurant owner deciding to give a waitress half of the available stocks in his restaurant and then crossing his fingers and hoping that she doesn't wake up one day and decide to have the state force him to sell his restaurant so that she can cash out her half of the stocks.

I was about 8. I did the math and figured out that my older brother was born about 6 months after my folks married. So I asked my mom if he was premature like our other brother. She said, "No, he was born after 9 months." So, confused, I told her that I thought that you couldn't have a baby unless you were married. She laughed at my stupidity, and suddenly all of the tumblers in my brain fell into place. I had a much more complete and sympathetic view towards both of my parents and I finally understood why they despised each other so much (yet they'd never get a divorce, because my dad didn't want his kids to be raised by some other man and my mom had something to prove to her family, namely that she could succeed where 3 of her 4 siblings had failed).

I swore, at that moment, 2 things:

1) I'd never have a kid unless I could afford it or was ready

2) I'd never allow myself to get trapped in a marriage just because it's the "honorable thing to do."

Marriage can work, and it can be a positive thing, if both partners are realistic and willing to make it work. But I think that most people are simply too fucking selfish, lazy, idealistic, or stupid to create a decent marriage (I know I'm at least 3 of those things).

Fuck me that's fucking hilarious.

Yikes. In my country you can decide if you marry with or without shared goods.
Whatever's on your name prior to marriage keeps being yours after a possible divorce.
Debts during the marriage are also divided, so, if I or my wife gets in massive debt before the divorce, they keep the debts and the partner isn't forced to pay any of it

Fight club was written by a gay man. Don’t get me wrong, I love the book and the movie, it’s just an observation I made.

Like 9.

>I'm A Closet Faggot

They are also dyslexic which is why the letters are wrong

It's the whole situation of giving women the power of their lives which they didn't have back in the 1960's, as they got more power they started to focus more on the top 20% of guys only. But whether or not we move back to how it was before is up for debate, with the way the leftists are pushing their agendas these days it's pretty much fucked for us guys.

Not pertinent to the fact that ot had MGTOW.

I agree with you, user. I even respect the fact that you admit that you are incompetent because I am the very same way.

Getting married was one of the best moves I ever made.

About six months after I got married.

Oh, most definitely. I mean, homosexuality is the pinnacle of MGTOW.

Oh, so basically you're not getting married because your potential wife won't allow you to hit her and own her.
Yeah, mommy issues.

Yep, pretty much explains it.

I would assume that user meant to call himself selfish, lazy, and too idealistic. Not stupid.

In America, A wife can decide to divorce you, but before filing for divorce, take out 13 credit cards by simply filling out an application, without having to ask your permission or inform you of it, and max them out on a massive shopping spree, then file for divorce and half of that debt is yours.

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>not breeding for some meme is selfish
>le western society meme
Kill yourself, neoliberal.

I never said hitting women was acceptable, faggot. I said women had their duties and men had their duties. In modern times the roles of each gender have been so blended together society has become so screwed.

Not all states are community property.

>implying the new world order isn't dependent on a growing population to maintain its power

Dick Masterson is a national treasure.

Hahaha! You are funny, user. Either that or you need to learn more about MGTOW.

I promise you, I'm an idiot. As I said, I fit at least 3 of those things.

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I’m just a fungi. Get it? I’m a mushroom.

This is why I married someone with a degree who can't physically have children.

Yes. (1) selfish (2) Lazy (3) Too Idealistic.

That is one of the better posts written on one of these threads. By the power vested in me by the great state of Minnesota, I declare you Not Stupid.

I was about six.

That's some of the dumbest fucking fearmongering garbage I ever read

Fuck Minnesota and their family courts. I only saw my dad 1x a week and every other weekend since my mom won due to her being a woman and making less than my dad. I love them both, but it blew until I got my car at 16 and then spent more time with him than her.

Also, fuck marriage as you are praying you are not marrying an emotional terrorist who will wake up one day and blow up and cause you to give her everything and then some while she parades around saying "woe is me".

Yes, fungi = fun guy. I get it. Thanks.

Going back to MGTOW, the idea is not that men go their own way and become gay. No, the idea is that men don't need a woman to validate their lives. Fuck as many girls as you want/can but never put pussy on a pedestal.

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