How is Britain gonna survive economically when hard brexit happens?

How is Britain gonna survive economically when hard brexit happens?

You mean Britain pre-1973? I just assume the world will end

Not comparable as EU didn't exist. Now it does and all our natural trading partners are going to be separate to us.

So Britain's going down the gurgler?

Probably the same way any other country does? By making their own deals and regulations rather than letting a 3rd party entity decide their fate?

So creating free trade treaties/policies? Nothing should change. If anything, it's a better deal for Britain since they don't have to subsidize the Mediterranean countries (Spain, Greece, Italy etc)

Half the export cake is eaten by EU right now. Guess britain gonna have to bake a smaller cake and adjust their belts.

ask Portugal how they like being told how many tomatoes they can sell to the EU worked for them

fuck ue visca catalonia

By becoming a low-regulated tax haven, right on the EU's doorstep.

Multinational companies hate the red tape and protectionism of the EU. Britain is perfectly placed to undercut it, and suck up all the investment heading for the European market.

Yea, that's not gonna work. Most investments heading for the european market are interested in the single market.

>Not understanding economics
They'll be okay. EU doesn't need them and UK doesn't need the EU

I want spain to invade and destroy fckng gibraltar

go cry to belgium, faggot

Anyone else find it funny that Germany would be the super power of a unified Europe? I know that was one of Bismarck's goal and for ww1. So does this mean Germany wins ww1?

Why would we need the EU?

Europe its all but unified.

Because you enjoy affording to eat?

I like how this user thinks

>Europe its all but unified.
Economically speaking of course. Just seems ironic they fought two world wars to let this happen

Because the other option is China?

>Most investments heading for the european market are interested in the single market.
What does this even mean? Such investments, by definition, come from outside the single market and don't benefit from it.

Britain's proximity to Europe and its free-market culture will encourage corporations to base there, leading to an influx of capital and talent.

Try asking the Spaniards, Greeks, Poles and Italians ...

It isn't. Which is why everything going on right now is either bluffing, fudging or smoke and mirrors.

I'm spaniard myself.

In europe, every country hates its neighbout.
Spain hates france. Italy hates france...

Well, everyone hates france.

fifth largest economy in the world, yea no.

We could have liked France.

>everyone hates france
No argument there.

Except that the EU has specifically said that they will not allow the UK to develop a low-tax economy and get preferential access to the single market. So, if the UK does try to go Singapore-style, then the EU will put tariffs on anything they export into the single market. In other words, your comment is bullshit.

It means chinese expansion into europe. Corporations arent interested in paying tariffs. Without deals a hard brexit will drain uk. Pharma and vehicle manufacturers will leave. And you cant beat Ireland as tax haven

He means "anything but unified" not all but unified

but you do realize they were getting more benefits than they paid money into right?

>muh fifth largest economy
>muh briitsh empire

Change the fucking record, brexshitters.

im p sure im gunna be fine regardless of what happens, im not poor and the people around me are not poor.

France fuck your mom.

Wales lived of the eu, now London is gonna have to start paying for it I suppose

/thread

>but you do realize they were getting more benefits than they paid money into right?
Not when they have to prop up failing countries for their own damn stupid decisions. Now they won't have to throttle their economy because Greece wants to spend money like a pimp with a week to live

legit, we're gunna be fine, you can keep your sinbads and dindu's, our ones are already assimilated and respected/respectful.

Britain's been on the relative economic decline ever since their empire ended and then their oil resources dried up. Brexit is just a continuation of that - this time an own-goal.

It boggles my mind that people still think socalism is a viable economic strategy.
>b-b-but user it just hasn't been tried correctly
Go to Venezuela and try to paint that hellscape as a pretty picture. For that matter what about Malmo, Stockholm, or Germany, Luten? It's no surprise that importing 3rd world Muslims to pad the vote and help justify the need for excessive government has destroyed these places.
Go read up on the fall of Rome and perhaps you can see the parallels and maybe understand why Brexit was taking a step back from the edge.

Fuck me, you're stupid. Our access to the single market had an economic benefit that far outweighs the contribution we make to EU funds. To take an example, if we give 5% of our GDP to the EU, then leave, and our economy shrinks by 10%, then we are still 5% poorer than we were before, even though we're not giving the EU any money.

>our ones are already assimilated and respected/respectful

That's fair. But I do suspect they can make up that difference within the next 5-10 years and still hold more sovereign autonomy in the process

Also miluti-ethnic =/= multi-cultural. Fundamentally different cultures don't mix, they go to war and one side loses.

soz fam i dont hate anyone i live around dont get mad

they can merge, like niggers merged with the usa

>fifth largest economy

Lol, the UK lost that spot just in the aftermath of the vote, or aren't you keeping up on current events?

Cuz niggers lost the culture war and were forced to accept it.

>like niggers merged with the usa
oh boy, you guys are fucked

Sweden and Germany has better gdp growth then UK. We were talking economics here, keep your racists shit in Sup Forums

It won't /thread

So many butt hurt Europeans itt.

do you watch tv, movies or listen to music?

Suspect based on what? And sovereign autonomy over what? Trade? We basically have two options:

1) stay in the single market and the customs union, but without any say in decisions, which will be taken by EU members - so, like the situation now, but with *less* autonomy

2) Basically beg for favourable deals with other big economies, such as the US and India, but which will come with major conditions because we're so desperate, e.g. we will be forced to lower our welfare standards (for a deal with the US), or we will be forced to allow more immigration (for a deal with India) - again, *less* autonomy.

You know we have MEPs, right? We *vote* to have representatives in the EU who take decisions on our behalf.

europeans are such god damn cucks

GB will be fine. The EU will fall.

Just music.

anything to recommend?

Trump literally told May to fuck off last week and May had to shush down in shame because Brexit. Anglos aren't united you dumb fuck

>Trump literally told May to fuck off last week
>literally

HOW. And that's the real point, no Brexiter (other than Mogg's "poor man's Singapore") has yet demonstrated where these rivers of gold are going to come from. Even with a hard Brexit, goods and services still need to comply with EU legislation if we want to sell them in the EU, so all this "getting rid of red tape" bullshit is nonsense. Fox abandoned his claims that the UK would be able to negotiate better deals outside of the EU than in it within days of the referendum, now he's just trying to replicate what we already have. The US and other members of the WTO have already shown that they will block any attempt by the UK to gain an advantage even if we're stupid enough to fall back on WTO rules (which we don't yet even have schedules for). Every single claim that the UK can benefit, or even break even, economically by leaving the EU is either an outright lie or is totally unsubstantiated.

All for the "benefit" of "taking back control".

In extremo, blind Guardian, Santiano, Big bad Voodoo Daddy, Black cat zoot, scandroid, sonata arctica, Vladimir vysotsky, Jacek kaczmarski. Any specific type of music you want?

>poking at semantics
>not embarrisng yourself
pick one

Option 2 is not a bad deal at all. You're making it sound like other countries don't already do that. I doubt the EU will be as strong of a market without Britain. Britain and Germany are really the ones holding it together. The rest of Europe has to come to them now. I do think the British GDP will improve once it leaves the EU entirely. Do we happen to know the annual GDP growth percentage is right now for Britain while in the EU? That I would like to know

we will be fine user dont concern yourself with us.
wow you sound like a massive faggot

>Santiano
really? i thought it was a meme or something

something like black keys, sacri monti or truckfighters

I may sound like a faggot but at least I ain't one like you.

If Europe wants to deal with Britain it's going to have to lower the regulations for goods. They got themselves into a problem by putting high regulations on things.

Eh, its a decent background noise with pleasant rhythm.

kek ok bro have fun with that

GDP growths are easy to google

So...bye bye compulsory holidays, workers' rights, the NHS. Have you ever lived in the US? I can tell you that, if you're rich, it's great. If you're poor, it's fucking terrible. I would much rather be working class and live in any western European country than in the US. As regards to GDP growth, the UK is well below the EU as a whole, and this is almost certainly entirely due to Brexit.

>at least I ain't one like you
ooooohhhh burn, idk how you'll survive such a vicious slam user

>You're making it sound like other countries don't already do that

That's just it, they don't. APEC, Cairns, NAFTA, do any of those ring a bell? The world is divided into trading blocs, that's how collective bargaining works. At a time when everyone else is becoming more protectionist and coming together for mutual benefit, the UK is casting itself adrift. Just look how protectionist the US is now. If you thought TTIP was bad, just wait until you see the deal May is going to have to sign.

ill probably lull it away with some sweet, white music

>So...bye bye compulsory holidays, workers' rights, the NHS.
fine with me. keeps them competitive

> Have you ever lived in the US?
I'm actually American. Europe is pretty much second world. You spend and regulate too much and wonder why you have a hard problem making deals.

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>preferential access to the single market
Nobody wants or needs this. And tariffs from the EU will just be met by counter-tariffs from the rest of the world. The EU will be forced to compete or stagnate, while its brighter talent and more ambitious companies drain away to Britain. Checkmate, Juncker.

lmao, who would counter-tariff just becuase UK gets a high tariff? The world dont give a shit about the uk

Unless May literally has Jesus on the negotiating team for this wonderful deal you're proposing where other countries shit on their own deals with the EU just to benefit the UK, that ain't gonna happen is it.

This

Maybe Trump could time his uk visit for this moment, lend out his expertise

>literally
Again

Literally meant literally in that case, fat ass.

>L I T E R A L L Y

you do know it takes years to negotiate free trade agreements? and that throught the Eu britain has over eighty free trade agreements with all the major economies of the world, adn is walking away from that?

do you get all your opinions from the Daily Mail by the way?

What the fuck do you mean by deals? This bullshit American idea that because your society permits you to get exploited, sacked for no reason, and die without healthcare, somehow this means you're going to become a millionaire someday is just ludicrous. I want strong worker rights, paid holidays, and regulation so I don't get exploited. I hope you don't get sick, really I do.

Duh. The countries who benefit from the UK's tax haven status and have companies based there. They will jump at the chance of assaulting the EU regulatory system.

Not that it will be necessary anyway, because the EU exports so much to the UK. The Germans aren't going to piss in their own chips by starting a trade war. The EU is their own private mercantilist empire.

so that will give a few bankers a few billions more to play with. great. now how about everyone else, or do you think the top rate of income tax should be raised to 90% and a bank transaction tax loaded on top to pay all the unemployed a decent living wage?

>not understanding economics or international trade one little bit

wew lad you rally are ignorant on a huge scale.

Or...if the EU says they put in place tariffs against the UK, maybe, just maybe, this will encourage countries to invest directly in the EU! Haven't you figured it out yet? Economically, if it's the UK against the EU, the UK will lose. If the UK tries to undercut the EU, then the EU will make sure that they can't, at which point, all of the supposed advantages of investing in the UK disappear. The EU is 10x larger than the UK in terms of GDP. The UK will lose every time.

>This bullshit American idea that because your society permits you to get exploited, sacked for no reason, and die without healthcare, somehow this means you're going to become a millionaire someday is just ludicrous. I want strong worker rights, paid holidays, and regulation so I don't get exploited. I hope you don't get sick, really I do.
Have fun being a second rate country with that attitude. Fucking sad that you guys have a race to bottom to see who can go bankrupt first. Can I get you a fainting couch after that histrionic emotional out burst? We found the socialist, boys!

Every Brexiter is, that's the reason the vote passed. Mass ignorance, and blind faith.

You have not got it have you? all that foreign investment in the Uk was because it was a doorway into the EU - and in particular the pharma industry because the Uk had laxer laws and could then export american drugs to the Eu in a way they could not do through France or Germany. all that now goes.

Ask murica and Canada to feed and supply them, just like WWII.

As I enjoy my 10 day paid vacation over Christmas, with relatives who are only alive and not bankrupt because of socialised medicine, with my kids who got to spend 6 months with their mother because of paid maternity leave, I will drink a high quality European beer and think of you.

Except before all this the UK was doing fine and certainly not in danger of going bankrupt, was it. Oops.

So you're a leech who steals money by government force from people to live the good life? Got it. Must be nice know while other people work hard you get to live in luxury by exploiting them at the ballot box

It's hard to reply to something as far fetched from reality as this. There are no countries that benefit from another being a tax haven, only corporations.