Should he retire Sup Forums?

Should he retire Sup Forums?

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He wanted to retire since The Golden Age of Grotesque.

He should have never made music.

Why didn't he?

Middle class needed this album.

He did for a bit. His divorce inspired him to make another album.

I'm a huge fan of everything the guy does but I must say that his latest batch of interviews and most of this interviews for the last couple years have been extremely cringey and unfunny. His vocal delivery and quick wit just isn't there anymore.

this nigga looks like lady gaga

I quite enjoyed the leaked album

His voice actually sounds better as he gets older. The problem is his material isn't making the most of it.

His voice sounds shot.

nah

Manson deserves one last chance. Stipulation is Reznor has to be the one leading the production.

Listen to "This Is The New Shit" and try to imagine him singing like that now. His voice is gone.

The leaked album was utter shit.
His talent at lyricism has gone away, he has nothing anymore.
His once effective vocals are shot and in turn this makes the "Agressive" songs sound like absolute ass.
His lyricism are shit and non-sensicial, nothing clever on the new record, it is cringey where Manson tries to make himself appear as bad-ass.
His personality is gone, his interviews are awful, the one where he apparently flickered dude's genitals and also jumped up at him with a fake gun? It's not original or even funny.
And the entire "We Know Where You Fucking Live" thing he keeps repeating to everyone?
First of all, why? That's easily the worst song in this shit-fest of an album.
And no one is afraid of Manson, nobody, the fact that Manson had to get a fake gun to scare the interviewer, speaks volumes.
I don't know why he wants to make himself seem bad-ass, it's pathetic and lacks any substance.
The music video for We Know Where You Fucking Live is easily his most unnoriginal and bland music video to date, such a poor attemp to shock, the video doesn't have any gore, it just has Manson shooting at nothing and then raping a dude.
I wish the dude just grew the fuck up.

brian its time to stop.

lol cry a bit more kiddo

This is exactly how I would expect a Marilyn Manson fan to respond whom still thinks his recent output is anything close to decent.

>I wish the dude just grew the fuck up.
You have it exactly backwards.
He shouldn't have grown up.

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(07:49)

You are actually right, his younger-self is more mature and clever than whatever the fuck he became

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cringe marketing too

he's disgusting, he became a parody of himself. maybe he can return in his 60s like M Gira did. It always seems like people get completely lost in their 40s and just don't know what the fuck they're doing. Applies to like 90% of musicians

This was so wonderful
This is what I was referencing, this is fucking embarassing, I feel inner pain when I think about how "cool" Marilyn think he is being here.

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>And no one is afraid of Manson, nobody, the fact that Manson had to get a fake gun to scare the interviewer, speaks volumes
If Trent would jump out of the doors at ne, just by himself, no weaopn, nothing. I would probably fucking shit myself, t b h.

On that note

I just saw that post there, it perfectly displays what I think about what Manson became

link to that article?

You know, if Big Man With A Gun had a music video WKWYFL's music video would be perfect for it, the way it is shot and presented, it looks like a fucking satire and a joke, if Manson was still clever WKWYFL would be just that, a satire, a strong mockery of such belief.
It's from "Echoing The Sound" Marilyn Manson thread, this is one of the posts from there.

hmm... usually i’d disregard that as echoingthesound are a bunch of faggots , but that block of text was pretty spot on.

Fucking savage.

Depends where you look. NIN forums tend to be all right with some cancer there and there. Marilyn Manson forums/subreddits is where it all goes to shit though.

mOBSCENE was his last truly good song.

i used to be part of both. The nin one was at least somewhat tolerable. The same thing can’t be said for r/marilyn_manson though..Their discord channel is pure fucking cancer too.

>echoing the sound
Ha! Ninfags will deny it but the only reason Reznor's relevant is for his hollywood soundtracks. Today Nin is just as angsty and pathetic as Manson, the only thing lacking is the make-up. Watching them try to seem cool in dark leather in Twin Peaks was a sad thing to watch.

>Watching them try to seem cool in dark leather in Twin Peaks was a sad thing to watch.
Tront is cool. He was always cool.

Kek, this is outright wrong, Trent has been putting out sucesful albums where he pushed himself and tried something new. It's clear to me you haven't listened to NIN enough or gave it a proper chance, you could argue Trent is at his peak.
Yes, his music still discuss dark subject matter, but he manages to be mature while doing so, he does things tastefully and with plenty of substance.
He is on entirely different level than Manson, he has out-matched him in every level.

>I don't know what I'm talking about; the post.

He looks like this annoying af goth chick.
Yeah but giras edgy is a whole lot different than mansons. Gira is the angry, scary neighbor who never leaves his house and scares the shit out of everyone. Manson is the middle school kid who draws upside down crosses on his homework and hisses at the jocks.

>Marilyn Manson's single hasn't passed the 1m mark yet YouTube.
>Not even the music or the "track" version on YouTube
What happened.

>the level of delusion Mansonfans have to subject themselves to think Manson surpasses Reznor, and attack him as though he is this big enemy even after Reznor and Manson have made amends.

I guess everyone needs an enemy.

>Manson is the middle school kid who draws upside down crosses on his homework and hisses at the jocks
you literally just described my middle school girlfriend

>manages to be mature while doing so, he does things tastefully and with plenty of substance.
Jesus Christ. No, maybe before With Teeth, today it's just a 50 year old with a teenager voice and DELIVERY still.
>I surviiiived everything
>she's gone way woooo oh oh aaaaah

But anyway, if the sonic element was still there I suppose that could be ignored. Sadly the most interesting track out of Hesitation Marks is the Genesis P Orridge remix.

90s industrial rock will always be 90s industrial rock, with all the edginess and lack of criativity that it implies. He himself is aware of this, having moved on to soundtracks and HTDA to distance himself from his previous Hot Topic crowd.

It's desperation, Trent is getting all the praise and has genuine respect in the industry. He is consistently getting offers to make soundtracks for mature movies and has Oscar on his hands
He still makes amazing records and many fans consider his latest output to be some of his best work.
You won't see Trent fighting with Justin Bieber over internet.
She's Gone Away has amazing delivery you and his voice is deep as hell. You're a retard.
>Genesis P Orridge remix
Kek. Just all the keks.

>The old "'Everything' was awful" meme

Why do you keep at this.

>Kek. Just all the keks.
Cringe

Everything is not even a bad song, you trying to make attempts to say that NIN's work before With_Teeth is more mature is just straight-out baiting.
Funny, Manson is so awful that it cannot be argued, he is not worthy of having baits like these made about him.

trips of truth

His trips are something Manson would name his album and he'd think he would be clever about it.

Manson is just as trash my friendo, I just laugh at people who defend Reznor's vocals and songwriting. It's the exact same fanbase now 'mature and grown up'

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I'll freely admit his lyrics and vocals aren't his strong suit, but they are significantly more earnest and personal than anything Manson is doing or has ever done.

Trent's vocals have only gotten better as have his lyrics.
You can't tell me that Manson's "I write songs to fight to, to fuck to, make up your mind or I will make it up for you" compares to songs like "Right Where It Belongs" Trent's range vocally is bigger, Manson's voice is dead while Trent's voice has grown more controlled over the years.
Manson didn't grow up, he did the opposite.
And any NIN fan will admit to this though. I'd argue that they both have gotten better over the years, especially vocals, I was really impressed with how deep that voice got in Year Zero and from point on onwards

At this point it's not even NINposters making Marily Manson threads devolve into NIN-posting.
This is keks

It'shard not to when the teacher has consistently outshines the student.

What is this meme about Marilyn having great lyrics? He never had them, Antichrist Superstar is filled with immature edgy lyrics with sometimes clever symbolism, but that doesn't make up for lyric that lacks so much subtlety it literally say; "You can kill yourself now, because you're dead in my mind"

They reflected the mid nineties attitude,At some point he just failed to see what he was living couldn't last forever.

>Trent's range vocally is bigger,
Nigger i dont give a shit about his potency, it's obvious thats he's a better singer. But his voice is just as mature as Billy Corgan's or even Manson, it SOUNDS like a teenager, he cant escape from this unless he goes full instrumental

This has been happening with nearly every Manson discussion since the 90s

He was shit his entire career. His only gimmick was being edgy and he was only that to underaged white kids.

My favorites are Mechanical Animals and AS
I really digged Born Villain and thought Pale Emperor was his best in years but goddamn I couldn't stomach Heaven Upside Down
It's even worse than THEoL and I didn't think that was possible
I wanted to throw up during Blood honey

I love how Tatooed In Reverse rips off Killing Strangers, like holy shit, it's basically the same song.

>divorce

Someone willingly married him?

yep

When I first heard that song, I really thought the radio had swapped over my aux station
I thought it was on some Top 40s bullshit

That fucking song doesn't even make one lick of sense

I'M UNSTABLE, I'M NOT A SHOW HORSE, OF COURSE (???????????????????????)

>he pulled a moderately attractive girl

How'd he manage that, the madman

And I think she divorced him because HE cheated.

she does porn

Oh and holy fuck that abortion that is Say 10

The only thing I have to say positive about this abomination is "Saturnia"
When this song came on it made me realize I wish Manson would do more 70s goth rock. I thought it was a great inspiration from Bauhaus

Manson genuinelly thought that Say10 was a clever title.
That's right he thought the pun is clever and he thinks "You say god, I say ten" is clever song-writting.

Saturnalia feels like a diamond in the rough. The rest of the album is shit though.

I just can't understand how he came out with such a powerful and masterful album like Pale Emperor then shit all over the mic, recorded it and packaged it as HUD

When Pale Emperor was made it was made around the death of his mother, apparently his dad strongly encouraged him to make a good record.
Heaven Upside Down was released around his father's death, he has no real motivation anymore for it, it is actually kinda sad.

Pale Emperor is shit

Explain or you're just baiting

It is his best work since Mechanical Animals/Hollywod

Eminem happened & effortlessly usurped his edginess

Musically it sounds like electronic southern buttrock, all the songs are guitar driven, theres no variation between songs. Lyrically is common Manson garbage, couldnt stand listening to Third Day of a seven day binge, pure trash

>It's been almost two weeks
>Meanwhile, Bhad Bhabie broke 5mil in 48 hours and Lil Pump is out here breaking 50mil
Wew lad. Time to retire.

I didn't think that sounded awful

Does anybody else have a soft spot for Eat Me, Drink Me? I think the production was a serious step down from Golden Age, but some of the songs were actually pretty good.

Be nice to Brian please

This

Blood Honey and Kill4me are also pretty good.

>Manson cheated on Dita
for what purpose.

holy fuck

thank you

I just got through the leaked album. It's yet another uninspired buttrock album with far too fucking clean Hollywood production. He needs either Trent or Madonna Wayne Gacy back like Al Jourgensen needs Paul Barker.

tfw Antichrist Superstar is really a god-tier industrial metal album that deserves to be up there with Ministry, Godflesh, and NIN but this is too hot an opinion and just triggers people.

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Jesus christ, this guy mummbles through these interview, he can barely explain what his song is about.
We Know Where You Fucking Life..is about annonymity..online?..Internet?

Any of y'all have the link? I'd appreciate it my dudes

drugs were a mistake

>“Give them the money and let them make their own choice: guns or records. If [the Columbine killers] had just bought my records, they would be better off. Certain people blame me for the shootings at schools – I think my numbers are low, and hopefully they go up on this record.” It’s unclear whether he means numbers of shootings or people blaming him, but it’s provocation either way. “That’s going to be a great pull-quote for you. But, honestly, the Columbine era destroyed my entire career at the time.”

It "destroyed" at least 13 lives. I know which is the greater tragedy.

Fucking asshole.

Yeah he's a fucking asshole because people cornered him for something he had nothing to do with. People die every day and somehow the media, which has now gone full blown retard and moments like this were indicative of where it was going, spins it as "totally his fault". It's his right to give as much of a shit or as little as he wants. You're a fucking autististic faggot whose cherry picking.

Didn't the columbine shooters actually insult Marily Manson and thought he was a hack?
Sorry Marilyn, but you are retarded, you would not save these two kids with your music, that's retarded.
Goddamn, this just shows how far he has fallen, his line about listening to columbine shooters has been cited a lot.
And look at him now, he is saying controversial shit like "Ahahah hopefully they will go up on this record XD) just for article clicks, that line has nothing even to say, it's just him being a dick for the sake of attention.
I don't know much about how old interviews with Mansons went, but I don't remember him doing this pathetic shit like treating interviewers like crap, for no reason. He did make an ass out of the interviewers, but never in a way where they would degrade to them point of flickering their balls.

he should have retired and focused on acting and cinema immediately after holy wood

He is not bad with paints.

He is no longer relevant.

why does he look like he has absolutely 0 testosterone