How often does it occur that a man is slowly backing up to a police officer then suddenly whips out a pistol and starts...

How often does it occur that a man is slowly backing up to a police officer then suddenly whips out a pistol and starts shooting? I hear about this happening a lot less than I do police officers shooting people because they believe it's about to happen.

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You only need to make the mistake of being complacent once and then you dont have to worry about it (or anything else) ever again.

By that logic might as well always shoot cops first, because they do sometimes murder people and you might be next. Can't be complacent expecting them not to be murderous thugs.

>b8ing this obviously

>How often does it occur that a man is slowly backing up to a police officer then suddenly whips out a pistol and starts shooting?
This is not news worthy. People hating cops is mainstream so no one cares, but god forbid if it's the other way around.

>they do sometimes murder people

just people who do stupid shit, and are fucking asking for it

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Don't forget that the kid was crying.

A person crawling on all fours, crying, and terrified is not going to suddenly whip out a gun and firing at cops

>is not going to suddenly whip out a gun and firing at cops
Glad you can predict the future. Have you told the police that you have this superpower and that they won't have to shoot crying kids anymore?

Actually, a kid crying for his life terrified of the cops is EXACTLY who the cops need to worry about.

anyone with even the slightest knowledge of psychology can pick this little bitch apart.
girlish baby face.
expressionless.
fucking sleeves though not in metal band or biker gang.
wanna be tough guy because closet faggot.
the engraving on his ar-15 literally screams psychopath.
this little prolapse was fucking just dying to shoot someone.
he wanted to.
probably high fived his buddies and would have loved to pose for trophy photos.
power tripping little girl in a little boys body.
probably a self loather.
most definitely not the personality type that we want as a police officer in our nation.
this one would have shot a harmless old man given the opportunity to justify it in his head.
he should be lynched.

stfu!!
everyone who watched that vid could read the situation and is convinced that the dude was trying to follow orders from an autistic psychopath with poor communication skills.
the little asshole wanted to shoot someone.

>Cop responds to "person with a gun call"
>cop finds erratic acting drunk idiot
>cop issues orders to person he thinks has a gun on him
>person acting erratically reaches for his waistband
>Shoot target until it stops moving as per "deadly force" standard operating procedure
Good shoot

The end whether you like it or not

Agree. This guy wanted to shoot someone. I bet he sat on arfcom proclaiming his operator status and how his sweet AR would be filling body bags.

My problem with this scenario is there's three cops and the dude they shot has already admitted he's drunk. Secure & frisk the woman as they did, once that's done:
Body cam dude stays where is & barks orders.
Cop 2 keeps the woman in place.
Cop 3 walks over to the drunk guy & either a) frisks him or (b) handcuffs him & then frisks him.

In a situation where the cop is alone, sure have the people crawl to you one at a time.

I can only assume poor training is responsible for this.

You're not a cop so you should shut the fuck up. Look at you, giving pointers about something you know nothing of. You're the type of shitbag that ought to put in front of a firing squad

All I know is if I ever get a cop drawing on me for some reason, I’m going to lay flat and stick my arms out and not move until they come to me. Fuck trying to do their dance.

You’re not a cop either. Cops hate fags like the OP pic. They give good officers a bad name.

I am a cop, more of a cop than you'll ever be

and i am two cops

No, do the worm

>unarmed and begging for your life
>asking for it

kek

That's what men get for saying that any woman was "asking for it". God is real.

Mall security doesn’t count.

Thanksgiving

How about river dance instead. That’d make for some interesting bodycam footage.

kek

He looks pretty tough to me

This is actually a good and valid counterpoint to 's terrible argument. Kill yourself plebs.

I wonder if SNL would ever do a skit based on this. Probably too edgy for them, maybe MAD tv would have.
It would be hilarious if they took out a tv and Dance -Dance Revolution, including the floor tiles, and had them dance towards the cops

Well then blacks might as well kill every white person they see, since whites are already killing them at alarming rates. Didn't think of that, did ya, dumbass?

Don't try to speak for all cops, shithead. You don't know what it's like to be a cop or what any cop thinks.

hur dur lets shoot some more people cause I can't control my roid rage

>cop has "You're fucked" etched into the gun.
>he's totally not a psychopath guys.

I can't believe this murderer got so little national attention. This was the first cop killing video that actual made me sick to watch

I don't think even that would have worked in this case. If he laid flat and didn't respond to that asshole barking orders he would have been shot for that instead. Whatever he did he was getting shot as long as he lost the game of Simon Says he was playing which he was bound to do.

revenge killings when?

Well it makes sense. You even said so yourself, dumbfuck

But that's not true, in fact, blacks and whites usually don't intra-racial kill. Blacks kill blacks, whites kill whites. That's pretty much how it is.

We're talking statistically speaking, and statistically speaking cops ARE NOT in danger. Hell, if someone offered me a police job I'd feel safer than I do now but I'm not a raving lunatic
that's trigger happy.

only in the movies

not saying someone should do this but if some random person walks up behind another random person and just pops a couple of rounds and leaves and goes back a few states over, the likelyhood of being caught is low. the unsolved murder rate in AZ is about half.

happens plenty, but that isn't "news."

Also, a gun is not the only source of "Lethal Force."

policeman and the victim were both in the wrong here.
the victim shouldn't have been pointing the rifle out the window, he shouldn't have been drunk with a rifle in his possession in the first place, he should have followed the policeman's orders.
the policeman shouldn't have been so aggro at the guy once it became apparent he was just some drunk idiot, and there were certainly better ways of going about restraining the victim that didn't involve him moving at all.
if you disagree with me you're fucking retarded btw.

It doesn't really matter, this is why the protocol for a felony arrest when you can't just go up to them and arrest them is:
"hands on head, face away from me, back up slowly towards the sound of my voice"
Not
"cross your legs in a particular way that you have to think about and put your hands on your head while belly scooting with a mouth full of water and then baby crawl on your knees while reciting the alphabet backwards and reciting the quadratic formula"
If you don't follow protocol, and someone gets shot, especially an unarmed person, this means it is murder.
No amount of your bootlicking or feelings can change that, but he was tried in kangaroo court and acquitted after the police department had time to fire him just to save the department which probably has other wrongful death lawsuits going on for this type of shit.

Often enough that cops have been killed by people doing that shit.

when someone begs for mercy while you point your AR-15 at him

How often do officers ask someone to lift up their shirt and spin around before shooting them for assuming they have a gun while they are complying? Apparently not enough. Apparently we crawl away from doors now instead of walking backwards slowly with our arms raised.

"IF YOU REACH FOR YOUR WAIST AGAIN I WILL SHOOT YOU!"

'Nuff said.

Whos that?

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there's no way a rational person could have possibly thought he was reaching for a weapon

"my pants are falling off and I'm drunk"

"BE 100% COHERENT AND DIRECTLY, PERFECTLY ADHERE TO MY ORDERS WHICH ARE NOT REGULATION OR EVEN RECOMMENDED PRACTICE! IF YOU GET SHOT IT'S YOUR OWN FAULT."

>be me
>be told theres some psychos* with an ar15 or something out a window
>tell person not to do something several times
>check clearance of doorway and focus eye on doorway
>unauthorized movement in peripheral vision
>hostage disobeys orders and makes a mirror perfect image of reaching for a hidden pistol in pants
>try to say something but hes doing it too fast
>training takes over and brain confirms the waistband draw
>0.4 seconds pass
>whip smg from door back onto suspect pulling gun
>have about another half a second before he draws firing into my fellow squadmate
>have about 1s before he starts turning his wrist to unload arcing horizontally passing the barrel over to me
>eliminate this possible threat before that first half a second ever happens and prevent my squadmate from being killed

>if you fall on your face while raising your hands up then you fall on your fucking face
they even let him get away with dropping his arms once. what the real question is why did the woman, a species known for being uppity, manage to follow orders with no problem?

Really? People keep weapons behind them all the damn time, especially people who have had the cops called on them fro brandishing a gun.

It takes one fuckup for the cop to be the victim of a shooting, but no one cares about cops dying on the job. That's what they get paid for, after all, right?

by that logic you should kill cops when they reach behind their back TWICE after clearly telling them they'll get show if they do so

>training takes over
Clearly not very good training if you can't even remember felony arrest protocol.

White people cant be killing black people and being genocided at the same time Sup Forums. (Also thats complete bullshit the number one threat to a black mans life is another black man, youd know this if you didnt have your head so far up your ass)

*grabs behind his back twice after being told he'll get killed if he does

b-b-ut m-m-muh shorts & children!!

they told him, numerous times, to follow simple instructions. if you think it was some kind of power trip, then you're pretty retarded.

>Anonymous 12/10/17(Sun)03:33:40 No.753432561▶
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>Actually, a kid crying for his life terrified of the cops is EXACTLY who the cops need to worry about.

No, actually s/he is right and you're a tone-deaf retard.

>suspect makes a rapid movement in his belt region
>let's wait till the weapon appears and fires at least one time AND KILLS ONE OF US IN THAT PROXIMITY

there was no other option. I'm honestly surprised he wasn't shot before based on how many mistakes he made

She wasn't being given the same orders. The squad of guns weren't being pointed at her.

You're still ignoring that the order were absurd, and expecting someone intoxicated to be perfect is even more absurd.

CRAWL HERE WITH YOUR PANTS FALLING DOWN CAUSING YOU TO LOOSE BALANCE, IF YOU FALL, YOU BETTER FALL ON YOUR FACE AND IF YOU INSTINCTIVELY OUT OF PURE REACTION TRY TO CATCH YOURSELF WE WILL SHOOT YOU. ALSO IF YOU STOP CRAWLING BECAUSE YOUR PANTS ARE FALLING AND YOU ARENT ALLOWED TO CATCH YOURSELF WE WILL SHOOT YOU, ALSO KEEP YOUR LEGS CROSSED WHILE YOU DO THIS BECAUSE I ALREADY SCREAMED AT YOU ONCE WHEN YOU TRIED TO MOVE AFTER I TOLD YOU TO MOVE AND YOU UNCROSSED YOUR LEGS.

SO KEEP YOUR LEGS CROSSED WHILE CRAWLING WITH YOUR PANTS FALLING OFF STOPING YOU FROM CRAWLING AND KEEP GOING UNTIL YOU FALL BUT YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO STOP CRAWLING, OR FALL OR WE WILL SHOOT YOU."

yeah it's his fault right? Fuck you for being an idiot.

That is fucking insane

Yeah I think this is a coping strategy for a lot of people. We all want to believe that the police are good and looking out for us, and although a lot of them are, a lot of them aren't. A lot of them are kids who got bullied, weren't so smart, weren't so strong, but had a thirst for power.

Voila. A trigger happy cop.

>if you think it was some kind of power trip, then you're pretty retarded.

What did I say that indicated that I thought he was power tripping?
>enlighten me O' licker of boot

Speaking as someone who cleared hotels like this for a living...

All three cops and the corpse fucked it all up. When things are done the right way, no one gets hurt, even when both sides have weapons.

The problem here is that we've militarized the police force without giving them military training. These tryhard wannabes think that they're infallible, and that everyone they encounter is trying to kill them.

Hell, I know a cop who watches prison riot/resisting arrest/OIS videos all day long. He gets off on the idea of it. He wants to be in that situation. He wants to pull the trigger. Luckily he's just a small town deputy in a low-security county jail.

this. how many times is there an emotional suspect who decides to make rapid decisions and rapid movements.

Also no reason to shoot somebody. C'mon.

Um no? You’re a retard if you think people who apply for becoming a cop don’t realize the risks involved. If you’re too much of a fucking pussy to take even 0.01% risk with your life; you shouldn’t be a fucking cop. They can go be professional tampin testers then. Gtfo with this pussy shit you retarded faggot.

> how many mistakes he made
The only mistakes here were made by the person giving orders

>why is this so hard for people to understand

This is what you get for having the right to own guns.

>hostage disobeys orders and makes a mirror perfect image of reaching for a hidden pistol in pants

Since when is grabbing the side of your pants where you can SEE and HAVE SEEN there is no gun when your pants are falling down a "perfect image" of grabbing for a gun? You clearly have never drawn a firearm.

nothing would get him shot than reaching in his belt reagion on the side. no matter the way he was crawling

absurd or not, he should have followed them, that's how you avoid getting shot by someone with a gun pointed at you, doing what they say.
they also didn't know he was drunk, they knew that he was the lunatic pointing a gun out the hotel window, they had every reason to be be wary.
obviously an unfortunate situation considering he was innocent, but look at it from their perspective, and it becomes clear they were in the right.
pro tip, if you have a gun or something that resembles a gun, don't get drunk around it, especially in a populated area.

This. I'm armed security at a Casino hotel.

They really should have had armed security and the guard could have dealt with this way better, considering no shots were fired and they probably would have seen him come in with an airgun in the first place.
>"hey faggot no shooting birds out the window"
>k sorry

THIS
how hard is it:
1. hands up
2. turn around
3. walk back.
4. stop
5. kneel
THEN you cap him in the head that way you dont need to waste all that ammo making sure you got him...

reaching behind you is something cops are trained to shoot for, because they cannot see if he's pulling out a weapon of some kind. he fucking did the same shit earlier, and they warned him if he disobeyed he would be shot. there's nothing fucking hard about crawling slowly towards an officer. all that shit they told him to do before hand was to ensure that he didn't make sudden movements as they explained what they wanted him to do.

sorry, i figured you were one of the crybabies complaining about it being a cop power trip. turns out you're just a crybaby.

That being said, this was a huge clusterfuck from no hotel security, to media scaring everyone of guns for no reason, to panicky poorly trained police.

>SEE and HAVE SEEN t
aht the moment you HAVENT SEEN ANYTHING! THERE IS A SUSPECT WITH A GUN BUT BY THAT POINT YOU HAVENT SEEN IT.

YOU HAVE TO ASSUME THAT THAT GRABBING WAS FOR A GUN

MORAL OF THE STORY: NEVER MOVE YOUR HANDS OUT OF VISION IF POINTED A GUN ON AND BEING TOLD THAT YOU GET SHOT, NO MATTE IF YOUR ANUS ITCHES OR YOUR PANTS ARE FALLING DOWN

you have to learn proper felony arrest protocol first then you wont have these troubles

Did you see the footage? I didn't say it's impossible for a person to have a gun tucked in the back of his pants, but there's no way you could think that that guy in that situation was reaching for a weapon. He was on the ground crawling and crying. There has never been a case where someone has given up so thoroughly then suddenly produced a weapon from his shorts and tried to attack. And there never will be. If you can't tell the difference between somebody that is not complying with orders in a threatening way and a guy that is instinctively not letting his shorts fall down so that his dick doesn't flop out then I don't even know what to say to you. This was NOT a case of a guy who was refusing to get down on the ground, or getting ready to charge at the cops, or being aggressive or threatening in any way.

You can not follow orders that can not be followed.

He didn't reach behind him, he reached to his right, in plain view of the shooter and you can clearly see there is no firearm, they shot because he MIGHT MAYBE POSSIBLY reach behind them and they had COMPLETELY neglected to do even the most basic things to see if he had a weapon. Lift your shirt, turn around, walk backwards. Done.

Stop advocating that being murdered for being drunk and not 100% coherent is okay. I'm not even anti cop and I can see you're a fucking boot licker.

I bet if I woke you up at 3 am with a gun to the back of your head screaming multiple orders as loud as I could and said not to move and inch, you'd move an inch and your brains would be all over the wall. It'd be your fault by your own reasoning.

I know, that was like at least $2.50 in ammo. plus all those patches and cleaner.
Times are tough, no reason to waste all that on anything but an execution headshot.

I have seen people shoot cops while looking a lot less threatening than that. I've seen videos of cops getting shot for less than that on Sup Forums. If you've been here a while you have seen them too. If you haven't, then clearly you're either a moron, or you have an agenda.

>You can not follow orders that can not be followed.
like "crawl towards me," or "if your hands go to your waist we are going to shoot you,"?
so hard to follow

>crybaby because I'm correctly implying that he didn't follow arrest protocol

K.

Again ignoring the impossible other requirements to do this and ignoring they gave these impossible commands to someone they know is intoxicated.

Right, but the difference was

>those police were following protocol
All arguments go out the window when those held to a higher standard do not uphold it and are subsequently tried in kangaroo court/not charged.

not following those other commands isn't what got him shot, he was shot for reaching to his waist, and how do you know they knew he was intoxicated? and even if they did know, they also knew he had been pointing a rifle out of a window, you're not all of a sudden not a threat just because you're drunk.
don't get me wrong, cop was also in the wrong for the dodgy commands, and was obviously powertripping, i'm with you on that, but he was still justified in shooting the guy when he reached for his waist.

No, you haven't. Post one and I'll tell you why it's different.

Justified legally speaking of course.
Then again, he was a bad cop all around and should be ashamed of himself

It's not legally justified if you didn't follow protocol.
>don't make claims about shit you know nothing about.

Proof that being a cop is a man’s job and not for little pussy bitches. He should’ve went into the field of professional tampon tester. Can’t even take 0.01% risk on his life. He should’ve realized the risks that come with the badge. Fucking pussy.

Because he told them.
and they knew he had been pointing a rifle out the window.
I mean, he hadn't. But they KNEW.


Would It be okay if a neighbor had saw him holding a long vacuum tube and called it in as aiming a rifle out the window instead?

Arguing that the cops need to put their self preservation above everything else, including slight doubt while there is a whole squad of them in body armor is insane

that happens when you mix rational laws with feeling humans forcing it through

more autists like you needed

plz post cops getting killed

This nigga got executed in cold blood. Made him crawl to him like a dog on all fours, then executed. That's cold blood.

America police are paranoid mother fuckers with mental problems. The poor guy was trying to pull up his falling shorts out of impulse while crawling like a dog then executed. Jesus christ.

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thats not a cop getting killed. the guy obviously misses his shots and the cop comes back to spray him again.

These are the kinds of police we need.

>Arguing that the cops need to put their self preservation above everything else, including slight doubt while there is a whole squad of them in body armor is insane

no simply arguing not to put your hands out of cops vision when pointed a gun on. it's that simple