This weekend will be the Libertarian National Convention. The only reason this thread is a thing is that the libertarians have been polling very high, and may as well play a factor in this election.
The Libertarian party is polling at 10% nationally, behind Clinton and the God EmperorDue. to the Libertarian parties socially left leaning it will cost more democratic votes than Republican votes.
Yes. Many libertarians will tell you that the welfare state must be eliminated first, but all the Libertarian candidates this year want amnesty and increased immigration.
Owen Reed
>The Libertarian party stands for gay rights, legalization of drugs, open borders
K E K E K
Eli Perry
How can they have right wing economic views but be for open borders? Tf senpai
Lucas Phillips
Nice party you fucking Randlets
Eli Richardson
>gay rights >small government
pick 1
Sebastian Richardson
Not all of us are, but most of them are, unfortunately.
>Open borders Fuck off with that shit, might as well vote for Bernie, or better yet, stay home
Evan Howard
>MSM have been covering this seriously cause of Trump/Hillary
Luis Phillips
>the failed republican party
Jace Russell
Well, the mainstream choices are either retarded or incompetent in some order; at least I can agree with most of their positions
Jayden Clark
>open borders
kek, fuck off kike
Eli Sanders
Johnson is practically a Democrat in disguise, if hes the nominee I'll still be voting for Trump. Besides he will get destroyed in debates.
I would vote for Peterson. And hes got a chance of stealing both common sense dems, and conservatives. Hes also really good at debates, though hes young and possibly naive.
McAfee is a really chill guy, and would consider voting for him. Only problem is hes a bit anarchistic. Still I would take him over Johnson.
Easton Smith
We need Smart Trade
Thomas Edwards
>Johnson is practically a Democrat in disguise, So, just like all lolbertardians?
Daniel Davis
Yep. But libertardians would just let anything go, which means: stupid trade.
Oliver Bennett
This is why I keep saying someone from Sup Forums needs to take over the Libertarian Party the way Frauke Petry took over the AfD in Germany.
Drop the open borders shit, inject some nationalism and populism and then head off to the races!
Ethan Perry
>muh gays >muh diversity
Is this the fucking Progressive party? What is this horseshit?
Jayden Jackson
I KNEW HE WAS STILL ALIVE
Justin Murphy
If Johnson gets the nomination he pulls more votes from Hillary than Trump, please let it happen.
Landon White
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Mason Kelly
Most Libertarians take a hands-off approach. They don't want to legalize fag marriage and drugs, they just don't want them regulated. Basically, if it's not in the constitution then it shouldn't be regulated according to them.
Jaxson Harris
Looks like you don't know anything about economics.
Angel Reyes
>This weekend will be the Faggot National Convention. The only reason this thread is a thing is that the gays have been polling very high, and may as well play a factor in this election. >First fucking is tommorow. >Popular sex in all libertarian primaries >Johnson: 33.53% >Penison: 12.42% >Unprotected: 36.20% >At 8pm EST the faggots with hold their final debate. >The faggot party stands for gay rights, legalization of dildos, small cocks, open legs, and fucking rights. >Polls >Johnson: 61% >Penison: 17% >Syphilis: 10% >Perry: 8% >Feelman 2% >The faggot party is polling at 10% nationally, behind Clitoris and the GodCockMaditicPussyDestroyer9000. to the faggot parties socially gay leaning it will cost more dominatrix votes than Republicuck votes. >Streams of piss >ustream.tv/channel/faggot-party1 >c-span.org/video/?409916-1/faggot-party-holds-fucking-debate >youtube.com/watch?v=faggotparty
Colton Johnson
>libertarians
Gavin Morgan
Open borders are good for the economy, goy. Even better if you get replaced by millions of spics. They consume better than you do.
Economy isn't about you. It's about the corporations and banks and their shareholders.
Daniel Harris
"Hands off" indeed, all he fucking ranted about was about diversity and representation.
It's like listening to Bernie.
Jacob Clark
looks like the roads in detroit, the biggest libertarian paradise in america
Chase Walker
As much as an ardent libertarian as I am, I wouldn't vote for anyone other than Trump this year. I would only vote in non-presidential for a governor. There is too much at stake here.
It's a two party system. I really want anyone considering wasting their vote to reconsider. We must stop Hillary at all costs. It won't matter if the libertarian party gets thirty million votes; they won't matter in the electoral college.
MAGA
Jordan Rogers
Your daily reminder that delegate participation has been dropping every presidential year. Notice how many delegates there are in 2016 compared to 2012, 2008, 2004 and 2000.
Also understand that unlike Republican and Democratic primaries, Libertarians across the country do not have a vote to influence the delegates. Only in two to three states do people actually vote for the presidential nominee. It's all based on delegates who are selected by each state party committee.
It could be said the Libertarian Party is less democratic than either the Republican or Democratic party, but that would be missing the bigger picture. The Libertarian Party doesn't have enough people interested in the party to justify holding primary election. Primary elections cost money, which the Libertarian Party doesn't have..
The Libertarian Party is dying.
Hunter Sullivan
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Thomas Long
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Xavier Gray
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Elijah James
where we're going, we don't need roads
Andrew Scott
>The only reason this thread is a thing is that the libertarians have been polling very high, and may as well play a factor in this election.
Libertarians are falling for the poll meme. Protip: Demographics is destiny. There are not enough autistic, atheistic, upper-middle class White males in the country to give the Libertarian Party even 2% of the vote.
Mason Hill
>8PM EST
I must prepare myself for the cringe
Noah Walker
>Libertarians Welcome to your new neighbors!
Aiden Johnson
Remember, the only reason society ever goes bad is because of socialism and government power
Angel Scott
but dude, the free market will fix this. Don't worry :^)
Nicholas Murphy
>implying they wouldn't have been ethnically cleansed on day one
Anthony Ross
What the fuck happened to libertarianism?
Within the past few years, it's turned into nothing but degeneracy, dudeweedlmao, open borders, and all-around cuckoldry
I swear, I'm pretty sure after libertarianism got a lot of momentum after Ron Paul, the jews and leftists infiltrated and co-opted it like they always do. This isn't the libertarianism of Friedman, Rothbard, and Hoppe.
Ryder Collins
Let them all in!
Hudson Phillips
Number of tokens each presidential candidate received today (for each of the top 5 who will be in the final LP presidential debate tonight at 8p EDT / 5p PDT):
Johnson 226 Petersen 106 Perry 105 McAfee 97 Feldman 89
Nathan Wilson
Ooga booga!
Jaxon Perry
Not all of us are. I'm a national libertarian
Owen Ortiz
The Libertarian Party will help Trump get the nomination.
Johnson/Weld pulls some voters from Hillary, and keeps 'Never-Trumpers' from voting for Hillary.
The LP helps Trump win swing states.
Kayden Green
holy fuck this is what we are importing to pay my pension. Jesus
Christopher Hall
>Muh diversity >Muh gay rights >Muh open borders >Muh """""""free"""""" trade
Jayden Howard
Socialism and government power is a cancer to prosperous civilizations that are prosperous in the first place because of their fundational values (virtues), because these allow cooperation, divergent actions, competition and innovation.
those nigs are just niggin
>libertarian >vote kek
Grayson Roberts
i dont, but it usually comes with eliminating social groups first as well as welfare and mandated health insurance
nigger thats wisconsin right here and now, and its been a uncontested pile of liberal shit
we may have scott walker who did well in the beginning but he fucked up hard and its gonna be tough to see anyone but liberal in the next position of power
Jeremiah Young
A more simple answer is that the Libertarian Party doesn't attract the most brightest bunch. It is true that Libertarians tend to be the most intelligent, more logical people, but they fail in emotional intelligence and interpersonal relationships. They don't know how to work together. Further, I doubt the Libertarian Party consists of even a quarter of the Ayn Rand ideal: an attractive, intelligent, charming individual who is a capitalist, a producer who brings wealth to others as much as to themselves. I wouldn't be surprise if the Libertarian Party mainly consist of lower middle class people. The wealthiest and most successful of Libertarians tend to be part of the Libertarian intelligentsia (e.g., Tom Woods).
Noah Thompson
If these people moved into my neighborhood in a libertarian society, I wouldn't be able to run them off because the 'government' police would come after me for infringing on the niggers personal liberty, right? How do libertarians expect someone to handle a problem like this before it's too late and my whole family would be butchered and raped by them?
Justin Anderson
How has Sup Forums become so anti-freedom? Any Americans in this thread shit talking the party, can go fuck off to Europe, faggots. Can't you see the LP popularizes the socially liberal stances because it draws young people in? This is the same party that believes the civil rights act is unconstitutional, and just because Gary Johnson said they have to bake a fag cake doesn't mean that's what most libertarians believe.
Isaiah Hill
libertarianism allows you to bann anyone or any group the fuck out of your property, you can even make a colective to keep the human trash outside, libertarianism allows that to happen without any inmoral behaviour at all
Every land is subject of property, therefore bringing nigs would be responsability of the one that grab them. There would be negative incentives for bad decision makers.
Human trash aren't harmfull in libertarian scenarios, simply because you leave a flexible frame to come up with different solutions to the problem, because fucking freedom.
Owen Scott
How do tokens work? Is it one token per delegate or do delegates get a number of tokens and then distribute tokens how ever they like? If the latter, can they put all of their token into one candidate or do they have a limit of one token per candidate per delegate?
Wyatt Sanders
This. It feels a bit like Johnson is being shoved down our throats, but he gives the best odds of breaking the two party power duopoly in the US.
Justin Butler
God damn the libertarian party has really gone down the tube >saged
Jayden Cook
>he isn't a libertarian >he must be a dirty socialist I thought you libertarians were supposed to be the most rational and logical?
Mason Powell
that's basically feudalism. You dissolve borders, people buy private land, enclaves form and you start having city states. Do we really want to go back to the middle ages?
Mason Harris
Is Libertarianism the fedora of political ideologies?
Nathan Hall
They should stop banning communismkills
Leo Williams
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Alexander Wood
No, that's alt-rightism
Parker Anderson
That's wrong actually. People can unite and create communities, discriminating as they please. Private property is the sacred tenant of Libertarians. So unless they, or someone else let them live in your neighboorhood, you wouldn't have a problem.
Also pro second amend, if they step foot onto your property with intent to hurt you, you would have every right to defend yourself.
You could also run them off by buying all the property in the area.
On Gary "The Cuck" Johnson wants to ban discrimination. He is not a true libertarian.
Brody Baker
Each delegate gets two tokens.
Connor Wood
I'm not. I was just mocking how much lolbergs act like commies. >Collectivism is bad! We must follow the party. >Commies are brainwashed! The """free"""" market is always right. >Muh not true free market economy! Commies say not true communism, but it do. etc.
Owen Thompson
Thanks.
Grayson Thomas
Edit: just one token for prez and one for vp
Isaiah Young
Are you really so ignorant you can't find any diference between a libertarian frame and a feudalist framework?
Really?
are you a nigger? do you know the dunning-kruger effect? check your ignorance
Jordan Kelly
Eliminate taxes, the welfare state, and make citizenship very difficult to obtain, and the only people who will want to immigrate to the country will be hard-working entrepreneurs looking for a better situation.
Some libertarians also argue that opening the borders first would force the end of the welfare state, by overloading the system beyond repair - I'm skeptical to that idea.
Christian Clark
The LP is wrought with leftism, particularly this election cycle. Open border and anti-discrimination? I know they're clawing for Bernouts but for fuck's sake. True libertarians will find no recourse in this pathetic excuse of representation.
Josiah Russell
HAHAHAHAHAHA
The Libertarian National Convention is still using Microsoft XP
>CURRENT YEAR >Using outdated, unsafe computer systems
He also spoke of amnesty, invoking both former President Ronald Reagan, and economist Milton Friedman, to make the case for supporting it:
The opposite (of amnesty) is to turn this government into a totalitarian police state, and to try and deport 11 million people. So, if I had to chose between doing what Ronald Reagan did, or turn us into an authoritarian police state, I’m gonna go with the Ronald Reagan approach.
We need to incentivize legal immigration. It takes 15-25 years to become an American citizen. That’s a quarter of a life. We need to have a very stringent security check. A very stringent disease check. That would be a simple path to naturalization, and we would have less of that illegal immigration that people are worried about.
Eli Sanchez
What a cuck
Nicholas Ramirez
>muh police state
Why not just be a fucking anarchist?
Zachary Moore
Tell me again how libertarians aren't SJW.
Asher James
Is that last one a man?
Adam Brown
>Would be libertarian as of a year ago due to a shift in my views >Libertarians are suddenly open borders >Tfw wasnt be a libertarian when old school libertarianism was around
Parker Cruz
Open Borders Party
Evan Myers
Yer a National Libertarian, user.
Thomas Wood
>The Libertarian party stands for gay rights, legalization of drugs, small government, open borders, and gun rights.
Only the last of those has anything to do with actual libertarianism. All of the rest is Marxist horseshit.
t. Rothbard
Alexander Lewis
It would be pretty ebin if feminists entrenched themselves in classical liberalism in the distant future. Would necessarily make it less cancerous. If on the other hand, they sullied libertarianism, it would just become brute progressivism, so there is no ground to tread in that regard
Angel Robinson
>Old liberatarians stand with tax plans and economic reform to bring back what was essentially the Washington presidency which was said to be the best >Current year >Lmao who cares about taxes or boring things like economics >Why not open borders ahaha >GAY RIGHT GUYS >SHIT THAT DOSEN'T MATTER >DUDE WEED
Like I understand libertarians were never popular but to make fun of it like this and shit on the ideals just for a few more voters