Turkey isn't joining the EU, not to mention that every single country has a veto and Ireland even has a mandatory referendum if Turkey should join or not.
Seems fucking desperate to me and will alienate lots of undecided people.
Britbongs, has the Brexit campaign gone completely retard?
Grayson Martin
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Angel Baker
Don't they have a civil war going on?
Brandon Thomas
Merkel, this is not a place for you
Joshua Ward
They want Turkey to join. Also, Turkey is already flooding the EU with Muslims via Greece.
Daniel Bailey
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Jace Evans
>Merkel, this is not a place for you
Read my post. I am pro-Brexit. I am feeling the Brexit campaign is jumping the shark and is jeopardizing the vote. That is bad.
Dominic Carter
So you don't think Turkey will join the EU?
Nicholas Bailey
Isn't Cameron completely open to the idea now and it will definitely happen in the future because of this?
That's what I've picked up, I'm avidly pro-Brexit and wish these cunts would get out.
Cooper Watson
> pro-brexit
> denglisch
Kevin, pls
Jason Cooper
It won't alienate Brits.
Jonathan Wood
>So you don't think Turkey will join the EU?
Correct. There is no way Turkey will ever join the EU. Look into the subject, it just is impossible.
>Isn't Cameron completely open to the idea now and it will definitely happen in the future because of this?
No. Never heard of this. Anyway, there are countries such as Austria, or the V-4 or Slovenia or the Baltics or Finland etc. who have 80%+ of their population being against Turkey joining and politicians from all parties (left or right) saying Turkey will never join.
>Kevin, pls
I am pro-Brexit, because I am pro-EU and believe without the Brits, the EU has to reform massively... or fall apart.
I have a Norwegian name, not a British name, by the way, dear Ahmed.
Julian Reed
>It won't alienate Brits.
It already does. I just watched this debate youtube.com
and there was an uproar in the audience when the Turkey poster was discussed. People were feeling it was a shit move of the Brexit campaign catering to the fear of the far right 10% of the population.
Connor Brooks
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telegraph.co.uk
blogs.spectator.co.uk
express.co.uk
Takes one google my man. I think it's a legitimate worry considering the state of democracy in Europe.
Gavin Hill
To be fair at this point, Turkey might as well join the EU, we are being flooded with people from the 3rd world, not just the middle east but Africa also. And the EU will try to punish your country if it doesn't accept this mass migration.
Kayden Morgan
>ireland has referendum
you think they care? like they cared about dutch? the french?
that's the fucking problem they are an anti-democratic oligarchy that don't care about "muh votes"
Noah Lopez
>you think they care? like they cared about dutch? the french?
Yes. There has never been a referendum which was just overruled by the government. Never.
Caleb Rogers
It's hilarious that people say Turkey isn't joining.
Turkey is in the final stages of joining. The EU, if it didn't want Turkey to join, could simply end the joining process.
Lets get something very, very clear: The EU and Turkey hold meetings aimed at Turkey joining the EU.
More clearly: The EU Commission wants Turkey to join.
And pretty much all member states want Turkey to join, too - yes, including V4, and including the UK.
Jaxson Hall
If Turkey joins the EU.
We in Germany are fucked.
Julian Smith
When the Irish and Dutch voted against the EU they just made them vote again until they got the right result. Wouldn't be surprised if the votes were fixed the second time. The lisbon treaty is exactly the same as the "European Constitution" the Dutch voted against. They literally changed the name and made them vote again.
Joshua Jackson
Sorry Swissbro meant to reply to
Gabriel Gray
>Negotiations to modify EU institutions began in 2001, resulting first in the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe, which would have repealed the existing European treaties and replaced them with a "constitution". Although ratified by a majority of Member States, this was abandoned after being rejected by 54.67% of French voters on 29 May 2005[7][8] and then by 61.54% of Dutch voters on 1 June 2005.[9] After a "period of reflection", Member States agreed instead to maintain the existing treaties, but to amend them, salvaging a number of the reforms that had been envisaged in the constitution. An amending "reform" treaty was drawn up and signed in Lisbon in 2007. It was originally intended to have been ratified by all member states by the end of 2008. This timetable failed, primarily due to the initial rejection of the Treaty in 2008 by the Irish electorate, a decision which was reversed in a second referendum in 2009 after Ireland secured a number of concessions related to the treaty.
>en.m.wikipedia.org
they just renamed it and wanted to implement it without giving a fuck. the irish said no but were forced to say yes.
tell me how is this democratic?
Elijah Long
brits are cuks they'll never leave
mark my words
John Bennett
>DC said he would be Turkey's ally in the EU
>Turkey is getting more and more stuff by having migrants
It's possible
Also
Daniel Baker
>thinks eurocucks can stop the turds from joining the EU
Josiah Hernandez
Turkey already has a deal coming into place that allows them visa free travel access. Forget them needing to join the EU, Europe is about to get flooded with them.
Not the UK of course because they will opt out. Being and island saves them once again.
Also don't forget to vote leave on June 23rd.
Charles Wright
>Turkey isn't joining the EU
>already has visa free access to schengen
Mason Barnes
fuck off Germany
>Merkel pushes for Turkey EU membership talks (oct 2015)
euobserver.com
>David Cameron: I still want Turkey to join EU, despite migrant fears (Dec 2014)
telegraph.co.uk
Are they lying to Turkey or are they lying to us? Given past performance I'd say David "I'd support Brexit if I can't reform the EU" Cameron is a lying piece of shit and Turks are going to flooding the labour market in 5 years or so.
Robert Cook
>So you don't think Turkey will join the EU?
Not anytime soon.
Blake Williams
>they just renamed it and wanted to implement it without giving a fuck. the irish said no but were forced to say yes.
>tell me how is this democratic?
I am a lawyer, I know this is a different Treaty.
Not to mention that it is up to the state to hold a referendum or not, it is NOT up to the EU.
Isaiah James
I've voting Leave, as are my entire family, friends, co-workers.
But It's gotten to the point where, as a voter, you just have to accept that what will be will be. If we leave, we have the best opportunity to embrace British Nationalism. If we stay, The United States of Europe will be the outcome, and we will have to become Pan-European Nationalists.
Besides, all the ex-soviet states voted to stay at some point and they eventually left in the end.
It's never over, chaps. Just keep fighting the good fight. That's all you can do.
Justin Garcia
>Turkey isn't joining the EU
Oh boy user are you this blind. Did you buy the 'Slippery Slope is a fallacy' meme.
Dylan Ward
There are tons of EU states who already said they will block Turkey EU membership. And it was politicians from all major parties who said that and 80%+ of the population in e.g. Austria says so.
theguardian.com
As Cameron says, if Turkey joins, the earliest date is probably 1 January 3000.
Adam Carter
>looks at flag
t. Mehmet
Ethan Brown
implying they can block it, they're already giving the turks visas with the immigration deal erdogan pulled off.
open your fucking eyes and recognise you live in a bureaucratic dictatorship. politicians on all sides of the politcal spectrum are lying when they get press time.
Brody Garcia
Good. Germany is the cancer of Europe.
Asher Thompson
>visa free travel to be passed next month, says Frans Timmermans
>EU to announce plans for an EU army after 23 june
Oh I'm so sure the EU wont let Turkey join. So sure.
Owen Sanders
Dutch referendum, of April the 6th, has been ignored by our politicians and parts of the treaty are being implemented.
The Dutch and French referenda that said no to a EU constitution were ignored and worked around in the treaty of Lisbon.
Luis Scott
CRASHING THIS UNION
Jackson Clark
fuck off eternal kraut we know they are
Cooper Miller
>tfw voted leave by post yesterday
feels good lads
Josiah Martinez
>Turkey isn't joining the EU
Our Prime Minister thinks differently and openly advocates it
>he actually thinks there is a limit to EU expansion
>muh mandatory Irish referendum
Remind me what happened the last time the Irish had a referendum on the EU
Jackson Bailey
Good lad, are nige would be proud
Carson Campbell
Will the voting process have "mail in" options like the Austrian presidential vote?
Will this be more susceptible to political scandal?
Ryan Davis
those audiences are handpicked to have leftwing cucks my friend
Christian Johnson
>Germany
The cancer of Europe, needs to be wiped off the face of the Earth tbqhwyfam
>An American WILL reply to this post defending the German people who have destroyed everything
Adam Ward
The germans are only shilling for the EU because they know they will never get out of it so they want to take the rest of Europe down in their sinking ship (whilst they blow holes in the hull).
Parker Evans
Be good to see the Dad's Army intro shopped so that the nazi flag arrows are swapped out for Turkish flags.
Lincoln Clark
This is such a stupid thing to be against m8.
Goddamn, you know what Turks getting visa refusals from the EU abbassadors doesn't exceed 3%.
We can already go to the EU whenever we like to. Even now many Turks have already special passports that grant them visa free traveling.
This whole visa free travel thing will remove the visa fee, that's all.
Juan King
>turkey joining the eu
how the fuck are you guys so subversive? eu membership doesn't even have support in turkey. how in the hells name would it ever happen?
>While 40 percent of the respondents said Turkey's EU membership would be "bad", 33 percent said that the membership would be "good"
fuck off with your fourth reich, we don't want it. we just want the visa deal because we want to export some kurds.
Zachary Gutierrez
Yes there is a postal vote, the inams gather them all up from their 'community' and vote Labour usually
Colton Smith
They were promised a travel visa for every citizen in Turkey
Samuel Johnson
Ok but how secure are they from being "misplaced"?
Bentley Rodriguez
>eu membership doesn't even have support in turkey. how in the hells name would it ever happen?
But Turks just look at the EU unfavorably because ISIS hasn't made a caliphate out of it, right? Once Brussels is captured by ISIS, you will love to join, no?
>fuck off with your fourth reich, we don't want it. we just want the visa deal because we want to export some kurds.
The visa deal won't ever get through. Why? Because it is actually Erdogan who truly doesn't want it - EXACTLY because a lot of political opposition and Kurds may ask for asylum in Germany, which may just hurt EU tourism to Turkey etc.
Erdogan wants everything to stay as is + more support for ISIS. He just cannot say it in public.
Dominic Ortiz
Not sure, desu voter intimidation and others filling out the ballots is much more prevalent than any cases of out an out vote tampering, however I have heard of ballots being scribbled on so that they are counted as spoilt ballots.
Kayden Peterson
They are making arrangements so Turks have visa free travel to the eu. Thin end of the wedge.
Joshua Hall
No, Erdoğan doesn't really care for it. It was Davutoğlu's project and now that he is no more in power this visa free traveling project is without owner from Turkey's side.
As I've said before you can go to the EU so easily, only thing that's troublesome is the visa fees but anyone thinking of applying for ayslum wouldn't hesistate to pay 60 € visa fee for it I'd think.
Jeremiah Diaz
Once this is done, the excuse will be that Turkey might as well join the EU anyway, since they already have visa free travel.
Joshua Lee
considering the way things are going with you cucks importing sandniggers, it won't be long before a turkey worth of muds are flooding in.
Joshua Phillips
> Turkey isn't joining the EU, not to mention that every single country has a veto and Ireland even has a mandatory referendum if Turkey should join or not.
Piss off roach
Jose Green
>but anyone thinking of applying for ayslum wouldn't hesistate to pay 60 € visa fee for it I'd think.
True, if you can pay billions to ISIS, you can pay a bit of visa fees, can't you?
Robert Myers
>ISIS meme
Anyways Visa refusal rate in Turkey is below 3% and you can still object to it and get your visa.
I don't understand what the big deal about this whole visa free travelling is.
Austin Williams
Yes, they also border Syria and have large amounts of ISIS in their country.
Ian Reed
>le turey suports isis meme
>>>/reddit/
Samuel King
>joining a union of no-military betas who suck Putin's dick.
No thanks.
We'd rather keep shooting slavshit planes down, while you can't even condemn Russia for killing 300 Dutch civilians with rockets..
Justin Walker
they view turkey as sitting between two chairs
despite the rusty russian jets they shot down, turkey remains a possible ally for russia
the only reason turkey isn't with russia is because america invested a lot in this region, and funded anti soviet and anti communist action in turkey
operation gladio b was the project, and it was a success, the russians were kept out and turkey never became communist
turkey now has an american base with american nukes on its soil, but the ties need to be strengthened, and i think this is why they want turkey to join the EU
the turkish people do not want to join the EU, but the socialist, leftist, secularist personality cult down the throat shoving feminist marxist cunts who oppose the current government want in the EU
turkey is quite in a position, between a man trying to consolidate power to himself, and the opposition being weak, soft, estrogen filled feminist men and women who's only concern of the day is whether or not they can roam the street naked in turkey, and they repeat this indefinitely
it's no wonder the secularist movement is failing in turkey, it's filled with do nothing, low energy, weak minded soft cunts who are afraid of free speech, who believe in the mentality that you ought to be able to do anything you want, but that you shouldn't ever say anything offensive
they mimic the leftists of the west, and that's why they're failing
Elijah Phillips
You're dumb if you think they don't. Turkey wants Assad gone, and ISIS are a means to that end.
Hunter Hill
erdogan is possibly the trump of turkey when it comes to making deal it seems
good for him i guess
Leo Turner
>Turkey isn't joining the EU
kek, you silly kraut, Turkey recently signed a free visa agreement with the EU. If you are not an idiot, you should know by now the next step is Turkey joining the EU.
Brandon Clark
>while you can't even condemn Russia for killing 300 Dutch civilians with rockets..
Last I checked, Russia did not shoot down Dutch civilians... while Turkey deliberately shot down a Russian plane fighting Islamists.
Turks are the worst scum on Earth. Islamist shit supporters. If I had anything to say, I would introduce the harshest sanctions there could be, with not a single EU tourist coming to Turkey as long as they continue to support ISIS.
Julian Jenkins
>turkey remains a possible ally for russia
Turkey is an ally of ISIL and Russia is fighting against it now.
Oliver Long
>Turks are the worst scum on Earth and Islamist shit supporters
And your leader actively supports Turkey joining the EU. Now explain that shit to us, Kraut.
Jacob Brooks
>Anyways Visa refusal rate in Turkey is below 3% and you can still object to it and get your visa.
Each year, EU states refuse 300,000 Turks from entering the EU because they are terrorists, Kurds or potential asylum seekers... yes, only 5%... well, those 300,000 a year NEED to be blocked.
>I don't understand what the big deal about this whole visa free travelling is.
Because you are a fucking ISIS supporting scum Muslim. We should cut off all support and all planes and all roads to Turkey right now.
Lincoln King
turkey has been killing ISIS folks for quite some time now
turkey is not an ally of ISIS anymore
Jacob Clark
>British Nationalism
kek there wont be a Britain, scotland is gone, norn ireland leaves, wales breaks off for dem eu monies.
Tyler Ortiz
>And your leader actively supports Turkey joining the EU. Now explain that shit to us, Kraut.
She is mental. Her brain fried last year. First she made a girl cry on TV telling her flat out she cannot stay in Germany and needs to go back to Palestine because she was a terrorist non-refugee. Then something snapped and she completely blew up... and is now the hero of the left and Greens with her own party in disarray.
Josiah Cook
>turkey has been killing ISIS folks for quite some time now
Is that why Turkey is bombing Kurdish troops fighting ISIS, allowing ISIS to attack Kurds?
Evan Bailey
ağlayın amk köleleri ATILDINIZ!
Robert Smith
whats wrong with that? kurds, isis, different name same shit
the kurds are communists, worse than islamists to be honest
Eli Martinez
You really think Germany cares what its vassals think?
Julian Brooks
>kurds, isis, different name same shit
wow, just wow.
ISIS are Muslim fundamentalists who would slit your throat. Kurds would play tennis with you and have a good time at Roland Garros.
Jack Walker
crypto communist detected
communists will send you to the gulad for not being part of the communist "revolution"
what happens in gulags? things worse than anything that we've seen from the ISIS
there's literally nothing wrong bombing both groups to smitherins
we don't need kurds, we don't need kommunists
Lincoln Ortiz
At least their cities aren't infested with sharia lovers.
Colton Davis
have you seen venezuela?
Jackson Gutierrez
Supra-national states always fall apart in the end. I'm just worried it will be more like the breakup of Yugoslavia than the Soviet Union, especially if they create an EU army to bully smaller states into compliance.
The populist right will continue to grow. Eventually, I expect Eurosceptic parties will make up a majority in the European Parliament, allowing them to deadlock the entire system until reforms are made. That's the only easy way out I can see.
I think that English nationalism would be a lot stronger anyway. I'm not really sure how one can define "British identity" without our empire and with Scots trying to be special Gaelic snowflakes. At the very least, we would never have to suffer a left-wing government again.
Isaiah Russell
>Supra-national states always fall apart in the end.
Great Britain still exists after 250 years of Scottish suffering...
>I think that English nationalism would be a lot stronger anyway.
And I think that European nationalism should be a lot stronger. We should defend our Christian Europe against the foreign invaders.
Landon Collins
>I have a Norwegian name, not a British name, by the way, dear Ahmed.
>Beorn Al-Wulfgar
Christian Hall
You mean after 250 years of everything in scotland being subsidised by the actually successful country in the union?
Suffering my ass. Maybe those faggots shouldn't have lost literally every time they invaded.
Owen Baker
So art thou just a guy who will be nationalist no matter what country you are in?
E.g. suppose you are suddenly teleported to the United States of Europe. Will you drop the Union Jack and get the Euro flag instead?
Isaac Wright
>after 250 years of Scottish suffering
Get off of that proxy Salmond.
Hudson Gutierrez
Fucking 'stralia.
Owen Nguyen
In the British Empire's heyday, Scotland's industries and intellectuals were a huge boon to Britain as a whole, helping to create a very strong sense of union.
But since the 1960s, looking back on the good old days of the Empire is considered very uncouth indeed, so the sense of unity we built has been eroded.
This has also been enormously exacerbated by the ">muh Tories" bullshit in Scotland since the 1980s.
I don't think the union of England and Scotland can ever truly recover, but maybe Britain standing strongly on its own two feet outside the EU will make the Scots realise that UK>EU.
Leo Green
But are they Schengen visa's that let you remain and work for as long as you wish?
Didn't think so
Carter Jones
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