What does Sup Forums think of The Last Jedi?

What does Sup Forums think of The Last Jedi?

a bit disappointing

In general, Sup Forums views the world with myopia, pessimism and nihilism, takes everything literally and sees anything wholesome or positive as without value.

With The Last Jedi they focus on the few weird scenes (which aren't inherently bad, just tonally different) and completely ignore the characters, story, themes, visuals, acting or production. They also react negatively to the gender and race modernism and cultural reflection with resentment or downright hate either consciously or unconsciously. Sup Forums is the worst possible critic, of anything. They hate themselves and hate anything that doesn't remind them of how much they hate themselves.

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Absolute fucking mass oriented poorly acted shit written gimmicky zombified-franchise trash. Kill yourself if you liked it. They just wanted your money.

How would you rate the prequels then?

Well, the important thing is you're not over-reacting.

What do you get when you put together progressivism, "diversity", race-mixing, Judeo-Bolshevism, Mary Sue and a gorilla? That's right, a pile of steaming, stinking shit.

Went to the midnight premier with the rest of the unwashed.

Enjoyed it but it has flaws. I wasn't a fan of Luke's arc and thought the end could have been handled differently. Felt like a waste of the character.
The whole scene in the casino was unnecessary.

Ultimately I was entertained and would watch again. Anyone banging on that this is shit tier and raped their childhoods etc. need to get a fucking life and realise Star Wars was never high art. It's just a kids adventure film set in space.

(-) in your fucking face merch placement production, chaotic
(+) daisy is cute as fuck

It was meh. But I dind't expect it to be any good after I've seen the last one.

Just went to watch it because my brother invited me.

Dat tiddy milk tho

fun movie to watch in the cinema with some friends. morons and nerds take star wars too seriously so they're upset that the new ones don't feature oscar winning dialogue

also psst.. the old ones were shit movies too. they were basically merchandise-machines, just like the new ones.

the fact that people expect good cinema from huge titles like star wars these days anyway blows my mind. huge titles like this are made to take as few risks as possible in order to hit every demographic, so they can make as much money as possible.
Sup Forumstards read way too much into it and think that jews are brainwashing kids with muh diversity. they're interested in making money, not brainwashing the youth.

It was alright.
Casino bit was a bit meh.

Better than any of the prequels, so I've no idea what the fuck people are making such a fuss about.

only morons like the story.. this movie literally pretends like SW7 never happened - where was snoke's story? rey's parents nobody.. yeah ofc, that's why obiwan asked her by name when she took vader's lightsaber

this is literally the most retarded and worst plot ever with so many logic errors - movie needs to be wiped off the face of earth

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I kind of hoped she and kylo would have fucked bareback on the throne after the lightsaber battle.

And the prequel trilogy plot of Anakin bringing balance to the Force made sense?
Fucking Jedis everywhere, no Sith to be seen, how the fuck did they think he was going to balance things out?!
a) shit out Sith till they matched the Jedis in number?
or b) kill the fucking Jedis?

Oh, and fucking cunting midichlorians, what the fuck was he thinking?

>the characters, story, themes, visuals, acting or production
Are you implying these were well done?
Only the latter 3 were any good.

it was...ok. the scene with Yoda was kinda funny, but the number of curveballs were...meh. like, oh wow, luke survived. oh wow, kylo is going through a redemption arc. oh wow, rey was sold for booze.
Overall, I'd say it was a good movie but several scenes could have been handled better for more effect and impact.

totally, I wouldnt mind a tit popping out or sth

When he shoots inside her, she could have said something like, "Now Luke won't be the Last Jedi after all."

Honestly it was like it was written by a child. Several plotlines and themes completely ignored, some completely thrown out. So full of plotholes every person on Sup Forums could stick their dick in one. Nothing made sense, motives were fucked, resistance literally killed itself. Too many nothing characters. Too many nothing scenes with no dialogue just edgy jokes
But it looked so good, so people will tell you it was good and you're just being a whiny little bitch.

People who think this movie is alright are normies who only think it's good because of stupid funnies and special effects. The story of this movie is so fucking stupid there's like 30000000 plot holes and the only cool parts of the movie are ruined by stupid shit. I.e snoke dying and luke force projecting himself into the fight just to die anyway for no reason. Fucking garbage.

the star wars the star wars
WHO CARES

Maybe you're just a cancerous fanboy that's incapable of being critical towards things you like.

Acting was hammy asf

I don't understand why people say the prequels were shit, and that is somehow supposed to effect peoples rating of this movie? Get over it

>there's like 30000000 plot holes
List all of them.

I'm critical of The Force Awakens. Maybe you're jaded?

I loved puppet Yoda. Obi should've been there too

I don't have enough characters to do that.

> arguing about how prequels didn't make sense
> sw7+ was supposed to continue the original trilogy
you are actually fucking stupid, right?

Google it you fucking pleb or go watch a review people are raging
Don't ask to be spoonfed like a little bitch

Shit beyond measure

List as many of them as you can without ranting.

Leia should've died when she got shot out that fuckin ship, became a useless character after that point anyway and would've been a decent ending to her character arc. Have no clue what they will do with her in the final one now that Carrie fisher is dead unless they recorded all her scenes prior.

I don't care enough to read some autist go apeshit over stupid shit, would rather an user just give me the abridged version.

Its really just capitalist enterprise trying to map onto progressive trends for broader appeal and less backlash to make more money - its the furthest thing from your conspiracies you cunt

3/10

Weird obsession with feminism and race mixing pushed heavily.
If you want a stronk woman then you have to write one, not just place a frail bitch into a role written for a man.

The fact that they had such a shit deal with cinemas makes sense though, they were fully aware this was a lemon and desperatly had to ensure profitability.

1. Snoke's entire story
2. Rey's parents
3. Dark side of force mirror
4. Why show Luke's ship if he doesn't use it
5. how did luke give leia physical material if he was a force projection
6. How did rey become a lightsaber master without any training at all and then kill the elite guard of snoke?
7. Why did nobody ever before hit another ship with light speed
8. Why did the old fighter of nigger finn not melt from a beam that melted through concrete steel
9. why did leia suddenly develop invincibility from never training with the force if she was only force sensitive before
10. still not covered the plot holes from 7 about the rest of the republic which suddenly disappeared between 6 and 7.. reminder: imperium was defeated in 6 and republic contained thousands of systems

here have 10, i need to take a shit, aka. make a star wars sequel

See star wars was not originally intended to be a kids movie. First couple of scenes in the first star wars movie shows a guys uncle and aunt burned to death. A captain choked to death while being interrogated and a princess tortured for information.

Fuck you hipsters that are too stupid to even consider what the movies where and think for a moment maybe the people that dislike the movie dislike the change into a children's movie.

Fuck you kill yourself

Can't argue with any of those, thank user.

very poor film, which made me less interested in episode 9 and the other solo movies

11. why did the diversity asian and token nigger not get shot by the ATATs guarding the massive cannon on that faggot salt desert - how did they even make it back alive??? did they just walk away and the first order watch them make tinder love

Why does Poe know Maz? Finn met her but was unconscious since the last film so when did he have time to tell Poe?
Why was yoda able to physically hit Luke?
Couldn’t yoda have force projected himself instead of luke to fight Ren? He’s not transparent after all
So Yoda is zeus. Why doesn’t he spend his time zapping kylo instead of old sacred trees?
Luke doesn’t move salt but does block light?
Luke hands Leia Han’s dice, and she leaves them in the control room?
Why did they say that only Finn knew where the tracker would be, and then they have a hologram (green and red for some reason??) that shows exactly where the tracker is?
Who is admiral Holdo? If the purpose of the character is to have a meaningful sacrifice, why not have it be a character that people actually care about. Like Admiral Ackbar?
Thanks to Leia’s mother in episode one we know space is cold. And yet Leia’s eyes don’t freeze. Then she opens an air lock, and the people on the other side don’t get sucked out. Can she alter all of the laws of physics?
Why was only Finn and Rose’s ship undetectable? Why didn’t they get some real help? Surely someone in the galaxy could do something
Why after Rose’s sister has sacrificed herself, Rose insists that sacrificing yourself is the wrong thing to do. Does she think her sister died in vain? Does she think Holdo died in vain? Does she think Luke did? She essentially traded in Finn’s sacrifice for Luke’s. In a movie where so many ‘heroes’ sacrifice themselves, her message is simply a big contradiction.
How did Finn and Rose survive that crash?
How did Finn and Rose make it back to the cave without being shot?
How did Poe survive being blown against a metal wall by an explosions and have shrapnel thrown all around him?
So Captain phasma’s armor can block lasers. Why. Does. No. One. Else. Have. That. Amour.
Who are the knights of Ren? Supposedly Ren is the master of these knights who we have yet to meet. out of space here

Yea the movie was total shit

It was an enjoyable film but it had many many issues. This film made it obvious that these films are intended as more of a reboot than sequels. This isnt your grandpappies Star Wars. The writing was flawed and character development was practically non-existant except for Kylo Ren who was actually cool. Everybody took issue with Leia flying through space. That was a weak scene and would have had a much greater impact if she abruptly died (a la Joss Whedon style) HOWEVER it wasnt that bad to me. She used force shield. An ability we've seen used several before (i.e. Vader deflecting laser blasts with his hand) and she didn't FLY. She was weightless in space and used force push to pull herself to the nearest object. It still exhausted her and put her in a coma. I didn't think it was ridiculous, just a poor scene. The team up with Kylo and Rey was badass but they had a chance to do something different with those characters but instead made it the same old good vs bad trope. Finn/Rose subplot could have been entirely cut from the film. It served no purpose. Laura Derns character was annoying. Apparently bombs still drop in space somehow (what is gravity?). Apparently hyper drive is the greatest weapon in the galaxy and nobody thought to ever utilize it until now. Holdo sacrificed two ships for no reason that she could have turned on the enemy, and saved thousands of lives. Benicio Del Toros character was pointless and could have been cut. Phantasma was wasted AGAIN and got her ass whipped by the fucking janitor. Luke was a cool character. i feel he could have been utilized better at the end (like force deflect blasts back at the AT-ATs). i still enjoyed the scene with him and Kylo, though it was short. I feel if they cut the Finn/Rose subplot, killed Leia abruptly, Made Holdo less of a cunt and more of a hard ass, focused more on Rey's character, and utilized Luke more at the end and extended his fight with Kylo it would have been a much better film.

On top of thiis anons points;

The SJW insert literally destroys the resistance. Because of her refusal to tell Poe the actual plan, Poe sends his friends on a suicide mission that results in them both being captured and their secret plans revealed by the stuttering nothing character who it seems they only put in the movie to betray them when they worked out that they couldn't have the original friend of Maz betray the group. The defenceless resistance crafts then get shot down. This is all so they could have a girls are smarter than boys moment when Leia says "She cared more about protecting the light than being a hero" but she is literally not a hero, she destroys her own faction. They make Poe look stupid like this 3 times in the movies, once would have got the point across so we could further the movie and cut out the whole casino scene, but no.
Leia survives to do fucking nothing for the rest of the movie except shoot Poe.
Why couldn't Finn and Rose simply go and get more fuel?
Why couldn't the first order just have other ships jump in closer the rebels?
Luke didn't really need to die, they are just writing him out the movie because they can't write good stories
Snoke can use lightning, throw people around like it's nothing, overpower Rey with ease and see every though in kylos head but apparently can't see or hear the lightsaber turning right fucking next to him. Again just writing him out because they don't know how to deal with him.

It was really good.

Kept challenging expectations with surprising character developments, keeps you on your toes, nothing is sacred, nothing is permanent. Deepest and most emotional Star Wars yet.

She left the dice for Kylo, did you miss it?

>Why does Poe know Maz?

Just because you don't see Poe meeting her on screen doesn't mean he doesn't know her. His backstory might have even run into Han Solo at some point for all we know.

>Why was yoda able to physically hit Luke?
He is the strongest in the force of anyone. He can summon lightning mother fucker.

>So Yoda is zeus. Why doesn’t he spend his time zapping kylo instead of old sacred trees?
probably because the dark side won't let him, the force is awoken, so both sides are stronger and fighting for balance

etc etc

you can nit pick all the old trilogy films as well, you just don't want to...

Balance means no Sith not equal Sith to Jedi ratio. And he brought balance when he killed the Emperor.

At least until the force awakens came out and undid all that.

yeah no, this movie literally pulled deus ex machina out of its ass to save main characters and your trying to tell me it was emotional, leia should have dies twice but no, finn should have kamikazed to save the resistance but nope. The only psudo emotional moment was when holdo lightspeeds through the fleet and honeslty who gave a fuck about that cunt. i was happy

So bad it instantly became a meme

And Holdo's sacrifice, are you seriously telling me you've got ships capable of hyperdrive but you need someone to pilot them to commit suicide? Can't you just pop some coordinates in that shit?

Sure there are plot holes in every movie even good ones, but this movie has an unexcusable amount of stupid plot holes.

The bombers obviously have some sort of shield at the bottom though. Because she falls and is still breathing oxygen.
And the bombs fall

>1. Snoke's entire story
What story?

>2. Rey's parents
What parents?

>3. Dark side of force mirror
It was like that bit in the swamp in Empire which made no sense

>4. Why show Luke's ship if he doesn't use it
He'd scuttled it to show he was never leaving, plus it served to show he wasn't really there when he appears later.

>5. how did luke give leia physical material if he was a force projection
He didn't, the dice disappeared to show they were a projection also.

>6. How did rey become a lightsaber master without any training at all and then kill the elite guard of snoke?
Bad writing

>7. Why did nobody ever before hit another ship with light speed
It's suicide?

>8. Why did the old fighter of nigger finn not melt from a beam that melted through concrete steel
It was made of unobtainium

>9. why did leia suddenly develop invincibility from never training with the force if she was only force sensitive before
It was said she is strong with the Force, weren't you paying attention? Women don't need training to use the Force!

>10. still not covered the plot holes from 7 about the rest of the republic which suddenly disappeared between 6 and 7.. reminder: imperium was defeated in 6 and republic contained thousands of systems
Maybe they splintered from the Republic after it had let the Emperor take over.

>literally millennial angst: the movie

>deepest and most emotional star wars of all time

or have a droid pilot the ship

Your full of shit you know that?

It's a Disney Pixar film. Anyone who disagrees is a Disney shill.

Needs more Revan.

Darth Plagueis had altered the actual nature of the force to the dark side. This is what they meant by balance.
In his attempts to create a lifeform capable of destroying the light, the force rejected his influence and created Anakin to spite him. It wouldn't be until years later the nature of the force would return to neutral
None of this matters anymore anyway

haven't seen it but i'm sure it's terrible, all star wars films are total bullshit and not worth seeing

Why is everyone talking about this shit?

Droids might be 3 laws compliant?

The film could have been a lot better, but it could also her been a lot worse

I thought those assholes just hyperdriving away from the fleeing ship and then hyperdriving back on a different ship was fucking stupid.

The swamp scene told you that Luke could easily become Vader if he gave into the dark

Are you fucking stupid user?
Half of these aren't even rebuttals, why do you even bother?

>obviously

there is nothing obvious about that or anything indicating that's the case. That's headcanon

Why do anons post stupid comments?

dubs of truth

Because it's shit

It was ok, I don't get the hate and I don't get the praise.
I like that they tried to do something different, I don't like the lack of charismatic characters from both sides.
I felt like Luke was not used properly (compared to Obi Wan or Yoda, he's a huge disappointment), the black guy and asian chicks are barely okay as sidekicks (compared to Han Solo they just plain suck), Kylo Ren is fuckin awful compared to Vader, at least Snoke was ok compared to the Emperor... And Rey is fine buy deeply underused, same for Poe.

Actually I think the only problems I have with it are the characters, they just can't stand a chance vs the old trilogy.
Still, it was an ok movie and a good Star Wars.

The gravity indicates that, doesn't it?

> 1. Snoke's entire story
exactly, no story because writers were idiots and could deal with this "super natural force beast which looked like it had seen some shit"

>2. Rey's parents
we were told that we'd finally know the bloodline of rey by rian. well, now we know and it's fucking retarded

>4. Why show Luke's ship if he doesn't use it
wouldn't be the first time luke pulled his ship out of water (swamp)

>7. Why did nobody ever before hit another ship with light speed
so all the ships that were doomed before and 100% sure would be killed, couldn't have engaged into light speed? or just make massive ships with a lot of mass and a hyperdrive + auto pilot to waste space ships.. they opened a can of worms which lucas avoided for good reason

Nothing bad ever happens to Rey in this movie. Nothing ever stops her for more than 3 seconds. She never has to stop and think, she never does anything wrong. Shes perfectly powerful without Luke training her at all, he only taught her 3 lessons and told her to reach out. She's a lightsaber master just by thinking about it. The only time she ever faces an obstacle is the stupid cave scene and that doesnt even make sense.
She beats Luke in a stickfight ffs

All these show that the writers know less about star wars than the average star wars original trilogy fan

Movie was written by a guy determined to turn all tropes on their head, go somewhere Star Wars hasn't been before and ignore TFA entirely.

It COULD have been a fucking great movie, it was sooo close at points to greatness. Closing out the Jedi/Empire era with the beginning of a new saga with KyRen as allies, frenemies or whatever.

Instead the characters never changed, the Force is even more bullshit, 45 minutes on EVIL CAPITALISM WORLD, PORGS!!11, Leia goes Super Saiyan 3, Muh Diverse Casting! and the plot ends up exactly where it was at the begining.

Also, 30 seconds in...a fucking YO MOMMA joke....


At least the pewpewpew was neat.

>droids are 3 laws compliant
they fought entire droid armies in the prequels, the empire still has battle droids in Rogue One, The rebels use astro droids for their weapons targeting systems on the x-wings, the Death Star used a torture droids on Leia, Several of the bounty hunters employed by Vader in Empire were droids, BB-8 kills the fuck out of a bunch of people. You're obviously wrong.

Exactly, I don't know why the fuck Rian Johnson was allowed to touch this. JJ was doing okay, he would've done way better this movie. Now he has to pick up the pieces and make a probably equally shitty 3rd movie

I liked it. But they did luke dirty. Not his death but his storyline

damn. youre a pretty edgy kid huh? i mean it's only been translated into almost every language on the planet and has a fan base spanning several generations. Youre right. It's obviouslt shit.

>Your
Opinion discarded.

THIS

Now how much time is going to be wasted in movie 3 trying to untangle the shit laid out in tfa and completely ignored in tlj just to connect them so we can move the fucking plot along.

I thought it was pretty good.
Not what I was expecting, but good nonetheless.
It probably could have been better, but what movie, after seeing it, couldn't have been at least a little better?
There's no such thing as the perfect movie/game/etc.

>guy determined to turn all tropes on their head

a guy who was not a SW fan or had even seen any of the movies previously, who based his entire knowledge of the franchise on a conversation he overheard from the gaffers on Looper who were making SW meme jokes they saw on 4ch.

If you think about it this way, the movie makes spergfect sense.

FUCK IT DOES THO

> the movie makes spergfect sense.
> spergfect sense.
>spergfect

well, i sperged out after the movie - user found the right word for the movie

it was spergfect

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Here are some ideas and changes that I think could have improved the Last Jedi. What do you guys think.

1. Have Leia die. Emphasizes theme of change, death, and desperation
2. Replace Holdo with Akbar. Reduce time needed to "develop" a character and creates a more meaningful send off
3. Replace Holdo (who is now Akbar) not telling anyone the plan for no reason with him not having a plan and not wanting to risk anymore casualties. Everyone is distraught after the death of Leia (their leader of like 40 years) and they feel lost without her.
4.Combine DJ and Rose into one character. Less time needed to develop and introduce new characters.
5. Remove the "We need to save the horses" from the Casino subplot. Greatly cuts down time spent on that useless planet.
6. Spend more time on Rey's training and her relationship with Luke. Actual character development people wanted to see.
7. Spend more time on Kylo's training and his relationship with Snoke. Actual character development people wanted to see.
8. Remove the "Disney Humour". Feels out of place, forced, and unnecessary.
9. Show Luke's reaction to the news of Han's death. Actual character development people wanted to see.
10. Change Luke's decisions and actions. His decision to end the Jedi should have come from wisdom and knowledge of the force and balance. Not because "muh nephew bad". Furthermore don't have Luke attempt to kill a child or even think about killing a child. This is the man who had faith in Darth Vader returning to the light, I think he'd have more patience with his nephew.
11. Change Luke's projection's lightsaber from the blue saber to the green saber. Makes it a little less obvious that it is a projection. (The audience literally just saw the blue Skywalker lightsaber get destroyed, Luke wouldn't be able to physically have it therefore he must be a projection).

These are only a few that came to mind.

britney spears is pretty popular too, guess her music is top notch huh?

add in:
12. don't fucking kill Luke just because you don't know what to do with him
13. Don't fucking kill Snoke just because you don't know what to do with him
14. Don't have Rey master the force after sitting of a fucking rock for 5 minutes and look at a magical mirror
15. Don't spend time on the whole subplot of Rey and Kylo having a mental connection if there's no reason for it and it leads nowhere
16. Don't force a stupid romance and shove an extremely out-of-place kiss into a scene that is supposed to convey despair
17. Don't make Leia live through force bullshit if she's going to become a useless side-character until the end of the movie

It pains me that this movie had so many problems because it had some really great visuals and scens and could have been great.

easily the best star wars ever.

I concur.

this is your brain on Sup Forums

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Agreed. Especially on the diversity thing.
That was a complaint all the way back in the first movie, that it was an all white cast, and people weren't happy about it even back then.
It's pretty much the reason Lando Calrissian is black.