New primus album

I've listened to it twice now and I dig it. Tracks like the scheme keep the classic bass rolling. It's very orchestral and textured too.

Thought guys?

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Wonka was weak but this is pretty great overall. Love the proggy direction they took with it.

The Dream is a little too noodly for my tastes though. Wish that last minute jam lasted longer on it.

Great stuff, though I can't hate anything Claypool releases.

What do you guys theink of the possibility of a unannounced second part of the album. The book apparently has a whole other section about a white goblin that's shunned by the others.

Also the last track is called the ends? The question mark is a bit suspect

hooo shit, forgot about this. anyone got a link?

THESH ARE THE COLOURSH OF THE seven

The whole album is on Spotify, is also on their YouTube channel accompanied by some psychedelic videos

I thought the same thing desu. It's only half an hour long too, I feel like they have more sitting around.

bump

Maybe there's hidden stuff on the vinyl, I went ahead and preordered it aswell so I'm pretty stoked if that's the case

Listen and enjoy it while you can. Once you hit your early 20s, you will get over Primus.

Claypool keeps blowing his load with side projects. Currently the Claypool Lennon Delirium.

what artists do you listen to now?

Why would that matter?

i saw a double rainbow the day this came out, spooky.

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Why did they rip off the entire concept of this vastly superior album?

Damn, this. Loved them in high school, don't listen to them more than a handful of times a year anymore.

God I hope so, although I love this album and think its better than alot of the stuff claypool has been producing including the last two Primus albums, this is my main nit pick.

Also I like the textures and mood of the album, but outside of the two singles the album seems to meander a little too much, like I feel it needs more heavy fast paced juicy bass center pieces to focus on. Overall though I enjoy the fuck out of it and managed to pre order that sexy special vinyl

>don't listen to them more than a handful of times a year anymore

That's not really a bad thing though. I still love the band but I don't listen to them much more than that either. Most bands/artists I got into years ago I don't come back to more than maybe once or twice a year anymore, unless they come out with a new album then I might go back through their discography before listening to the new album.

Saves room for listening to new artists and keeps you from over listening to one artist and getting tired of their music.

>Why did they rip off the entire concept of this vastly superior album?

Both albums rip off the concept of a book. For fucks sake do you know how many bands have written lyrics based off of Tolkien? Granted this book might be a lot more niche than LotR but from how Claypool has talked about it it sounds like it's a book he used to read to his children years ago and has had the idea to do an album about it for a long time now.

bumping Primus thread because this is their best work in a long time. Also who gonna see them on new years

>bumping Primus thread because this is their best work in a long time.
Literally rehashing the same shit for decades
>Also who gonna see them on new years
Don't need to, already saw them in the 90s

>Literally rehashing the same shit for decades

Every album has been different though. Do you just know a few songs and all you can discern is slap bass and wacky vocals? Frizzle Fry sounds vastly different than Pork Soda which sounds almost nothing like the Brown Album etc...

No

>Every album has been different though
You mean a different key and lyric? WOW

Every song is still
>bloinky bloinky wanky bass riff
>stuttering drumbeat
>wack ass guitar part
>Les in silly voice talking about faux redneck shit
>no chord changes or interesting voice leading

It's literally meaningless wank. All you need is the first two albums. That's it.

>Every song is still
>bloinky bloinky wanky bass riff

So you literally think exactly what I just said in my last post. Brilliant.

So I take it you never listen to an artist for more than 2 albums unless they drastically change their sound or reinvent themselves? What, do you want Primus to start writing piano ballads and do a retro 80s synthpop album?

>All Death Grips albums are just Ride yelling nonsensical lyrics over random beats lmao same shit
>All MF DOOM is just a fat black guy rhyming in the same monotone voice over bland beats and random pointless samples lmao
>I'm a pleb

>do you want Primus to start writing piano ballads and do a retro 80s synthpop album?

Not him but I could go for the latter actually. Sounds pretty fun.

>all radiohead songs are just bleep bloop "waaaahhhh!!!!!"
>all led zeppelin songs is just acoustic picking, le stolen bl00z riff and "OOOHH BBABBYYYY!!!"
>all hip hop is just stolen beatz and le retardz attempting poetry :^)

Wow, music is so much simpler when I pretend to be as retarded as you user

If the songs were truly unique, it wouldn't all just be slap bass and wacky vocals, right?
>So I take it you never listen to an artist for more than 2 albums unless they drastically change their sound or reinvent themselves
I'll listen to anything. Nice irrelevancy
>What, do you want Primus to start writing piano ballads and do a retro 80s synthpop album?
That would be impressive.
>I like Death Grips and MF Doom
>I'm gonna call other people plebs
Nah
Radiohead and LZ comparisons don't work, as both artists were actually very versatile
>all hip hop is just stolen beatz and le retardz attempting poetry :^)
This isn't wrong though, is it?
>when I pretend to be as retarded as you user
Oh how long have you been studying music theory?

>all radiohead songs are just bleep bloop "eeeeeeeeeedd!!!!!"

FTFY

If you actually had an ear for music you would hear more than just slap bass and wacky vocals. That's the point. You're just like every other ADD ridden child who can't pay attention for the duration of an album.

Fucking Tales From the Punchbowl and Brown Album are miles apart yet right next to each other in their discography.

>you would hear more than just slap bass and wacky vocals
Like what?
>Fucking Tales From the Punchbowl and Brown Album are miles apart yet right next to each other in their discography.
What's different about it, aside from the drummer?

>spoonfeed me
No. Also, the same works with Pork Soda and Tales From the Punchbowl. Three extremely different albums in a row.

>please prove me argument for me
Not how it works

If you can't explain it, it's not true. Sorry.

>Unlike you I actually study music theory so my opinion is objectively more relevant
Thank you for telling us now you are a stuck up faggot that people probably cant stand talking to in person.

Even if the they sounded exactly the same since their first two albums, if I am a fan of their sound why would I not want more of it. I don't get the criticism that a band that has a sound as distinctive as Primus sounds similar album after album. Their hallmark is funky odd basslines, like exactly how much variation do you expect, and whats the criteria for measuring variation?

Regardless, you are still deflecting the criticism that your argument hinges on over simplifying their style and sound, which as pointed out can be done to literally any artist.

>spoonfeed me

M8 he's telling you to prove your point, if you can't elaborate on and back up your opinion then why bother giving it?

>unironically studying music theory and thinking that it will help him to have a more refined XD taste in music
>hates rap music, because it's not "real" music

>If you can't explain it, it's not true. Sorry.

Not him but that's not how anything works.

>if I am a fan of their sound why would I not want more of it
You are free to enjoy rehashed and regurgitated wankery if you so choose. I already said earlier in the thread to enjoy it while you can, because you will not enjoy it forever.
>over simplifying their style and sound
No one has been able to refute the accuracy of it. Try if you can

>hates rap music
Quote me where i said that.

Of course it is. Or do you like to just be spoonfed reality?

>all hip hop is just stolen beatz and le retardz attempting poetry :^)
>This isn't wrong though, is it?

>please prove me argument for me

No m8, I'm saying just listen to the albums yourself, I'm sure someone versed in theory can pick up the differences in their sound. Or just keep spouting your lazy half-assed opinions.

>If the songs were truly unique, it wouldn't all just be guitar and vocals right?

Rock music BTFO

>I'm saying just listen to the albums yourself,
Done.

>I'm sure someone versed in theory can pick up the differences in their sound. Or just keep spouting your lazy half-assed opinions.
Still waiting on a counter argument. It won't come, will it?
See: chord sequence, harmony, voice leading, arrangement, production, performance, lyric.

I bought it, I really like this one.

>refute my simplistic argument in which I presented no evidence

Frizzle Fry was a traditionally structured album with funky bass hooks laden through out each song and zany poppy songs like John the Fisherman. Even the more bizzare tunes like the title track had a more light hearted tone, with lyrics singing about Captain Crunch etc.

Seas of Cheese incorporated more variation in play style like the bass tapping of Jerry was a Racecar Driver, which no other Primus song sounds like, the manic super fast slap pop of Is it Luck, or the fretless bass of Tommy the cat.

Pork Soda was drastically different in that it took a much darker sinister tone from previous works. Look to Bob or Mr. Krinkle, the latter which incorporated the stand up bass played like a cello, which to my knowledge wasn't a method used in previous albums (could be wrong). The songs were more stripped back and sparse in comparison to the high energy, generally louder songs on frizzle fry, the guitar was featured much less predominately, especially on singles like My Name is Mud or again Bob. The sound on this album in my opinion completely singular in their discography. Songs like DMV and the end track incorporate more of the tapping style bass playing. Im fairly certain that the six string bass is utilized far more in this album than previous.

Ill use their most recent album as a final example as instead of singular songs with stand out funky bass riffs like in previous albums, the album favors more ambient repetitive passages laden with reverb and delay effects to set the tone which progresses through the story. The only two strong whacky bass center pieces are derived from the two singles, and to a degree The Trek. I noticed a lot of the effects that were developed on GN were elaborated more here in this slower passages. I dont see how you can listen to their first two albums and listen to this one and say they are rehashing the same exact thing, that is objectively fucking stupid.

Again I ask you what your criteria for variation is, what those benchmarks are that must be hit between albums that make an artist worth listening to.

Holy shit, and people try to claim that Primus fans are autistic. Their detractors are deep on the spectrum.

>counter-argument
>fite me!

What's there to argue? The music is there, listen or don't. I'm not gonna explain what doesn't need explaining.

>What's different about it, aside from the drummer?


Well the production for starters, Brown Album is much more raw and direct. LaLonde's guitar tone is at it's heaviest since Frizzle Fry and there's more of a straight-ahead Rock sound to the music. The songs are shorter for the most part and most of the songs are centered around riffs and the guitar probably plays a bigger role and take the lead more than any Primus album since Frizzle Fry. There's a definite Zeppelin influence on the album.

Punch Bowl is more psychedelic and varied. It starts off with more high energy Rock songs like Professor Nutbutter and Wynona's Big Brown Beaver but then later on there's spacy psychedelic shit like Southbound Pachyderm or Glass Sandwich. The songs on this album typically last longer and have more room for instrumental sections. Brown Albums is much more to the point comparatively. Also, LaLonde's soloing is much looser on Punchbowl. On Brown album he tends to be more concise.

Also, both albums feature Les Claypool's signature wacky vocals and slap bass lines so I can't really tell the difference between the two.

Primus? Have a [-] forever

Shit, it's like a baby Fantano reviewed Primus

>production
>spacey
>rock
>high energy
>concise
>riffs

Such diversity!

Finally listened to this
I'm not sure if I'd put it above or below Naugahyde but it's definitely better than Chocolate Factory

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wow look how all these songs picked randomly from their entire discography sound exactly the same guys

>no Wynona
>no Devil Went Down to Georgia
>no Too Many Puppies
>no Have a Cigar
>no Lacquer Head
>no HOINFODAMAN
>no Last Salmon Man

>i completely forgot the Antipop album
Man I hope this guy has left the thread after being entirely BTFO, this argument is now completely pathetic

I am a great fan of Primus, seen them live twice, but I was doubtful about this album since their last two albums were pretty damn poor.

But i've gotta say this thing is stunning. Got my vinyl copy and The Trek is definitely my favourite track right now. I really hope there is a second part like you're predicting, the sound right now is the best they've had in years.

There's nothing wrong with basing the concept of your album on a book. Its just that they happened to choose the same book, and added in intermittent storytelling just like the Takanaka album.

I guess what matters is the music which is completely different, but still.

Antipop has some great stuff

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>no Over The Falls
thats truly the greatest crime here.

What is the greatest Primus music video?

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Sounds about right. The more you begin to appreciate music the more you realize that rap music is almost completely devoid of any musical ability. Rapping is not music, prove me wrong. You will never learn music naturally through rapping like you might playing the guitar or piano.

>prove me wrong
well that wasn't hard at all

The music is there, listen or don't. I'm not gonna explain what doesn't need explaining.
Not what I'm asking. Try again.
>Frizzle Fry was a traditionally structured album with funky bass hooks laden through out each song and zany poppy songs like John the Fisherman. Even the more bizzare tunes like the title track had a more light hearted tone, with lyrics singing about Captain Crunch etc.
As I said, boinky bass and wacky lyrics...
>Seas of Cheese incorporated more variation in play style like the bass tapping
Boinky bass
>which no other Primus song sounds like
Except the boinky bass and wacky lyric
>The songs were more stripped back and sparse in comparison to the high energy, generally louder songs on frizzle fry, the guitar was featured much less predominately, especially on singles like My Name is Mud or again Bob. The sound on this album in my opinion completely singular in their discography. Songs like DMV and the end track incorporate more of the tapping style bass playing. Im fairly certain that the six string bass is utilized far more in this album than previous.
Read: more boinky bass and wacky lyrics
Read: more boinky bass and wacky lyrics

>Again I ask you what your criteria for variation is,
I already stated it. Did you read the thread? The bass playing slightly less or more boinky is still boinky.
>Brown Album is much more raw and direct.
How so? Explain it
>both albums feature Les Claypool's signature wacky vocals and slap bass lines so I can't really tell the difference between the two.
Well, there you go.
>boinky boinky
>wacky faux redneck "behdibedhebedhehdbe" vocals
Zzzzz
See above.

fuck off you shitposting idiot

This is what happens when Primusfags get BTFO

>repeating the phrase oinky boinky over and over is getting BTFO
The absolute state of Primus contrarians

t. triggered by slap bass

>and over is getting BTFO
[citation needed]
t. triggered by harmony and voice leading

>primus should try to sound more like traditional artists instead of being unique
>les claypool should stop being a unique bass player

You just have boring pleb taste

after asking for people to support their arguments and give evidence, this is truly the most pathetic post in the thread. I don't understand why you are still trying

Shit posting aside, can we take a minute to appreciate how fucking pitch perfect Primus is live

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>playing bloinky bloinky on every song except that one upright bowed track is unique
kek
>nah dude "boinky boinky" is completely different than "booooinky boooinky"
Who's being pathetic?

I get it, you like Primus. But just be honest about it.

holy autism

I saw Les Claypool at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything.
He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?”
I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and mumbling “shibbity shup bow be be day” and boiking and bopping his 8 string fretless acoustic bass in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by making race car noises really loudly.

What was this thread?

fuck off black man, white man boikeys his le bass better than you

some guy got mad at people liking Primus

Primus sucks!

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Primus albums. The music is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of music theory most of the bass lines will go over a typical listener's head. There's also Claypool's zany outlook, which is deftly woven into his musical narrative- his personal philosophy draws heavily from classic childrens literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these songs, to realise that they're not just funky- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Primus truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the funkyness in Claypools's existential baseline "binka boink boink binka bonk," which itself is a cryptic reference to Sianne Ngai theory of the aesthetic categories. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Les Claypool's genius wit unfolds itself on their speakers. What fools.. how I pity them.

>but he kept cutting me off and mumbling “shibbity shup bow be be day” and boiking and bopping his 8 string fretless acoustic bass in front of my face.

kek'd

he's right you know

>How so? Explain it

spooooon feeeeeed meeeeeeeeee!!!

I have an unhealthy hard-on over Primus, but I gotta say their last three records are many notches inferior to the rest of their discog. Still liked them though

I feel like the problem on GN and TD7 are the jam interludes that go nowhere. Before these, the album/songs were short enough to avoid these easy jams. Or they would've featured an actual Lalonde solo and not just pointless noodling

Really glad they're not just trying to make some Primus-sounding songs like they were on GN though. I'm actually surprised a band with such a specific sound can still venture into new genres and concepts after a twenty years run

DAMN.

I am. Much looking forward to it.

boring and short

Modern Primus is more just an expansion on Claypool's solo work.

Claypool's side projects range from great to godlike though, it's a shame Fantano couldn't take Claypool Lennon Delirium seriously though.

7/10

will check out thx

Sad!

Primus cool.

youtu.be/cajrnY_fGDk

I suppose a link would help

i agree so i'll do it for him
pork soda is darker and grittier, happens to include the marimba song "wounded knee", some of their most aggressive material (my name is mud, mid-section to nature boy)
Tales from the punchbowl has more songs that could actually be kinda poppy liike "mrs. blaileen", but also has some more spooky pentatonic grooves like "over the electric grapevine" and "on the tweak again", continues with the use of very atmospheric reverbed drum sections that i like a lot about pork soda and seas of cheese, although probably tales fgrom th epunchbowl is my least favorite of theirs just because
brown album is lo-fi as shit, mix sounds totally different than everything else in their discography, contains some almost straight bluesy numbers like over the falls and kalamazoo but still funky, contains "hats off" which is great too and falls in the same vein, contains "camelback cinema" which has this great ridiculous verse with dissonance and a driving rhythm in some goofy time sig, but then comes back to a really great refrain, ends with the pscyhedelic freakout of Arnie which i love

thoughts on this woul dbe appreciated

I like how every time we have a thread about this album, some retard has to bring up that Masayoshi Takanaka album and start jerking off.
Yeah. We get it. You're special. You know about about an album that a lot of other people don't know about.
Two albums that sound nothing alike and are based on the same book can exist without you have an autistic brain-seizure.

>boinky boinky bass

Lol why has nobody pointed out all of the Primus songs where Les doesn't play a traditional bass? Pretty sure Pork Soda alone has several tracks where there is no bass or Les playing with a bow.

>If I don't like it, it's autism
Stop
>I don't know how an argument works
Pro-tip: One song per album that deviates form the norm is not noteworthy
>thoughts on this woul dbe appreciated
It's all still variations of boinky boinky. There is no way you can get around that AT ALL.

The only thing that deviates is Oysterhead, and that's thanks to a certain guitarist.

>one song per album

I specificaly said SEVERAL tracks you autistic cunt. Not one. FFS no wonder you think every album sound the same, you cant even comprehend a fucking sentence let alone an entire album.

>this faggot is still here shitting up the thread hours later
stop responding seriously, he's been utterly BTFO multiple times. Let him run free to autistically shit post